Official Beginning of Liberal Progressive Era in America?

[spursncowboys]

With President Obama finally open about his overtly liberal POV and America reacting with extremely positive numbers.

With Hilary Clinton looking to take the mantle in four years and just as liberal....



Is this the beginning of the first real Progressively Liberal Era in America?

[George Gervin's Afro]

Clinton isn't a progressive

[spursncowboys]

What is the reason for this?

Media with it's Thirty years of pushing a more liberal view point?

Debt, from a large amount of the right dismissing both parties?

America as a whole tired of policing the world (I remember Bush getting a large amount of votes in 2000 with his anti nation building rhetoric)?

Generation after generation of people coming to expect more and more "help" from the Federal government?

Violent video games?

[Th'Pusher]

New Nationalism, new deal, new frontier and the great society would like to meet you SnC.

[Th'Pusher]

What is the reason for this?

Media with it's Thirty years of pushing a more liberal view point?

Debt, from a large amount of the right dismissing both parties?

America as a whole tired of policing the world (I remember Bush getting a large amount of votes in 2000 with his anti nation building rhetoric)?

Generation after generation of people coming to expect more and more "help" from the Federal government?

Violent video games?
Cyclical. Republicans have been steadily marching right word and are now having to be pulled back like a dog on a chain.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Roger Ailes dominates the news nowadays and he is hardly liberal. It's fun to act like Fox News hasn't been the most significant US media development in the last 50 years but it is what it is.

Its not so much that the Dems are doing anything as it is the GOP is a clusterfuck. There are about 2 dozen Norquist scions that are fucking the GOP up and making them look like fools. As such the Democrats are benefiting while Boehner looks the fool. The Dems by and large are hardly progressive. They have many shard interests as the GOP because of who pays for their elections.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Cyclical. Republicans have been steadily marching right word and are now having to be pulled back like a dog on a chain.

The cycle was 70 or so years.

1865 - 1928 saw the GOP dominate. 1929 - 1994 saw the Democrats in control. Since then its been a see saw but if the GOP keeps this up they'll be going back to 1929. Too much Herbert Hoover ineptness going on in the GOP nowadays.

[boutons_deux]

With President Obama finally open about his overtly liberal POV and America reacting with extremely positive numbers.

With Hilary Clinton looking to take the mantle in four years and just as liberal....

Is this the beginning of the first real Progressively Liberal Era in America?

I support all the PROGRESS that Barry SAID yesterday, but we know he won't get ALL of it done, or even ANY of it.

The Repugs control the House and SCOTUS, so extremism and obstructionism and Scalia-troll's false "originalism" have the power to stop all progress. The Repugs have used the 2010 census to gerrymander themselves into safe seats, and are planning to use that gerrymandering in tandem with proportional allocation of electoral votes to try to overcome their demographic disaster of being the party of racists, xenophobes, 1%, BigBusiness, older white, ignorant, low-wage rural males.

[Winehole23]

The Repugs control the House and SCOTUS, so extremism and obstructionism and Scalia-troll's false "originalism" have the power to stop all progress.it's your position, then, that Obama's first term was distinguished by zero progressive accomplishments?

[coyotes_geek]

I don't see any difference between the last 4 years and the previous 8, so this isn't the beginning of anything.

[Warlord23]

I don't see any difference between the last 4 years and the previous 8, so this isn't the beginning of anything.

[ChumpDumper]

False premise.

[DarrinS]

Only 1460 days to go

[ChumpDumper]

Only 1460 days to go:cry America held hostage :cry

[Clipper Nation]

Cyclical. Republicans have been steadily marching right word and are now having to be pulled back like a dog on a chain.
I don't see it, really.... what I see is both parties slowly becoming pretty nuch the same... same wasteful spending, same nation-building, same liberty-trampling, all in an effort to sway as many "moderate" voters as necessary to maintain power....

[DarrinS]

:cry America held hostage :cry


Meh, only libs use the "hostage" schtick.

[ChumpDumper]

Meh, only libs use the "hostage" schtick.Sorry, that was Rush Limbaugh's show opener for years.

Darrin fails.

[DarrinS]

Sorry, that was Rush Limbaugh's show opener for years.

Darrin fails.


Mj60GKsI-Pc

[ChumpDumper]

Darrin presses on, relying on his tired YouTube tactic. Still unable to lose the taint of his initial failure.

[George Gervin's Afro]

Only 1460 days to go

to go for what?

