NBC admits there was no AR15 used at Sandy Hook

[TSA]

http://www.ijreview.com/2013/01/30208-nbc-admits-no-assault-rifle-used-in-newtown-shooting/

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NBC Admitted: No ‘Assault Rifle’ Used in Newtown Shooting
KYLE BECKER JANUARY 15, 2013 5:10 PM



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When the president surrounds himself with children while giving his announcement that reasonable gun control measures are necessary, bear in mind that those ‘assault rifles‘ the government is sure to be going after were not even used in the Newton, Connecticut elementary shooting. As NBC admits in the video above, four handguns were used to carry out that despicable atrocity. This directly contradicts other reports.

Pete Williams, who is NBC’s chief Justice correspondent, reported the following in the video posted above:



This continues to be a very complex investigation and there is a lot of contradictory information out there, but we have some new information this morning (one month ago) from a couple of federal officials and state officials.

They say now that there were actually four handguns inside the school, not just two as we were initially told. Four handguns and apparently only handguns that were taken into the school.

We knew that Adam Lanza, the man said to be the gunman here, also had an ‘assault-style’ AR-15 -style rifle that he had had taken to the school, it was in the car he drove there, his mother’s car, but we have been told by several officials that he had left that in the car.

The correspondent makes it clear over and over again that he confirmed this information with federal and state officials. Now, a lot of media reports contradict this one, but somebody’s lying. The report that an ‘AR-15-style’ assault rifle was in the trunk of murderer Adam Lanza’s car is up for dispute as well. If one examines footage from police breaking into Lanza’s car, one sees police clearing a round from a “long gun of some type” that does not appear to be ‘AR-15 style’ or ‘assault-style.’



Whether or not the mainstream media are intentionally spreading disinformation about the Sandy Hook elementary tragedy, there is one thing for certain: not only are violent crime rates at a modern low and going down, but only 323 homicides were committed by rifles in 2011. That includes hunting rifles, assault rifles, military style rifles, semi-automatic rifles and whatever label one comes up with, regardless of magazine or clip capacity.

In a nation of 311 million people, the odds of being killed by a rifle is about one homicide per million people, which is far less than the odds of being murdered by a blunt object. But we don’t hear the media arguing about regulating hammers and clubs. Again, when 99.7% of registered gun owners are law-abiding, gun control is not about guns, it’s about control.







I'm not going to watch that video and stopped following the Sandy Hook tragedy about a week after it happened, but did they ever confirm what guns were used to do all of the shootings? I've heard rumors the AR15 wasn't even used, and it was just handguns. Is what I heard bullshit?

Yes, it's bullshit.

The AR-15 was the main weapon. He left a shotgun in the car and used one of two handguns to off himself.

[TSA]

Surprised at the lack of comments. Is this old news or something? Have I been duped? Serious questions as I stopped following Sandy Hook.

[ChumpDumper]

http://www.ijreview.com/2013/01/30208-nbc-admits-no-assault-rifle-used-in-newtown-shooting/Srsly?

This is still in question to you?

[ChumpDumper]

Surprised at the lack of comments. Is this old news or something? Have I been duped? Serious questions as I stopped following Sandy Hook.Ok, I'll give you a pass if you stopped following it -- but that is right up there with the 9/11 media conspiracies.

News reports that day were all over the place. Hell, they thought Lanza's brother was the perp at first.

Unless someone thinks the local police and coroner are in on it, this matter is settled.

www.thedenverchannel.com/news/newtown-connecticut-shooting/ar15-with-high-capacity-magazines-used-by-adam-lanza-in-sandy-hook-school-shooting

[TSA]

Ok, I'll give you a pass if you stopped following it -- but that is right up there with the 9/11 media conspiracies.

News reports that day were all over the place. Hell, they thought Lanza's brother was the perp at first.

Unless someone thinks the local police and coroner are in on it, this matter is settled.

www.thedenverchannel.com/news/newtown-connecticut-shooting/ar15-with-high-capacity-magazines-used-by-adam-lanza-in-sandy-hook-school-shooting
I seriously haven't followed it at all. So where does the NBC stuff come from? And in that second video it doesn't look at all like an AR that the cop is clearing. I'm just trying to figure it all out.

