NDAA Would Have Sent MLK to Gitmo

[SA210]

NDAA Would Have Sent MLK to Gitmo, Says Cornel West



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zR5QS3E3KWw


Firebrand black activist Dr. Cornel West gave a speech (http://www.c-spanvideo.org/clip/4313260) at the Tavis Smiley Presents Poverty In America series on Thursday that may surprise libertarians – in how much they agree with the "socialist radical."

Decrying the erosion of civil liberties today, Dr. West loudly lamented the "crypto-fascist" state developing in America – contrasting the federal government to crack addicts, whom he said at least "are honest about their addiction. The White House is addicted to power!"

"Love and justice is always weak ... [which is why] first you have to have a suspicion of government. This is why I resonate with my conservative brothers!" West said.
Continuing, he pointed out, "governments can be repressive! Vicious! Ugly! Violate your rights! Violate your liberties! Crush your people! Generate the propaganda! We need that sensibility too!"
Dr. West says that he understands the growing collusion between corporate America and the federal government to be a form of creeping crypto-fascism, a security state where rights are routinely violated and ignored – not so dissimilar to the plight of the black community today. In particular, he described the National Defense Authorization Act as a possible tool of government oppression, pointing out that Martin Luther King Jr. was under federal surveillance from January 1956 until his death in April 1968.

Most alarming for Dr. West was that provisions of the NDAA could have been used to lock away MLK without "due process or judicial process" – because he had known links to a man then commonly called a terrorist and now referred to as a heroic freedom fighter, Nelson Mandela.

"We have black political prisons right now in America," Dr. West said.

Dr. West called for government to instead be affirmative – to focus on resolving the plight of poor and working people. And he called for Americans to rise up and retake their country.
"It's not just about justice. Any justice that's only justice will soon degenerate into something less than justice – we gotta talk about love! Martin was a titan of love! If you're not talking about love and willingness to sacrifice, all this is just sounding brass and tinkling cymbal!"

"You gotta hit the streets, you gotta go to jail, you gotta be willing to die! That's what the movement's about! And if you're not willing to do that, then keep your jobs and drink your tea!" Dr. West concluded.

His arguments are not so far from those advanced by American libertarians – particularly those opposed to the NDAA and the increased surveillance powers it grants the federal government. In December 2011, Glenn Beck – now a full-fledged Ayn Rand-style libertarian – argued (http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2011/12/12/see-becks-passionate-interview-with-allen-west-over-indefinite-detention-bill-stance/) that the NDAA was a mechanism to indefinitely detain political undesirables.

But Dr. West and libertarians are far more likely to disagree on other things – namely, the plight of black America and the best way to resolve deepening poverty, inequality, and the lack of opportunity that comes with it. While Dr. West urges government to be "affirmative," libertarians would rather eliminate the government entirely.

However, it is a sign that Americans of all stripes and colors are growing increasingly suspicious of the developing security state. But it seems unlikely that these disparate wings of opposition could ever unite to oppose it.

http://www.policymic.com/articles/23660/ndaa-would-have-sent-mlk-to-gitmo-says-cornel-west

[DMX7]

Swing and a miss!

[ElNono]

Could or would?

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I'm just proud it's not a youtube.

[SA210]

Could or would?


Ask the article writer. Did you miss the point. oh wait..."sheeep. youtubes!!!"

:lmao

[SA210]

Swing and a miss!

Yup you missed pretty badly in that other thread you ran away from lol

[ElNono]

Ask the article writer. Did you miss the point. oh wait..."sheeep. youtubes!!!"

:lmao

The title says Would, the article says Could.

You posted it, which is it?

[Clipper Nation]

Glenn Beck – now a full-fledged Ayn Rand-style libertarian

:lmao


libertarians would rather eliminate the government entirely.

:lmao

What a shitful article, tbh...

[SA210]

I'm just proud it's not a youtube.

More spin :lol Anything new?

[ElNono]

:lmao

:lmao

[SA210]

The title says Would, the article says Could.

You posted it, which is it?

I posted the title of the article. :tu

How much more spin can you attempt as a result of you having no real argument to the actual point made? :lol

[ElNono]

I posted the title of the article. :tu

How much more spin can you attempt as a result of you having no real argument to the actual point made? :lol

So is it Could, Would or none of the above?

[FuzzyLumpkins]

More spin :lol Anything new?

