How Do The Lakers Always Achieve These Lop-Sided Trades?

[JingleJangleJingle]

As the Lakers oppression of the NBA slowly fades away, their only chance of surviving is if they manage to accomplish one of their patent one-side trades. My question is how do they always manage to pull it off?

Like the CP3 trade that was almost in the bag...the Hornets were going to give up their franchise player and not shed any cap space to rebuild in the process while the Lakers got the best PG in the league and shed 20 million dollars. How was that even a possibility?

Why do teams even try to deal with the Lakers...

[irishock]

No conspiracy. They're just prone to mitchslaps.

[StrengthAndHonor]

Players loves LA. Its the biggest and most popular market (basketball-wise) globally. CP3 wanted to come to L.A. specifically to the Lakers during that summer. He was highly upset when the trade was shot down. I guess he never knew the Clippers would invest so much money just like what Sterling is doing now.


It doesn't matter if Dwight bolts somewhere else. After 2014 in which 3 huge deals expires for them, they'll be able to sign Top FA no matter what. I could see any of the sought after young players like Kyrie Irving, John Wall, Kevin Love etc forcing a trade to this team.

[DMC]

Yeah something about capitalism and free agents. It's not so much a trade as it is avoiding the player leaving for nothing when they become a free agent.

LA Lakers fans are fickle though, so there's likely a shit ton of Clippers jerseys being sold in that market about right now.

[StrengthAndHonor]

Yeah something about capitalism and free agents. It's not so much a trade as it is avoiding the player leaving for nothing when they become a free agent.

LA Lakers fans are fickle though, so there's likely a shit ton of Clippers jerseys being sold in that market about right now.


A footlocker store here in downtown LA has about 90% Clippers merchandise this season. That store has nothing but Lakers gear for the past 5 years. lol. They have Griffin, CP3 jerseys along with Lebron and Kobe jerseys displayed at the front store. Dwight's items surprisingly can be found back in the corner along with some Gasol and Nash stuff.

[NRHector]

Players loves LA. Its the biggest and most popular market (basketball-wise) globally. CP3 wanted to come to L.A. specifically to the Lakers during that summer. He was highly upset when the trade was shot down. I guess he never knew the Clippers would invest so much money just like what Sterling is doing now.


It doesn't matter if Dwight bolts somewhere else. After 2014 in which 3 huge deals expires for them, they'll be able to sign Top FA no matter what. I could see any of the sought after young players like Kyrie Irving, John Wall, Kevin Love etc forcing a trade to this team.

I wonder how CP3 feels know after the Lakers failure

[Arcadian]

Players loves LA. Its the biggest and most popular market (basketball-wise) globally. ... It doesn't matter if Dwight bolts somewhere else. After 2014 in which 3 huge deals expires for them, they'll be able to sign Top FA no matter what.

Heh...so in a way, their championships aren't as meaningful as other teams' because they don't have to "work as hard" for them in a sense. They don't have to worry about rebuilding every so often; they can just rely on being bailed out with the best players. If they're able to sign top FAs "no matter what" on a regular basis, that's what I must conclude.

[rayjayjohnson]

Players loves LA. Its the biggest and most popular market (basketball-wise) globally. CP3 wanted to come to L.A. specifically to the Lakers during that summer. He was highly upset when the trade was shot down. I guess he never knew the Clippers would invest so much money just like what Sterling is doing now.


It doesn't matter if Dwight bolts somewhere else. After 2014 in which 3 huge deals expires for them, they'll be able to sign Top FA no matter what. I could see any of the sought after young players like Kyrie Irving, John Wall, Kevin Love etc forcing a trade to this team.

CN right on the money.

[rayjayjohnson]

Wait, that wasnt CN

[Clipper Nation]

Tbh, StrengthAndHonor brought the bads.... CP3 just wanted LA, he was cool with either the Lakers or the Clippers.... after the veto, he started instructing the Clippers on who to sign (hence the Caron and Chauncey signings), so by then he wanted the Clippers 100%....

