View Full Version : CBS: Christie: NRA ad on Obama daughters "reprehensible"
FuzzyLumpkins
01-17-2013, 11:26 PM
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-57564623/christie-nra-ad-on-obama-daughters-
New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie says it is "reprehensible" for the National Rifle Association to run an ad bringing President Barack Obama's daughters into the gun-control debate.
The nationally prominent governor on Thursday criticized the ad, which accused the president of being a hypocrite for allowing his daughters to be protected by armed Secret Service agents but not embracing armed guards for schools.
I don't really care about the commercial. What I see in this is that Christie is balling politically especially if he is trying to get the nod in 2016. The GOP will probably be too butthurt to nominate him but with the country starving for nonpartisan politics, Christie is going out of his way to walk the walk.
Lets talk about the commercial. I found it extremely funny, considering it aired the day Obama surrounded himself by children to make his gun control announcement. You can't deny that bringing those children on stage with him was pretty low.
Winehole23
01-18-2013, 03:00 AM
no one has the monopoly on cheap manipulation of sentimentality.
#ThinkOfTheChildren
byrontx
01-18-2013, 08:38 AM
Children got shot. It was a stupid as shit ad. It tells you the NRA is worried about erosion of their base since that ad is not going to appeal to anyone of a moderate mindset.
Leetonidas
01-18-2013, 09:39 AM
I'm so tired of hearing about "the children"
spurs_fan_in_exile
01-18-2013, 09:45 AM
But they're our future. They must be taught well and allowed to lead the way.
coyotes_geek
01-18-2013, 09:47 AM
I'm so tired of hearing about "the children"
Me too. And I even have one.
boutons_deux
01-18-2013, 09:53 AM
the NRA/gun industry propaganda machine concentrating on the slaughter of 20 children by one "mentally ill" shooter deflects from the MUCH LARGER DISASTER of 30K gun deaths/year.
http://www.bloomberg.com/image/i3cs6F7hTHkc.jpg
The NRA supporting "mental illness" bullshit proves absolutely that it's a useless, ineffective tactic and again deflects from the real problem of ineffective regulation and enforcement of gun purchases and ownership.
CosmicCowboy
01-18-2013, 10:28 AM
CBS now reporting it wasn't even an assault rifle.
*edit*
accidentally picked up an undated story from right after the shooting when they were saying it was 4 pistols
spursncowboys
01-18-2013, 10:33 AM
Children got shot. It was a stupid as shit ad. It tells you the NRA is worried about erosion of their base since that ad is not going to appeal to anyone of a moderate mindset.
I think it's a good ad. Doesn't bring up a politician's kids like what they did with Cheney's. Granted she was an adult.
TeyshaBlue
01-18-2013, 10:54 AM
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-57564623/christie-nra-ad-on-obama-daughters-
I don't really care about the commercial. What I see in this is that Christie is balling politically especially if he is trying to get the nod in 2016. The GOP will probably be too butthurt to nominate him but with the country starving for nonpartisan politics, Christie is going out of his way to walk the walk.
This. Center move. It'll pay.
DUNCANownsKOBE
01-18-2013, 11:01 AM
I'd be surprised if Christie makes a serious run at all in 2016. He's never gonna pander to the tea party Jeebotards who wanted to hang New Jersey out to dry after hurricane sandy, the GOP will never forgive him for approving of how Obama handled Sandy, and as dumb as this sounds, he doesn't "look" the part. You can call that shallow/stupid/whatever, but physical stature totally plays a role in presidential elections.
Th'Pusher
01-18-2013, 11:04 AM
I am not so sure America is ready to elect a greaseball as POTUS.
Sportcamper
01-18-2013, 11:17 AM
Lets talk about the commercial. I found it extremely funny, considering it aired the day Obama surrounded himself by children to make his gun control announcement. You can't deny that bringing those children on stage with him was pretty low.
:tu Agreed...
That up there with Diane Feinstein’s photo shoot in San Francisco’s gun rebate back in the 80’s…She had one of her assistants buy an illegal handgun off the street so Dianne could be photographed turning in the gun for 50 bucks…Meanwhile Feinstein’s entourage were carrying Uzis…What a farce...:lol
coyotes_geek
01-18-2013, 11:25 AM
I'd be surprised if Christie makes a serious run at all in 2016. He's never gonna pander to the tea party Jeebotards who wanted to hang New Jersey out to dry after hurricane sandy, the GOP will never forgive him for approving of how Obama handled Sandy, and as dumb as this sounds, he doesn't "look" the part. You can call that shallow/stupid/whatever, but physical stature totally plays a role in presidential elections.