I am being serious. How is that spin? I made no comment on the content and am saying that you are trying out new medium. If nothing else that would imply that this article is MORE credible.

[SA210]

:lmao



:lmao

What a shitful article, tbh...


I'm not a fan of Glenn Beck, he's an idiot.

Now that we got that out of the way, and now that your spin has been deflected. How would NDAA treat MLK? Or are you a defender of NDAA?

lol fake liberal shill

[SA210]

I am being serious. How is that spin? I made no comment on the content and am saying that you are trying out new medium. If nothing else that would imply that this article is MORE credible.

You had to mention youtube, follower like the others.

If you think it's credible, then comment on NDAA

[SA210]

So is it Could, Would or none of the above?

It's "ElNono is too afraid to comment on NDAA" lol

[ElNono]

There's obviously a major difference between 'could' and 'would'. Otherwise I wouldn't be asking.

Could is debatable. Would not so much.

[ElNono]

It's "ElNono is too afraid to comment on NDAA" lol

I commented on the NDAA before, it's must've been lost among the youtubes and sheeeeeep posts, tbh

[SA210]

:lol Look at all the morons deflecting the point of the story and personally attacking as a way to avoid the actual issue of NDAA.

lol Delusional

[ElNono]

:lol Look at all the morons deflecting the point of the story and personally attacking as a way to avoid the actual issue of NDAA.

lol Delusional

So is it could or would? Or you don't know?

[SA210]

I commented on the NDAA before, it's must've been lost among the youtubes and sheeeeeep posts, tbh

You comment on a lot of other stuff though that's the same, more than once.

Why not the same treatment to Obamas war crimes, treason, murderous policies, and attacks on whistleblowers and civil liberties?

:lmao

[Clipper Nation]

lol fake liberal shill

I'm pretty sure most on here would agree I'm not a "liberal shill," tbh :lol

[Clipper Nation]

Why would we want to avoid the issue of NDAA?

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Nco_kh8xJDs

Never fear! I has the youtubes!

[ElNono]

You comment on a lot of other stuff though that's the same, more than once.

I've commented (and condemned) on the NDAA and programs like extraordinary rendition multiple times.

I just don't get worked up or call sheeeeeep! people that disagree on it. After all, my opinion is no better than anyone elses (including yours).

[SA210]

So is it could or would? Or you don't know?

Your sheepish scared little bitch ass is just trying to deflect the issue, but I'll say this. The article title says would, the article says could. (lol you get a A for effort)

I will say that it would be ignorant and stupid to say that "would" would be out of the question. Definitely could, of course. Now that we got your spin out of the way, can you discuss Obamas treason, war crimes and attacks on civil liberties a bit more than the other non issues in the forum?

Maybe talk about the impeachment proceedings that should take place for being the first President ever to make it legal to arrest American citizens, with no charge, proof, trial or any due process of law whatsoever? Can you discuss how that's a very anti-American policy to not allow due process and a day in court for a US Citizen?

[SA210]

Why would we want to avoid the issue of NDAA?

Because you seem to go along with a lot of the fake libs on here, as to appear cool

[SA210]

I'm pretty sure most on here would agree I'm not a "liberal shill," tbh :lol

Same way I'm not an Alex Jones shill? But you sure like spewing that garbage anyway right? lol

[SA210]

All this talk and spin, but yet staying away from the topic originally posted. What a regular pattern for posters who supposedly seem to have so much "credibility" :lol

Yea right

[ElNono]

Your sheepish scared little bitch ass is just trying to deflect the issue, but I'll say this. The article title says would, the article says could. (lol you get a A for effort)

I will say that it would be ignorant and stupid to say that "would" would be out of the question. Definitely could, of course.

Well, there's obviously a big difference, beyond semantics.

I think 'could' is debatable. You could make the connection with Mandela, but unless he provided material support, the connection is tenuous at best.

I don't think it's automatic that he would be, and that's what 'would' implies.

[Clipper Nation]

Because you seem to go along with a lot of the fake libs on here, as to appear cool

Nice spin, but I ask again: why would we want to avoid the issue of NDAA?

[SA210]

I've commented (and condemned) on the NDAA and programs like extraordinary rendition multiple times.

I just don't get worked up or call sheeeeeep! people that disagree on it. After all, my opinion is no better than anyone elses (including yours).

