Can someone please tell me why Bonner gets more minutes than Baynes?

[Mel_13]

Figured I'd beat the rush..

[benefactor]

:lol

Will be bump worthy sooner than later.

[Boomersgold]

Reasons for why Bonner should get minutes over Baynes:
*Familiarity with the team and the Spurs' system. Although, keep in mind that the Australian National Team actually ran many of the Spurs' plays due to Brett Brown being the former coach.
*Three point shooting, currently at over 50%. (Who knows what this'll drop to in the playoffs)
*Pop's approval.
*More NBA experience.

Reasons for why Baynes should get minutes over Bonner:
*He can dunk with regularity.
*He's bigger and stronger around the post.
*Has a small assortment of post moves, which is still more than Bonner.
*Has team chemistry with Patty Mills, who he played with in the Olympics for Australia.
*Better defensive player than Bonner.
*Younger.

An Extra: Reasons to play Blair over Bonner or Baynes:
*No reasons at all. Trade Blair at the earliest chance.

[MI21]

:lol

His ceiling is solid 4th big. I hope Spur fan can understand this so they aren't disappointed.

[cd98]

The better question is who will be blocked more at the rim: Baynes in 2013 or James Anderson in 2011. He may be big and strong, but he's not going to get many of those dunks in the NBA, where the defenders are longer and quicker and more athletic. He may get dunks on some pick and rolls, but it won't be from posting up.

Also, how many offensive foul calls do you think he will get in his first season in the NBA? I bet he averages two a game.

[Supreme_Being]

lets judge him after he plays. kthx

[Russ]

Pop is done with Bonner.

There's nothing more Pop can do to him.

Therefore, Pop will probably play Bonner while he experiments with his new toy -- Baynes. :)

[silverblackfan]

:lol Great "Pre-Panic Rant"


The better question is who will be blocked more at the rim: Baynes in 2013 or James Anderson in 2011. He may be big and strong, but he's not going to get many of those dunks in the NBA, where the defenders are longer and quicker and more athletic. He may get dunks on some pick and rolls, but it won't be from posting up.


I agree, he will face a lot more contests. ONTH, he may also break someone's hand on the rim. He is a big boy.

[spurspokesman]

He stretches the floor........

[look_at_g_shred]

Reasons for why Bonner should get minutes over Baynes:
*Familiarity with the team and the Spurs' system. Although, keep in mind that the Australian National Team actually ran many of the Spurs' plays due to Brett Brown being the former coach.
*Three point shooting, currently at over 50%. (Who knows what this'll drop to in the playoffs)
*Pop's approval.
*More NBA experience.

Reasons for why Baynes should get minutes over Bonner:
*He can dunk with regularity.
*He's bigger and stronger around the post.
*Has a small assortment of post moves, which is still more than Bonner.
*Has team chemistry with Patty Mills, who he played with in the Olympics for Australia.
*Better defensive player than Bonner.
*Younger.

An Extra: Reasons to play Blair over Bonner or Baynes:
*No reasons at all. Trade Blair at the earliest chance.

I would rather have the Post Player resulting in possibly old fashioned 3 pt plays rather than the three pointer that we all know will diminish in the playoffs.

[ace3g]

He stretches the floor........

Granted this is from 09 but from his form, I wouldn't be jumping out of my seat screaming if he had to shoot a mid range shot.

1:40 - 1:56


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7ZWJZ75X3A

[Mel_13]

Granted this is from 09 but from his form, I wouldn't be jumping out of my seat screaming if he had to shoot a mid range shot.


nice avatar.

[look_at_g_shred]

Granted this is from 09 but from his form, I wouldn't be jumping out of my seat screaming if he had to shoot a mid range shot.

1:40 - 1:56


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7ZWJZ75X3A

Preach!!

[ace3g]

nice avatar.

Being on the bandwagon for a while now, had to update the avatar after hearing the news.

[Mel_13]

Being on the bandwagon for a while now, had to update the avatar after hearing the news.

