Are People Being Unfair to the House Republicans?

[ElNono]

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2013/01/are-people-being-unfair-to-the-house-republicans/266858/

Interesting read, IMO.

[Wild Cobra]

I read the first couple paragraph. So what? They recognize we are in a fiscal crisis and can't spend money unwisely. I'm not going to criticize them for that.

[boutons_deux]

Many of the House Repugs are in office ONLY because of gerrymandering.

The Repugs CAUSED THE DEFICIT, TRIPLED under dubya, DOUBLED under St Ronnie who switched the US from tax and spend to BORROW and spend, with their gratuitous military buildups, Stars War fantasies, 2 botched wars costing $2T, tax cutting (no economic or jobs gained), Medicare Advantage, Medicare Part D, financial misgovernment and deregulation. The USA has a REPUG revenue problem, not a DEM spending problem.

U N F A I R ? :lol

[Winehole23]

They recognize we are in a fiscal crisiswhat crisis?

agreed there's a problem that needs fixing, but what exactly makes the situation a crisis? rhetoric from debt/deficit scolds like yourself seems a bit overcooked.

[boutons_deux]

WH, agreed, there is no "fiscal crisis".

It's just another Repug/VRWC fabricated distraction in their war on the FDR/LBJ social safety net (medicare, medicaid, SS, unemployment insurance), to ratchet down govt spending with the sole objective of coming back later with more "starve the beast" tax cuts for the 1% and corps, with much smaller crumbs for the 99% to buy their sheeple-ish, compliant somnolence.

[Winehole23]

when did the GOP ever ratchet down federal spending? one example will do.

[boutons_deux]

when did the GOP ever ratchet down federal spending? one example will do.

agreed, neither did, other than lip service( aka sucking off their VRWC masters).

St Ronnie doubled and dubya tripled the national debt, and neither made a dent in govt size.

So what's up now? nothing but fabricated crisis (all national polls show jobs and the economy are more important to The American People than the deficit, debt) to try to get Barry to do what the Repugs have failed to do.

If they can do that, they will blame all the widespread anger and resentment THEIR austerity will cause 100% on the Dems in 2016, just like they blame THEIR Banksters' Great Depression, THEIR jobs crisis, etc on Barry.

[Oh, Gee!!]

I read the first couple paragraph. So what? They recognize we are in a fiscal crisis and can't spend money unwisely. I'm not going to criticize them for that.

That's because you're an idiot

[ElNono]

I just thought it was interesting the chatter about the internal tensions there, coming from a guy that was an integral part of the last Congress...

When the Tea Party faction of the GOP was rising, the question was whether it would strengthen or fracture the party, and some of the accounts there paint a picture of the latter. The question going forward is if this 'going rogue' faction is going to be quashed or if they're going to grow, and how does Boehner keeps everyone in line.

[mercos]

House Republicans played politics with the debt ceiling, causing our credit rating to be lowered for the first time in history. They deserve every bit of ridicule they get.

[Wild Cobra]

what crisis?

agreed there's a problem that needs fixing, but what exactly makes the situation a crisis? rhetoric from debt/deficit scolds like yourself seems a bit overcooked.
Ok, I'll concede it's mostly rhetoric. We can probably still borrow for some time before we pass a tipping point of no return, but I, myself, do not wish to test that tipping point.

I find both parties at fault for not having the integrity to do what is right for this nation. That said, I still see the republicans as the lesser of two evils. My predictions are nothing but death of this nation, as we know it. I believe democrats will just take us there faster than republicans. I wish I had a solution, but it eludes me. Don't get me wrong, what needs to be done doesn't elude me. It's how to make it happen that eludes me.

[Wild Cobra]

House Republicans played politics with the debt ceiling, causing our credit rating to be lowered for the first time in history. They deserve every bit of ridicule they get.
Well, I say it's about time the credit rating gets lowered. It should probably be even lower.

[boutons_deux]

"tipping point of no return"

bogus scare-mongering concept. what would your bogus tipping point look like?

"credit rating to be lowered for the first time in history"

Only one agency did it, and the credit rating agencies are controlled/corrupted by the financial sector. It was a pure show of power how the "markets" (financial sector) control the country. There was and is no chance of USA defaulting on its financial obligations. The Repug deficit attack dogs were called off by the corporate/financial sector last week.

And we're still waiting for the "hyper inflation" that was scare-mongered 4 YEARS AGO to appear. 2% or below is what we've had and what "they say" we'll have for years to come.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Well, I say it's about time the credit rating gets lowered. It should probably be even lower.

Yeha that makes sense. When we have always paid our bills on time and have the capability of doing so, it should probably be lowered. Pole rack yourself please.

[George Gervin's Afro]

what crisis?

agreed there's a problem that needs fixing, but what exactly makes the situation a crisis? rhetoric from debt/deficit scolds like yourself seems a bit overcooked.

Bill O'Reilly differs.. he was almost in tears last night poor guy..

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I don't think his inclination is to punish people. But I have to tell you, I don't know how he does it. You look at the very beginning of the last Congress, H.R. 1, the omnibus, there were hundreds of amendments from the stupid to the sublime. One was offered to defund the president's teleprompter. Another was to defund the electrical upgrades needed to bring the White House up to code. But Boehner's deal was, OK, go for it, let people participate. There was an expectation that, given the opportunity to improve the bill, they would then vote for the bill. But beginning with that bill there have been 20 to 50 members who will make adjustments to the bill that guarantee you're not going to get one Democrat to vote for it, and then they still vote against the bill themselves and deny Boehner the 218 votes he needs to bargain with.

Two party system and our electorate brought to you by the House of Representatives.

[Th'Pusher]

Well, I say it's about time the credit rating gets lowered. It should probably be even lower.
The credit rating agencies are impotent. S&P downgraded the US credit rating and interest rates just continued to drop because there is still no safer place to put your money than with the US government.