Lakers vs Raptors 01/20

[StrengthAndHonor]

Wow, a win today will put the Lakers just a game and a half back from the 8th spot. Congrats guys, you're almost there. :lol

[NRHector]

Wow, a win today will put the Lakers just a game and a half back from the 8th spot. Congrats guys, you're almost there. :lol

that's wrong :nope

[HarlemHeat37]

I'll be at the game..

Raptors usually keep it close vs. LA during 1pm games, only to lose in clutch time..

[InRareForm]

HH, The vegas line predicts that perfectly.. as they are 5 point favorites.

[NRHector]

Lakers better get their shit together or is going to be a blow out

[Raven]

OMFG!!! i can't even begin to explain how awful the lakers are looking right now. the first 6 minutes of the game have been hilarious.

[NRHector]

4 - 19 :lol

[Texas_Ranger]

wtf... Lakers look like last year Bobcats. But tbh they will probably come back. :/

[Raven]

19-4 :lmao
Kobe gettin eaten alive by calderon on both offense and defense :lmao
Kobe missing free shots :lmao
Rebounding :lmao

[Raven]

I'll be at the game..

Raptors usually keep it close vs. LA during 1pm games, only to lose in clutch time..

man you must be enjoing it badly...

[Mal]

That was travel !!

[HarlemHeat37]

Didn't end up going, my man took a girl instead:lol..

[Raven]

Aron freaking Gray humiliating both d12 and kobe :lmao

[ElNono]

Nash looks like he's having fun though

[Raven]

Didn't end up going, my man took a girl instead:lol..

noooooo too bad :lol

[Jodelo]

So Nash can't even guard Calderon? So they stick him on Fields from the start? :lmao

[NRHector]

was that a flop by Gasol?

[Mal]

1-7 Discuss

[Jodelo]

Refs put in work already...

[irishock]

are the Raptors seriously going to win this one

[irishock]

:lol Duhon preserving his FG%. Hes been doing that his entire career and his stats are still brutal :lmao

[NRHector]

are the Raptors seriously going to win this one

of course not, the Lakers have the refs to bail them out

[Raven]

1-7 Discuss

he decided that was the best way to get his mates going

[Sportstudi]

are the Raptors seriously going to win this one

Nah, the refs will give LA the parade to the charity stripe...

[Sportstudi]

lol, and gasol screaming again like getting shot... this guy is just ridiculous.

[NRHector]

lol, and gasol screaming again like getting shot... this guy is just ridiculous.

tell me who isn't ridiculous on that Laker team

[StrengthAndHonor]

I hope the Raptors win for the major LULZ. I mean seriously, PLEASE! This will make my Sunday lol

[Sportstudi]

tell me who isn't ridiculous on that Laker team

true, my bad :lol

[Clipper Nation]

:lmao Lakers

Toronto will definitely switch into tank mode and give this win to them, but this is still embarrassing :lol

[irishock]

:lmao Lakers

Toronto will definitely switch into tank mode and give this win to them, but this is still embarrassing :lol

OKC has Toronto's pick

[HarlemHeat37]

Lakers will cut the deficit to 5-8 at halftime, they will tie it up and take a small lead by the end of the 3rd/start of the 4th..Raptors will make a run and take the lead with a few mins remaining in the game..refs will make egregiously bad calls against the Raps down the stretch, Kobe will make a clutch shot, Lakers win..

[NRHector]

Lakers will cut the deficit to 5-8 at halftime, they will tie it up and take a small lead by the end of the 3rd/start of the 4th..Raptors will make a run and take the lead with a few mins remaining in the game..refs will make egregiously bad calls against the Raps down the stretch, Kobe will make a clutch shot, Lakers win..

seem like a deja vue

[Sportstudi]

OKC has Toronto's pick

by which trade?

[Raven]

"let's see lakers ball movement now" and nash goes for the iso..

[dave]

by which trade?

Toronto traded it to Houston for Lowry, who then traded it for James Harden

[Raven]

by which trade?

Harden

[HarlemHeat37]

by which trade?

Raptors only keep their pick if it's in the top 3..

[Raven]

OKC has Toronto's pick

it's actually top 3 protected.

[irishock]

by which trade?

Toronto 1st to Houston for Lowry, Toronto 1st from Houston to OKC for Harden

[HarlemHeat37]

Raps won't be worse than Cleveland, Charlotte and Phoenix, and the lottery balls will aid OKC regardless, tbh..

:lol Colangelo..

[Raven]

tbh the score doesn't tell the story of how bad are the lakers actually looking.. Their TO have not been bad, they have been completely bonehead.