I can admit that it's impeachable and calls for criminal trial, many of his policies and actions do. You avoid admitting this, and you avoid calling for his impeachment. You are wrong. :tu

Funny that you say your "opinion" is no better than mine, but yet you do act like a sheep and attack everything else other than the topic itself that I post lol Yes that's sheepish. You are so against it, but you can;t wait to attack the poster for posting it everytime lol

[SA210]

Nice spin, but I ask again: why would we want to avoid the issue of NDAA?

Nah, stop lying. I proved a point. And you tell me, why do yall avoid it? Seems to me that you feel more comfortable just trolling doing a chump impression everywhere and appeasing your fellow fake lib posters.

[Clipper Nation]

Nah, stop lying. I proved a point. And you tell me, why do yall avoid it?


Nice spin, but I ask again: why would we want to avoid the issue of NDAA?

[SA210]

Seems to me that you feel more comfortable just trolling doing a chump impression everywhere and appeasing your fellow fake lib posters.

[Clipper Nation]

^

Nice spin, but I ask again: why would we want to avoid the issue of NDAA?

[SA210]

As for other fake lib posters, it's their guy doing it so they won't be as harsh on him as they were on Bush, did you miss the billion other times I have said this and ignored it? lol

[ElNono]

I can admit that it's impeachable and calls for criminal trial, many of his policies and actions do. You avoid admitting this, and you avoid calling for his impeachment. You are wrong. :tu

I think under the current political climate it's unlikely. I thought the same thing when Bush was president. I haven't seen anything yet in the real world that contradicts that view. When it does, I'll be the first to admit I was wrong.


Funny that you say your "opinion" is no better than mine, but yet you do act like a sheep and attack everything else other than the topic itself that I post lol Yes that's sheepish. You are so against it, but you can;t wait to attack the poster for posting it everytime lol

Your opinion is no better than anyone else's. That's a fact of life and all the kicking and screaming in the world isn't changing it.

[ElNono]

BTW, I did address the post directly in this thread, and posted my opinion about it.

It's ok, you were wrong and your opinion is no better than anyone else. It happens to all of us.

[SA210]

BTW, I did address the post directly in this thread, and posted my opinion about it.

It's ok, you were wrong and your opinion is no better than anyone else. It happens to all of us.

You are wrong though. I posted fact. Obama has committed impeachable offenses. That's not opinion, it's fact. Your opinion is not better than fact.

Americans should have a right to trial, and due process of law, he signed a bill that takes that right away if he sees fit. That's not opinion. He should be impeached. It's ok, you are wrong, it happens. Just stop being wrong, because you now know the truth.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Anything is impeachable. The house just votes on it and then the Senate holds the trial. Thats like saying Obama has committed a discussable event.

[SA210]

Anything is impeachable. The house just votes on it and then the Senate holds the trial. Thats like saying Obama has committed a discussable event.

I think murdering Americans without due process is pretty impeachable :lol Love the spin though :tu

http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/530794_428430177225467_1330489965_n.jpg

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I never said it wasn't impeachable. I am just saying that the house can impeach him for whatever. Jaywalking for example. What you should be saying is that it is criminal but you are ignorant to how the Constitution handles such things.

[Clipper Nation]

As for other fake lib posters, it's their guy doing it so they won't be as harsh on him as they were on Bush, did you miss the billion other times I have said this and ignored it? lol

So basically, you have no valid reason for why we'd want to avoid the issue of NDAA, besides your fantasy of everyone on here being "hypocritical lib shills," tbh...

[ElNono]

You are wrong though. I posted fact.

You posted opinion. There's nothing factual about MLK being sent to Gitmo under a law that didn't exist when he was alive.

[SA210]

I never said it wasn't impeachable. I am just saying that the house can impeach him for whatever. Jaywalking for example. What you should be saying is that it is criminal but you are ignorant to how the Constitution handles such things.




I can admit that it's impeachable and calls for criminal trial, many of his policies and actions do.


:lmao My God ya'll can't be this stupid

[ElNono]

So basically, you have no valid reason for why we'd want to avoid the issue of NDAA, besides your fantasy of everyone on here being "hypocritical lib shills," tbh...

:lol the 'everyone else is stupid but me' defense... as cogent as the sheeeeeeeeep posts, tbh

[SA210]

You posted opinion. There's nothing factual about MLK being sent to Gitmo under a law that didn't exist when he was alive.