As for free agency, the Lakers are still a destination for sure, but they actually have competition now from the Heat and Clippers.... and the Lakers will have some problems attracting veteran free agents if they continue to suck while the Heat and Clippers continue to dominate....

[Capt Bringdown]

Well, there was the 90's, a pretty-much lost decade for the Lakers, but it took once-in-a-lifetime sensation MJ to bring that about.

[Clipper Nation]

Well, there was the 90's, a pretty-much lost decade for the Lakers, but it took once-in-a-lifetime sensation MJ to bring that about.
Yeah, but nowadays, the league has four marketing phenoms who aren't on the Lakers: LeBron, CP3, Griffin, and Durant.... the NBA can survive a crap decade for the Lakers....

[Capt Bringdown]

the NBA can survive a crap decade for the Lakers....

I think the league always could/can survive & thrive with more of a basketball purist approach that celebrated league parity and team play. But the superstar/superteam marketing is here to stay until there's a compelling business reason to change.
For the league, betting on the Lakers continues to be a safe bet. I don't see that changing.
We will be here, probably sooner than later, complaining about some absurd trade/deal/signing that disproportionately benefited the Lakers.

[024]

same reason the knicks got chandler/melo/amare/kidd/jr smith.

1. every player wants to play in good cities and not some run down town like detroit. there are more stuff to do in new york and los angeles.
2. large markets have unlimited pocketbooks. they don't have to penny pinch or worry about if they will be profitable.
3. large market also means more attention and $$$ from endorsements.

[DMC]

I wonder how CP3 feels know after the Lakers failure

He probably feels like some frijole eater on some random forum doesn't know the difference between "know" and "now". Just guessing.

[DMC]

As the Lakers oppression of the NBA slowly fades away, their only chance of surviving is if they manage to accomplish one of their patent one-side trades. My question is how do they always manage to pull it off?

Like the CP3 trade that was almost in the bag...the Hornets were going to give up their franchise player and not shed any cap space to rebuild in the process while the Lakers got the best PG in the league and shed 20 million dollars. How was that even a possibility?

Why do teams even try to deal with the Lakers...

Avante

[StrengthAndHonor]

Tbh, StrengthAndHonor brought the bads.... CP3 just wanted LA, he was cool with either the Lakers or the Clippers.... after the veto, he started instructing the Clippers on who to sign (hence the Caron and Chauncey signings), so by then he wanted the Clippers 100%....

As for free agency, the Lakers are still a destination for sure, but they actually have competition now from the Heat and Clippers.... and the Lakers will have some problems attracting veteran free agents if they continue to suck while the Heat and Clippers continue to dominate....

No, I had it right. You're probably not a real Clippers fan to even question that. Everyone knew Chris and Kobe has been talking during that summer.


A trade that could send Chris Paul to the Los Angeles Lakers might still have life.
A deal was reportedly in place Thursday that would have given the New Orleans Hornets Lamar Odom and Pau Gasol in exchange for Paul. The trade was essentially vetoed by the NBA, however. The league currently owns the Hornets.


Chris Paul doesn't want to beat Kobe Bryant and the Lakers, he wants to join them. (AP Photo)
Paul is "fuming" because the deal didn't go through, according to ESPN.com's Mark Stein, who reports the All-Star point guard wants to pursue legal action.

The NBA office released a statement denying the decision had anything to do with pressure from league owners, but at least one owner complained to the NBA office about the Paul trade.
Cleveland Cavaliers owner Dan Gilbert, in an email to the league office that was later obtained by The New York Times and Yahoo! Sports, said it would be "a travesty to allow the Lakers to acquire Chris Paul in the apparent trade discussed." Gilbert referred to the possibility of the Lakers having Paul and Kobe Bryant and then acquiring Orlando Magic center Dwight Howard.
But Broussard is reporting Howard is going to ask for a trade to the New Jersey Nets, where he will likely team up with All-Star point guard Deron Williams. Broussard tweets the Nets are Howard's "No. 1 choice."





And then this....


ORLANDO, Fla. -- Chris Paul and Kobe Bryant have discussed playing together before.

While wearing the same colors at all-star games and for Team USA, they’d talk about how unstoppable they’d be if ever on the same team.