:tu

[ace3g]

United Nations of San Antonio

Aussies: Patty and Baynes
French: TP, Diaw, and Nando
Brazil: Splitter
Argentina: Manu
*Virgin Islands: Timmy

[Boomersgold]

United Nations of San Antonio

Aussies: Patty and Baynes
French: TP, Diaw, and Nando
Brazil: Splitter
Argentina: Manu
*Virgin Islands: Timmy

Americans: Gary Neal, Kawhi Leonard, Matt Bonner and Dejuan Blair

[Boomersgold]

United Nations of San Antonio

Aussies: Patty and Baynes
French: TP, Diaw, and Nando
Brazil: Splitter
Argentina: Manu
*Virgin Islands: Timmy

Canada: Cory Joseph

[Mel_13]

Wannabe Canada: Matt Bonner

[chapnis]

Gingers are their only race right?

[Obstructed_View]

:lol

His ceiling is solid 4th big. I hope Spur fan can understand this so they aren't disappointed.

I hope MI21 understand that "solid 4th big" >>>>>>>>> Bonner.

[Blackjack]

Pop just needs to tell himself there's room for both.

Hell ... Tim, Tiago, Diaw and Baynes could all play in the paint - at the same time - with Bonner spacing the floor from the bench.

[look_at_g_shred]

Pop needs to just throw Baynes in their as soon as possible. What's there to lose. All he could do is provide immediate impact.

[Brazil]

:lol good thread

[will_spurs]

:lol visionary

[senorglory]

Remember that time Bonner grew out his beard?
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y121/senorglory/NewImage15-300x295_zpsd55f2b86.png

[Uriel]

United Nations of San Antonio

Aussies: Patty and Baynes
French: TP, Diaw, and Nando
Brazil: Splitter
Argentina: Manu
Canada: CoJo
*Virgin Islands: Timmy

Love it. :tu We're probably the only team in the NBA with more international players on the roster than Americans. And that's not even including our pipeline.

[exstatic]

Figured I'd beat the rush..

:lol

[spurraider21]

"Bonner should spread the floor from the bench"
classic

[bluebellmaniac]

Figured I'd beat the rush..

That if freakin AWESOME! Mel_13!!!!! Very, very, very ST-ish!

[Spur|n|Austin]

He gives Pop what Baynes can't

[Old School 44]

Americans: Gary Neal, Kawhi Leonard, Matt Bonner and Dejuan Blair

Da hood: Stephen Jackson :)

[SpursIndonesia]

United Nations of San Antonio

Aussies: Patty and Baynes
French: TP, Diaw, and Nando
Brazil: Splitter
Argentina: Manu
*Virgin Islands: Timmy

No Asian representation, there must be some next Mengke Bateers in the world most populous continent ?? :(

[cd021]

Figured I'd beat the rush..

Vet Move, good sir, Vet Move.

[TDMVPDPOY]

No Asian representation, there must be some next Mengke Bateers in the world most populous continent ?? :(

theres that asian doctor sitting behind the bench, does he qualify? his my brother and ur brother....we all look alike...hahahahaha

[Boomersgold]

theres that asian doctor sitting behind the bench, does he qualify? his my brother and ur brother....we all look alike...hahahahaha
Are you guys really related to the asian spurs doctor? That's pretty cool.

[Man In Black]

Not Asian Doctors.

http://www.nba.com/spurs/features/120912_rodriguez_yamaguchi

[benfti]

:lol

His ceiling is solid 4th big. I hope Spur fan can understand this so they aren't disappointed.

I reckon it could be slightly higher than that. I worked with him a little bit at the AIS as an 18 year old, he was very late to the game, and its astounding how much he has come on. Has the tools, will benefit from the coaching, honestly I see him as a strong backup 4/5 in time.

[Drz]

Not Asian Doctors.

http://www.nba.com/spurs/features/120912_rodriguez_yamaguchi
Damn, cool, thanks for the link. I wish I had that drive.

[NASpurs]

Bump for tonight

[TrainOfThought5]

soon to be the most relevant thread on ST, TBH.

[Brunodf]

Bump

[therealtruth]

Baynes already getting the Splitter treatment. I wonder how long it will take for him to get over himself.