Right, and it was a good point to bring up, and it would be in MY OPINION very likely to have happened. The FACTS I posted however are Obamas criminal acts and policies that you avoid to admit are criminal and impeachable, and yall avoid calling for both impeachment for and criminal trial for such blatant factual acts. :tu

[SA210]

So basically, you have no valid reason for why we'd want to avoid the issue of NDAA, besides your fantasy of everyone on here being "hypocritical lib shills," tbh...

Look I know your trolling ways don't allow you to not spin anything, but what I said was YOU are a fake lib shill siding with the libs of the board most of the time, that's a fact.

And I said, as many others times..that the other libs avoid these issues because it's their guy. Anything else you care to spin, fake libertarian? lol

[SA210]

:lol the 'everyone else is stupid but me' defense... as cogent as the sheeeeeeeeep posts, tbh

You forgot to mention the facts I posted on what the President has committed to go along with your spin.

[SA210]

Can the political forum be renamed "Spin Forum"? lol

[ElNono]

Right, and it was a good point to bring up, and it would be in MY OPINION very likely to have happened. The FACTS I posted however are Obamas criminal acts and policies that you avoid to admit are criminal and impeachable, and yall avoid calling for both impeachment for and criminal trial for such blatant factual acts. :tu

The problem is that you're not convincing in your arguments. Could he be impeached and charged criminally? Sure. What we're all here missing is what's the compelling argument that would make it so under this political climate.

That's what escapes you. A lot of people agree with the NDAA being shit, Barry's continuation on the erosion of civil liberties, the damages made by the Patriot Act, Barry's government being shit, etc etc etc.

You're far from the first or last to call out Barry (or dubya) on such transgressions.

The problem here is that you want other people to share your opinion without substantiating it. And you think anybody that thinks different is a 'sheep' or a 'hater'. And that really is, boiled down, the extent of your stupidity.

People will start agreeing with you when you make a cogent argument. Until then, it's more sheeeeeeeep!

[Clipper Nation]

Look I know your trolling ways don't allow you to not spin anything, but what I said was YOU are a fake lib shill siding with the libs of the board most of the time, that's a fact.

And I said, as many others times..that the other libs avoid these issues because it's their guy. Anything else you care to spin, fake libertarian? lol
http://image.shutterstock.com/display_pic_with_logo/2844/2844,1113395407,1/stock-photo-gentle-spin-cycle-278837.jpg

[FuzzyLumpkins]

:lmao My God ya'll can't be this stupid

Sure but you keep grandstanding around the word impeachment.


You are wrong though. I posted fact. Obama has committed impeachable offenses. That's not opinion, it's fact. Your opinion is not better than fact.

It's like you understand the mechanics but do not know the relevant importance, thus me saying that anything is an impeachable offense.

Anyway impeachment is handled by the house and they have a national security as well as a justice committee. While we are not privy to the legal justifications of such detaining, they are. Now if you were to have some of those types coming out and saying that they are not privy to such then I would give your position credence of a conspiracy. As of now I think your angst is misplaced by not being directed on those that can take action and more than a little tin foil hat.

So basically you think all of these guys are in on it too?

http://homeland.house.gov/about/membership

http://judiciary.house.gov/about/members.html

And if you do then why are you not calling them out rather than masturbating to POTUS youtubes and memes?

[ElNono]

The NDAA was voted and passed by the same House that would need to impeach Barry for the NDAA... that's why your argument makes no sense.

[SA210]

The problem is that you're not convincing in your arguments. Could he be impeached and charged criminally? Sure. What we're all here missing is what's the compelling argument that would make it so under this political climate.

What people are missing here is that the term "political climate" is a cover to let him get away with such criminal acts, so are words like "rendition", "collateral damage", etc. I don't need to be any more convincing other than stating the facts. The fact is he has murdered Americans without due process. Nothing you can say, not even made up White house phrases, can change that fact.


That's what escapes you. A lot of people agree with the NDAA being shit, Barry's continuation on the erosion of civil liberties, the damages made by the Patriot Act, Barry's government being shit, etc etc etc.

You're far from the first or last to call out Barry (or dubya) on such transgressions.

And, the difference is the measure of outrage, the hypocrisy between the two. Murder and anti-American policies are ok under Obama, as long as yall simply state that you don't like it, it's ok. lol


The problem here is that you want other people to share your opinion without substantiating it. And you think anybody that thinks different is a 'sheep' or a 'hater'. And that really is, boiled down, the extent of your stupidity.