[StrengthAndHonor]

I think Nash has a bigger chance of making a defensive stop than Kobe hitting a game winner tbh.

[Texas_Ranger]

Earl Clark >>>>> Dwight, Gasol

[Sportstudi]

lol dwight :lol

[Clipper Nation]

There goes the Raptors' lead.... :lol $100+ million team having to be handed a win by a lottery team

[Raven]

d12 out in the second already :lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

[DPG21920]

:lol Dwight

[NRHector]

Howard ejected :lol

[Clipper Nation]

:lmao Bible Kemp

[Sportstudi]

I'm just waiting for LG to explode and screaming for conspiracy against the Lakers again :lol

[HarlemHeat37]

Not a 5-point lead, but close enough:lol..

[irishock]

:lol Bible gets himself ejected just as the game gets close

[apalisoc_9]

Raptors better win this shit...

[midnightpulp]

Lol Dwight. Might be a blessing in disguise for the Lakers, though. Watch how smooth their offense is going to look now with Gasol at center, Artest at pf, and Clark at sf.

Sure, horrible defensive lineup, but the Raps can't score for shit anyway.

Lakers win this game by 8-15 points.

[timvp]

Come on guys. Someone help out Kobe. It's not fair that he actually has to play defense now in addition to offense :cry

[JingleJangleJingle]

dammit why do the rockets and blazers have to suck.

[Ghazi]

Raptors arent that bad without bargnani. Given the lakers are a mediocre team themselves this wouldnt even be a bad loss for them

[Sportstudi]

lol, after the first attempt pau actually missed he screamed again "and one"! what a tard :lol

[Clipper Nation]

dammit why do the rockets and blazers have to suck.
Stern put in the orders to get the Lakers into the playoffs :lol

[HarlemHeat37]

I've never seen Calderon play so effectively off the dribble:lolNash..

[Raven]

Kobe tryin hard to get his shooting avg on par with the rest of his career

[bluebellmaniac]

3-14

[Clipper Nation]

3-14
Good lord, Kobrick is trash.... he'll make some law-of-averages BS at the end though to pad his stats and keep his clutch myth alive....

[StrengthAndHonor]

Dwight's gone next year. He absolutely despise playing with this team :lol. I remember when Don Nelson would purposely try got ejected with the Mavs team.

[Arcadian]

:lol kobe 4/15

[smaka]

I'm collecting bets on Kobe's shooting today :lol

[HarlemHeat37]

Criticize Howard all you want, but anchoring a defense with Nash, Kobe, Gasol, Jamison and D'Antoni at coach must be physically and mentally exhausting..

[NRHector]

I'm collecting bets on Kobe's shooting today :lol

10-25

[Juggity]

:lol close to getting blown out by the raptors. How low can this team sink?

[irishock]

:lol Landry Fields and Anderson killing the Lakeshow

[Sportstudi]

Look for Kobe trying to play heroball/statpadding in the 4th. I'm looking for a final line of 8-27 or something like that :lol

[smaka]

9-31 my take

[LeBald Crabs]

Kobe tryin hard to get his shooting avg on par with the rest of his career

Why don't you Janša-loving faggot shut the fuck up already? Leave basketball and go defend your Pope-sucking mafia boss on The Economist forum. When you're done, go and fuck your mother some more, you catholic piece of shit.

[Clipper Nation]

Criticize Howard all you want, but anchoring a defense with Nash, Kobe, Gasol, Jamison and D'Antoni at coach must be physically and mentally exhausting..
:lol Bible Kemp is so dumb, breathing must be mentally exhausting for him...

[Sportstudi]

5/20 and 5 TO by the end of the 3rd

[ElNono]

I'm calling Kobe will heat up and finish with a respectable (for him) 10-29...

[Banzai]

a stellar 3-14...fakeshow sucks dick..no playoffs..gasol with a vagina..grandpa nash....peppermint pringles

[HarlemHeat37]

Wow, what a terrible decision by the ref..

Raptors had a 3-0 fast break:lol..

[Juggity]

That was fast



Q4
11:43
http://www.nba.com/csl/kobe_bryant.jpg
KOBE BRYANT
#24 G
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Bryant Technical


Q4
11:43
http://www.nba.com/csl/kobe_bryant.jpg
KOBE BRYANT
#24 G
http://www.nba.com/tvc/image/assets/minilogos/LAL.jpg
Bryant Turnover : Lost Ball (6 TO) Steal:Lowry (2 ST)

[ElNono]

a stellar 3-14...fakeshow sucks dick..no playoffs..gasol with a vagina..grandpa nash....peppermint pringles

how bout dwight? :lol

[StrengthAndHonor]

Raptors sharing the ball, Kobe playing 1 on 5. Story of the game.

