R.I.P. Aaron Swartz

[mouse]

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Adding to the list of mysterious deaths that have happened over the last few days, internet visionary and brilliant internet activist Aaron Swartz was found dead yesterday.

The news labels him as merely the co-founder of Reddit. What they forget, is he was a fiery young man spearheading the internet freedom movement.

he is also the co-creator of RSS technology, and the KEY ACTIVIST who achieved a stunning defeat of the freedom-crushing SOPA / PIPA bills in the U.S. Congress. and the Cyber Intelligence Sharing and Protection Act (CISPA).

Without the internet, the liberty movement is severely crippled. Without a free and open internet, you wouldn't be reading this. Without a free internet, we wouldn't exist. If not for Aaron and DP, those bills may just have killed it.

We at CTWJV have much gratitude for his work. In maintaining the freedom of the World Wide Web, he helped to preserve, for now, what is possibly the greatest tool for preserving our great Republic.

May he rest in peace, but let us never forget who drove him to this point. The United States Government's relentless persecution of a patriot, the hallmark of our tyrannical regime, is the reason he is no longer with us.

This is the reason we must keep fighting. His untimely death shall not be in vain. The best way to celebrate his legacy, is to fight to preserve it.

Rest In Peace, Aaron Swartz. Be assured that your life was not in vain.


Visionary internet activist Aaron Swartz found dead; was this brilliant internet revolutionary 'taken out?'
http://www.naturalnews.com/038650_Aaron_Swartz_suicide_assassination.html

[mouse]

http://www.infowars.com/ron-paul-who-else-is-on-obamas-secret-kill-list/

BiKmFr0LzGk

Mysterious deaths of people who question government now becoming more frequent
The official explanation is that Swartz "hanged himself" with a rope in his own apartment. I'm certain that sooner or later additional information will come out about how he also knocked out his own teeth and beat himself badly before hanging himself, because that's the way these "suicides" of activists usually turn out.

Swartz's death is just one of many mysterious deaths that have recently taken place. Just a few days ago, a celebrated rifle manufacturer named John Noveske was killed in a mysterious car crash -- not long after posting details of all the school shooters who were taking psychiatric drugs.

Another prominent internet technology pioneer committed "suicide" just over a year ago. Ilya Zhitomirskiy co-created Diaspora, the so-called 'Facebook-killer' technology that created a free, decentralized technology system that posed a severe threat to the data-mining monopoly of Facebook.

It has also been reported and confirmed that radio host Alex Jones was stalked by gun-toting goons while in New York to appear on CNN. They tried to force him into some sort of altercation, but he escaped by hailing a cab and fleeing the area.

The next day, CNN guests announced live on the air that Piers Morgan should shoot Alex Jones with an AR-15, and they even threatened Alex's children with a thinly-veiled comment about "I hope his children don't die."

Furthermore, another person I know who is a powerful activist for truth and freedom was very nearly killed yesterday in what looks like a planned automobile accident. He doesn't yet wish to release his name or any further details, but from what he described to me, he was just "inches" away from being turned into roadkill.

As these mysterious deaths start to add up, intelligent people are asking questions: Is this part of a deliberate assassination campaign to take out top activists who question the government?

It's not an unreasonable question given our current political climate and the existence of Obama's secret kill list. Even Ron Paul has openly asked the question of who is on Obama's kill list.

Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/038650_Aaron_Swartz_suicide_assassination.html#ixz z2Hq9v5Sbn

[Wild Cobra]

Mysterious?

You mean he was looking forward to millions in fines, and a 50+ year prison term?

[redzero]

RIP in pieces

[ElNono]

Cant wait for Galileo's 'what really happened to Aaron Swartz' thread :hungry:

[DMC]

Mouse, if you believe in God, Aaron is in hell. He committed suicide.

[boutons_deux]

why is AS's sucide "mysterious"? Surely his docs and friends knew he was a life-time depressive?

Natural News is a pretty good site for health info, kinda lightweight, but when Health Ranger veers into social and political stuff, he's a jerk.

[ElNono]

