recommend the best dog breed

[mavs>spurs]

thinking of getting another puppy soon, my bullmastiff is too stubborn/dickheaded doesnt listen and since he's 9 and won't be around forever i figure i want something more trainable this time around. must be a capable guard, affectionate, loyal, and trainable/smart. don't really care about grooming, i'll do the work if i have to as long as it listens and doesn't act like a tard in the house. something that will be good outdoors most of the day in a large yard and indoors at night so basically in and out. ability to withstand heat not an issue (yes i actually custom built a doghouse with a small window unit in it) so what say you?

oh and probably getting a girl this time tbh imo

[redzero]

Chow Chow

[mavs>spurs]

^uhhh aren't those things stubborn, aloof, and hard to train???

[DPG21920]

I feel awful for the dog that ends up with you. Never going on a run because you have no cardio endurance :lol

[mavs>spurs]

redzero and dpg trolling in a serious thread i sed

[DPG21920]

J/K: Get a Vizsla. They are beautiful dogs:

http://www.dogbreedinfo.com/vizsla.htm


The Vizsla is expressive, gentle, and loving. Keen and trainable to a high degree, they need mental stimulation daily. They need a patient, calm, firm hand. If they do not see you as a strong authority figure they will become stubborn. Reliable with children, loving to play for hours. Without extensive daily exercise they may be too energetic and excitable for very young toddlers, but are excellent for energetic kids. Able to adapt quickly to family life, and are generally good with other dogs. They are very athletic, and when lacking in exercise they may become destructive or neurotic. Socialize them well to people, places, noises, dogs and other animals. It is very important to obedience train your Vizsla. Without enough exercise, they can be overly eager, prancing around you in sheer excitement. This breed is highly trainable and very willing to please; if you can get them to understand exactly what it is you want of them. If you do not train this breed they may become difficult to handle and control. Example: See Video of a Vizsla who needs more exercise. Notice how very eager to please the dog is, yet has more built up energy than she knows what to do with. She is obviously stressed and not relaxed. Vizslas tend to chew. This breed is not for everyone. If you want a calm dog and are not willing to walk a couple of miles or jog at least one mile a day, do not choose a Vizsla. Without proper exercise, they can easily become high-strung. They have many talents such as: tracking, retrieving, pointing, watchdog and competitive obedience. The Vizsla is a hunting dog and may be good with cats they are raised with, but should not be trusted with animals such as hamsters, rabbits and guinea pigs etc... Be sure to always be your dogs pack leader to avoid any negative behaviors such as guarding furniture, food, toys, and so on. Well balanced Vizslas, who receive enough exercise, and have owners who are true pack leaders will not have these issues. These behaviors can be reversed, once the owners start displaying leadership, discipline, and provide enough exercise, both mental and physical.

They are very energetic, but if you train them properly they can be amazing. Very energetic though, but very loving and loyal. I have multiple friends with Vizslas and they are great.

[TSA]

My uncles chow bit me in the face when I was younger, fuck them and their purple tongues. I've got two American Pitbulls Terriers and am looking to adopt a third. I have a Pitbull rescue near me that specializes in picking the good ones from the shelters and puts them through temperament testing before making them available for adoption. I'll never buy a puppy again. They make shitty guard dogs though, they are too sweet.

[DPG21920]

Labs are great as well. Very smart and loving.

[mavs>spurs]

J/K: Get a Vizsla. They are beautiful dogs:

http://www.dogbreedinfo.com/vizsla.htm



They are very energetic, but if you train them properly they can be amazing. Very energetic though, but very loving and loyal. I have multiple friends with Vizslas and they are great.
i appreciate your serious input but ive got to think that you just posted that for the energetic/taking them on jogs bit tbh. those dogs are too small for what i'm looking for imho, kind of leaning towards a german shepherd as TSA said pitbulls aren't good guards and i'm looking for a good guard.

[redzero]

Chow Chows are loyal, independent, and they bite children. What else could you want?

[thunderup]

German shepherds are the best if you properly train them

[DPG21920]

No I promise didn't post it because of the jogging. I have several friends with them and they are super smart and really affectionate. They do require a lot of going outside/playing, but I posted that so you could see it. They take a little more work, but seemed to fit what you were looking for. Not really guard dogs though, but they are really good dogs and listen well if you do the proper training.

My listen instantly to my friends whenever they speak. Don't need leashes or anything.

[DPG21920]

I didn't know you were looking for a bigger dog. German Shepards are good, but IMO I would go Lab. Very smart as well, but a little less aggressive and more affectionate in my dealings.

[mavs>spurs]

does anyone here actually have experience owning german shepherds?

[baseline bum]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c2/Dobermann_Black_and_Tan_%22Vito%22.jpg

[The Reckoning]

doberman pinscher hands down best dog of all time. loyal to the teeth, obedient, loving, will bro it up with you. loves women and women are obsessed with them. knows when to chill and when to be active. also a shorthaired dog so you can keep them in the house. also, one of the smartest dogs in the world. they read your mind.

http://i49.tinypic.com/2dud1y.jpg

[Leetonidas]

German Shepherds are awesome, we have one and their are 4 more from the same family tree in my family. They're big, friendly and loving to their owners, but very protective of the home. Good dogs imo

[HarlemHeat37]

I have a King Shepherd, he's 2 years old now, but I would only recommend owning one if you are 100% committed to fully training it and accepting it's social flaws, tbh..

Many of them are skittish and overprotective, tbh..along with Dobermans, they are probably the most versatile breed(protective, intelligent, athletic, playful) and from my experience, most of them are aloof and won't invade the personal space of your guests(like a lot of bully breeds)..

My dog is highly intelligent, but very skittish and overprotective..we socialized him very well, but he has weak nerves, although that's probably due to poor breeding..

[DeadlyDynasty]

Get a real dog if you're going to get one. Don't be that guy with the Paris Hilton-sized dog. Be dedicated at training them when they're puppies. The good thing is that--no matter the breed--they are all hardwired with a keen sense of smell and a hatred for dark-skinned minorities

[HarlemHeat37]

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[monosylab1k]

Australian Cattle Dog, imho. Smart and loyal. High energy tho, so u gotta have the time to exercise it properly.