[ElNono]

:lol D'Antoni still running Jamison
:lol thinking he stretchs the floor

[ElNono]

now we need Amir Johnson ejected for doing something dumb

[irishock]

:lmao Lowry

[Juggity]

:lol Lowry shitting allll over the lakers

[ElNono]

:lmao getting creamed by a fat PG
:lmao Lakers

[Sportstudi]

:lol D'Antoni still running Jamison
:lol thinking he stretchs the floor

pringles :lol

[Josepatches_]

6-22

[DPG21920]

Since Lowry was moved to the bench because of injuries he's turned into a much more patient player. He looks to distribute mostly but then turns into a quick scoring machine, especially in the fourth lately.

[Juggity]

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When a player goes 6 for 20 and keeps firing away it is not that player's fault. It is the organization's and coach's fault. They are supposed to be the adults in the room.





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[smaka]

6-24 :lol

[Mal]

Gasol really really cared about stopping this dude.

[StrengthAndHonor]

No biggie. Lakers real season starts Monday anyway. Technically, this is part of their in season adjustments.

[Juggity]

6-24 :lol

As it was foretold in legend

[Sportstudi]

6-24 again :lmao

[Josepatches_]

Garbage time. Now Kobe will get his 30 pts

[smaka]

As it was foretold in legend

Have we seen this before? :lol

[Clipper Nation]

Kirby playing like it's Game 7 of the Finals :lol

[quentin_compson]

What an abomination of a game by the Lakers. No ball movement, no movement off the ball, no defensive concept whatsoever ...

[Warlord23]

:lol Letting the Raptors shoot 56% from the field

[Mal]

Why are Lakers starters stiil in, since they have b2b tomorrow ?

[irishock]

Kobe

[Mal]

Kobe, so clutch

[ffadicted]

Did something happen to dwight, what's wth the PT?

[irishock]

Catching fire now.

[Clipper Nation]

Why are Lakers starters stiil in, since they have b2b tomorrow ?
Because Pringles has no clue how to manage players' minutes :lol

[irishock]

Expect officials to tighten up on the Raps now

[Mal]

Did something happen to dwight, what's wth the PT?


He was ejected :lmao

[smaka]

Kirby mad.

[Clipper Nation]

Kirby with his law-of-averages bullshit....

[Mal]

Because Pringles has no clue how to manage players' minutes :lol

I really didnt suppose to get answer, but thanks :)

[ffadicted]

oh double T lol

[Clipper Nation]

Raptors trying to switch into tank mode now, a little to late for that, tbh....

[Raven]

Why don't you Janša-loving faggot shut the fuck up already? Leave basketball and go defend your Pope-sucking mafia boss on The Economist forum. When you're done, go and fuck your mother some more, you catholic piece of shit.

:lol

[noob cake]

Neither team has a first round pick.

No tanking for Kobe.

No tanking for Raptors.

[StrengthAndHonor]

Lakers must cut the lead to at least 4 points for that ever important moral victory on coming from behind and almost winning the game on the road. :lol

[NRHector]

Raptors just need to kill the clock and will win this game

[Clipper Nation]

Neither team has a first round pick.

No tanking for Kobe.

No tanking for Raptors.
The Raps' pick is protected....

[irishock]

lmao Raps

[Mal]

Lol craptors

[noob cake]

The Raps' pick is protected....

Top 3 is barely any protection

[ElNono]

:lol Kobe 'guarding' Calderon

[NRHector]

that's game :lol

[noob cake]

kirby heating up

[HarlemHeat37]

:lol Terrible call against Nash, tbh..

[Clipper Nation]

More "clutch" law-of-averages stat-padding from Kirby....

[ElNono]

:cry

[NRHector]

Nash should get a tech for delay of game

[Mal]

Great. Lakers are giving full effort when game is lost, and anther one is tomorrow. Attaboy pringy.

[ElNono]

somebody needs to explain to D'Antoni that if his team played a semblance of defense, he wouldn't need to rely on a crucial call with 1 min to go

[timvp]

Kobe with his end of blowout three-point show per par.

[capek]

Pringles seems miffed :lol

[ElNono]

:lmao airball

[Sportstudi]

lol airball :lol

[Mal]

Refs screw Lakers right now ! Another moral victory

[noob cake]

Kirby with 9/30 on 30% shooting. Let's see if he will chuck up one more.