The extent of your stupidity is unknown to think that most people aren't sheep. MOST people have let these criminal acts go on. They use words like "collateral damage" and "political climate" to compromise the truth. That's sheepish and they are terms they fed you, and you ate it up. Most people have, that's realistic.


People will start agreeing with you when you make a cogent argument. Until then, it's more sheeeeeeeep!

I already did. It's a fact, he is the 1st President ever to murder Americans without due process, proof, charge or trial. If someone needs to be told a story to add to the facts rather than accepting facts as they are, then that says more about you than it does me. :lmao

[SA210]

The NDAA was voted and passed by the same House that would need to impeach Barry for the NDAA... that's why your argument makes no sense.

What does that have to do with your responsibility to call for his arrest and impeachment?

[SA210]

Sure but you keep grandstanding around the word impeachment.



It's like you understand the mechanics but do not know the relevant importance, thus me saying that anything is an impeachable offense.

Anyway impeachment is handled by the house and they have a national security as well as a justice committee. While we are not privy to the legal justifications of such detaining, they are. Now if you were to have some of those types coming out and saying that they are not privy to such then I would give your position credence of a conspiracy. As of now I think your angst is misplaced by not being directed on those that can take action and more than a little tin foil hat.

So basically you think all of these guys are in on it too?

http://homeland.house.gov/about/membership

http://judiciary.house.gov/about/members.html

And if you do then why are you not calling them out rather than masturbating to POTUS youtubes and memes?

lol I guess you missed all my posting and dissing on all those jackasses too? Well that's very convenient.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

lol I guess you missed all my posting and dissing on all those jackasses too? Well that's very convenient.

Please point them out would you. It's hard to discern if that is indeed the case through all the POTUS youtubes and memes. I checked the last two pages and this was consistent.

[ElNono]

What people are missing here is that the term "political climate" is a cover to let him get away with such criminal acts, so are words like "rendition", "collateral damage", etc. I don't need to be any more convincing other than stating the facts. The fact is he has murdered Americans without due process. Nothing you can say, not even made up White house phrases, can change that fact.

Political climate means that the other branches of government that should hold him accountable for such transgressions are fully on board with it.


And, the difference is the measure of outrage, the hypocrisy between the two. Murder and anti-American policies are ok under Obama, as long as yall simply state that you don't like it, it's ok.

Who said his policies are ok? Now you're making stuff up.

and lol @ measure of outrage. What 'measure of outrage' is posting youtubes and sheep! every 3 posts? Level 3, 4, 5?


The extent of your stupidity is unknown to think that most people aren't sheep. MOST people have let these criminal acts go on. They use words like "collateral damage" and "political climate" to compromise the truth. That's sheepish and they are terms they fed you, and you ate it up. Most people have, that's realistic.

MOST people can't do shit about it (and that includes you). Might be news to you, but fighting the good fight on Spurstalk hasn't cost any government official their job yet.

More youtubes, pictures, and calling people sheep isn't changing that.


I already did. It's a fact, he is the 1st President ever to murder Americans without due process, proof, charge or trial. If someone needs to be told a story to add to the facts rather than accepting facts as they are, then that says more about you than it does me.

So how does he gets impeached and charged criminally by the other branches of government that are responsible for that?

[ElNono]

What does that have to do with your responsibility to call for his arrest and impeachment?

My responsibility is to vote in representatives that share my views. None of them are calling for his arrest and impeachment at this time though (including those that don't share my views).

As a grown up, I know that posting youtubes and calling people that don't agree with me sheeeeeep! won't change that one bit.

[SA210]

Please point them out would you. It's hard to discern if that is indeed the case through all the POTUS youtubes and memes. I checked the last two pages and this was consistent.

Just off the top of my head really quick, gotta see my mom for dinner..

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=204512


http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=205139

I have defended Kucinich, although I still think he could have done a bit more.

[SA210]

My responsibility is to vote in representatives that share my views. None of them are calling for his arrest and impeachment at this time though (including those that don't share my views).

As a grown up, I know that posting youtubes and calling people that don't agree with me sheeeeeep! won't change that one bit.

But attacking someone every chance you get for posting makes a difference :lol

[FuzzyLumpkins]

The first president to murder americans without due process?

:lol I'm sorry that I missed that one. No sense of history it would seem. Andrew Jackson. look him up.