[blkroadrunners]

Labs are great as well. Very smart and loving.

Arent labs aggressive?

[Trainwreck2100]

Get a mutt kinda dog not a pound mutt but one that was bread as a mix.

[FkLA]

get a girlfriend faggot :lol

[TDMVPDPOY]

UR MOM KENTS

[Spur|n|Austin]

Considering the outside and large yard circumstances, I'd have to recommend the dog that I have; the smartest most loving breed there is IMO - A Border Collie!

Here are a couple pics of my pup - he's a year and a half old:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v697/mannyr_879/photo-3_zpsefc3f106.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v697/mannyr_879/IMG_2045_zps5c58800d.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v697/mannyr_879/IMG_1331_zps0aef065b.jpg

Good luck!

[Drachen]

thinking of getting another puppy soon, my bullmastiff is too stubborn/dickheaded doesnt listen and since he's 9 and won't be around forever i figure i want something more trainable this time around. must be a capable guard, affectionate, loyal, and trainable/smart. don't really care about grooming, i'll do the work if i have to as long as it listens and doesn't act like a tard in the house. something that will be good outdoors most of the day in a large yard and indoors at night so basically in and out. ability to withstand heat not an issue (yes i actually custom built a doghouse with a small window unit in it) so what say you?

oh and probably getting a girl this time tbh imo

Get a mix, they won't be inbred and stupid.

[Drachen]

Arent labs aggressive?

not at all. my one year old son climbs all over our dog (lab mix) and she is very good with him. If he is going a bit overboard, she gives him a soft bite, and he usually stops, but if he keeps going she just gets up and moves.

[DarrinS]

Lab

[silverblk mystix]

#1) Samoyed (not as common, smart,trainable,cool, needs regular grooming)


#1A) Yellow or Chocolate Lab (common-but all round great pets)

[baseline bum]

Considering the outside and large yard circumstances, I'd have to recommend the dog that I have; the smartest most loving breed there is IMO - A Border Collie!

Here are a couple pics of my pup - he's a year and a half old:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v697/mannyr_879/photo-3_zpsefc3f106.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v697/mannyr_879/IMG_2045_zps5c58800d.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v697/mannyr_879/IMG_1331_zps0aef065b.jpg

Good luck!

Border Collie is supposed to be by far the smartest dog out there. I remember seeing an episode of BBC's Horizon where they demonstrated one Border Collie's ability to reason abstractly.

KMKFxxou53k

[redzero]

There's a special place in hell for people who put clothes on their dog.

[Spur|n|Austin]

There's a special place in hell for people who put clothes on their dog.

There's a special place in the ground for people who believe in hell. What if it were a Pelicans jersey?

[Spur|n|Austin]

Border Collie is supposed to be by far the smartest dog out there. I remember seeing an episode of BBC's Horizon where they demonstrated one Border Collie's ability to reason abstractly.

KMKFxxou53k

What an interesting video, thanks BB! FYI, the part he's talking about begins at the 28:00 minute mark.

[HarlemHeat37]

There's a special place in hell for people who put clothes on their dog.

:lol, tbh..

[jeebus]

Get a mix, they won't be inbred and stupid.
+1

too many times pure breeds are the product of mother/son fucking or some other crazy inbred dog shit. plus mix breed won't cost hundreds of dollars.

[Th'Pusher]

Border Collie is supposed to be by far the smartest dog out there. I remember seeing an episode of BBC's Horizon where they demonstrated one Border Collie's ability to reason abstractly.

KMKFxxou53k
Border Collie is too smart for m>s. The dog would figure out how to open an account at a credit union before m>s.

[TeyshaBlue]

I love Labs, but they're some stupid dogs...and as pups, they're incredibly mouthy. Damn things will chew anything then chew the ground around it.

American Standard Poodles are incredible dogs....athletic as all hell and fucking brainiacs. Love 'em.

[cantthinkofanything]

Border Collie is too smart for m>s. The dog would figure out how to open an account at a credit union before m>s.

Plus the inferiority complex m>s would have every time he saw the dog's uncircumcised penis.

[DMC]

German Shepard. That fits all your needs. They are big dogs though. Smart fuckers, and cool headed until it's time to not be.

[Th'Pusher]

Op seems like a poodle owner tbh.

[KoolAid Mans Brother]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v697/mannyr_879/photo-3_zpsefc3f106.jpg

:lol Forcing your dog to be a Be@ner








http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v697/mannyr_879/IMG_2045_zps5c58800d.jpg

:lol Forcing your dog to be a loser.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

:lmao

[Spur|n|Austin]

:lol at internet tough guys.

[mavs>spurs]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v697/mannyr_879/IMG_1331_zps0aef065b.jpg

tbh, where was this taken at??

[DarrinS]

tbh, where was this taken at??


My guess -- Nueces or Frio river.

[benefactor]

Doberman gets my vote for what you are describing.

[Lincoln]

Mini schnauzers are smart as fuck and affectionate tbh. Can be a little barky to strangers but they loyal

[Spur|n|Austin]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v697/mannyr_879/IMG_1331_zps0aef065b.jpg

tbh, where was this taken at??

My parent's crib in Wimberley, Texas on the Blanco River.

[mavs>spurs]

how's the fishing there? looks badass, i'd love to have property there on the river.

[tlongII]

Lab

[spursncowboys]

australian shepherds. Hands down! My favorite atleast.

[Spur|n|Austin]

how's the fishing there? looks badass, i'd love to have property there on the river.

Pretty fine fishing for medium bass and sunfish; growing up I caught a ton of catfish in the deeper areas, but haven't been as lucky recently. Our neighbor is a hell of a fly fisher, if thats your bag.

[TSA]

Mini schnauzers are smart as fuck and affectionate tbh. Can be a little barky to strangers but they loyal
And now we all know why you have trouble talking to females.

[Lincoln]

And now we all know why you have trouble talking to females.