[Mal]

Nash is taking the ball away from Kirby. He wants to lose ! He bet on Raptors !

[Clipper Nation]

:lol Lakers statpadding their way to a moral victory per par

[smaka]

C'mon Kirby, choke another shot :lol

[whitemamba]

Jesus kobe...

[Mal]

Lakers will foul when missed

[irishock]

Lol nice call. 9-31

[Mal]

:lmao

[irishock]

9-31 my take

[Mal]

Stat padding

[noob cake]

10/31

Gotta take that last shot down 9.

Stat padding

[Clipper Nation]

:lmao Lakers

[smaka]

9-31 my take

Damn, I was so close :toast:hat

[irishock]

lalakersfan88 wrote:


pau had a huge game. maybe dwight is the problem with the lakers.

i would rather trade dwight for two or three excellent pieces.

dwight for ryan anderson, and others would be great.

[Warlord23]

:lol shittiest defense in the league
:lol Kirby playing 43 minutes and chucking up 30 shots
:lol Bible Kemp bailing early on this eyesore
:lol 5-13 record on the road
:lol lakersground going apeshit
:lol Lakers

[irishock]

lakersgirl wrote:




romanaztec wrote:


Kobe: 9-29 with 6 Turnovers




Pau is the reason the Lakers will lose this game though





:lmao

[Mal]

lalakersfan88 wrote:


pau had a huge game. maybe dwight is the problem with the lakers.

i would rather trade dwight for two or three excellent pieces.

dwight for ryan anderson, and others would be great.



Yeah ! Ryan Anderson, Vasquez and Davis for Dwight. Do it Mitch

[irishock]

THE 2009 TITLE IS OURS!!!

THE 2010 TITLE IS OURS!!!

THE 2013 TITLE IS NEXT!!!


:lmao

[capek]

:lol FTL

[Splits]

Kirbs: 10/32
Rest of team: 28/56

:lol

[Mal]

Kirbs: 10/32
Rest of team: 28/56

:lol

If they shot 35/56 Lakers would win. So whose fault it is ?

[Arcadian]

:lol Howard. Scored 5 points, got ejected. Faggot. Gasol > Howard

:lol kobe 10/32

:lol lakers

[Stalin]

omg 10-32, 3-12 from three, 6 TO, against the raptors, needing 32 shots to get 26 points, classic kobe stat line, tbh

[StrengthAndHonor]

Raptors are very good at choking games (its documented) and Lakers can't even win it. Season is done for them. Memphis, Bulls, Jazz and OKC are up next.

[NRHector]

Fucking Lakers can even get a moral victory anymore

[thunderup]

Raptors are very good at choking games (its documented) and Lakers can't even win it. Season is done for them. Memphis, Bulls, Jazz and OKC are up next.
I legitimately feel sorry for the Lakers.

[Sportstudi]

I legitimately feel sorry for the Lakers.

I don't.

[ElNono]

http://i.imgur.com/17Zf0.gif

[Splits]

I legitimately feel sorry for the Lakers.

Never. This is the 5th greatest NBA season in history. If a $100m payroll misses the playoffs in a league where half the teams get in, it will be the greatest team sport disaster in all of sports history. I want this season to never end.

[Mal]

I legitimately feel sorry for the Lakers.

Lol why ? They deserve all of this.

[NRHector]

I legitimately feel sorry for the Lakers.

why? are you Naruto lover?

[Clipper Nation]

I legitimately feel sorry for the Lakers.

And the truth comes out... Thunderfaggot is really a Lakerfaggot :lol

[thunderup]

Well I feel sorry for them and their fanbase because of expectations. This season is shaping up to be one of the most disappointing for that franchise. I kind of understand the sentiment of Spurfan in that the Lakers have been a thorn on the side of the sock year after year. As a Thunder fan, I really don't feel like that, after all we got our revenge last year for that one playoff series back 10.

[whitemamba]

Lakers suck tbh, no way to sugar coat that shit

[StrengthAndHonor]

I don't want them to miss the playoffs. I want to see familar faces in April. Im gonna lie if I say I want the Jazz or Houston to make it. Plus there is so much gratification if they lose against your team in the postseason. But if you want them to feel total embarassment, then yeah a $100 million dollar team missing the playoffs would be the one of the most hilarious thing in sports history.

[thunderup]

And the truth comes out... Thunderfaggot is really a Lakerfaggot :lol
Clipper/Heat/Spur fan with the immediate inaccurate bads.