[cd021]

1 minute +/- of - 7. Thats a welcome to the NBA moment. Blair may just have reinserted himself in to the rotation just not sure who's yet.

[Reck]

I believe you got your answer people.

[easy7]

He can't inbound the ball?

[Obstructed_View]

Baynes got the Steve Novak treatment: Enter into the game when you're cold with only seconds left. At least Bud was smart enough to do it when the Spurs had an insurmountable lead.

[hater]

Lolzy

[td4mvp2k]

1 minute +/- of - 7. Thats a welcome to the NBA moment. Blair may just have reinserted himself in to the rotation just not sure who's yet.Baynes was to come in for Blair and couldnt.

[TrainOfThought5]

soon to be the most relevant thread on ST, TBH.

lets try this again tomorrow night.

[cd021]

Baynes was to come in for Blair and couldnt.

I was talking about about Blairs strong play in the game & whether he could reenter our rotation with Jackson playing almost exclusively at SF now.

[NASpurs]

Bump

[Interrohater]

good bump

[dunkman]

It's 'coz Bonner is the ultimate system-program guy. Tbh . . .

[objective]

Turd Towers . . . Pop being Pop. Saving Baynes for 2015.

"These unimportant February games aren't for Aron." :pop:

[Bong]

better ask pop for that

[ThaBigFundamental21]

It's simple. Bonner has no gag reflexes. Bayne wears that mask.

[exstatic]

good bump

Not so much.

[Bong]

bonner opens the floor with his 3s, IMO baynes is still adjusting on spurs system, when his out in the floor his like a wall, his always stock on the same position, does not always provide screen and he does not move without the ball like TS who is very active in screen and making some cuts

[timvp]

:lol Spurs fans always obsessed with what's behind the door.

Great OP. Probably OPOTY, tbh.

[td4mvp21]

:lol Spurs fans always obsessed with what's behind the door.


To be fair, door number 22 turned out to be pretty good :lol

[Interrohater]

:lol Spurs fans always obsessed with what's behind the door.

Great OP. Probably OPOTY, tbh.

It's an affliction, no cure

[spursnatic]

Cause Baynes fucking sucks!!...

[Pop]

So how predictable is Pop?

Lol at people predicting that the Spurs are going to amnesty or trade Pop's favorite player this summer.

[ChumpDumper]

Who ever thought that he would be amnestied?

[spurs10]

He spreads the floor! :lol

[Strategic]

He got drafted.

[timtonymanu]

:lol :tu

This thread. I hate Bonner/Blair as much as the next person, but :lol at people who think Baynes will determine our title chances.

[Strategic]

Absolutivively, and^^^^^Next year too^^^^

[silverblk mystix]

Who ever thought that he would be amnestied?


Popsucker alert!!!!!

[KL2]

:lol :tu

This thread. I hate Bonner/Blair as much as the next person, but :lol at people who think Baynes will determine our title chances.


Every single player's role is important on a team. Games often end with a difference of just 5 points or even less and Baynes could certainly contribute those few extra points whether it be from his rebounding or defense.

[Budkin]

System.

[pgardn]

The Splitter, Duncan, Diaw rotation has been kind to us lately.

So the other "bigs" don't have the minutes. We can also play around with Jackson along side any of those 3 and not get hurt too badly. I suspect a series with Memphis might give him a chance if he is on the roster.

[mabrignani]

lol at a mid season rookie acquisition getting props

[Mel_13]

So how predictable is Pop?

Not nearly as predictable as a certain subset of ST posters, tbh.

[ChumpDumper]

So how predictable is Pop?You're very predictable tbh.

[skulls138]

I think Baynes would be good for enforcing. If Kendrick Perkins or Serge Ibaka want to push their weight around, send in Baynes, let him foul a bit, so Duncan doesnt have to and bring him back out.

[Fabbs]

I think Baynes would be good for enforcing. If Kendrick Perkins or Serge Ibaka want to push their weight around, send in Baynes, let him foul a bit, so Duncan doesnt have to and bring him back out.
Hoop 101.
Or have him in with Duncs for a spell to keep those two goons in check.
Even Blair (when healthy) gave Duncs protection in the paint.