I do? Besides that one girl 5 years older than me, I don't have any troubles

[Koolaid_Man]

thinking of getting another puppy soon, my bullmastiff is too stubborn/dickheaded doesnt listen and since he's 9 and won't be around forever i figure i want something more trainable this time around. must be a capable guard, affectionate, loyal, and trainable/smart. don't really care about grooming, i'll do the work if i have to as long as it listens and doesn't act like a tard in the house. something that will be good outdoors most of the day in a large yard and indoors at night so basically in and out. ability to withstand heat not an issue (yes i actually custom built a doghouse with a small window unit in it) so what say you?

oh and probably getting a girl this time tbh imo


all trolling aside it irks me that people who can barely afford to care for themselves would even entertain the idea of getting a dog. Let it go Mavs>Spurs you claim to have a bullmastiff but given your penchant for regularly eating at Burger King and barely getting a job I seriously doubt you can afford food for a dog like that... let alone a vet bill. You are truly a piece of work...I wonder how many dogs with a bullet in their head are buried in your back yard because they got sick...there's a special place in hades for you...fucking loser

[The Reckoning]

oh snap

[SourCandy]

Lab :)

[The Reckoning]

Lab :)

hey girl

[I. Hustle]

Irish wolfhound tbh imo gfy
http://galeri.uludagsozluk.com/22/irish-wolfhound_33352_m.jpg

or mix them with a Great Dane and turn it into a Liger.
http://www.dogbreedinfo.com/images15/IrishWolfhoundFrankBrendan.JPG

[rascal]

i appreciate your serious input but ive got to think that you just posted that for the energetic/taking them on jogs bit tbh. those dogs are too small for what i'm looking for imho, kind of leaning towards a german shepherd as TSA said pitbulls aren't good guards and i'm looking for a good guard.

Everything you do is built on fear. Now need a guard dog.

[FkLA]

Is something like a Pug of French Bulldog gay? Im actually looking for a dog too but Im staying in a small 1 bedroom apt so will probably go with a smaller breed tbh.

http://www.chetthedog.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/6790315-close-up-of-a-wild-running-young-blond-pug.jpg

http://www.bigcreekkennels.com/images/french_bulldog.jpg

[mavs>spurs]

Everything you do is built on fear. Now need a guard dog.
Absolutely not true, I've always been a dog person and had a thing for the larger working breeds, of all the qualities I listed that im looking for only one was about guarding. Also want one I can jog with tbh.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

I still say pitbulls are very loving animals and loyal as hell to their owners. Maybe not THE smartest working breed or anything, but serve as decent guard dogs since people believe all pitbulls are 4-legged agents of terror.

[Spur|n|Austin]

I still say pitbulls are very loving animals and loyal as hell to their owners. Maybe not THE smartest working breed or anything, but serve as decent guard dogs since people believe all pitbulls are 4-legged agents of terror.

The bad rep that Pitbulls get is frustrating, like you said, they are very loving and extremely loyal.

[lebomb]

http://www.bossykennels.com/arnols1.JPG

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

http://www.bossykennels.com/arnols1.JPG

Yeah, when Pitbulls are bred and raised by someone like Mike Vick then they become mean spirited killers. The same would happen if Mike Vick raised a German Sheperd to win him money in fights.

[SpursRock20]

Labs are some of the greatest dogs out there. But a dog that has not been mentioned yet, and too often gets a bad rap is the rottweiler. I've had a couple throughout my life, and find them to be more loyal than my labs and not as aggressive as you might think. Not to say that my rottie isn't different than my labs. If he doesn't know you, he would rather smell you before you put his hand on him but he has never bit anyone. If you pour attention, exercise, love, and affection into any breed of dog, they can be great dogs as long as they are not inbred.

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[mrsmaalox]

I always wanted a German Shepherd, but the ones I've known personally tended to be unhealthy---due to inbreeding I suppose. 9 years ago I got a 3/4 Doberman, 1/4 shepherd mix that has been the best dog in the world! He is healthy (we run 2 miles 5 days a week and 5 miles one weekend day), VERY smart, well behaved, friendly and protective of our family.

[Spur|n|Austin]

Labs are some of the greatest dogs out there. But a dog that has not been mentioned yet, and too often gets a bad rap is the rottweiler. I've had a couple throughout my life, and find them to be more loyal than my labs and not as aggressive as you might think. Not to say that my rottie isn't different than my labs. If he doesn't know you, he would rather smell you before you put his hand on him but he has never bit anyone. If you pour attention, exercise, love, and affection into any breed of dog, they can be great dogs as long as they are not inbred.

http://images2.fanpop.com/image/photos/13300000/Beautiful-Rottweiler-rottweiler-13379022-1280-960.jpg

I've had nothing but good experiences with Rotts, unfortunately a family friend of mine has not. She had one for about 7 years and one day it actually attacked her; weirdest thing, but I've heard of Dobermans doing the same thing. It was quite the brutal attack, she had to have plastic surgery on her face to repair some of the damages.

[DisAsTerBot]

catahoulas....look them up. They are an indian dog breed, so if you're pretending to be a native american again these will be right up your alley! Seriously though, awesome dogs who can be trained to hunt ANYTHING in north america. Also excellent guard dogs who are instinctively suspicious of strangers.

http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg221/cccchris007/IMAG0741_zps7d5566ac.jpg
http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg221/cccchris007/IMAG0734_zpsc5a870d6.jpg
top pic is my 3 year old male, about 90lbs
bottom is my 9 year old female, about 75lbs

[SourCandy]

Beautiful pit

[NASpurs]

Labs are some of the greatest dogs out there. But a dog that has not been mentioned yet, and too often gets a bad rap is the rottweiler. I've had a couple throughout my life, and find them to be more loyal than my labs and not as aggressive as you might think. Not to say that my rottie isn't different than my labs. If he doesn't know you, he would rather smell you before you put his hand on him but he has never bit anyone. If you pour attention, exercise, love, and affection into any breed of dog, they can be great dogs as long as they are not inbred.

http://images2.fanpop.com/image/photos/13300000/Beautiful-Rottweiler-rottweiler-13379022-1280-960.jpg

I have a Rottweiler and she's one of the sweetest dogs I've had. Not the brightest and very aloof, she still think she's a puppy even though she's approaching ten years old. When strangers meet her, they're initially scared of her due to their reputation but she gets along with them just fine and they find out how sweet Rottweilers can be.

On the other hand, I had a German Shepherd and she was mean as shit. Very protective dog and not sociable at all with other people besides our family and not sociable with other dogs. Some dogs can be total loners and not meant to be with other dogs is what I've come to notice.