[NRHector]

Lakers suck tbh, no way to sugar coat that shit

but you did back in the summer

[Sportstudi]

Well I feel sorry for them and their fanbase because of expectations. This season is shaping up to be one of the most disappointing for that franchise. I kind of understand the sentiment of Spurfan in that the Lakers have been a thorn on the side of the sock year after year. As a Thunder fan, I really don't feel like that, after all we got our revenge last year for that one playoff series back 10.

I can't feel sorry for a bunch of delusional idiots like at Lakersground. Sure, every fan base has its homers, but those faggots over there make it impossible for me to feel sorry in any way.

[Clipper Nation]

Well I feel sorry for them and their fanbase because of expectations.
I don't.... they delusionally hyped up those expectations themselves, guaranteeing to everyone else that there was no way they weren't winning 70+ games and the championship..... I don't feel bad at all that the most delusional, spoiled fanbase in sports is getting a much-needed reality check...


I don't want them to miss the playoffs. I want to see familar faces in April.
Fuck "familiar faces," that shit is boring, time for some new teams.... Houston or Utah would probably put up more of a fight in the playoffs than the Lakers anyway....

[thunderup]

I can't feel sorry for a bunch of delusional idiots like at Lakersground. Sure, every fan base has its homers, but those faggots over there make it impossible for me to feel sorry in any way.
:lmao yeah the times I've ventured into that forum, I read nothing but Clipper Nation-esque homer bads. Makes one despise the franchise more.

[whitemamba]

but you did back in the summer

How could you not tbh. best team on paper.. Too bad

[ElNono]

How could you not tbh. best team on paper.. Too bad

You could tell it was a bunch of names with subpar coaching. When I said back then the Clippers and Thunder were more talented, I was laughed at... well well well

[whitemamba]

I don't.... they delusionally hyped up those expectations themselves, guaranteeing to everyone else that there was no way they weren't winning 70+ games and the championship..... I don't feel bad at all that the most delusional, spoiled fanbase in sports is getting a much-needed reality check...


Chill the only person that said 70 was artest

[Clipper Nation]

How could you not tbh. best team on paper.. Too bad

Tbh, anyone could see the lack of a bench and the problem with Kobe and Nash on the same team from a mile away...

[NRHector]

How could you not tbh. best team on paper.. Too bad

chemistry > $1000000000000000000000000000000000000000

[whitemamba]

You could tell it was a bunch of names with subpar coaching. When I said back then the Clippers and Thunder were more talented, I was laughed at... well well well

In the FO's defense both coaches had solid winning percentages and have gone pretty deep on the playoffs a few times. So on paper the coaches weren't bad. Team is just got working tbh, kobe shooting too much .. Offense isn't running through Nash enough. Dwight 5 shots? Wtf lolz

[whitemamba]

Tbh, anyone could see the lack of a bench and the problem with Kobe and Nash on the same team from a mile away...

also bench on paper wasnt that bad.. Jamison 19ppg on career, Jordan hill solid, Jodie Meeks 3 pt specialist
it didn't seem that bad.


chemistry > $1000000000000000000000000000000000000000

:depressed

[ElNono]

In the FO's defense both coaches had solid winning percentages and have gone pretty deep on the playoffs a few times. So on paper the coaches weren't bad. Team is just got working tbh, kobe shooting too much .. Offense isn't running through Nash enough. Dwight 5 shots? Wtf lolz

On the other hand, the warning lights should've come off when D'Antoni was fired for sucking in New York, and that team playing beast ball with a new coach.

Also, any team with Nash is suspect. Especially the last 3 years version of Nash. Not that his numbers aren't shinny, but he gives back a lot of what he produces. Old team. Gasol checked out. Too many red flags, IMO.

[whitemamba]

On the other hand, the warning lights should've come off when D'Antoni was fired for sucking in New York, and that team playing beast ball with a new coach.

Also, any team with Nash is suspect. Especially the last 3 years version of Nash. Not that his numbers aren't shinny, but he gives back a lot of what he produces. Old team. Gasol checked out. Too many red flags, IMO.

He apparently was let go in New York because he is stubborn and Carmelo didn't work with his system.
not because he is a bad coach. His system works when the players want to make it work IMHO.

old I agree tbh

[NRHector]

He apparently was let go in New York because he is stubborn and Carmelo didn't work with his system.
not because he is a bad coach. His system works when the players want to make it work IMHO.

old I agree tbh

D'Antoni doesn't have the right players for his system in LA

[whitemamba]

D'Antoni doesn't have the right players for his system in LA

well see what Mitch comes up with.