Romney & McCain are pretty good evidence that the Jeebotards don't have the clout to get their guy nominated, so I don't think Christie has to worry about them as far as getting the nomination. But you're right about the physical stature. Christie definitely needs to shed a bunch of weight if he wants to run. If he can drop the weight though, I think he's in great shape, pardon the pun. He's got the perfect topic to talk about on Oprah/Ellen/The View and all the other talk shows housewives watch. American women will eat that shit up.
Th'Pusher
01-18-2013, 11:49 AM
Romney & McCain are pretty good evidence that the Jeebotards don't have the clout to get their guy nominated, so I don't think Christie has to worry about them as far as getting the nomination. But you're right about the physical stature. Christie definitely needs to shed a bunch of weight if he wants to run. If he can drop the weight though, I think he's in great shape, pardon the pun. He's got the perfect topic to talk about on Oprah/Ellen/The View and all the other talk shows housewives watch. American women will eat that shit up.
He'll take the lazy rout and get a lap band.
CBS now reporting it wasn't even an assault rifle.
Care to expand?
DUNCANownsKOBE
01-18-2013, 11:59 AM
Romney & McCain are pretty good evidence that the Jeebotards don't have the clout to get their guy nominated, so I don't think Christie has to worry about them as far as getting the nomination.
Romney and McCain did what was needed to do in order to become acceptable to Jeebotards (and they were both the result of other Jeebotards knocking each other out) by changing whatever their views were on certain issues. They needed to temporarily shed their image of "moderate Repulbican" and did so largely by selling out to the GOP, and I don't see Christie doing that. I think the whole Sandy situation put a bad taste in Christie's mouth about tea party politics and where the GOP is headed and he wants no part of it.
Romney and McCain won their primary largely because of a perfect storm. McCain won because Romney and Huckabee split the far right wing vote . In 2012 Romney basically became the Jeebotard candidate 1) because the other candidates were so bad that people like Koch and Adelson figured out Romney was their only chance at beating Obama and 2) by selling out to Tea Party groups like FreedomWorks that started to feed its shills propaganda about how Romney wanted small government and family values. I don't see Christie abandoning his dignity and personal views the way Romney did to get Tea Party/Jeebotard support. I think he loves New Jersey and the people of New Jersey too much to start pandering to the same people who wanted to cut New Jersey off after Hurricane Sandy.
ChumpDumper
01-18-2013, 01:07 PM
CBS now reporting it wasn't even an assault rifle.lol now wut?
Drachen
01-18-2013, 01:28 PM
Romney and McCain did what was needed to do in order to become acceptable to Jeebotards (and they were both the result of other Jeebotards knocking each other out) by changing whatever their views were on certain issues. They needed to temporarily shed their image of "moderate Repulbican" and did so largely by selling out to the GOP, and I don't see Christie doing that. I think the whole Sandy situation put a bad taste in Christie's mouth about tea party politics and where the GOP is headed and he wants no part of it.
Romney and McCain won their primary largely because of a perfect storm. McCain won because Romney and Huckabee split the far right wing vote . In 2012 Romney basically became the Jeebotard candidate 1) because the other candidates were so bad that people like Koch and Adelson figured out Romney was their only chance at beating Obama and 2) by selling out to Tea Party groups like FreedomWorks that started to feed its shills propaganda about how Romney wanted small government and family values. I don't see Christie abandoning his dignity and personal views the way Romney did to get Tea Party/Jeebotard support. I think he loves New Jersey and the people of New Jersey too much to start pandering to the same people who wanted to cut New Jersey off after Hurricane Sandy.
Romney didn't win because he didn't really want to be president.
ElNono
01-18-2013, 01:35 PM
Christie changed his attitude and tune after getting bitchslapped by Sandy, tbh... He saw firsthand the destruction and helplessness that comes when shit completely out of anybody's control happen, and he finally understood 'government isn't all that bad'. You can see it in him and you can see it in the way he changed his tune. This is a much more center Christie. I agree he needs to work on his looks, tbh.