[HarlemHeat37]

It's true to an extent, tbh..

My GS loves other dogs, but it takes him 30 mins-an hour to warm up to most people..he also hates drug addicts(coke/pills) and relentlessly barks at them, we've noticed..

My girl takes care of her friend's Rotti every few weeks, and while the dog is nice, he's very whiny(like a lot of bully breeds) and kind of dumb, tbh..

[spurs_fan_in_exile]

catahoulas....look them up. They are an indian dog breed, so if you're pretending to be a native american again these will be right up your alley! Seriously though, awesome dogs who can be trained to hunt ANYTHING in north america. Also excellent guard dogs who are instinctively suspicious of strangers.


Holy shit, I was just about to post that. My brother owned one, most loyal dog I ever saw. For a guy without much experience with dogs he was able to train his pretty easily. Needs a good amount of exercise, but that will true of any breed big and intelligent enough to make an ideal guard dog. Such a good dog that his friends got one from the same rescue outfit. They had a daughter who was about one at the time. The dog was totally gentle and patient with her no matter how grabby or bothersome she got, and absolutely did not fuck around with any strangers who took an interest in that baby.

[Sportcamper]

I listed that im looking for only one was about guarding. Also want one I can jog with tbh.

Guard dog & jogging partners are two different things…If you had trouble training a Mastiff I don’t think you are up for the challenges of training a Lab…

I have owned Large Great Danes & Italian Blue Mastiffs and they practically train themselves…But no way are they up for a jog in the rain or a long walk on a sweltering 100 degree evening…

Labradors on the other hand are game for anything…Frisbee in the rain, mountain biking on trails or a walk at 4 AM…Dogs that like to run take considerable patience, time & energy….Sporting dogs like Labs & Pointers need daily exercise & attention…

[mavs>spurs]

Guard dog & jogging partners are two different things…
uh, not necessarily. German shepherd and Doberman fit the bill for both. As does Rottweiler to an extent, were not talking marathon running over here more like a mile.


If you had trouble training a Mastiff I don’t think you are up for the challenges of training a Lab…
What are you talking about? Bullmastiffs are notoriously stubborn and one of the most difficult breeds to train. You compare them to mastiffs but they are only half, the stubbornness comes from the bully side.

I have owned Large Great Danes & Italian Blue Mastiffs and they practically train themselves…But no way are they up for a jog in the rain or a long walk on a sweltering 100 degree evening…
neat that's why I don't take mine running


Labradors on the other hand are game for anything…Frisbee in the rain, mountain biking on trails or a walk at 4 AM…Dogs that like to run take considerable patience, time & energy….Sporting dogs like Labs & Pointers need daily exercise & attention…
Don't want a lab they aren't much of a guard breed, I want my family and property protected when I'm away

[mavs>spurs]

I think I've narrowed it to gsd, Rottweiler, or Doberman. Which should I pick for the qualities I'm looking for and why iyo?

[benefactor]

Is something like a Pug of French Bulldog gay? Im actually looking for a dog too but Im staying in a small 1 bedroom apt so will probably go with a smaller breed tbh.

http://www.chetthedog.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/6790315-close-up-of-a-wild-running-young-blond-pug.jpg

http://www.bigcreekkennels.com/images/french_bulldog.jpg
Boston Terrier tbh. I have one and he's a great inside dog. He was pretty rambunctious as a puppy but he just chills now.

[benefactor]

I think I've narrowed it to gsd, Rottweiler, or Doberman. Which should I pick for the qualities I'm looking for and why iyo?
Doberman. Just about everything you listed in the OP lines up. The one I owned and all the ones I have been around have been great.

[Spur|n|Austin]

I think I've narrowed it to gsd, Rottweiler, or Doberman. Which should I pick for the qualities I'm looking for and why iyo?


Out of those three, I like the German Shepard; he/she is going to be smarter than the Rott or Doberman. Also, he'd be a good running buddy, just make sure not to take him/her running as a pup or until they're close to fully grown, it can mess with their growth plates.

[NASpurs]

Don't know anything about Dobermans but be forewarned that Rotweillers and German Shepherds are susceptible to hip dysplasia

[CosmicCowboy]

I have had labs and german shepherds (plus german shorthairs, laceys, akitas, and mastiffs) but am really partial to heelers. Hands down the smartest dogs I have ever owned. I've had a red and a currently have a blue.

http://rsranchtrailrides.com/heelers_red_blue_zoomed_in.jpg

[GoodOdor]

Labs.

[cantthinkofanything]

We were looking for a dog for my daughter. We ran into some people at the vet who had just found this puppy in the street so we ended up adopting it. It looks like an Australian Shepard but some have said it's Border Collie. It has a double back dew claw which the vet told us indicated a high probability of being part Pyranees. I've had a lot of dogs but to this point, this one has been the smartest by far. Still would like to know if it's Aussie or Border Collie.

http://i1049.photobucket.com/albums/s398/cantthinkofanything2/puppydec2012_zps01a39e5d.jpg

[mrsmaalox]

That's a really cool dog CTOA.

I vote for a Doberman for m>s.

[oh crap]

doberman imo

[The Reckoning]

Out of those three, I like the German Shepard; he/she is going to be smarter than the Rott or Doberman. Also, he'd be a good running buddy, just make sure not to take him/her running as a pup or until they're close to fully grown, it can mess with their growth plates.


i've owned both heeler and doberman and have been around shepards.

by far the dog ive had who had the most intelligence "personification" wise was the dobie. the heeler and shepards were incredibly smart, but sometimes they were completely turned off to how you were feeling. they'd understand but just not care.

dobie, on the other hand, you can see when he/she is guilt tripped or tries to respond to your emotions. they really want you to be happy imo, and it's cool to watch them think and process information.

i think any "top ten" smartest dog breeds list will have a dobie on it.

rotts are retarded.

[Spur|n|Austin]

We were looking for a dog for my daughter. We ran into some people at the vet who had just found this puppy in the street so we ended up adopting it. It looks like an Australian Shepard but some have said it's Border Collie. It has a double back dew claw which the vet told us indicated a high probability of being part Pyranees. I've had a lot of dogs but to this point, this one has been the smartest by far. Still would like to know if it's Aussie or Border Collie.

http://i1049.photobucket.com/albums/s398/cantthinkofanything2/puppydec2012_zps01a39e5d.jpg

Totally looks like a BC; good looking dog!