US Attorney Chided Swartz On Day of Suicide

"The e-mail that Defendant Swartz's supplemental memorandum (https://ia700504.us.archive.org/29/items/gov.uscourts.mad.137971/gov.uscourts.mad.137971.100.1.pdf) (pdf) cites as paramount to his fifth motion to suppress [evidence against him] is relevant, but not nearly as important as he tries to make it out to be,' quipped United States Attorney Carmen M. Ortiz (https://ia700504.us.archive.org/29/items/gov.uscourts.mad.137971/gov.uscourts.mad.137971.104.0.pdf) (pdf) in a court filing made on the same day Aaron Swartz committed suicide (http://news.slashdot.org/story/13/01/12/1240255/aaron-swartz-commits-suicide). In the 1-7-2011 e-mail Ortiz refers to, which was not produced for Swartz until Dec. 14th — almost two years after his 1-6-2011 arrest — a Secret Service agent reported to the Assistant U.S. Attorney that he was 'prepared to take custody anytime' of Swartz's laptop, although no one had yet sought a warrant to search the computer. In Prosecutor as Bully (http://lessig.tumblr.com/post/40347463044/prosecutor-as-bully), Larry Lessig laments, 'They [JSTOR] declined to pursue their own action against Aaron, and they asked the government to drop its. MIT, to its great shame, was not as clear, and so the prosecutor had the excuse he needed to continue his war against the "criminal" who we who loved him knew as Aaron.' Swartz's family also had harsh words for MIT and prosecutors (http://rememberaaronsw.tumblr.com/post/40372208044/official-statement-from-the-family-and-partner-of-aaron): 'Decisions made by officials in the Massachusetts U.S. Attorney's office and at MIT contributed to his death. The US Attorney's office pursued an exceptionally harsh array of charges, carrying potentially over 30 years in prison, to punish an alleged crime that had no victims. Meanwhile, unlike JSTOR, MIT refused to stand up for Aaron.' With MIT President Emeritus Charles M. Vest (http://www.nationalmathandscience.org/about-us/nmsi-board/charles-m-vest) currently serving as a Trustee of JSTOR parent Ithaka (http://www.ithaka.org/trustee) as well as a Trustee of The MIT Corporation (http://web.mit.edu/corporation/members/Vest-C.html), one might have expected MIT to issue a statement similar to the let's-put-this-behind-us one (http://about.jstor.org/news/jstor-statement-misuse-incident-and-criminal-case) JSTOR made on the Swartz case back in 2011."

[boutons_deux]

You Can't Fight City Hall (esp if you're mentally ill)

[ElNono]

Petition to remove the DA

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/remove-united-states-district-attorney-carmen-ortiz-office-overreach-case-aaron-swartz/RQNrG1Ck

[SA210]

RIP, he was a true Patriot and a major threat to this corrupt murderous criminal administration.


http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/jan/12/aaron-swartz-heroism-suicide1



"Here is where we need a better sense of justice, and shame. For the outrageousness in this story is not just Aaron. It is also the absurdity of the prosecutor's behavior. From the beginning, the government worked as hard as it could to characterize what Aaron did in the most extreme and absurd way. The 'property' Aaron had 'stolen', we were told, was worth 'millions of dollars' — with the hint, and then the suggestion, that his aim must have been to profit from his crime. But anyone who says that there is money to be made in a stash of ACADEMIC ARTICLES is either an idiot or a liar. It was clear what this was not, yet our government continued to push as if it had caught the 9/11 terrorists red-handed.


"A kid genius. A soul, a conscience, the source of a question I have asked myself a million times: What would Aaron think? That person is gone today, driven to the edge by what a decent society would only call bullying. I get wrong. But I also get proportionality. And if you don't get both, you don't deserve to have the power of the United States government behind you.
"For remember, we live in a world where the architects of the financial crisis regularly dine at the White House — and where even those brought to 'justice' never even have to admit any wrongdoing, let alone be labeled 'felons'."

[SA210]

http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/20106_466441766751907_2026001721_n.jpg

[spursncowboys]

Mouse, if you believe in God, Aaron is in hell. He committed suicide.
Not all religions believe that. Catholics believe depending on your circumstance, that You might go straight to heaven, or purgatory. I don't think there is anything in the bible about suicide.

[redzero]

http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/20106_466441766751907_2026001721_n.jpg

That question doesn't really make any sense.

I see that the conspiracy theorists are sitting back and waiting for a conspiracy theory to buy into.

[Agloco]

http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/20106_466441766751907_2026001721_n.jpg

Forgot his meds one too many times tbh.

[mouse]

Mouse, if you believe in God, Aaron is in hell. He committed suicide.

And your point is?

[mouse]

Forgot his meds one too many times tbh.

leave it to the wannabee scientist of ST to seek out a medical explanation.

[boutons_deux]

Anonymous hacks MIT after Aaron Swartz's suicide

Hacktivist group defaces university pages after the school promises a full investigation into MIT's role in events leading up to the Internet activist taking his life.
http://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-57563752-93/anonymous-hacks-mit-after-aaron-swartzs-suicide/?tag=nl.e703&s_cid=e703

[Agloco]

leave it to the wannabee scientist of ST to seek out a medical explanation.

It's snails.....all the way down.

[Juggity]

I'm really not sure what Swartz was expecting to happen. He broke into a closet at MIT and stole articles from a database. Forgive me for not sympathizing.

[SA210]

http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/285104_10151244045911446_1596131747_n.jpg

[SA210]

Cenk explains the Obama administrations numerous attempts at trying to silence innocent Americans, such as the case of Aaron Swartz.