[ElNono]

But attacking someone every chance you get for posting makes a difference :lol

Hey, I never said I wanted to change anybody. I do admit being amused by the 'measure of outrage' you display here.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Just off the top of my head really quick, gotta see my mom for dinner..

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=204512


http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=205139

I have defended Kucinich, although I still think he could have done a bit more.

Yay more youtubes.

The first is about a POTUS campaign staffer. The second is from a rep where it is implied that she is a minion of Obama. The second link is almost entirely about the Obama administration with complaints that the GOP isn't doing enough.

You sit there and disclaim that your apolitical in this but your sources sure as hell are partisan.

[SA210]

Political climate means that the other branches of government that should hold him accountable for such transgressions are fully on board with it.



Who said his policies are ok? Now you're making stuff up.

and lol @ measure of outrage. What 'measure of outrage' is posting youtubes and sheep! every 3 posts? Level 3, 4, 5?



MOST people can't do shit about it (and that includes you). Might be news to you, but fighting the good fight on Spurstalk hasn't cost any government official their job yet.

More youtubes, pictures, and calling people sheep isn't changing that.



So how does he gets impeached and charged criminally by the other branches of government that are responsible for that?

It's ok to them because they aren't as outspoken as they were under Bush. As the great MLK said... Silence is betrayal.

I don't spend too much time fighting the good fight on Spurstalk, I don't live on here like some others, I have a life outside in the real world. Why would you assume such stupidity? lol I know, its a way of trying to smear me, so that way it will smear any other truths I bring up. lol More petty tactics.

Why do you fight the good fight on non issues that aren't as important as murdering Americans without proof, charge or trial by a President? lol

Oh well, See ya. I gotta go for now. It's been nice whoopin all your sorry spin master trolls this whole weekend. Have fun trying to gloat with the others just because I'm away. lol @ your fake victories

[SA210]

Hey, I never said I wanted to change anybody. I do admit being amused by the 'measure of outrage' you display here.

I'm lmao at all of yalls spin, sheepish stupidity and hypocricy lol

Goodbye sheep

[SA210]

The first president to murder americans without due process?

:lol I'm sorry that I missed that one. No sense of history it would seem. Andrew Jackson. look him up.


:lol so you excuse Obamas murder of Americans?

:lmao

[SA210]

Yay more youtubes.

The first is about a POTUS campaign staffer. The second is from a rep where it is implied that she is a minion of Obama. The second link is almost entirely about the Obama administration with complaints that the GOP isn't doing enough.

You sit there and disclaim that your apolitical in this but your sources sure as hell are partisan.

Partisan to what? :lmao

Would you like to see my threads on Bush from 4, 5, 6 years ago? lol

[FuzzyLumpkins]

:lol so you excuse Obamas murder of Americans?

:lmao

Yeah that's what I said. :rolleyes

[ElNono]

I'm lmao at all of yalls spin, sheepish stupidity and hypocricy lol

Goodbye sheep

:lol making my point for me

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Partisan to what? :lmao

Well the second link was about the liberal scourge. Teh first was going after POTUS his staff and reps that appeared to be supportive of POTUS.

Think about it a little. It's not too difficult I don't think.

[SA210]

Yeah that's what I said. :rolleyes

I like that you admitted in so many words that Obama is in fact a murderer of American citizens without due process of law :tu

Now you can call for his arrest. It's ok, you can do it. :tu

[SA210]

Seriously though, I gotta go :tu Cheers to the fake victories while I'm away lol

[ElNono]

I'm certainly curious to see the legal memos backing up such activity... and I'm fairly confident they're bullshit (much like Yoo memos on torture). Unfortunately, it normally takes another government to step in to finally see them.

[SA210]

I'm certainly curious to see the legal memos backing up such activity... and I'm fairly confident they're bullshit (much like Yoo memos on torture). Unfortunately, it normally takes another government to step in to finally see them.

lol Yea like Hillary will expose them, or some neo con. Oh wait same thing :lol

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I like that you admitted in so many words that Obama is in fact a murderer of American citizens without due process of law :tu

Now you can call for his arrest. It's ok, you can do it. :tu

Yeah, that's what I said. :rolleyes

Let's go back to what you said:


It's a fact, he is the 1st President ever to murder Americans without due process, proof, charge or trial.

No sense of history and for someone that keeps on talking about others being denied the right to due process you don't seem to hold that same ethic to your actions.