Edit: On second look, he has a lot of Shepard too..

[SpursRock20]

rotts are retarded.

Rotts are certainly not retarded. They are just stubborn and a very dominant dog. You have to give them much attention and discipline. Many police forces use rottweilers as their dog of choice, and they are also great search and rescue dogs. They are by no means "retarded".

[FkLA]

Boston Terrier tbh. I have one and he's a great inside dog. He was pretty rambunctious as a puppy but he just chills now.

Yeah wouldnt mind a Boston Terrier either, they look alot like the French Bulldogs tbh. You got yours from a breeder or a rescue shelter ?

And Id go with a Rott m>s, my brother has one and hes real loyal, energetic, and protective tbh. Definitely a better dog (based on that criteria) than the Pittbulls weve had in the past.

[leemajors]

if you get a rott resist the impulse to mutilate it.

[mavs>spurs]

^definitely, i'm not cutting its tail off to conform to the rest of the psychopaths. "everyone does it" doesn't make it okay. that's for damn sure, whatever i get i won't be cropping ears or cutting off tails.

[benefactor]

Yeah wouldnt mind a Boston Terrier either, they look alot like the French Bulldogs tbh. You got yours from a breeder or a rescue shelter ?

And Id go with a Rott m>s, my brother has one and hes real loyal, energetic, and protective tbh. Definitely a better dog (based on that criteria) than the Pittbulls weve had in the past.
A lady at my work has several full blood ones and I got him from her. She had a litter and was showing the puppies off and said that because one dog had papers and the other didn't she wasn't going to charge for the puppies. I jumped on it, of course. He's pure entertainment...does the most random shit and makes the most random faces.

[FkLA]

A lady at my work has several full blood ones and I got him from her. She had a litter and was showing the puppies off and said that because one dog had papers and the other didn't she wasn't going to charge for the puppies. I jumped on it, of course. He's pure entertainment...does the most random shit and makes the most random faces.

Nice. :tu

And yeah the more I read about them the more Im leaning towards them tbh.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Is something like a Pug of French Bulldog gay? Im actually looking for a dog too but Im staying in a small 1 bedroom apt so will probably go with a smaller breed tbh.

http://www.chetthedog.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/6790315-close-up-of-a-wild-running-young-blond-pug.jpg

http://www.bigcreekkennels.com/images/french_bulldog.jpg

Not trying to troll or talk shit, but getting a dog while you're in college (and in a hard major for that matter) is a huge mistake. Everyone I know who's done it says they regret it and having the responsibility of a dog made college difficult. Just wait till you're done with school.

[FkLA]

Girls staying with me so shell help out tbh. Wouldnt try to get a dog if I had to care for it all on my own, that would definitely be a stupid idea.

[Lincoln]

You should get your dog circumcised tbh

[mavs>spurs]

you should go up to utd and be a free score again on d and auto turnover whenever you get the ball imho LOLOL

[CuckingFunt]

Yeah wouldnt mind a Boston Terrier either, they look alot like the French Bulldogs tbh.

Frenchies were crossbred/interbred with pugs and terriers in order to reduce their size and to encourage certain aesthetic traits, so it's not surprising they look alike. My mom has a Frenchie and, especially due to his coloring and the fact he's big for the breed (bigger in general, and with longer legs in proportion to his body than is standard), most people think he's just a fat or stocky Boston.

For the record, French Bulldogs are a handful. And are really only advisable for people who are prepared to see acting like an asshole as a charming personality trait and/or a legitimately adorable/funny caught-in-the-act face as a good enough reason to forgive said asshole-ish behavior. Stubborn is an understatement. My mom's is amusing in small doses when I'm visiting, but I'd have lost my mind ages ago if I had to live with him.

[CuckingFunt]

Not trying to troll or talk shit, but getting a dog while you're in college (and in a hard major for that matter) is a huge mistake. Everyone I know who's done it says they regret it and having the responsibility of a dog made college difficult. Just wait till you're done with school.

Getting a pet should be avoided unless you're prepared to take on as much responsibility as you would if you had a kid. And anyone who says otherwise is probably a shitty pet owner.

[TSA]

All of these breed recommendations are great and all but we've all skipped over the most important factor.
m>s, what does your mom want in her house?

[leemajors]

All of these breed recommendations are great and all but we've all skipped over the most important factor.
m>s, what does your mom want in her house?


:lol

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Getting a pet should be avoided unless you're prepared to take on as much responsibility as you would if you had a kid. And anyone who says otherwise is probably a shitty pet owner.

Idk about "as much responsibility as you would if you had a kid," but I agree with your general point. I fuckin hate pet owners who say, "My dog is an outside dog!" That's code for I'm too fuckin lazy to give my dog attention so I make it sit outside 20 hours a day.

[Fabbs]

Irish Setter - Golden Retriever combo is beautiful.

Must have access to big ole fields to run in. Better yet, in addition to fields a big pond/lake/ocean to swim in. Great swimmers.
http://cdn-www.dailypuppy.com/media/dogs/anonymous/chelsea_setterretriever04.jpg_w450.jpg

[DisAsTerBot]

All of these breed recommendations are great and all but we've all skipped over the most important factor.
m>s, what does your mom want in her house?
:rollin

[lebomb]

I would get a COD or a DAT ........... its a mix of a cat and a dog. It has attributes of both. Smart and loyal, protective like a dog. It will ignore you, be independent like a cat. A cod/dat does have some issues, its kinda curious and when you turn the corner in your house and look down, the lil fucker will be sittin there staring at you. Kinda creepy tbh.

http://www.9aha.com/pic/201204/20120406024948474.jpg

[SpursRock20]

Idk about "as much responsibility as you would if you had a kid," but I agree with your general point. I fuckin hate pet owners who say, "My dog is an outside dog!" That's code for I'm too fuckin lazy to give my dog attention so I make it sit outside 20 hours a day.