[Richie]

In the FO's defense both coaches had solid winning percentages and have gone pretty deep on the playoffs a few times. So on paper the coaches weren't bad. Team is just got working tbh, kobe shooting too much .. Offense isn't running through Nash enough. Dwight 5 shots? Wtf lolz

At least Mike Brown was a legit defensive coach. People focused on the Princeton offense but that was never the Lakers problem, it was always the defense which Dantoni would never fix.

Terrible appointment.

[midnightpulp]

How could you not tbh. best team on paper.. Too bad

Only a fuckin' idiot (like you) would think Dwight Howard (an overrated monkey with no post game), a 60 year old Steve Nash, a declining Gasol, and an aging Kobe, surrounded by zero depth, youth, and athleticism would be the best team on paper. I told every single one of you morons sucking Mitch's dick how the Lakers didn't improve over the off-season, but you had too much of Mitch's semen in your eyes to see the truth.

[midnightpulp]

well see what Mitch comes up with.

Something shitty, like usual?

[whitemamba]

Only a fuckin' idiot (like you) would think Dwight Howard (an overrated monkey with no post game), a 60 year old Steve Nash, a declining Gasol, and an aging Kobe, surrounded by zero depth, youth, and athleticism would be the best team on paper. I told every single one of you morons sucking Mitch's dick how the Lakers didn't improve over the off-season, but you had too much of Mitch's semen in your eyes to see the truth.

:downspin:You happy bro?

[whitemamba]

Something shitty, like usual?

How many rings have has Mitch help bring since 2000? Remind me

[whitemamba]

Seems like you just started watching the nba this season, or you have so much hate for the lakers success over the past decade that the ass pain still hasn't left you.

[StrengthAndHonor]

In the FO's defense both coaches had solid winning percentages and have gone pretty deep on the playoffs a few times. So on paper the coaches weren't bad. Team is just got working tbh, kobe shooting too much .. Offense isn't running through Nash enough. Dwight 5 shots? Wtf lolz

Theres just too much Kobe going on for that team. He's just the biggest reason why they suck. And Nash gets part of the blame too. He's way too passive. And I don't understand why thw Lakers do not run this play.

Post up your big man and if the double team comes, have them pass the ball out of the double to either Nash, Kobe or Meeks beyond the arc. They are too good of a team to not realize this.

[whitemamba]

Theres just too much Kobe going on for that team. He's just the biggest reason why they suck. And Nash gets part of the blame too. He's way too passive. And I don't understand why thw Lakers do not run this play.

Post up your big man and if the double team comes, have them pass the ball out of the double to either Nash, Kobe or Meeks beyond the arc. They are too good of a team to not realize this.


Good points tbh.. But Antoni had a "system" that he is too stubborn to adjust.

[midnightpulp]

How many rings have has Mitch help bring since 2000? Remind me

Jerry West built the 3 peat Lakers. He signed Shaq, drafted Fisher, Devean George, and Kobe. What did Mitch do beside stand around with that retarded, mongoloid look on his face?

Post-Shaq, he was stumbling over himself trying to put together a decent team, until the teacher bailed out his dumbass with the most lopsided, fixed trade in NBA history.

[StrengthAndHonor]

Post-Shaq, he was stumbling over himself trying to put together a decent team, until the teacher bailed out his dumbass with the most lopsided, fixed trade in NBA history.

The teacher wasn't part of the Grizzlies anymore when the trade went down.

[midnightpulp]

West also signed Robert Horry, Rick Fox, and maybe most importantly, brought in Phil Jackson.

[whitemamba]

Jerry West built the 3 peat Lakers. He signed Shaq, drafted Fisher, Devean George, and Kobe. What did Mitch do beside stand around with that retarded, mongoloid look on his face?

Post-Shaq, he was stumbling over himself trying to put together a decent team, until the teacher bailed out his dumbass with the most lopsided, fixed trade in NBA history.

way to evade the question..ok so you must of forgotten about 2008-2010.. 3 straight finals , 2 championships..

dude u must be fucking delusional.. lopsided? fixed? jerry west handed over the reigns at that time.. so thanks to mitch bringing in ariza/artest and pau at his prime. but the end result was success so idk wtf ur argument is.

[Richie]

Only a fuckin' idiot (like you) would think Dwight Howard (an overrated monkey with no post game), a 60 year old Steve Nash, a declining Gasol, and an aging Kobe, surrounded by zero depth, youth, and athleticism would be the best team on paper. I told every single one of you morons sucking Mitch's dick how the Lakers didn't improve over the off-season, but you had too much of Mitch's semen in your eyes to see the truth.