[Clipper Nation]

:lol Meltdown

[ElNono]

lol Yea like Hillary will expose them, or some neo con. Oh wait same thing :lol

Well, we saw Yoo's... and Congress should be able to request them. Again, political climate. It changes.

[thunderup]

I don't spend too much time fighting the good fight on Spurstalk, I don't live on here like some others, I have a life outside in the real world.

Doesnt seem so partner. It's seems as if you go overdrive in trying to pass on a message. However true or not, you look fucking retarded. Let other people live and believe what they want to believe.

[SA210]

:cry Don't ruin people's fantasy worlds. They live a lie, why must you ruin that and expose it? :cry

[SA210]

:lol Meltdown

Still staying off topic and using other trolls words to deflect that you had your ass handed to you, again. lol at your fake victories just because I was gone :lol Fake libertarian

[SA210]

Yeah, that's what I said. :rolleyes

Let's go back to what you said:



No sense of history and for someone that keeps on talking about others being denied the right to due process you don't seem to hold that same ethic to your actions.

Are you going to call for Obamas arrest now that you admit he's a murderer?

[SA210]

Well, we saw Yoo's... and Congress should be able to request them. Again, political climate. It changes.

They can request them now. What you mean is they don't have the balls, and someday they may try to request them. lol maybe that time will be when a republican is in office so that way the ant-war left will again come out of nowhere all of a sudden lol

MLK said The time is always right to do what is right.

I agree.

[thunderup]

I have to enlighten people while ridiculing those that don't believe the truff!

[SA210]

Wrong, they all attacked me and ridiculed me and my kid a long time ago in here and they continue to do it to avoid the truth, I finally fired back with the flat out truth, tbh, and they can't take it :tu

:lol It's hilarious

[thunderup]

So you think you're above everybody?

[SA210]

So you think you're above everybody?

You obviously think you are by telling me what I can and can't post. lol I didn't know you were a moderator

[ElNono]

They can request them now. What you mean is they don't have the balls, and someday they may try to request them. lol maybe that time will be when a republican is in office so that way the ant-war left will again come out of nowhere all of a sudden lol

I think it's more like they're onboard with it. They did vote for the NDAA, Patriot Act, etc after all.


MLK said The time is always right to do what is right.

I agree.

You're not MLK. MLK had a following. You? Not so much.

[thunderup]

You obviously think you are by telling me what I can and can't post. lol I didn't know you were a moderator
That's a retarded assumption partner.

Im only asking because you think you're all knowing as evident by your posts. How would you feel if you're kids would come down with polio? How would you feel if every conspiracy you've spouted in this forum is wrong (which it is until proven otherwise)?

Answer my question.

[SA210]

I think it's more like they're onboard with it. They did vote for the NDAA, Patriot Act, etc after all.



You're not MLK. MLK had a following. You? Not so much.


Speaking out of your ass again. lol I have won some major cases though, but that's as far as I'll go on that. I like your spin, it's shows your desperation. lol I never claimed to be an MLK, that's why I quoted his wise worse, son. Learn something.

:tu

[ElNono]

Speaking out of your ass again. lol I have won some major cases though, but that's as far as I'll go on that. I like your spin, it's shows your desperation. lol I never claimed to be an MLK, that's why I quoted his wise worse, son. Learn something.

Yah, we'll just take your word for it. Sheeeeep!

[SA210]

That's a retarded assumption partner.

Im only asking because you think you're all knowing as evident by your posts. How would you feel if you're kids would come down with polio? How would you feel if every conspiracy you've spouted in this forum is wrong (which it is until proven otherwise)?

Answer my question.

My daughter is healthy. If you have a problem with that get a petition going with the rest of the trolls and report me to the proper authorities :tu I'm not talking about what ifs. I'm talking about what has already happened. In the real world Obama has criminally murdered Americans. I like your desperation on the "what if's" though simply because you can't argue the "what has actually happened" lol

Classic case of spin, I posted facts, then they spin the topic and bring up other things that have nothing at all to do with the issues being discussed, love that word "conspiracy" lol Does a lot for you huh.

[SA210]

Yah, we'll just take your word for it. Sheeeeep!


That you are :tu

[ElNono]

squirming!

[SA210]

squirming!


Yup yall have all weekend. Owned, son

lol

[ElNono]

sheeep!