:tu

[mrsmaalox]

http://www.9aha.com/pic/201204/20120406024948474.jpg

:vomit:

[cantthinkofanything]

Idk about "as much responsibility as you would if you had a kid," but I agree with your general point. I fuckin hate pet owners who say, "My dog is an outside dog!" That's code for I'm too fuckin lazy to give my dog attention so I make it sit outside 20 hours a day.

I know what you're saying but don't agree 100%. Any dog I've had can stay in the house. But I've had a couple that wanted to spend most of the day outside. If I let them in, they'd be at the door whining to get out. Some dogs ARE outside dogs.

As to lazy, I know a lot of dog owners who have inside dogs and don't do anything with them. Dog will just lay on the floor all day.

[CuckingFunt]

Idk about "as much responsibility as you would if you had a kid," but I agree with your general point. I fuckin hate pet owners who say, "My dog is an outside dog!" That's code for I'm too fuckin lazy to give my dog attention so I make it sit outside 20 hours a day.

Well, obviously I don't mean that you have to do anything on par with picking out good school districts or setting up college funds because you buy a dog. A pet isn't a kid. I just meant in terms of the fact that, like a child, a pet is something that requires your daily input/effort/interaction, requires a certain financial output, and influences all major life decisions you'll make for as long as you have the pet.

[TeyshaBlue]

For the record, French Bulldogs are a handful. And are really only advisable for people who are prepared to see acting like an asshole as a charming personality trait and/or a legitimately adorable/funny caught-in-the-act face as a good enough reason to forgive said asshole-ish behavior. Stubborn is an understatement. My mom's is amusing in small doses when I'm visiting, but I'd have lost my mind ages ago if I had to live with him.

You just described my Chihuahuas. Yes, plural. As in 2 pure and two mixed. And yes, I drink.


Alot.

[mavs>spurs]

^never knew you were mexican tbh

[Amarelooms]

Bump...looking for medium sized dog. What about collie or Wheaten terrier

:elephant

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Collies have to be trained to not bark or they will drive you crazy. This is true for most breeds but moreso for collies. Dogs eat shit and I mean that literally.

[cantthinkofanything]

We were looking for a dog for my daughter. We ran into some people at the vet who had just found this puppy in the street so we ended up adopting it. It looks like an Australian Shepard but some have said it's Border Collie. It has a double back dew claw which the vet told us indicated a high probability of being part Pyranees. I've had a lot of dogs but to this point, this one has been the smartest by far. Still would like to know if it's Aussie or Border Collie.

http://i1049.photobucket.com/albums/s398/cantthinkofanything2/puppydec2012_zps01a39e5d.jpg

So this turned out to be the best dog I've ever had. Never grew to the size of a Pyrenees but has many other traits besides the dewclaws. Don't think it's Aussie at all now...probably Border Collie. Smarter than Boutons and Cobra combined. Will be a problem if my daughter wants to take her to college. As highly as dogs are praised, they're still underrated.

[I. Hustle]

Smarter than Boutons and Cobra combined.

So is this dog though.

http://www.davespink.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/dog.jpg

[FkLA]

http://i.imgur.com/GL0Bb76.jpg?1?6556

http://i.imgur.com/0FTAyCZ.jpg?1

My nigga tbh.

[SnakeBoy]

Irish wolfhound tbh imo gfy
http://galeri.uludagsozluk.com/22/irish-wolfhound_33352_m.jpg


I've owned 3 of them and am looking forward to getting another pair once our 3 rescue mutts die off. Wolfhounds are great dogs but not a good choice if obedience training is your goal.

[Technique]

http://cdn-4.dooziedog.com/dog_breeds/siberian_husky/images/full/Siberian-Husky-2.jpg

[m>s]

Good bump, getting another german shepherd soon

[TE]

Yeah, I'm bias as fuck but GS's are the best. Border Collies, Australian Shepherds and Golden Retrievers arr also very good breeds. I love my dogs tbh

[cantthinkofanything]

Good bump, getting another german shepherd soon

This will absolutely be my next dog. We can really only have three and I've let my daughter and wife pick the last two. Now have two border mixes and a great lazy beagle mix. But one of the collies is a 16 who I hate to say is in her last legs. I really would like to get a GS. All our dogs are awesome but would like to have one that could run off any would be assholes. The collies are territorial but not sure if they couldn't be swayed by a chew toy. Like Avantes mom.

[xmas1997]

They say labradoodles are quickly becoming the best and most popular breed.
However, Labrador retrievers are presently the most popular.

[DJR210]

Call me typcial but I love Pits. I love proving idiots wrong that they are destined to be vicious. Now when your dumbass tries to fuck with my property, that's another story.

[Death In June]

Chesapeake bay retriever was the best dog I've had. Smart, skilled hunter and fisher, loyal, protective and social.

[oh crap]

recent list of the 10 smartest dog breeds

10. Australian Shepherds
9. Golden Retriever
8. Siberian Huskies
7. Belgian Malinois
6. Newfoundland
5. Labrador Retriever
4. Beagle
3. Bloodhound
2. German Shepherd
1. Border Collie

[The Reckoning]

recent list of the 10 smartest dog breeds

10. Australian Shepherds
9. Golden Retriever
8. Siberian Huskies
7. Belgian Malinois
6. Newfoundland
5. Labrador Retriever
4. Beagle
3. Bloodhound
2. German Shepherd
1. Border Collie

Doberman should be up there.

[oh crap]

Doberman should be up there

:tu

I agree. One of my favorite breeds.

[I. Hustle]

This will absolutely be my next dog. We can really only have three and I've let my daughter and wife pick the last two. Now have two border mixes and a great lazy beagle mix. But one of the collies is a 16 who I hate to say is in her last legs. I really would like to get a GS. All our dogs are awesome but would like to have one that could run off any would be assholes. The collies are territorial but not sure if they couldn't be swayed by a chew toy. Like Avantes mom.

Nice save. That was almost a boring post.

[I. Hustle]

Call me typcial but I love Pits. I love proving idiots wrong that they are destined to be vicious. Now when your dumbass tries to fuck with my property, walk down my sidewalk, be an elderly person, be a toddler, breath in the general vicinity or be within 10 yards of a pit... that's another story.

fify

[DJR210]

fify

Nope. My Dad has a pack of Chihuahua's at his house, now those mother fuckers are vicious. The second you turn around you're getting your ankle or pant leg bitten.