"For Aaron Swartz, the act of sharing was a "moral imperative." In his Guerilla Open Access Manifesto, released to the Web in July 2008, he specifically targeted the "world's entire scientific and cultural heritage," which he said "is increasingly being digitized and locked up by a handful of private corporations." Swartz called for those with access to such knowledge to make it available to others. You get to feed at this banquet of knowledge while the rest of the world is locked out. But you need not — indeed, morally, you cannot — keep this privilege for yourselves. You have a duty to share it with the world. And you have: trading passwords with colleagues, filling download requests for friends ... Only those blinded by greed would refuse to let a friend make a copy."*


Aaron Swartz was found dead, apparently having committed suicide after a huge federal case was mounting against him. What did he do? Why was Swartz, a brilliant hacker and innovator who wanted to spread knowledge freely so dangerous in the eyes of the government? Cenk Uygur breaks down the insanely disproportionate case against Swartz.


TYT: Aaron Swartz, Freedom Fighter & Innovator, Found Dead


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SoPgFA5AkUY

[SA210]

Cenk explains the Obama administrations numerous attempts at trying to silence innocent Americans, such as the case of Aaron Swartz.





TYT: Aaron Swartz, Freedom Fighter & Innovator, Found Dead


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SoPgFA5AkUY



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FX6_6POGlcw

[Halberto]

For fuck sake, SA210.... his suicide had nothing to do with your paranoia of someone taking your guns you fuckin psycho.

[ChumpDumper]

Bitch was only going to get six months in the pen.

Your martyr was a pussy.

And lol RT.

[redzero]

http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/285104_10151244045911446_1596131747_n.jpg

How did any of these people "die for our freedoms"?

[boutons_deux]

http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/285104_10151244045911446_1596131747_n.jpg

rabble rousing crap for you rabble

[Agloco]

http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/285104_10151244045911446_1596131747_n.jpg

:cry True Patriots :cry

[SA210]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwPhG0z5ynE

[redzero]

So, what's the point of SA210 actually posting on a message board if all he cares about is spamming pics and videos? He ignores dissenting opinions most of the time, and eventually runs off whenever he actually gets into a discussion.

[Blake]

So, what's the point of SA210 actually posting on a message board if all he cares about is spamming pics and videos? He ignores dissenting opinions most of the time, and eventually runs off whenever he actually gets into a discussion.

He's forwarding the ideas of martyrs/mavericks that instruct their followers not to be followers.

[SA210]

So, what's the point of SA210 actually posting on a message board if all he cares about is spamming pics and videos? He ignores dissenting opinions most of the time, and eventually runs off whenever he actually gets into a discussion.

Not really, but thanks for being a sheep and copying the made up argument of other trolls. :tu

[Blake]

Not really, but thanks for being a sheep and copying the made up argument of other trolls. :tu

Straw sheep

[redzero]

Not really, but thanks for being a sheep and copying the made up argument of other trolls. :tu

:lol You are doing exactly what I described IN THIS VERY SAME THREAD. I don't need to "copy" anybody else because I have eyes and I see what you are doing.

You spammed before. You are spamming now. You will spam in the future. You don't actually care about having discussions about anything since you usually ignore other posters entirely or just call them a sheep or a troll and dismiss everything they say.

You still haven't explained why you think this guy was murdered. I have asked you two questions about the subject of this topic, and you have ignored both of them. Are you actually interested in discussing anything or would you rather post stupid pictures and videos that nobody on here will watch?

[Blake]

:lol You are doing exactly what I described IN THIS VERY SAME THREAD. I don't need to "copy" anybody else because I have eyes and I see what you are doing.

You spammed before. You are spamming now. You will spam in the future. You don't actually care about having discussions about anything since you usually ignore other posters entirely or just call them a sheep or a troll and dismiss everything they say.

You still haven't explained why you think this guy was murdered. I have asked you two questions about the subject of this topic, and you have ignored both of them. Are you actually interested in discussing anything or would you rather post stupid pictures and videos that nobody on here will watch?

In before SA210 announces you are officially on his ignore list.

[SA210]

:lol You are doing exactly what I described IN THIS VERY SAME THREAD. I don't need to "copy" anybody else because I have eyes and I see what you are doing.

You spammed before. You are spamming now. You will spam in the future. You don't actually care about having discussions about anything since you usually ignore other posters entirely or just call them a sheep or a troll and dismiss everything they say.

You still haven't explained why you think this guy was murdered. I have asked you two questions about the subject of this topic, and you have ignored both of them. Are you actually interested in discussing anything or would you rather post stupid pictures and videos that nobody on here will watch?

I've had discussions, many of them before, truth is trolls ask questions not because they care for discussion, only so they can troll any answer given. I'm not interested in having discussions with trolls. That's why they get so mad, I pay them no mind lol. I believe what I believe and nothing they say will change that. It must burn them bad haha

Honestly on this topic, I wouldn't put it passed the government offing the guy. But they definitely went after him hardcore because he was a threat to them passing corrupt legislation. If it was suicide, that played a major part, but I don't doubt at all if the government waxed him. You got an answer, because he was a threat to what they were trying to do, take control of internet (silence independent news, etc). It's not spam, each meme or youtube has a point, may not be a point that makes you feel comfortable or that you want to agree on, but it has a point. Much more of a point than trolls who live on here 24/7 who never have a point other than not having a life and attacking others. Go preach to them about spamming.