And the PollyAnna Poppers want more Bonner and Dick Jeff at the Forward spot. :rollin

[ChumpDumper]

http://phillips.blogs.com/photos/uncategorized/923strawman.jpg

[Pop]

Who ever thought that he would be amnestied?

Everyone in the think tank, it just makes a lot of sense to be able to pay a FA.

[Brazil]

time to bump that shit
unleash Baynes

[ChumpDumper]

Everyone in the think tank, it just makes a lot of sense to be able to pay a FA.Not if you still have to pay Bonner.

This summer's buyout seems more likely.

[TheGoldStandard]

Pop asked Baynes if he wanted a Rose or a Shiraz and Baynes said no thanks I'm not a pussy. Pop said he wasn't ready yet.

[Poolboy5623]

Free baynes!!! Seriously after watching tonight, how much of the system does he really need to know?? Blair should sit the rest of the year on the bench. It'll give him plenty of time to check his Twitter.

[hater]

this kid has a lot to learn. yeah he's athletic, still makes too many dumb errors

[Cane]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WK4oLtErNQ

[siraulo23]

if baynes got a consistent couple of mins since he got signed till now, then he wouldnt be so clueless on the court at times

pop screwed this baynes situation just like he did splitter tbh

the guy is big, tough and a physical body and players will know he's there when they attack the rim, a useful trait in the POs

[TheGoldStandard]

Professional, went out there and did what he was supposed to do with minutes.

[Poolboy5623]

And he's not 6'5"...the dudes a mountain.

[benfti]

Pop asked Baynes if he wanted a Rose or a Shiraz and Baynes said no thanks I'm not a pussy. Pop said he wasn't ready yet.

Bee-ear


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kaHkEH3nk8w

[boutons_deux]

And he's not 6'5"...the dudes a mountain.

and for all that beef, he moves and runs effortlessly. and he really like to rut around down low.

Summer work plus training camp, and he should be the 3rd big in November

[Poolboy5623]

It's gonna piss me off when I see baynes in street clothes for the playoffs...I'll be even more pissed when pop puts Blair or Bonner in, meaningful mins..only to get devoured once again. Matt played well tonight and I'm not a hater...he's just not fit for the post season. And fwiw, I lol at the fans that lol at baynes getting any mins. As mentioned a play or two can make the difference .. the spurs need an enforcer. Problem is they have one, rotting on the bench.

[Poolboy5623]

and for all that beef, he moves and runs effortlessly. and he really like to rut around down low.

Summer work plus training camp, and he should be the 3rd big in November

He just can't seem to get a good wind...pop needs to give him some run.. it's frustrating seeing him get so winded.

[TheGoldStandard]

Winded because he doesn't know the pace of the NBA because he doesn't get minutes.. I hope that we see him down the stretch more probably not tomorrow but still at some point. Won't be in the playoffs though Pop squandered any hope of that by letting him rot with the Toros

[Poolboy5623]

this kid has a lot to learn. yeah he's athletic, still makes too many dumb errors

Need to get him on the floor...throw him into the lions den, it's the best way to learn. The spurs know this, as its worked quite well in the past w/ others..splitter and now Aaron getting the shaft, however.

[Poolboy5623]

Winded because he doesn't know the pace of the NBA because he doesn't get minutes.. I hope that we see him down the stretch more probably not tomorrow but still at some point. Won't be in the playoffs though Pop squandered any hope of that by letting him rot with the Toros

Yup. He needs nba mins...not dleague mins... it's just not the same. Would Blair be cool playing with the toros?..

[Splits]

Have you seen how wide his shoulders are?

[Poolboy5623]

I have...saw him play in mn a couple months ago(the win)..he's bigger in person.

[Poolboy5623]

I'd love to post some pics I took of him and others, from a courtside view...but can't post attachments for some reason? Do I need a certain # of posts first?

[spurraider21]

I saw him in person when we blew the hell out of the Clippers. He looked giant out there. Looked good tonight.