[Spur|n|Austin]

Yeah, I'm bias as fuck but GS's are the best. Border Collies, Australian Shepherds and Golden Retrievers arr also very good breeds. I love my dogs tbh

I'm biased as hell towards BC's; mine is by far the smartest dog I've ever come across. Agree 100% on the 3 breeds you listed.

[DMC]

Dogs are too much work. I love them, but they require more than I'm willing to give ergo I don't own a pet.

[I. Hustle]

Nope. My Dad has a pack of Chihuahua's at his house, now those mother fuckers are vicious. The second you turn around you're getting your ankle or pant leg bitten but at least you'll live as opposed to a pit tearing your face off.

fify

[TE]

I'm biased as hell towards BC's; mine is by far the smartest dog I've ever come across. Agree 100% on the 3 breeds you listed.

My sis owns two border collies. They are very good. I wouldn't mind getting one if I wanted to account for an additional dog financially. My GS and G.Retriever are expensive a.f.

[Spur|n|Austin]

Dogs are too much work. I love them, but they require more than I'm willing to give ergo I don't own a pet.

If you get a smart enough breed and have a doggie door; we've found that they truly aren't as much work as we were concerned about. The reward is much bigger than the work, imo.

[DJR210]

fify

You ever own a pit?

[Spur|n|Austin]

You ever own a pit?

I've yet to meet a smart pit bull; they're nice as hell but not too sharp. Not the breed for meh.

[I. Hustle]

You ever own a pit?

LOL you pit people are so easy to piss off. I'm just messing with you. My brother breeds them. His look like monsters though. Not those little puppies that you guys show on here.

[The Reckoning]

people with pits have low IQs. all of them.

[DJR210]

LOL you pit people are so easy to piss off. I'm just messing with you. My brother breeds them. His look like monsters though. Not those little puppies that you guys show on here.

:lol Don't flatter yourself, not mad at all. Just asked you a question.

[DJR210]

I've yet to meet a smart pit bull; they're nice as hell but not too sharp. Not the breed for meh.

There is such a thing as smart pit, like you said you've yet to meet one. My roommates dog used to trip me out with the amount of commands he taught her. For whatever reason the dog was obsessed with birds, he could say "where's the bird" and the dog would systematically go outside and scan the trees looking for one, and then stay staring at it until he acknowledged it. How you teach a dog that, I have no clue, but she learned.

[I. Hustle]

:lol Don't flatter yourself, not mad at all. Just asked you a question.

That's how it always starts. The first question is ALWAYS "Have you ever owned a pit?".

[DJR210]

That's how it always starts. The first question is ALWAYS "Have you ever owned a pit?".

I'm skilled in the art of trolling, hard to get mad online when you piss people off purposely yourself.

[DMC]

If you get a smart enough breed and have a doggie door; we've found that they truly aren't as much work as we were concerned about. The reward is much bigger than the work, imo.

Except you have to make sure your fence is dog proof, get the shots, fix the issues, feed the dog, clean up the shit, watch it die. No thanks.

[Spur|n|Austin]

Except you have to make sure your fence is dog proof, get the shots, fix the issues, feed the dog, clean up the shit, watch it die. No thanks.

:lol watch it die. I truly dread that day thought but :lol

[m>s]

Except you have to make sure your fence is dog proof, get the shots, fix the issues, feed the dog, clean up the shit, watch it die. No thanks.

same thing with wives

[DMC]

same thing with wives

Depends on which side of the border you get them from.

[m>s]

it's nothing but be@ners on both sides now tbh

[Skull-1]

Shetland Sheepdog, Doberman Pincher, German Shepherd

[xmas1997]

According to AVMA (veterinarians) as well as most canine trainers the 10 smartest dogs are:
10. Australian Cattle Dog
9. Rottweiler
8. The Papillon
7. Labrador Retriever
6. Shetland Sheepdog
5. Doberman Pinscher
4. Golden Retriever
3. German Shepherd
2. Poodle
1. Border Collie

[cantthinkofanything]

According to AVMA (veterinarians) as well as most canine trainers the 10 smartest dogs are:
10. Australian Cattle Dog
9. Rottweiler
8. The Papillon
7. Labrador Retriever
6. Shetland Sheepdog
5. Doberman Pinscher
4. Golden Retriever
3. German Shepherd
2. Poodle
1. Border Collie

Funny they decided to split the Labrador Retriever into 2 groups. The Black coming in lower than the Golden.

[xmas1997]

Funny they decided to split the Labrador Retriever into 2 groups. The Black coming in lower than the Golden.

Those are two separate breeds. The Lab has short hair and comes in the usual colors of black, yellow, and chocolate as well as the colors unrecognized by the AKC of white, sandy, red, silver, and bi-point.
The Golden has long hair and comes in it various shades of gold.

[cantthinkofanything]

Those are two separate breeds. The Lab has short hair and comes in the usual colors of black, yellow, and chocolate as well as the colors unrecognized by the AKC of white, sandy, red, silver, and bi-point.
The Golden has long hair and comes in it various shades of gold.

ah...thanks for the explanation.

That makes sense now. So I'm assuming when they put the Labrador Retriever in the top 10, they mean the Yellow version.

[FkLA]

Yall niggas should post pics of your dogs tbh.

[xmas1997]

ah...thanks for the explanation.

That makes sense now. So I'm assuming when they put the Labrador Retriever in the top 10, they mean the Yellow version.

No, any color can represent the breed, color does not determine intelligence, nor does sex. The black Lab is just the most common with yellow being almost as common, and the chocolate being the rarer color followed by the other colors I already mentioned.
You have black, then yellow, then chocolate, then sandy, white, red, silver, and bi-point.

[cantthinkofanything]

No, any color can represent the breed, color does not determine intelligence, nor does sex. The black Lab is just the most common with yellow being almost as common, and the chocolate being the rarer color followed by the other colors I already mentioned.
You have black, then yellow, then chocolate, then sandy, white, red, silver, and bi-point.

hmmm...this contradicts logic...I'll think on it some more

[xmas1997]

hmmm...this contradicts logic...I'll think on it some more

How so?
Why should the color of a dogs hair determine the dogs intelligence as a breed as a whole?
Color does not determine intelligence in any breed of canine.