[ChumpDumper]

I seriously haven't followed it at all. So where does the NBC stuff come from?It comes from the spotty reporting of the first day. I'm more inclined to believe the police and medical examiner after they have collected the evidence and performed the autopsies, given the choice between the two.
And in that second video it doesn't look at all like an AR that the cop is clearing.I don't know to what you are referring, but it really doesn't matter to me. Occam's razor and all that.

[ChumpDumper]

And in that second video it doesn't look at all like an AR that the cop is clearing.OK, you were talking about the second video from your link.

It doesn't look like an AR because it's the shotgun Lanza left in the car. The AR was inside the school with Lanza when he offed himself.

[TSA]

OK, you were talking about the second video from your link.

It doesn't look like an AR because it's the shotgun Lanza left in the car. The AR was inside the school with Lanza when he offed himself.
The webpage you linked me to is from Dec 16th. My link is from January 15th. Are the quotes from NBC false? I'm not into nor do I believe in conspiracy theories, I just find it odd.

[TSA]

What is throwing me off in the article I posted is the (one month ago). Is that quote from one month ago or are they talking about one month ago from the quote?

[ChumpDumper]

The webpage you linked me to is from Dec 16th. My link is from January 15th. Are the quotes from NBC false? I'm not into nor do I believe in conspiracy theories, I just find it odd.The story you linked is from January 15th. The first video in the story is clearly marked "Dec. 15" and there is little doubt the second video is probably from the same day given what they said about Lanza's mother -- she is only presumed dead and they still think she worked at the school. They both definitely took place before the video of the police chief's statement.

[ohmwrecker]

Old news. It makes absolutely no difference what kind of guns that sick fuck used.

[ChumpDumper]

Seriously, this guy calls himself an "associate editor"?

[TSA]

Thanks for clearing it up and not being a dick.

[ChumpDumper]

I wasn't?

[Lincoln]

TSA just being a fuckin dumbass college dropout not understanding what really happened. Learn to fuckin read before you start dumbass threads and post stupid questions.

[TSA]

TSA just being a fuckin dumbass college dropout not understanding what really happened. Learn to fuckin read before you start dumbass threads and post stupid questions.

Holy shit dude your butthurt from me calling out your asking how to ask a girl out really stung I see. How about you wait to chime in on gun talk once you can legally purchase a handgun.

[TSA]

TSA just being a fuckin dumbass college dropout not understanding what really happened. Learn to fuckin read before you start dumbass threads and post stupid questions.

Holy shit dude your butthurt from me calling out your asking how to ask a girl out really stung I see. How about you wait to chime in on gun talk once you can legally purchase a handgun.

[mouse]

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[redzero]

^ lol thinking anybody is watching that bullshit

[Blake]

Seeing the illuminati eye in the youtube screenshot is enough for me to lol mouse.

[McGusto55]

Hoax..didnt even happen...

[mouse]

wrong vid I meant to post this one.


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[ChumpDumper]

Already debunked.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/16/sandy-hook-conspiracy-theory-video-debunked_n_2487427.html

[mouse]

How is it debunked?

That link you posted is only another view on the video in fact one of them is just a hater looks at one of his quotes.




Blaskiewicz added that such a diseased investigative process is almost always guaranteed to fail.

"The only possible answer at the end of that process of investigation is some sort of omnipotent puppet master who controls everything. In this case, it's the government, but it's often Jews, the New World Order, the other political party, the Illuminati, Masons, or even inter-dimensional mind-controlling reptilian space aliens who impersonate political leaders."

What does any of that have to do with finding the truth on what really happened? In fact one of the so called debunkers tried to back pedal.


D.J. Grothe, president of the James Randi Educational Foundation, does note that truthers shouldn't be immediately dismissed as raving lunatics, however.

"Political conspiracy theorists are completely wrong [in their conclusions], but they're not crazy," he told HuffPost. "The leading conspiracy theorists ... are right on many of their initial factual claims. Depending on what the theory is, they might even be correct in all of their claims. Where they are wrong is connecting the dots that aren't there."