As for the original question of the thread, Bonner has a different role than Baynes. It's Blair's minutes he's going to eat into if he gets minutes

[HI-FI]

I'd love to post some pics I took of him and others, from a courtside view...but can't post attachments for some reason? Do I need a certain # of posts first?
i believe you only need to post the images on a hosting site, like photobucket etc...and then post the link of the pics on here using the "Insert Image" tab. i haven't posted my pics on here, just mainly obnoxious gifs, but i believe that's how it works for personal pics as well.

[Budkin]

He doesn't play because "fairness."

[T Park]

He doesn't play because "fairness."

He doesn't play because he still doesnt rotate on defense well and he can't box out his man for shit.

[freetiago]

oh so thats why Bonner Blair and 1 rebound per 30 minute Diaw play

[Boomersgold]

He doesn't play because he still doesnt rotate on defense well and he can't box out his man for shit.

And Bonner does those things well? :lmao

[512spursfan]

baynes should be getting more minutes than the redheaded pop pleaser! he actually plays aggresively and the rebounding seems to improve when he's on the court! something we definitely needed tonight!

[ChumpDumper]

Winded because he doesn't know the pace of the NBA because he doesn't get minutes.. I hope that we see him down the stretch more probably not tomorrow but still at some point. Won't be in the playoffs though Pop squandered any hope of that by letting him rot with the Toros


Yup. He needs nba mins...not dleague mins... it's just not the same. Would Blair be cool playing with the toros?..D-League minutes are on average faster paced than those of the NBA.

Dude got winded there too. It's a concern.

[Poolboy5623]

^I wonder if it's just his huge size??^ He should only be used in short spurts anyways. But seriously, it looks like he lifts chest and shoulders 4 x a week.

[BatManu20]

Cause Bonner and Pop are golf buddies. That's why.

[Fireball]

D-League minutes are on average faster paced than those of the NBA.

Dude got winded there too. It's a concern.

But I bet there is less pushing and shoving (i.e. defending) needed under the basket in the D-League. That may tire one out even more than "just" running the floor ...

[hater]

not worried about him being winded. Tiago was the same back then and even now gets winded

[objective]

If given chance to play it would be in short stretches off the bench anyway, him getting winded wouldn't concern me. Of course, that's a big 'if'.

[spurraider21]

If given chance to play it would be in short stretches off the bench anyway, him getting winded wouldn't concern me. Of course, that's a big 'if'.

If Pop is serious about the defensive identity thing, those 3-5 minutes Blair checks in for should go to Baynes. I'd understand getting Blair in there only if we were desperate for some offensive spark

[Nero5]

Baynes is looking to impress: his attention adrenaline levels will be up and he will be trying hard all the time. It's what basketballers of all grades do when they are trying to break into the next level up or are unsure of themselves. We all know that basketball is a game of spurts of activity and then runs of slower pace, but for Baynes, instead of conserving energy for short moments and getting his breath back he will be putting out effort and moving all that muscle will take some effort.

[jermaine]

This thread makes me feel like that commercial where that guy is sitting in a circle with those kids asking what's better more or less. Pop is the guy asking who should play more Baynes or Bonner. An im one of the kids saying baynes because he can do more an he plays defense better leaving us to want more an Bonner do less stuff so we want more we want more. An Bonners not him so we want more.

[Raven]

i expect him to play much more from next year.

[LongtimeSpursFan]

Need to get him on the floor...throw him into the lions den, it's the best way to learn. The spurs know this, as its worked quite well in the past w/ others..splitter and now Aaron getting the shaft, however.

This is not the best way to learn. Tired of hearing fans thinking that a head coach would just throw a player onto the floor to see what he can do. Players need to learn what are the team offensive and defensive schemes before they are allowed significant time on the courts. This can best be learned through training camp and preseason. Splitter and James Anderson both struggled initally due to missed training camps.

[TheGoldStandard]

I think there are minutes to go around for Baynes and there has been for sometime especially with some of the games we've played but it's a little late to try to get him involved.

