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spursmartyr
01-14-2013, 07:31 PM
Prove me wrong, how is that not a charge? :eyebrows

TrainOfThought5
01-14-2013, 07:34 PM
Prove me wrong, how is that not a charge? :eyebrows

....... wut?

Chinook
01-14-2013, 07:36 PM
I love how I knew what you meant instantly. I love the crowd's reaction to that call.

Texas_Ranger
01-14-2013, 07:37 PM
he was still moving.

Mel_13
01-14-2013, 07:42 PM
52 seconds in:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZdik09RGJI

Juggity
01-14-2013, 08:03 PM
Even if called, it doesn't change the outcome of that game tbh.

spurraider21
01-14-2013, 08:07 PM
As announcers like to say, it was a bang-bang play. Pretty sure rip was still moving once horry left his feet

lmbebo
01-14-2013, 09:01 PM
he turned his shoulder into Horry and didn't take a full on charge.

swaggerjackson
01-14-2013, 09:33 PM
This is something that bothers me tbh. Rip has both feet in the air when the contact is made. That is a good call in my opinion. In today's game they are so lax about being set while taking a charge. Today Rip would get the call, but if you read the rules literally virtually all the charges they call today are incorrect. Bring back the toughness, physicality, hand-checking, hard fouls, and in this case shot blocking. I wish we could see people go up for a block rather than run in the way and fall down.

Rant over

ffadicted
01-14-2013, 09:48 PM
52 seconds in:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZdik09RGJI

legendary horry

deibero
01-14-2013, 10:44 PM
what? 3pt play instead of a charge in a 1pt game? r u kiddin?

Spursfan092120
01-14-2013, 11:33 PM
He hopped right before Horry hit him..not a charge...thanks anyway.

baseline bum
01-14-2013, 11:39 PM
Damn I love Rob, stealing titles from both Detroit and Phoenix.

FromWayDowntown
01-14-2013, 11:40 PM
However you view that play, Steve Javie had some major, major stones to make that call in that arena in that circumstance.

FromWayDowntown
01-14-2013, 11:44 PM
Here's the proof that it wasn't a charge:

1:25.0 R. Horry makes 2-pt shot at rim +2 93-95
1:25.0 Shooting foul by R. Hamilton 93-95
1:25.0 R. Horry misses free throw 1 of 1 93-95

http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/pbp/200506190DET.html

Mel_13
01-14-2013, 11:44 PM
However you view that play, Steve Javie had some major, major stones to make that call in that arena in that circumstance.

Stern conspiracies aside, I always wanted Salvatore at home and Javie on the road.

hooperflash
01-15-2013, 12:10 AM
Rip with the bunny hop at the end lol. No charge.

Spursfan092120
01-15-2013, 12:13 AM
Rip with the bunny hop at the end lol. No charge.
exactly

Sean Cagney
01-15-2013, 03:27 AM
We won the game, but RIP had a HELL OF AN O FOUL at the end of the game! He nearly took Tony's head off with that elbow to clear out! Pistons fans bitched but that was a clear O FOUL NOT CALLED! THANK GOD He missed.

Leetonidas
01-15-2013, 07:21 AM
It's cool, he elbowed the shit out of Tony in OT and didn't get called for it. Plus Horry missed the FT anyway :lol

mosdef17
01-15-2013, 07:44 AM
Rip turned his body slightly as it looks like he was bracing for the contact... Once you do that it's nearly impossible to get the charge call. He may have been .00001 seconds late in getting to the spot. All in all, I think it was the right call. It's a bang bang play, but it's MUCH easier to argue it as a block than it is to argue it as a charge.

spursmartyr
01-15-2013, 08:28 AM
Stern conspiracies aside, I always wanted Salvatore at home and Javie on the road.

& Dan Crawford always & Joey Crawford never.

Seventyniner
01-15-2013, 10:53 AM
Here's the proof that it wasn't a charge:

1:25.0 R. Horry makes 2-pt shot at rim +2 93-95
1:25.0 Shooting foul by R. Hamilton 93-95
1:25.0 R. Horry misses free throw 1 of 1 93-95

http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/pbp/200506190DET.html

BALL DON'T LIE.

As an aside, if the ball don't lie, what does someone making 1 out of 2 FTs mean?

Dex
01-15-2013, 11:00 AM
BALL DON'T LIE.

As an aside, if the ball don't lie, what does someone making 1 out of 2 FTs mean?

The ball doesn't lie, but it stretches the truth.

sananspursfan21
01-15-2013, 11:03 AM
what point are you trying to make with this thread? Are you trolling?

gameFACE
01-15-2013, 12:08 PM
Damn, I miss having a bigman with some nuts and chutzpah. Horry was so fucking cleverly mischevious.

As for Rip, his feet weren't set. Especially his left foot. Just go frame by frame.

EVAY
01-15-2013, 12:13 PM
BALL DON'T LIE.

As an aside, if the ball don't lie, what does someone making 1 out of 2 FTs mean?

It means the ball is unsure.

:)

FromWayDowntown
01-15-2013, 12:32 PM
what point are you trying to make with this thread? Are you trolling?

I think it's meant to remember good times.

Namundy
01-15-2013, 12:41 PM
52 seconds in:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZdik09RGJI

Best part of the whole video is the noise the crowd makes as Ginobili gets trapped and they realize it's Horry wide open for the trey.

Horse
01-15-2013, 01:28 PM
Oh I have an idea FUCK RIP HAMILTON!!!

Seventyniner
01-15-2013, 02:07 PM
As an aside, if the ball don't lie, what does someone making 1 out of 2 FTs mean?

Noone came up with the correct answer: a half-truth.

lefty
01-15-2013, 03:14 PM
TP played like a faggot in those series



Ah right, it wasnt B:lol:lolbie Gibs:loln and the C:lolvs

baseline bum
01-15-2013, 03:21 PM
Stern conspiracies aside, I always wanted Salvatore at home and Javie on the road.

Lunacy

http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/200305190SAS.html

Mel_13
01-15-2013, 03:27 PM
Lunacy

http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/200305190SAS.html

:lol

My general impression was always that Salvatore would bend to a home crowd and Javie never would.

Also, 36 fouls on each team in that game. Too bad that version of the Spurs couldn't make their FTs.

timvp
01-15-2013, 03:33 PM
^That's the first game I think of when I think of Salvatore. The ol' free throw contest in Game 1 of the 2003 WCF that could have cost the Spurs the series. Mavs miss their first free throw and then go 49-of-49 :lol

baseline bum
01-15-2013, 03:36 PM
:lol

My general impression was always that Salvatore would bend to a home crowd and Javie never would.

Also, 36 fouls on each team in that game. Too bad that version of the Spurs couldn't make their FTs.

10 of those Spurs free throws were from intentional fouls on Bowen in the second quarter, so it was hardly an even whistle.

KaiRMD1
01-15-2013, 03:47 PM
You know, when I saw it originally, I always thought the wrong call was made. I'm too lazy to look back and see if Rip's feet really moved but initially, I thought a charge should have been called

Mel_13
01-15-2013, 04:02 PM
10 of those Spurs free throws were from intentional fouls on Bowen in the second quarter, so it was hardly an even whistle.

As I said, it was an impression formed over the years. My impression was that he could be influenced by the crowd, whereas Javie called the game the same way regardless of location.

It's not surprising that there are games to be found that don't fit that impression.