“We won’t lose,” Paul says.

They’ll get a chance to play on the same team on Sunday night at the NBA All-Star game as the Western Conference’s starting guards.

Back in December, they were almost teammates. L.A., Houston and New Orleans agreed to a three-way deal that would’ve sent Paul to the Lakers. The league spurned the deal, of course, and eventually Paul was dealt to the Clippers.

But Paul, who didn’t want to discuss the Lakers, knows he and Bryant would’ve been deadly together.

“Kobe’s a killer; we both have that in common,” Paul said. “We both have that competitive edge and we want to play hard.”

The Lakers would’ve possessed two Hall-of-Fame guards, and Paul believes their games complement each other.

“I don’t have to change that much,” Paul said. “Kobe is a really good shooter. He can create, and when I create I can kick it out to him and he’s able to hit open shots. It’s fun playing in the All-Star game and in the Olympics with him.”


http://espn.go.com/blog/los-angeles/lakers/post/_/id/27536/chris-paul-on-playing-with-kobe-bryant




Paul preferred the Lakers over the Clippers. I mean who wouldn't? Pre-Chris Paul, the Clippers still had no future, they had drafted Blake, sure, but without Paul, I'm pretty sure he will bolt to another team as well. It was only after CP3 was traded to the Clippers when he sang a different tune.

[jeebus]

Tbh, StrengthAndHonor brought the bads

that about sums up all 57 of his posts.

[Seventyniner]

This is actually an argument for getting rid of the maximum salary for individual players. If a player will get paid the max no matter where they sign, most prefer the big cities due to media exposure, endorsements, and nightlife.

Allowing teams to pay individual players as much as they want would solve some of this. Even LeBron might choose $35M in Cleveland over $18M in Miami. However, there would have to be an absolute hard cap to make this work.

Then again, the league is in the business of making money as opposed to trying to promote parity. This will always stack the deck against the small markets.

[Galileo]

No conspiracy. They're just prone to mitchslaps.

:downspin:

[HI-FI]

This is actually an argument for getting rid of the maximum salary for individual players. If a player will get paid the max no matter where they sign, most prefer the big cities due to media exposure, endorsements, and nightlife.

Allowing teams to pay individual players as much as they want would solve some of this. Even LeBron might choose $35M in Cleveland over $18M in Miami. However, there would have to be an absolute hard cap to make this work.

Then again, the league is in the business of making money as opposed to trying to promote parity. This will always stack the deck against the small markets.
this.

unfortunately the players union wants neither of those two options, and probably most of the owners don't care about parity either as long as they think the old way makes them more cash.

as for Lakers lop sided trades, the Pau Gasol trade might have been more about the Jerry West connection. It still seems shady but that's per par with lakers.

[Kool Bob Love]

:lol

[IrisHockey]

:lol

What's so funny koony

[LkrFan]

Tbh, StrengthAndHonor brought the bads.... CP3 just wanted LA, he was cool with either the Lakers or the Clippers.... after the veto, he started instructing the Clippers on who to sign (hence the Caron and Chauncey signings), so by then he wanted the Clippers 100%....

As for free agency, the Lakers are still a destination for sure, but they actually have competition now from the Heat and Clippers.... and the Lakers will have some problems attracting veteran free agents if they continue to suck while the Heat and Clippers continue to dominate....
:lmao

[KobeOwnsDuncan]

:lmao "Clippers dominate".That's ZERO titles talking.

[KobeOwnsDuncan]

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:rollin

[LkrFan]

General manager
Gary Sacks (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Gary_Sacks&action=edit&redlink=1)


Head coach
Doc Rivers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doc_Rivers)


D-League (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NBA_Development_League) affiliate
Bakersfield Jam (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bakersfield_Jam)


Championships (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_NBA_champions)
0


Conference titles (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NBA_Conference_Finals)
0


Division titles
2 (2013 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012%E2%80%9313_NBA_season), 2014 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013%E2%80%9314_NBA_season))




:rollin
:lol

[313]

:lmao "Clippers dominate".That's ZERO titles talking.

:lol