[redzero]

Whether something "has a point" or not has nothing to do with whether something is spam or not. I asked you two questions that directly addresses the topic at hand, and you ignored them for some reason. It has nothing whatsoever to do with trolls or trolling and everything to do with the fact that you like spamming. In fact, you probably would have kept on ignoring me had I not called you out on spamming. You seem more interested in defending your character than actually talking about the topic at hand.

You have posted a pic that implied that Aaron was murdered, and I would like you to provide evidence for that assertion. If you don't actually believe that he was murdered, or don't know, then stop posting this conspiracy bullshit.

And of course nobody will change your opinion. You've made up your mind about the matter before the conspiracy theories even came out.

[SA210]

Whether something "has a point" or not has nothing to do with whether something is spam or not. I asked you two questions that directly addresses the topic at hand, and you ignored them for some reason. It has nothing whatsoever to do with trolls or trolling and everything to do with the fact that you like spamming. In fact, you probably would have kept on ignoring me had I not called you out on spamming. You seem more interested in defending your character than actually talking about the topic at hand.

You have posted a pic that implied that Aaron was murdered, and I would like you to provide evidence for that assertion. If you don't actually believe that he was murdered, or don't know, then stop posting this conspiracy bullshit.

And of course nobody will change your opinion. You've made up your mind about the matter before the conspiracy theories even came out.

Bullshit, I called you out on your hypocrisy, and pointed out that you don't care about real answers. Don't twist it just because I call morons, morons with no spine. Not about defending myself so much as it is pointing out posters hypocrisy about talking about red/blue non issues. And it's not spam, yall just use that word because the content makes you feel uneasy. I like how you ignored my answer on how he was a threat to the government. I do believe he was probably murdered. Do you believe Bin Laden was murdered by seal team 6? If so where are the pictures, where's the proof? Oh because they said so? lol Nothing makes you more right than my assumption. What I do have on my side is this administration silencing protestors and whistle-blowers like no other president before, passing NDAA, and using the Espionage Act in trying to do so as well more than all Presidents combined. Go read Operation Northwoods since you think the government would never try anything like this. lol Don't tell me what I can post and not post. I post what I wanna post, put me on ignore if you don't like it.

[Blake]

lol Don't tell me what I can post and not post. I post what I wanna post, put me on ignore if you don't like it.

Aw. He must have unignored me and read my post.

[boutons_deux]

Federal Prosecutor Stephen Heymann Wanted 'Juicy' Case for Publicity--And Found it in Aaron Swartz,
“Back in 2008, another young hacker, Jonathan James, killed himself after being named a suspect in another Heymann case,” reported BuzzFeed. (http://www.buzzfeed.com/justinesharrock/internet-activists-prosecutor-linked-to-another-h)

“Heymann had harassed several of the activist’s friends into testifying before a grand jury.”

http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/federal-prosecutor-stephen-heymann-wanted-juicy-case-publicity-and-found-it-aaron?akid=9926.187590.o-27Ee&rd=1&src=newsletter777398&t=11

[boutons_deux]

Aaron Swartz Could Have Killed Someone, Robbed A Bank & Sold Child Porn & Faced Less Time In Prison




Manslaughter: Federal law provides that someone who kills another human being “[u]pon a sudden quarrel or heat of passion” faces a maximum of 10 years in prison (http://codes.lp.findlaw.com/uscode/18/I/51/1112) if subject to federal jurisdiction. The lesser crime of involuntary manslaughter carries a maximum sentence of only six years.
Bank Robbery: A person who “by force and violence, or by intimidation” robs a bank faces a maximum prison sentence of 20 years (http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2113). If the criminal “assaults any person, or puts in jeopardy the life of any person by the use of a dangerous weapon or device,” this sentence is upped to a maximum of 25 years.
Selling Child Pornography: The maximum prison sentence for a first-time offender who “knowingly sells or possesses with intent to sell” child pornography in interstate commerce is 20 years (http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2252). Significantly, the only way to produce child porn is to sexually molest a child, which means that such a criminal is literally profiting off of child rape or sexual abuse.
Knowingly Spreading AIDS: A person who “after testing positive for the Human Immunodeficiency Virus (HIV) and receiving actual notice of that fact, knowingly donates or sells, or knowingly attempts to donate or sell, blood, semen, tissues, organs, or other bodily fluids for use by another, except as determined necessary for medical research or testing” faces a maximum of 10 years in prison (http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1122).
Selling Slaves: Under federal law, a person who willfully sells another person “into any condition of involuntary servitude” faces a maximum prison sentence of 20 years (http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1584), although the penalty can be much higher if the slaver’s actions involve kidnapping, sexual abuse or an attempt to kill.
Helping al-Qaeda Develop A Nuclear Weapon: A person who “willfully participates in or knowingly provides material support or resources . . . to a nuclear weapons program or other weapons of mass destruction program of a foreign terrorist power, or attempts or conspires to do so, shall be imprisoned for not more than 20 years (http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/832).”
Violence At International Airports: Someone who uses a weapon to “perform[] an act of violence against a person at an airport serving international civil aviation that causes or is likely to cause serious bodily injury” faces a maximum prison sentence of 20 years (http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/37) if their actions do not result in a death.