Th'Pusher
01-18-2013, 01:35 PM
lol now wut?
CC has gone full on conspiracy theorist.
FuzzyLumpkins
01-18-2013, 01:40 PM
America is a bunch of fatties. I am not saying that it won't prohibit him but if ever there is a time when it won't it is this era.
ChumpDumper
01-18-2013, 01:42 PM
Party switch?
FuzzyLumpkins
01-18-2013, 01:45 PM
By Christie?
Only if they kick him out. The GOP is so fractured right now they would be foolish to kick out a guy as popular as Christie right now. They are foolish though.
ChumpDumper
01-18-2013, 01:47 PM
Just a thought that came into my mind. Might be an interesting route to the WH.
FuzzyLumpkins
01-18-2013, 02:26 PM
If it were to happen it would be a major coup for the Democrats. Christie and Ryan were the two GOP golden boys as recently as a year ago. If Christie were to defect it would be a huge blow to the credibility and viability of the GOP.
coyotes_geek
01-18-2013, 02:56 PM
Romney and McCain did what was needed to do in order to become acceptable to Jeebotards (and they were both the result of other Jeebotards knocking each other out) by changing whatever their views were on certain issues. They needed to temporarily shed their image of "moderate Repulbican" and did so largely by selling out to the GOP, and I don't see Christie doing that. I think the whole Sandy situation put a bad taste in Christie's mouth about tea party politics and where the GOP is headed and he wants no part of it.
Romney and McCain won their primary largely because of a perfect storm. McCain won because Romney and Huckabee split the far right wing vote . In 2012 Romney basically became the Jeebotard candidate 1) because the other candidates were so bad that people like Koch and Adelson figured out Romney was their only chance at beating Obama and 2) by selling out to Tea Party groups like FreedomWorks that started to feed its shills propaganda about how Romney wanted small government and family values. I don't see Christie abandoning his dignity and personal views the way Romney did to get Tea Party/Jeebotard support. I think he loves New Jersey and the people of New Jersey too much to start pandering to the same people who wanted to cut New Jersey off after Hurricane Sandy.
Romney and McCain both tried to butter up to the jeebotards, but that was after they had pretty much clinched the nomination. I don't see Christie doing that either, and frankly I think that would help him in the general election because I really think that the jeebotards scare off more poeple than they bring.
cantthinkofanything
01-18-2013, 02:59 PM
CBS now reporting it wasn't even an assault rifle.
this will make it easier to go after semi-auto pistols now.
DarrinS
01-18-2013, 03:05 PM
Using children for political gain is reprehensible
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DUNCANownsKOBE
01-18-2013, 03:06 PM
Romney didn't win because he didn't really want to be president.
blue text?
Drachen
01-18-2013, 03:08 PM
blue text?
Real talk if I am logged in as Tagg
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/12/mitt-romney-didnt-want-to-be-president-son-claims/
ChumpDumper
01-18-2013, 03:09 PM
Darrin pooped himself in outrage.
DarrinS
01-18-2013, 03:10 PM
Darrin points out the hypocrisy of the left -- again.
Thanks
boutons_deux
01-18-2013, 03:11 PM
blue text?
one of his sons actually said that Bishop Gekko, after Barry and the 47% bitch-slapped him, didn't really want to be President, although BG ran for President for almost a decade. Maybe masochism is a Mormon, Inc. virtue?
DUNCANownsKOBE
01-18-2013, 03:14 PM
one of his sons actually said that Bishop Gekko, after Barry and the 47% bitch-slapped him, didn't really want to be President, although BG ran for President for almost a decade. Maybe masochism is a Mormon, Inc. virtue?
I'm aware of that, I asked "blue text" because that report from Tagg was total bullshit. Romney wanted to be president as much as anyone ever has and it was obvious to anyone paying attention to the election.
FuzzyLumpkins
01-18-2013, 03:16 PM
There is a difference between getting a kid and their parents to chime in and some third party speaking about someone else's kids. If you are going to point to hypocrisy at least show the same thing or do kids not have first amendment rights?
ChumpDumper
01-18-2013, 03:20 PM
ThanksShit. the right uses kids whenever they can as well. Don't be even more obtuse.