[leemajors]

They say labradoodles are quickly becoming the best and most popular breed.
However, Labrador retrievers are presently the most popular.

I've actually been seeing more and more standard poodles around Austin recently, they are good dogs in my experience. Probably a bit much on the grooming side for my tastes, tho.

[cantthinkofanything]

How so?
Why should the color of a dogs hair determine the dogs intelligence as a breed as a whole?
Color does not determine intelligence in any breed of canine.

no...color does not determine intelligence but...certain physical characteristics could be more prevalent in a breed that was less intelligent

[The Reckoning]

Those are two separate breeds. The Lab has short hair and comes in the usual colors of black, yellow, and chocolate as well as the colors unrecognized by the AKC of white, sandy, red, silver, and bi-point.
The Golden has long hair and comes in it various shades of gold.


he's the worst troll on the site. really, he fucking sucks at what he does. ignore him and he might go away and do something worthwhile with his life like take out my trash.

[Marius Titulescu]

Well, to be fair the whole premise is also quite outrageos.
Can't imagine ever objectively deciding what the best dog breed is.
____________________
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[Millennial_Messiah]

beagle, chihuahua, mini dachshund

ie the ones who look crazy cute as puppies and don't get overwhelmingly big and won't muck up your house... most of the time

[SpursforSix]

Mutts for the win.

[The Gemini Method]

I'm considering another dog. Our corgi lived to be 16 and we had to put him down in the beginning of 2021 due to cancer. Not sure what breed yet, but Border Collie is on the list for sure.

[Millennial_Messiah]

I don't like big dogs... At all

[Millennial_Messiah]

Mutts for the win.

that's an abstract answer

[koriwhat]

Xolo's are great dogs but very territorial and protective of the small circle they love. Hairless too so if you have allergies they're pretty good for that.

Another loving breed are those small Italian Greyhounds.

[pgardn]

Australian Shepard

The only one I have ever had that so badly wants to do the right thing and cocks his head while trying to learn my language, symbols and habits.
I have never had any dog so wanting to please the owner. And if smart is listening to commands and learning them quickly, these guys are amazing.
We have like 15 stuffed animals for him to beat up he knows the names of all of them. We have to spell words out so he wont get to excited like D-O-G P-A-R-K.

But... a lot of fur.
A lot of energy. suggested for young families. Also suggested you have access to a ranch or field.
A tremendous amount of fun. And unlike this dog's predecessors, the border collie, lower energy and they dont want to be given only one task and repeat the same thing over and over.
These guys love Obstacle or agility courses and they want them changed. They like new things to do. They thrive on new experiences and puzzles. This one also loves swimming (is not so good at swimming, their hair is not oily and acts like a mop.)

If you like energy and a dog who wants to explore and is highly intelligent to human language and signals, this is the dog.

By far the most interactive dog I have ever been around (my family as a child went through a number of dogs.)
This guy replaced our mut that died and was also a great dog, but not near as human like.

[leemajors]

Australian Shepard

The only one I have ever had that so badly wants to do the right thing and cocks his head while trying to learn my language, symbols and habits.
I have never had any dog so wanting to please the owner. And if smart is listening to commands and learning them quickly, these guys are amazing.
We have like 15 stuffed animals for him to beat up he knows the names of all of them. We have to spell words out so he wont get to excited like D-O-G P-A-R-K.

But... a lot of fur.
A lot of energy. suggested for young families. Also suggested you have access to a ranch or field.
A tremendous amount of fun. And unlike this dog's predecessors, the border collie, lower energy and they dont want to be given only one task and repeat the same thing over and over.
These guys love Obstacle or agility courses and they want them changed. They like new things to do. They thrive on new experiences and puzzles. This one also loves swimming (is not so good at swimming, their hair is not oily and acts like a mop.)

If you like energy and a dog who wants to explore and is highly intelligent to human language and signals, this is the dog.

By far the most interactive dog I have ever been around (my family as a child went through a number of dogs.)
This guy replaced our mut that died and was also a great dog, but not near as human like.

I had a roommate who had one, he would just shave her down a few times in the summer. I prefer lab mixes myself, throwing the ball for the dog is fun, and they can swim very well (usually)

[Xevious]

beagle, chihuahua, mini dachshund

ie the ones who look crazy cute as puppies and don't get overwhelmingly big and won't muck up your house... most of the time

I have a Chihuahua/dachshund/rat terrier mix and I can tell you from him and other smaller dogs I've known over the years that smaller breeds are generally more anxiety-ridden, aggressive (to strangers), harder to house break, and noisy than larger breeds.

[Millennial_Messiah]

I have a Chihuahua/dachshund/rat terrier mix and I can tell you from him and other smaller dogs I've known over the years that smaller breeds are generally more anxiety-ridden, aggressive (to strangers), harder to house break, and noisy than larger breeds.
not untrue, but big dogs in the house just annoy the fuck outta me. They stink, they shed, they chew up things. A black great dane literally knocked me backward into the floor one time at a friend's house a few months before covid. Don't think Bruce was trying to be aggressive, just friendly, but the force just pushed my 135 pound body ass-backward. Big dogs have a purpose though, get 2-3 of them to guard your mansion/ mini mansion, they make an excellent first line of defense.

[Chucho]

We bought Samson last January. He's a mastidoodle- mastiff/poodle mix. They have less energy than golden doodles, easier to manager brushing, super loving and protective of their people so they're great guard dogs. Not gonna say they're the "best breed" but very fun, loving and a little easier to maintain than some of the more energetic doodle breeds (not saying they're lazy do-nothings, he LOVES running and being outdoors, just more mellow and easier to maintain). Much better than our senior mini pinscher and our middle age shih tzu.

Samson is silver with shades of black on his paws and tail, so he's a real head turner at the dog park. Only drawback is they can totally take over your bed and it's a struggle sometimes because they just really, really love their people. They call the mastidoodle the "teddy bear of doodles" due to their affinity to always wanna cuddle. But, they forget very easily how big they are.

Overall, awesome dogs.

[koriwhat]

Another good one is a Heeler of any color but the red heeler is the one I was around the most. Great dog for families and guarding the house. They shed like hell though and are super hyper.