http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130114/19393821674/aaron-swartz-could-have-killed-someone-robbed-bank-sold-child-porn-faced-less-time-prison.shtml?

[redzero]

More asinine bullshit from the spammer. He calls me a hypocrite again without explaining why. He again fails to understand that posting shit over and over again is spam, because he thinks that whatever he agrees with, by nature, cannot be spam.

So, SA210's argument is basically: these guys did stuff the government didn't like, so it is completely reasonable to believe that the government murdered them. That's his standard for belief. Never mind that thousands of people die in car crashes every year. Never mind that thousands of people are murdered every year. Never mind that thousands of people commit suicide every year.

So, if anybody in disputes with the government dies in any way, it makes sense to assume that they were secretly murdered by the government, because they are somehow exempt from dying.

And SA210, I'm not a question dodging coward, so I won't use the ignore function.

[SA210]

::yawn::

Now, back to the government silencing Americans..

[SA210]

Aaron Swartz Could Have Killed Someone, Robbed A Bank & Sold Child Porn & Faced Less Time In Prison




Manslaughter: Federal law provides that someone who kills another human being “[u]pon a sudden quarrel or heat of passion” faces a maximum of 10 years in prison (http://codes.lp.findlaw.com/uscode/18/I/51/1112) if subject to federal jurisdiction. The lesser crime of involuntary manslaughter carries a maximum sentence of only six years.
Bank Robbery: A person who “by force and violence, or by intimidation” robs a bank faces a maximum prison sentence of 20 years (http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2113). If the criminal “assaults any person, or puts in jeopardy the life of any person by the use of a dangerous weapon or device,” this sentence is upped to a maximum of 25 years.
Selling Child Pornography: The maximum prison sentence for a first-time offender who “knowingly sells or possesses with intent to sell” child pornography in interstate commerce is 20 years (http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2252). Significantly, the only way to produce child porn is to sexually molest a child, which means that such a criminal is literally profiting off of child rape or sexual abuse.
Knowingly Spreading AIDS: A person who “after testing positive for the Human Immunodeficiency Virus (HIV) and receiving actual notice of that fact, knowingly donates or sells, or knowingly attempts to donate or sell, blood, semen, tissues, organs, or other bodily fluids for use by another, except as determined necessary for medical research or testing” faces a maximum of 10 years in prison (http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1122).
Selling Slaves: Under federal law, a person who willfully sells another person “into any condition of involuntary servitude” faces a maximum prison sentence of 20 years (http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1584), although the penalty can be much higher if the slaver’s actions involve kidnapping, sexual abuse or an attempt to kill.
Helping al-Qaeda Develop A Nuclear Weapon: A person who “willfully participates in or knowingly provides material support or resources . . . to a nuclear weapons program or other weapons of mass destruction program of a foreign terrorist power, or attempts or conspires to do so, shall be imprisoned for not more than 20 years (http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/832).”
Violence At International Airports: Someone who uses a weapon to “perform[] an act of violence against a person at an airport serving international civil aviation that causes or is likely to cause serious bodily injury” faces a maximum prison sentence of 20 years (http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/37) if their actions do not result in a death.



http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130114/19393821674/aaron-swartz-could-have-killed-someone-robbed-bank-sold-child-porn-faced-less-time-prison.shtml?

Sad

[redzero]

::yawn::

Now, back to the government silencing Americans..

And just like I stated previously, you don't care about discussion; you care about spamming. You brush off everybody who disagrees with you. You dismiss valid complaints by calling people trolls and sheep and putting them on ignore.

You are doing in this thread exactly what I claimed that you do, yet I'm somehow lying.

Well, whatever. Go back to your conspiracy hugbox and wild, paranoid assumptions. A good sign of being an individual and not a sheep is believing whatever nonsense the conspiracy peddlers put out, I guess.

[ElNono]

http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/23457805.jpg

[SA210]

::yawn::

[Clipper Nation]

Not really, but thanks for being a sheep and copying the made up argument of other trolls. :tu
Son, namecalling and not presenting your own opinions in your own words doesn't help your case, tbh....