Seriously? In terms of talent, this Lakers team is easily a top 5 in the league. Kobe, Dwight, Nash and Gasol are all still top tier players, if pop was coaching this team they would be at least level with Memphis. Sadly, the coaching problem isn't all D'antoni, Kobe has to take significant blame. If you won't respect Phil Jackson (with 9 rings when his book was written) then you really ate uncoachable.

[whitemamba]

Seriously? In terms of talent, this Lakers team is easily a top 5 in the league. Kobe, Dwight, Nash and Gasol are all still top tier players, if pop was coaching this team they would be at least level with Memphis. Sadly, the coaching problem isn't all D'antoni, Kobe has to take significant blame. If you won't respect Phil Jackson (with 9 rings when his book was written) then you really ate uncoachable.

good points.

[ElNono]

He apparently was let go in New York because he is stubborn and Carmelo didn't work with his system.
not because he is a bad coach. His system works when the players want to make it work IMHO.

He was fired because the Knicks underachieved as hell, as seen this season under a new coach that preaches defense. You can't tell me with a straight face that you just found out D'Antoni and defense never met.

He had two losing seasons in New York, and the third was 42-40 before getting swept by Boston. Not sure how that can be considered successful.

His 'system' never won anything *because* defense is an afterthought... truth be told, his 'system' has always been riding Nash in the prime of his career.

[NRHector]

Theres just too much Kobe going on for that team. He's just the biggest reason why they suck. And Nash gets part of the blame too. He's way too passive. And I don't understand why thw Lakers do not run this play.

Post up your big man and if the double team comes, have them pass the ball out of the double to either Nash, Kobe or Meeks beyond the arc. They are too good of a team to not realize this.

sounds easy but, is not, not with this team

[whitemamba]

He was fired because the Knicks underachieved as hell, as seen this season under a new coach that preaches defense. You can't tell me with a straight face that you just found out D'Antoni and defense never met.

He had two losing seasons in New York, and the third was 42-40 before getting swept by Boston. Not sure how that can be considered successful.

His 'system' never won anything *because* defense is an afterthought... truth be told, his 'system' has always been riding Nash in the prime of his career.

yeah but at the time the team was still figuring out hot to mesh no? the whole carmelo and amare saga... not that im defending him but you are looking only at the 2 now 3 losing seasons... when he was at phoenix his dick was getting sucked on a daily basis. when he left the suns, everyone was looking to hire him.
he was very successful with the sons, but maybe your right maybe he just rode nash during his prime,

[midnightpulp]

Seriously? In terms of talent, this Lakers team is easily a top 5 in the league. Kobe, Dwight, Nash and Gasol are all still top tier players, if pop was coaching this team they would be at least level with Memphis. Sadly, the coaching problem isn't all D'antoni, Kobe has to take significant blame. If you won't respect Phil Jackson (with 9 rings when his book was written) then you really ate uncoachable.

Disagree they're still top tier players. They also have no depth and athleticism, two crucial components any contending team needs to have in the modern NBA.

[Mugen]

Funny how quickly the Kobe guarding the opposing PG experiment ended when they actually ran his ass through some screens.

:lol Calderon lighting up the mamba for 22 & 9

[whitemamba]

Disagree they're still top tier players. They also have no depth and athleticism, two crucial components any contending team needs to have in the modern NBA.


when the lakers were winning give me some notable "deep" bench players we had besides LO. and name all the super athletes besides shannon brown..

[midnightpulp]

when the lakers were winning give me some notable "deep" bench players we had besides LO. and name all the super athletes besides shannon brown..

NBA's changed a lot in the last couple of years.

[whitemamba]

NBA's changed a lot in the last couple of years.

:lol

[ElNono]

yeah but at the time the team was still figuring out hot to mesh no? the whole carmelo and amare saga... not that im defending him but you are looking only at the 2 now 3 losing seasons... when he was at phoenix his dick was getting sucked on a daily basis. when he left the suns, everyone was looking to hire him.
he was very successful with the sons, but maybe your right maybe he just rode nash during his prime,

His claim to glory was playing Don Nelson ball on a big man league, but if you look closely he started with that when Nash joined the ballclub in 2004-2005. The whole 'only Nash can run my system' is suspect as hell. And he was saying that even this season when he joined and Nash was still out.