The video got 10 million views in 9 days by people who know this government lies to them daily.

[mouse]

How is it debunked?

That link you posted is only another view on the video in fact one of them is just a hater looks at one of his quotes.




Blaskiewicz added that such a diseased investigative process is almost always guaranteed to fail.

"The only possible answer at the end of that process of investigation is some sort of omnipotent puppet master who controls everything. In this case, it's the government, but it's often Jews, the New World Order, the other political party, the Illuminati, Masons, or even inter-dimensional mind-controlling reptilian space aliens who impersonate political leaders."

What does any of that have to do with finding the truth on what really happened? In fact one of the so called debunkers tried to back pedal.


D.J. Grothe, president of the James Randi Educational Foundation, does note that truthers shouldn't be immediately dismissed as raving lunatics, however.

"Political conspiracy theorists are completely wrong [in their conclusions], but they're not crazy," he told HuffPost. "The leading conspiracy theorists ... are right on many of their initial factual claims. Depending on what the theory is, they might even be correct in all of their claims. Where they are wrong is connecting the dots that aren't there."

The video got 10 million views in 9 days by people who know this government lies to them daily.

[ChumpDumper]

I can believe there are 10 million idiots in the world.

Your reading of that theory shows there is one.

[mouse]

You said the same thing about 9/11 and they now have proof of explosive residue.

[ChumpDumper]

You said the same thing about 9/11 and they now have proof of explosive residue.Except they don't.

[mouse]

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[ChumpDumper]

Remember, I'm never watching a YouTube you post again.

You failed.

[mouse]

Remember, I'm never watching a YouTube you post again.

You failed.

That is normally what weak people say when they want to bail in a debate that they are losing in front of others online.

http://blogs.sitepointstatic.com.s3.amazonaws.com/images/business/listen.jpg

I just never expected you to be one of them.



But if this topic Exposed you for the fraud you really are then it's actually a

"Success"

[ChumpDumper]

That is normally what weak people say when they want to bail in a debate that they are losing in front of others online.Nope.

You never read or watched anything I ever posted, so why bother?

lol fraud

[mouse]

Nope.

You never read or watched anything I ever posted, so why bother?

lol fraud

What makes you so sure I never read what you post or watch your misguided videos?

Face it chump you had to have known the time would come when the truth starts to surface.

Just man up and admit you may have been wrong on multiple levels.

The evidence is so against you it's like it's almost as bad as Lance Armstrong on Oprah
I almost kinda feel bad for you but I know you made your bed now you must .....


As for any video or link you have that may give you a glimmer of hope feel free to share it and I will guarantee to exzamine it thoroughly

[ChumpDumper]

What makes you so sure I never read what you post ir watch your misguided videos?Because you would have admitted how wrong you were.


Face it chump you had to have known the time would come when the truth starts to surface.

Just man up and admit you may have been wrong on multiple levels.

The evidence is so against you it's like it's almost as bad as Lance Armstrong on Oprah

I almost feel bad for you but I know you made your bed now you must .....,I'm batting 1.000 so far.



As for any video or link you have that may give you a glimmer of hope feel free to share it and I will guarantee to exzamine it thought.Nope. you had your chance. You blew it.

If your ever state in your own words what you believe actually happened in any of these cases, I might read it. Hasn't happened yet.

[Blake]

That is normally what weak people say when they want to bail in a debate that they are losing in front of others online.


even your trolls know you are the loser.

[mouse]

Because you would have admitted how wrong you were.

So it's only "your" videos that are "always" correct.

Way to show how nonbias you are. That is a very ignorant comment especially when someone line professor Dawkins can admit he doesn't know everything here comes never wrong chump the Ala of knowledge

Hell why not just shut down google and all debates we can just come to the almighty Chump for answers


I'm batting 1.000 so far.

After 10,000 times at bat



Nope. you had your chance. You blew it.


Whaaaa Whaaaa how will I live with myself?



Translation: I have no evidence so let me grab my ball and go home
Pathetic chump a new low....



If your ever state in your own words what you believe actually happened in any of these cases, I might read it. Hasn't happened yet.

I'm sure you know where I stand on your NWO agendas

[DMC]

lol CD arguing with the most well known troll on the forum, relentlessly.