[Wild Cobra]

Not really, but thanks for being a sheep and copying the made up argument of other trolls. :tu

Thing is, you are taking tragedy and using it to promote and agenda. You don't even know if how you are wrapping the deaths are true or not. Why are you practicing what the democrats do regularly, and combining it with conspiracy theories that have little possibility?

[SA210]

Son, namecalling and not presenting your own opinions in your own words doesn't help your case, tbh....

I already have offered my opinion, lol But thanks for reading

[Wild Cobra]

Aaron Swartz Could Have Killed Someone, Robbed A Bank & Sold Child Porn & Faced Less Time In Prison

Would that have affected as many people?

[SA210]

Thing is, you are taking tragedy and using it to promote and agenda. You don't even know if how you are wrapping the deaths are true or not. Why are you practicing what the democrats do regularly, and combining it with conspiracy theories that have little possibility?

Don't compare me to democrats, it's disgusting lol. Kuccinich is aight though

[redzero]

Don't compare me to democrats, it's disgusting lol. Kuccinich is aight though

What is so disgusting about being a Democrat?

[ChumpDumper]

I've had discussions, many of them before, truth is trolls ask questions not because they care for discussion, only so they can troll any answer given. I'm not interested in having discussions with trolls. That's why they get so mad, I pay them no mind lol. I believe what I believe and nothing they say will change that. It must burn them bad haha

Honestly on this topic, I wouldn't put it passed the government offing the guy. But they definitely went after him hardcore because he was a threat to them passing corrupt legislation. If it was suicide, that played a major part, but I don't doubt at all if the government waxed him. You got an answer, because he was a threat to what they were trying to do, take control of internet (silence independent news, etc).So you don't even positively believe the government killed him.

It's just like the 9/11 conspiracy you refuse to actually discuss. You know you are too ignorant about the actual subject to do more than post stupid videos and memes. If anyone actually tries to engage you in an actual discussion about your beliefs, you freak out and throw out all manner of ad hominems, nail yourself to the nearest cross and run to the safety of ignore.

It's as predictable as it is pathetic.

[SA210]

What is so disgusting about being a Democrat?

Their hypocrisy. They were so gung ho outraged when war criminal Bush did what he did, but silent when Obama does the same and worse. Is that an answer?

[redzero]

Their hypocrisy. They were so gung ho outraged when war criminal Bush did what he did, but silent when Obama does the same and worse. Is that an answer?

So you think they support a murderer?

[Wild Cobra]

Don't compare me to democrats, it's disgusting lol. Kuccinich is aight though
Why not. You are doing exactly what they do all the time.

[SA210]

So you think they support a murderer?

It's a fact.

He's a murderer, and they know this, and they make excuses for it because it's their guy now that's doing it.

I don't expect a President to be perfect, and deaths will occur during war (although these wars shouldn't be happening to begin with). But a lying President continuing a policy that he ran against, just as his constituents were also against, now somehow continues the policies, even worse than Bush, and they don't say shit about it. Dok and his fellow jock riders like to lie and claim they are not ok with it, but we know that's bullshit because they aren't calling for Obama's head the way they did for Bush. That is a fact. My stance on this is really one of the reasons they try to hate. Hypocrisy. Dead children are dead children under Obama, just as they were under Bush. All these policies, NDAA, secret Kill lists, Espionage Act used on whitleblowers, deporting more Mexicans than Bush in half the time, more pot busts than Bush in half the time, extending Bush tax cuts, Patriot Act, accelerated Drone bombings which have supposedly a 98% failure rate of hitting actual terrorists. Bombing 6 countries in 4 years when Bush bombed 4 in his whole 8 years,. lol So it ain't the memes, or the youtubes, they just don't like this shit thrown in their hypocritical faces, so they just troll and change the subject (not saying you necessarily). How would the Dems be on all these issues right now, if it were still Bush doing them?

Where is the anti-war left now? They seemed to have vanished.

[Clipper Nation]

I already have offered my opinion, lol But thanks for reading
No, you only ever present others' opinions in the form of YouTubes, pictures, and quotes from articles, while doing no actual debating on your own AND calling people "sheep" for not agreeing with your view, tbh...

[ChumpDumper]

There are plenty of Democrats opposed to one or more of Obama's policies.

So what?

[SA210]

No, you only ever present others' opinions in the form of YouTubes, pictures, and quotes from articles, while doing no actual debating on your own AND calling people "sheep" for not agreeing with your view, tbh...


Whatever man, I just posted without a youtube before this one. Any thoughts on what I actually said, pertaining to Democrats?



It's a fact.

He's a murderer, and they know this, and they make excuses for it because it's their guy now that's doing it.