DarrinS
01-18-2013, 03:21 PM
There is a difference between getting a kid and their parents to chime in and some third party speaking about someone else's kids. If you are going to point to hypocrisy at least show the same thing or do kids not have first amendment rights?
Yep, those kids probably begged their parents to write those letters. Probably begged to put on suit and tie as well. :rolleyes
DarrinS
01-18-2013, 03:22 PM
Shit. the right uses kids whenever they can as well. Don't be even more obtuse.
I have no doubt they do.
ChumpDumper
01-18-2013, 03:25 PM
Good to know toddlers are home schooled Dylan Thomas.
http://mediamatters.org/static/images/item/huffpo-2009-teapartykid2.jpg
FuzzyLumpkins
01-18-2013, 03:29 PM
Yep, those kids probably begged their parents to write those letters. Probably begged to put on suit and tie as well. :rolleyes
Sure and I imagine they eat cereal in the morning too. There is a difference between getting your kids to do something and talking about someone else's kids. All parents indoctrinate their children else their wouldn't be religion. It's as American as apple pie.
Drachen
01-18-2013, 03:32 PM
I'm aware of that, I asked "blue text" because that report from Tagg was total bullshit. Romney wanted to be president as much as anyone ever has and it was obvious to anyone paying attention to the election.
yeah, blue text. LOL.
CosmicCowboy
01-18-2013, 04:19 PM
I edited
accidentally picked up an undated report from right after the shooting.
apoloigies all around.
spursncowboys
01-18-2013, 05:56 PM
Christie changed his attitude and tune after getting bitchslapped by Sandy, tbh... He saw firsthand the destruction and helplessness that comes when shit completely out of anybody's control happen, and he finally understood 'government isn't all that bad'. You can see it in him and you can see it in the way he changed his tune. This is a much more center Christie. I agree he needs to work on his looks, tbh.
Yeah I'm pretty sure Christie was an anarchist. But yeah, 'Give my state money, regardless of all the pork in the bill' was definitely a different tune of fiscal conservative he preached. In his defense he felt that katrina funding was the new precedent and all he wanted was that amount. Even though that was an amount that Harry Reid came up with with no data or facts to base it on.
ElNono
01-18-2013, 06:23 PM
Yeah I'm pretty sure Christie was an anarchist. But yeah, 'Give my state money, regardless of all the pork in the bill' was definitely a different tune of fiscal conservative he preached. In his defense he felt that katrina funding was the new precedent and all he wanted was that amount. Even though that was an amount that Harry Reid came up with with no data or facts to base it on.
I'm talking even before the disaster relief bill drama, tbh... Sandy really humbled him. To his credit he went everywhere in the state and not just for the photo op, but also to inform himself and bring support to people. He used to be this confrontational asshole and had that narrative that some people only want, want, want... and he stopped with that narrative. I think he realized that sometimes people want help for legitimate reasons.
DUNCANownsKOBE
01-18-2013, 06:26 PM
:lol criticizing the use of kids
In the 2008 RNC, Sarah Palin had her mongoloid baby passed around like a party favor to make sure the fact she was the mother of a retard was known.
TeyshaBlue
01-18-2013, 06:33 PM
"They did it first!" was not a compelling defense in the 3rd grade. Not sure it's any better now.
spursncowboys
01-18-2013, 06:36 PM
I'm talking even before the disaster relief bill drama, tbh... Sandy really humbled him. To his credit he went everywhere in the state and not just for the photo op, but also to inform himself and bring support to people. He used to be this confrontational asshole and had that narrative that some people only want, want, want... and he stopped with that narrative. I think he realized that sometimes people want help for legitimate reasons.
On Morning Joe, they were all talking about how from day one, he was a terrible politician. People that work talk about how he does things because "it's the right thing to do". Clearly "right" is in his POV but he doesn't divide the state up into districts that will reelect him, etc. The Mayor for Newark loves him even though they couldn't be farther apart politically.
DUNCANownsKOBE
01-18-2013, 07:06 PM
"They did it first!" was not a compelling defense in the 3rd grade. Not sure it's any better now.
I wasn't saying they did it first. I'm saying both political parties whore kids and have been doing so for as long as I can remember.
I was also taking the opportunity to make fun of that mongoloid who climbed out of Sarah Palin's inbred filth.
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