[Sean Cagney]

Because POP is is in love with Bonner for some reason. Watch him creep up again in MINS as the playoffs approach, bet on it.

[TJastal]

if baynes got a consistent couple of mins since he got signed till now, then he wouldnt be so clueless on the court at times

Pop screwed this baynes situation just like he did splitter tbh

the guy is big, tough and a physical body and players will know he's there when they attack the rim, a useful trait in the POs

[TJastal]

This is not the best way to learn. Tired of hearing fans thinking that a head coach would just throw a player onto the floor to see what he can do. Players need to learn what are the team offensive and defensive schemes before they are allowed significant time on the courts. This can best be learned through training camp and preseason. Splitter and James Anderson both struggled initally due to missed training camps.

Ahhh... the tired old "can't play without training camp" makes yet another appearance. A popsucker classic.

[Captivus]

I think Baynes could get more minutes, even if Bonner doesnt play less.

[hater]

This is not the best way to learn. Tired of hearing fans thinking that a head coach would just throw a player onto the floor to see what he can do. Players need to learn what are the team offensive and defensive schemes before they are allowed significant time on the courts. This can best be learned through training camp and preseason. Splitter and James Anderson both struggled initally due to missed training camps.

sshh now why would you bring common sense into this thread??

don't you see Baynes is the next coming of Hakeem?

:lmao

[spurraider21]

Lol baynes is an nba rookie who came in midseason and people here want him to play 15 minutes per game even during the playoffs. I'm fine with spot minutes when both Tim and Tiago are resting to avoid having no rim protector, but that's about it. Bigger minutes next season though

[KL2]

This is not the best way to learn. Tired of hearing fans thinking that a head coach would just throw a player onto the floor to see what he can do. Players need to learn what are the team offensive and defensive schemes before they are allowed significant time on the courts. This can best be learned through training camp and preseason. Splitter and James Anderson both struggled initally due to missed training camps.


Splitter struggled because of the way Pop tried to play him, instead of giving him consistent minutes allowing him to gain chemistry with his teammates, familiarity with the system and confidence he threw him out there every once and a while and expected him to produce.


There was a few games in 2011 where TD went out and Splitter stepped up big time, they wound up losing all their games however Splitter was the lone bright spot and made the Spurs nearly beat the 3 teams. When that happened everyone here thought for sure he'd keep his starting role, he was of course sent back to the bench.

Splitter wasn't as good as he is now however he still was a very good player and with him starting the Spurs don't lose to Memphis that year.

[Monkeyboy14]

He spreads the floor! :lol
All bonner spreads is his legs son :lol

[ChumpDumper]

Now Baynes = Splitter.

Awesome.

[ace3g]

In the 4 games Baynes has played 10+ minutes, the Spurs have won by 10+ points

on serious note:

Improbable Journey From Down Under
See how aronbaynes transformed himself from a rugby enthusiast to an NBA basketball player

http://www.nba.com/spurs/features/130404_rodriguez_baynes

[Pop]

Now Baynes = Splitter.

Awesome.

He looks mentally tougher and he has a jumper so no.

[ChumpDumper]

He looks mentally tougher and he has a jumper so no.Now Baynes > Splitter.

Awesome.

[superjames1992]

In the 4 games Baynes has played 10+ minutes, the Spurs have won by 10+ points
A deceptive stat considering the only reason he usually comes in (bar last night) is when a game is a blowout, tbh.

[LonghornMike]

I don't see why there is such a rush to through Bayne's into the fire. Blair's contract is up this year and he's probably gone right? So there ya go. Baynes will slide into the 4th or 5th big role depending on the match-up. And with another year on Duncan's wheels, you bet there will be even more time for the bench bigs to sop up.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Baynes showed he can compete with Vukevic. He went after the competition with Vukevic. Baynes fans have reason to clamor for more. He would allow Splitter to stay at the 4 on the second unit which if nothing else would help matchups. His conditioning is also a lot better.