I don't expect a President to be perfect, and deaths will occur during war (although these wars shouldn't be happening to begin with). But a lying President continuing a policy that he ran against, just as his constituents were also against, now somehow continues the policies, even worse than Bush, and they don't say shit about it. Dok and his fellow jock riders like to lie and claim they are not ok with it, but we know that's bullshit because they aren't calling for Obama's head the way they did for Bush. That is a fact. My stance on this is really one of the reasons they try to hate. Hypocrisy. Dead children are dead children under Obama, just as they were under Bush. All these policies, NDAA, secret Kill lists, Espionage Act used on whitleblowers, deporting more Mexicans than Bush in half the time, more pot busts than Bush in half the time, extending Bush tax cuts, Patriot Act, accelerated Drone bombings which have supposedly a 98% failure rate of hitting actual terrorists. Bombing 6 countries in 4 years when Bush bombed 4 in his whole 8 years,. lol So it ain't the memes, or the youtubes, they just don't like this shit thrown in their hypocritical faces, so they just troll and change the subject (not saying you necessarily). How would the Dems be on all these issues right now, if it were still Bush doing them?

Where is the anti-war left now? They seemed to have vanished.

[Clipper Nation]

Whatever man, I just posted without a youtube before this one. Any thoughts on what I actually said, pertaining to Democrats?
"All Democrats are hypocrites because I said so" is not a very compelling argument, tbh...

[SA210]

"All Democrats are hypocrites because I said so" is not a very compelling argument, tbh...

Not what I said and you know it, I said they are hypocrites for the reasons/facts I stated, and for you to lie about that and twist it shows how you are no different than the other trolls. It's not the first thing you have twisted and exaggerated, tbh.

[ElNono]

"All Democrats are hypocrites because I said so" is not a very compelling argument, tbh...

You must have missed all the pictures/youtubes spam that say that for him...

[Clipper Nation]

Not what I said and you know it, I said they are hypocrites for the reasons/facts I stated, and for you to lie about that and twist it shows how you are no different than the other trolls. It's not the first thing you have twisted and exaggerated, tbh.
Your basis as a whole isn't factual because you have no proof that ALL Democrats are less critical of Obama's foreign policy than they were with Dubya, tbh...

And no, :cry DOK's not criticizing Obama enough on SpursTalk :cry is not proof...

[SA210]

Your basis as a whole isn't factual because you have no proof that ALL Democrats are less critical of Obama's foreign policy than they were with Dubya, tbh...

And no, :cry DOK's not criticizing Obama enough on SpursTalk :cry is not proof...

What a little bitch you are. Get off the bandwagon and be a leader. I posted here back when Bush was doing all his crap years ago, and the left on this board were very outspoken and calling for his head. Now they are silent. That's a fact, no matter how you spin it. Out in the real world, Democrats criticized Bush for the same types of policies they support Obama in now. That isn't some made up bullshit, it's a fact. Biden, Pelosi, a shit load of them now are ok with the same types of policies. Stop being a fake Libertarian, go outside, and make a change in the real world instead of beating your chest chasing ppl around in message boards being happy about petty troll victories. You're a damn liar to try and act like Democrats are not EXTREMELY hypocritical scumbags right now, especially after how they acted about Bush. lol Bandwagoner. You give Libertarians a bad name lol democrat sympathizer

[ChumpDumper]

posting YouTubes = leadership

There's gotta be a meme in there somewhere.

[Clipper Nation]

What a little bitch you are. Get off the bandwagon and be a leader. I posted here back when Bush was doing all his crap years ago, and the left on this board were very outspoken and calling for his head. Now they are silent. That's a fact, no matter how you spin it. Out in the real world, Democrats criticized Bush for the same types of policies they support Obama in now. That isn't some made up bullshit, it's a fact. Biden, Pelosi, a shit load of them now are ok with the same types of policies. Stop being a fake Libertarian, go outside, and make a change in the real world instead of beating your chest chasing ppl around in message boards being happy about petty troll victories. You're a damn liar to try and act like Democrats are not EXTREMELY hypocritical scumbags right now, especially after how they acted about Bush. lol Bandwagoner. You give Libertarians a bad name lol democrat sympathizer
:lol Meltdown

What exactly have you been "leading"? Can you post YouTube videos of your "leadership"? And no, posting on SpursTalk isn't "leadership," tbh :lol

[Clipper Nation]

Btw, not mindlessly accepting every half-baked Alex Jones conspiracy theory doesn't make me a "fake libertarian," it makes me a rational human being capable of critical thought :lol

[SA210]

:lol Meltdown

What exactly have you been "leading"? Can you post YouTube videos of your "leadership"? And no, posting on SpursTalk isn't "leadership," tbh :lol


Nah, just telling it like it is. I have no interest in telling a troll my personal business.

[SA210]

Btw, not mindlessly accepting every half-baked Alex Jones conspiracy theory doesn't make me a "fake libertarian," it makes me a rational human being capable of critical thought :lol

Another lie and exaggeration.

[ChumpDumper]

Nah, just telling it like it is. I have no interest in telling a troll my personal business.So you aren't leading, but you are telling others to do so.

[Blake]

Another lie and exaggeration.

but everything from youtube is the straight truth.