[thunderup]

I think I've figured you out. Your argument is that Obama has murdered Americans and he doesn't get shit on for it. Truth is, every president has in some way, shape or form. Politicians are crooked. I think every poster in this forum understands and believes this. You only make yourself look desperate in promoting the ole "politicians are crooked, I know the truth and you all don't!". Seeing that as this forum is wholly liberal, you're bound to get shit on. I'm not anywhere near liberal so I can see the situation with a bit of transparency.







We get it. You're angry about the government. Drop the act, you look like a faggot reaching for anything to help you out.

[SA210]

I think I've figured you out. Your argument is that Obama has murdered Americans and he doesn't get shit on for it. Truth is, every president has in some way, shape or form. Politicians are crooked. I think every poster in this forum understands and believes this. You only make yourself look desperate in promoting the ole "politicians are crooked, I know the truth and you all don't!". Seeing that as this forum is wholly liberal, you're bound to get shit on. I'm not anywhere near liberal so I can see the situation with a bit of transparency.







We get it. You're angry about the government. Drop the act, you look like a faggot reaching for anything to help you out.

You have nothing figured out about me. Obama has murdered AMERICANS with no due process of law, and has made it legal to arrest Americans with no due process of law, and it's a cop out to say other presidents have too.

THIS President ran on ending these types of policies, that's what CHANGE was all about remember? You make yourself look desperate to spin that. You sound pathetic to be making shit up. Most people are sheep, that's why politicians are corrupt and elected over and over again...duh...of course the posters will be offended for being called out on it lol. That doesn't change the truth though. :tu and you can't change it either.

Damn this is boring knocking yall out the park lol

[ElNono]

Have you talked to your Congressman about it? If you did, what did they say?

[thunderup]

:lol keep it going SA210

your greatest hits continues! :tu

[SA210]

Have you talked to your Congressman about it? If you did, what did they say?

Oh yea lol, the basic standard response letter. And he didn't quite apreciate the demonstration in front of his office afterward. lol

[SA210]

:lol keep it going SA210

your greatest hits continues! :tu

Yalls greatest deflections continue lol :tu keep it up, keep living the lie

[ElNono]

Oh yea lol, the basic standard response letter. And he didn't quite apreciate the demonstration in front of his office afterward. lol

Sounds like a major case was won... maybe you need to try with a different measure of outrage... :lol

[thunderup]

Yalls greatest deflections continue lol :tu keep it up, keep living the lie
I have nowhere deflected anything nor have I endorsed living a "lie". :lol

You're reaching, shitty parent.

[SA210]

I have nowhere deflected anything nor have I endorsed living a "lie". :lol

You're reaching, shitty parent.

lol desperation meltdown insults

[SA210]

Sounds like a major case was won... maybe you need to try with a different measure of outrage... :lol

Nah, not at all, but trying though in my spare time. I have won some other major cases though. :tu

[thunderup]

lol desperation meltdown insults
You really are a shitty parent. You should put your kids in a foster home or up for adoption. They'd at least get the right treatment.

[SA210]

You really are a shitty parent. You should put your kids in a foster home or up for adoption. They'd at least get the right treatment.

lol more unfounded desperation insults because the crybaby lost a debate. Why don't you report me lol

:lmao

[thunderup]

lol more unfounded desperation insults because the crybaby lost a debate. Why don't you report me lol

:lmao
:lol debate
:lol insults

Nothing fails harder than your attempt to be a parent. Kill yourself and leave it up to more responsible parents to raise your children, faggot.

[SA210]

:lmao Damn your meltdown and unfounded insults are even worse than the others and you barely stepped in. I hope ur gonna be ok. Don't do anything stupid to yourself or your loved ones. It's gonna be ok lil man. You got owned, it's just the Internets, not a big deal dude. Life goes on. Unless ur an American that gets droned of course lol


:lol

[thunderup]

:cry "you got owned"!
:cry "the Internet is mine, I'm king!"

[SA210]

:cry:cry:cry:cry

[ChumpDumper]

Kept his mama waiting.

[Wild Cobra]

The OP is a serious stretch in my opinion.

[Winehole23]

could have in the quote. modals matter.

[SA210]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zR5QS3E3KWw

[redzero]

I like your desperation on the "what if's" though simply because you can't argue the "what has actually happened" lol

:lol This is coming from a thread that you made about a "what if?".
:lol dumbass coward

[ChumpDumper]

Nobody watched it the first time.