[hater]

Gregg Ostertag >>>>>>>>>> Baynes

it's the sad state of NBA bigmen. even Baynes looks like a legit promise :rolleyes

Imagine Baynes coming in to tustle agains Shaq or Malone :lmao dude would get the smackdown and maybe a broken rib or 2 in less that 5 seconds :lol

[hater]

Let me be a bit more specific

Luc Longley >> Gregg Ostertag >>> Bill Wennington >>>>> Aron Baynes

wake the fuck up :rollin

[Nero5]

what a sad little troll you are Hater...is there an ignore function on this forum?
Baynes has his use, when a game or series is physical then he is good and prolong the impact Duncan and Splitter can have by sharing the load. In a fast flowing, changing ends game he will be less useful.

[romsho]

what a sad little troll you are Hater...is there an ignore function on this forum?
Baynes has his use, when a game or series is physical then he is good and prolong the impact Duncan and Splitter can have by sharing the load. In a fast flowing, changing ends game he will be less useful.

Hater is a knob.

[hater]

just speaking the truth

Baynes has no finesse to his game, no panache. it's all brute brawn shit australian bumpercar ball. in the old days, white boy would have been put out of comission, but NBA bigmen these days are plain pathetic.

[Pop]

Yet he shoots better than Splitter and has even shown a nice bank shot while Tiago only has a terrible hook shot.

[Nero5]

You see there is a smattering of contribution to the topic in haters last post that gives me some hope, but you can't help but troll in a mad grasp for attention.
Baynes is a useful role player as are 95% of NBA players. The Spurs roster is full of them and when each plays to their potential they are a powerful unit. Relying on one particularly gifted player too much fails when they have an off night or stop contributing as they age...or when team chemistry wanes e.g. Lakers.

[hater]

You see there is a smattering of contribution to the topic in haters last post that gives me some hope, but you can't help but troll in a mad grasp for attention.
Baynes is a useful role player as are 95% of NBA players. The Spurs roster is full of them and when each plays to their potential they are a powerful unit. Relying on one particularly gifted player too much fails when they have an off night or stop contributing as they age...or when team chemistry wanes e.g. Lakers.

unfortunately the fact that playoffs are looming and rotations shrink to about 8-9 players escape you. Also the fact that basketball is a sport where one little mistake can cost you the game or a 5/6 point swing. And finally in Pop's system there is even less room for error. Nice try though.

[Nero5]

ahhh, here hater your efforts to be obtuse means that you quibble when you should not, but it behooves me to reply in kind.
So, in terms suitable for the hard of thinking, let me rephrase: Few players on any roster are more than role players.
Some will have more than one roll in any given game.
Few players can carry a team e.g. manu and timmy in his prime or TP now.
Relying on those players when they age (reducing in physical capability and recovery) places more demand on the role players.
Mistakes happen, apart from limiting you own teams, it's what you do when they happen that makes the difference.
In this regard some role players have more testicular fortitude and never drop their head (a little double entendre there that I'm sure will curl your toes with homoerotic glee)
Reduced rotations do not alter this fact, but instead highlight the failings of the role players in any given game.
Baynes current perceived role will be to spare TD and Splitter in the easier game. It's ugly, but within his remit and it's what he gets paid for. Though the fact that he costs what, around 1/5th of Splitter (?) currently makes him a bit of a bargain.

[Fabbs]

Bonner > Baynes. Always.
Awesome.

[ChumpDumper]

Awesome.Never said that. Two very different players. Different roles.

[Pop]

bonner >>> baynes

Better at what? Certainly not at altering shots and rebounding.

[tim_duncan_fan]

Baynes wouldn't be a second thought if Splitter wasn't such a girl.

All that soft shit around the hoop is gonna get shut down when things get tough in the playoffs. I wish dude had a vertical jump greater than 2 inches and weighed more than 100lbs so he could finish even when being defended by someone with decent NBA strength.

[Pop]

Baynes wouldn't be a second thought if Splitter wasn't such a girl.

All that soft shit around the hoop is gonna get shut down when things get tough in the playoffs. I wish dude had a vertical jump greater than 2 inches and weighed more than 100lbs so he could finish even when being defended by someone with decent NBA strength.

That's a good point and why Splitter is not worth 10+ Millions.