Sheep210

[Agloco]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwPhG0z5ynE

Forget Aaron Swartz for a moment. I'm interested in how the plans for that pre-emptive strike on China are going. Any more news from your friends at RT SA210?

[boutons_deux]

Marcy Wheeler: DOJ Used the Open Access Guerilla Manifesto to Do More than Justify Prosecution, They Justified a Search of Aaron Swartz’ Home (http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2013/02/marcy-wheeler-doj-used-the-open-access-guerilla-manifesto-to-do-more-than-justify-prosecution-they-justified-a-search-of-aaron-swartz-home.html)




A Justice Department representative told congressional staffers during a recentbriefing (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/15/aaron-swartz-prosecution_n_2695356.html) on the computer fraud prosecution of Internet activist Aaron Swartz that Swartz’s “Guerilla Open Access Manifesto (http://archive.org/stream/GuerillaOpenAccessManifesto/Goamjuly2008_djvu.txt)” played a role in the prosecution, sources told The Huffington Post.
[snip]

The “Manifesto,” Justice Department representatives told congressional staffers, demonstrated Swartz’s malicious intent in downloading documents on a massive scale.
[snip]

Reich told congressional staffers that the Justice Department believed federal prosecutors acted in a reasonable manner, according to the sources. He also made clear that prosecutors were in part influenced by wanting to deter others from committing similar offenses.

When considering punishment, courts are supposed to impose an “adequate deterrence to criminal conduct” under federal statute (http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/3553). Swartz’s “Manifesto,” prosecutors said they believed, made clear that he intended to share the academic articles widely.



And look at the passage from the Manifesto they quote in the brief, which appears in this larger passage.



There is no justice in following unjust laws. It’s time to come into the light and, in the grand tradition of civil disobedience, declare our opposition to this private theft of public culture.

We need to take information, wherever it is stored, make our copies and share them with the world. We need to take stuff that’s out of copyright and add it to the archive. We need to buy secret databases and put them on the Web. We need to download scientific journals and upload them to file sharing networks. [my emphasis]


In context, much of the manifesto advocates for things that are perfectly legal: sharing documents under Fair Use. Taking information that is out of copyright and making it accessible. Purchasing databases and putting them on the web.

Aside from sharing passwords, about the only thing that might be illegal here (depending on copyright!) is downloading scientific journals and uploading them to file sharing networks.


Threat Level reveals (http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2013/02/aaron-swartz-manifesto/) the government went so far as subpoenaing various versions of the manifesto from Internet Archive.


His attorney, ****** Peters, said prosecutors were “very focused” on the manifesto Swartz penned from Italy.

“They were very focused on it, and appeared to be planning to use it as evidence of Aaron’s intent to take the JSTOR material and somehow post it online to make it available for all,” Peters told Wired on Friday. “They had spent a lot of energy investigating that document — who wrote it, whether it conveyed Aaron’s point of view, etc.”

The government, Peters said, “had also subpoenaed various versions of the document from the Internet Archive,” Peters said.


This was part of the fishing expeditions (http://www.emptywheel.net/2013/01/14/what-kind-of-fishing-trip-did-the-government-conduct-into-aaron-swartz-amazon-data/) Swartz’ lawyer was trying to win discovery on back in 2012.

DOJ told Congress it believed the Manifesto would prove motive — that Swartz planned to share the journals widely. But that only underscores that had he used them for his own purposes — to collect data on who funded what studies and what kind of results they produced, as he had in the past — they would have had a hard time claiming this was a crime at all.

It appears that, only by researching the Manifesto, a First Amendment protected publication that largely espoused legal information sharing, did the government even get around to treating this as a crime.

http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2013/02/marcy-wheeler-doj-used-the-open-access-guerilla-manifesto-to-do-more-than-justify-prosecution-they-justified-a-search-of-aaron-swartz-home.html#stZ4P3wuQ3ZE2AjR.99

You Can't Beat City Hall (they will break/pervert any law to crush you)

[SA210]

Hope/Change/Transparency

[ChumpDumper]

So he had even less reason to kill himself.

[Winehole23]

How did we wind up with a country where an activist is prosecuted like a major criminal for downloading articles from a database for noncommercial purposes, while no one goes to prison for the immense financial fraud of 2008 that bankrupted millions? As a person who has made a living as an Internet “content provider” for almost 20 years, I’m well aware that we can’t simply do away with the concept of copyright or intellectual property. I never download pirated movies, not because I care so much about the bottom line at Sony or Warner Bros., but because it just doesn’t feel right, and because you can never be sure who’s getting hurt. We’re not going to settle the debate about intellectual property rights in the digital age in a movie review, but we can say this: Aaron Swartz had chosen his targets carefully, and so did the government when it fixed its sights on him. (In fact, JSTOR suffered no financial loss, and urged the feds to drop the charges. They refused.)http://www.salon.com/2014/06/24/the_internets_own_boy_how_the_government_destroyed _aaron_swartz/