[whitemamba]

His claim to glory was playing Don Nelson ball on a big man league, but if you look closely he started with that when Nash joined the ballclub in 2004-2005. The whole 'only Nash can run my system' is suspect as hell. And he was saying that even this season when he joined and Nash was still out.


hes probably worried tbh. thats why.

[midnightpulp]

:lol

You're pretty fuckin' stupid (more than I previously thought, which would put you on the level of a Down Syndrome sufferer) if you don't see how the NBA has become faster and more perimeter oriented, with a heavy reliance on spacing and penetration.

[StrengthAndHonor]

sounds easy but, is not, not with this team

They dont need to run this the whole game coz Dwight ain't exactly Hakeem when passing out of the double team but ive seen them do this with great success from time to time, normally in the 4th when they're making a moral victory run. Its usually Nash draining this 3 and it works everytime. They'll have the same set but they'll completely forget this was actually an option and settles for a MWP or Bryant jumper. Mind boggling.

[NRHector]

They dont need to run this the whole game coz Dwight ain't exactly Hakeem when passing out of the double team but ive seen them run this with great success from time to time, normally in the 4th when they're making a moral victory run.

:lol they didn't even get that today

[Mugen]

You're pretty fuckin' stupid (more than I previously thought, which would put you on the level of a Down Syndrome sufferer) if you don't see how the NBA has become faster and more perimeter oriented, with a heavy reliance on spacing and penetration.

:lol you would think Lakerfan would have learned this after watching their last two playoffs runs tbh.

[StrengthAndHonor]

:lol they didn't even get that today

Touche :lol

[Richie]

Disagree they're still top tier players. They also have no depth and athleticism, two crucial components any contending team needs to have in the modern NBA.

Nash nearly carried a horrible Suns team to the playoffs last year. Gasol is still a quality player. Neither are a first option to carry a team to a championship, but they are both still great players who would be better in literally any other team.

What you need to accept is that the Lakers are incredibly talented, and that's the best part of it. This is a team loaded with talent and still losing, which is the funniest part. To really enjoy this Laker season, you have to accept how talented they are, and laugh at how bad theyve been.

[NRHector]

jump in Lkrfan

[midnightpulp]

Nash nearly carried a horrible Suns team to the playoffs last year. Gasol is still a quality player. Neither are a first option to carry a team to a championship, but they are both still great players who would be better in literally any other team.

What you need to accept is that the Lakers are incredibly talented, and that's the best part of it. This is a team loaded with talent and still losing, which is the funniest part. To really enjoy this Laker season, you have to accept how talented they are, and laugh at how bad theyve been.

Agree to disagree. Nash, for all his offensive brilliance, is a huge, huge liability on defense, not to mention, prone to injury and exhaustion. Gasol seems to have left his A game in 2010. Kobe is declining, can't play defense, and is inconsistent. Howard needs the perfect complement of players (shooters) to excel. Then after those players, there's a huge dropoff in talent on the Lakers' roster.

I'm not hating for the sake of hating. I just don't see championship talent there. At the very least, under the right system and coach, maybe they're a darkhorse to get into the WCF, but as it stands, the Lakers are a collection of names past their primes without a bench.

[007nites]

Heard Calderon went HAM on Show-Be

[Stalin]

Only a fuckin' idiot (like you) would think Dwight Howard (an overrated monkey with no post game), a 60 year old Steve Nash, a declining Gasol, and an aging Kobe, surrounded by zero depth, youth, and athleticism would be the best team on paper. I told every single one of you morons sucking Mitch's dick how the Lakers didn't improve over the off-season, but you had too much of Mitch's semen in your eyes to see the truth.



:lol:lol:lol

[Ashy Larry]

nothing can be said ........ I said from jump, if that bench is not taken care of, it doesn't matter who your starting lineup is. And sure enough, the shit has hit the fan. Funny how Bryant is bitchin' about front office moves when he's launching 32 shots a game just to make fuckin' ten .... how crazy is that shit?????

[DPG21920]

Agree to disagree. Nash, for all his offensive brilliance, is a huge, huge liability on defense, not to mention, prone to injury and exhaustion. Gasol seems to have left his A game in 2010. Kobe is declining, can't play defense, and is inconsistent. Howard needs the perfect complement of players (shooters) to excel. Then after those players, there's a huge dropoff in talent on the Lakers' roster.

I'm not hating for the sake of hating. I just don't see championship talent there. At the very least, under the right system and coach, maybe they're a darkhorse to get into the WCF, but as it stands, the Lakers are a collection of names past their primes without a bench.

There is no doubt they have championship talent. It's just not working at the moment for various reasons.