[ChumpDumper]

lol CD arguing with the most well known troll on the forum, relentlessly.lol DMC following me around and commenting on me, relentlessly.

[Spurminator]

I'm batting 1.000 so far.


After 10,000 times at bat


Oooh... burn?

You know that a 1.000 batting average in 10000 at bats is, like, REALLY good right?

[mouse]

Oooh... burn?

You know that a 1.000 batting average in 10000 at bats is, like, REALLY good right?

Not when your on the wrong team.

Chumps debating skills are as bad as this mans acting skills.


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[mouse]

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[mouse]

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[BacktoBasics]

I'm not at all surprised that a low life self absorbed loser like Mouse would trivialize the deaths of those children to get his jollies off on another BS conspiracy theory. What a sick human being you are. This world never has a shortage of guys like you who revel in the need to downplay reality for your pathetic fantasy world of fabricated story lines and self aggrandizing horse shit.

Every year its a new low for you.

[mouse]

I'm not at all surprised that a low life self absorbed loser like Mouse would trivialize the deaths of those children

where is your proof?



to get his jollies off on another BS conspiracy theory.

You think posting the other side of a story is BS?




What a sick human being you are.

Pssssssst! I didn't make the video, and furthermore I never posted I support them.

Look brah just because you haven't sold any trailers this week is no reason to be so arrogant with others.




This world never has a shortage of guys like you who revel in the need to downplay reality for your pathetic fantasy world of fabricated story lines and self aggrandizing horse shit.

Read above

A: I didn't create the video

B: I never said I support the video

C: Your a known mouse hater that automatically disqualifies any intelligent input you think you may have.


Every year its a new low for you.

Oh now you give me props?

[mouse]

On a side note:

Before you climb off your self righteous soap box why not visit the politics forum where wannabee tree huggers like yourself are getting their cyber asses handed to them daily on this very topic.

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=208365&p=6309564#post6309564

[Spurminator]

So you're posting these videos for entertainment value alone, and you do not believe there is any merit to them. Why didn't you just say so?

[BacktoBasics]

So you're posting these videos for entertainment value alone, and you do not believe there is any merit to them. Why didn't you just say so?Exactly. He's in full back peddle now. Either that or he needs to man up and state that he finds the video with merit.

[mouse]

So you're posting these videos for entertainment value alone, and you do not believe there is any merit to them. Why didn't you just say so?


You have no idea why I do what I do and I really have no free time at this moment to try and educate you on what the "other" view on a subject really means.

pssssssst! this isn't China we can can post an opposing view. (or until Obama has his way)

[mouse]

Exactly. He's in full back peddle now. Either that or he needs to man up and state that he finds the video with merit.

You need to put down the pitch fork and go see if any illegals are still camping out at your ranch.

[Spurminator]

You have no idea why I do what I do and I really have no free time at this moment to try and educate you on what the "other" view on a subject really means.

pssssssst! this isn't China we can can post an opposing view. (or until Obama has his way)

:lol I didn't say you couldn't you fucking clod. All I'm doing is acknowledging that you're just posting it for entertainment value, rather than making a statement about what you believe, which is basically what you've said every time someone has asked you to give some kind of opinion. And you're still mad!

[mouse]

you fucking clod.


I like when these young kids here at ST kick they're own ass sometimes. Any further conversation is now just pure entertainment on my part.


All I'm doing is acknowledging that you're just posting it for entertainment value, rather than making a statement about what you believe, which is basically what you've said every time someone has asked you to give some kind of opinion.

and your point?



And you're still mad!


That would imply I was already mad, and I don't see that do you?

post the link that supports your claim.

[Spurminator]

I really have no free time at this moment

I missed this the first time.

:lmao :lmao :lmao x100000

[mouse]

I missed this the first time.

:lmao :lmao :lmao x100000



my posts are like eye opening grenades they go off long after i post them.


http://www.facebook.com/pages/AD-Alternative-Design/121129644726154?skip_nax_wizard=true

[mouse]

I missed this the first time.

:lmao :lmao :lmao x100000

about time you Red-neck-con-nize

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