[tenbeersbold]

Baynes would be useful if we meet OKC in the WCF.

The Thunder know our system too well,credit Presti for that

We would need to really shake it up and given their tendency to shut down Parker I would hazard that adding Manu to the starting lineup or Neal w/ Baynes instead of Tiago would throw them for a loop given that Gary/Manu can get their own shot plus w/ Baynes you just pound it in,his size/strength cant be matched by OKC

Baynes finishes with authority,Tiago is too used to EU ball and finishing soft cause even though EU ball has tougher defenses it has no athletic shot blockers hence his ugly toss-ups that get swatted by more athletic NBA bigs which the Thunder have

Get some people in foul trouble and throw 'em a look guaranteed to throw 'em off balance
If Baynes gets Perkins in foul trouble Timmy is gonna have a monster night.


Plus Baynes shouldnt be above a hard foul or two,been awhile since the Spurs had someone his size to dish it out.I can't be the only person who saw that a few hard fouls in last years WCF mighta slowed down the cocky Thunder

[Fabbs]

shooting 3s
knowing where to stand
:lol good ones.

[Budkin]

We probably just need to trade him to Houston for cash and call it a day.

[capek]

We probably just need to trade him to Houston for cash and call it a day.

Too soon :nope

[exstatic]

Four blocks, bitches.

[exstatic]

Baynes wouldn't be a second thought if Splitter wasn't such a girl.

All that soft shit around the hoop is gonna get shut down when things get tough in the playoffs. I wish dude had a vertical jump greater than 2 inches and weighed more than 100lbs so he could finish even when being defended by someone with decent NBA strength.

Splitter is a girl.

He has a vertical much higher than 2 inches, he just doesn't use it. He goes out of his way to finish with a soft reverse instead of SHOVING THE BALL THROUGH THE GOD DAMN RIM.

[TampaDude]

Baynes got sent to the Toros.

[hater]

Baynes got sent to the Toros.

:lmao

[Fabbs]

Bonner 22 minutes vs Lakers tonight in helping them clinch a playoff spot.
Baynes DNP.

Clint has some words for you Pop.
http://cdn.fd.uproxx.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/eastwood.jpg
You pussy!

[benstanfield]

Because those McDonald's Bonner playoff cups aint gonna sell themselves.

[Fabbs]

While Greggor was starting Matty last night showing their relationship is as strong as ever.....

Was Baynes even suited up?

[Brazil]

While Greggor was starting Matty last night showing their relationship is as strong as ever.....

Was Baynes even suited up?

cauz he doesn't spread the floor

I have no issue with Baynes seeing 0 minute but Bonner starting while Diaw is watching on the bench is stupid

[taps]

Felt like Matt had more Jabonners than three attempts last night.

[Fabbs]

Is Baynes even on the team for the rest of the playoffs?
Or did Pop consider him too much of a threat to his and Bonbons relationship?

[Fabbs]

Barnes vs Memphis bigs instead of Bonner please.

[milkyway21]

Matt Bonner waxes poetic on his role in the ‘best jump ball of all time’


http://ph.sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nba-ball-dont-lie/matt-bonner-waxes-poetic-role-best-jump-ball-190811390.html


"I don't know if you could say I won the jump ball. But I didn't lose the jump ball." — San Antonio Spurs forward Matt Bonner, who is the best, to Deadspin's Alan Siegel in a "brief oral history" of his hilarious jump ball vs. Memphis Grizzlies forward Zach Randolph early in the fourth quarter of the Spurs' Game 2 win over the Grizzlies on Tuesday.

Do yourself the service of heading over to Deadspin for the rest. You deserve it. And whether or not Bonner considers himself the "winner" of the jump ball, I think it's fair to say that, every time we watch it, we all win. :)

:lmao @ red mamba

[Fabbs]

74-70. Just what we need right now is Baynes to counter ZBo abusing Bonbon.

[Spurs Brazil]

Can someone please tell me why Bonner gets minutes?

[pgardn]

Can someone please tell me why Bonner gets minutes?

Because Blair does not?... Alex.