[DarrinS]

Darrin presses on, relying on his tired YouTube tactic. Still unable to lose the taint of his initial failure.


Chump listened to Rush Limbaugh, for years.

[DarrinS]

to go for what?

Really?

[ChumpDumper]

Chump listened to Rush Limbaugh, for years.Darrin tries to reverse the whip, with no success.

I probably still would if Alex Jones wasn't on at the same time. More entertaining tbh.

[Winehole23]

the journalistic patter related to the inaugural speech reflects the theme in the thread title, fwiw. there are like four or five headlines to this effect on RCP alone.

[boutons_deux]

With Tax Advantages Looking Shaky, Private Equity Seeks a New Path

As Washington grapples with the country's fiscal woes, the private equity industry is grudgingly facing a new reality: its long-held tax advantages are likely to disappear.

For years, private equity has quashed efforts to raise taxes on so-called carried interest income, the profits partners receive as part of their compensation. Those earnings are considered capital gains, so they are taxed at a much lower rate than ordinary income.


While few concede defeat publicly, the industry is rethinking its strategy. Rather than trying to stop the changes outright, lawyers and executives behind the scenes are trying to minimize the hit if it happens.
Private equity recognizes the shifting politics. In the current budget debate, sacred cows like the tax deductions for home mortgage interest and charitable donations are on the table, along with potential cuts to Social Security and Medicare.
"Once they start looking for revenues, carried interest will be on the list,"

Democrats and Republicans alike are looking at eliminating loopholes as part of a broader effort to overhaul the tax code. Changes to the treatment of carried interest could bring in $17 billion over 10 years,

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2013/01/21/blogs/with-tax-advantages-looking-shaky-private-equity-seeks-a-new-path.xml?f=19

iow, without killing the loophole, p/e mgmt would pocket $17B over next 10 years.

[Winehole23]

it's your position, then, that Obama's first term was distinguished by zero progressive accomplishments?

[Winehole23]

if not, how can it credibly be maintained that further progress is made impossible by the mere existence of the Republican Party?

[boutons_deux]

Huge progress would be an Executive Order to move mj from Schedule 1 to 5.

[Winehole23]

not gonna happen

[boutons_deux]

http://www.alternet.org/files/styles/story_image/public/story_images/obamainauspscreen_shot_2013-01-21_at_12.13.53_pm.png

12 Ways Obama Smacked Down the Tea Party and the Right in Inauguration Speech

1. Reminding the nation who won the Civil War.

2. Reminding the nation of the history of the civil rights movement.

3. Reclaiming the founding documents for liberalism.

4. Throwing right-wing rhetoric right back at ‘em

5. Actually, you really didn’t build that

6. Tearing von Mises (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ludwig_von_Mises) to pieces.

7. Calling out the climate-change deniers with a call to action

8. Spanish is the loving tongue, amigos

9. Making the moral, patriotic case for the social safety net and against poverty.

10. Asserting the moral imperative of gay rights

11. Calling for equal pay for women.

12. Shining a light on voter suppression.

http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/12-ways-obama-smacked-down-tea-party-and-right-inauguration-speech

[coyotes_geek]

:lmao

[Winehole23]

what ever happened to the skittish hedge fund managers? I wanted to hear how that one's supposed to end . . .

[CosmicCowboy]

http://www.alternet.org/files/styles/story_image/public/story_images/obamainauspscreen_shot_2013-01-21_at_12.13.53_pm.png

12 Ways Obama Smacked Down the Tea Party and the Right in Inauguration Speech

1. Reminding the nation who won the Civil War.

2. Reminding the nation of the history of the civil rights movement.

3. Reclaiming the founding documents for liberalism.

4. Throwing right-wing rhetoric right back at ‘em

5. Actually, you really didn’t build that

6. Tearing von Mises (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ludwig_von_Mises) to pieces.

7. Calling out the climate-change deniers with a call to action

8. Spanish is the loving tongue, amigos

9. Making the moral, patriotic case for the social safety net and against poverty.

10. Asserting the moral imperative of gay rights

11. Calling for equal pay for women.

12. Shining a light on voter suppression.

http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/12-ways-obama-smacked-down-tea-party-and-right-inauguration-speech

*yawn*

Posturing for Legacy Points.

[TeyshaBlue]

Should've been called 12 things He aint gonna do shit about.

[TeyshaBlue]

lol alternet.

[cheguevara]

the only liberal part is where drones will have the "liberty" to shoot any "enemy" they please

:lmao "progressive liberal" era where you get molested everytime you go to the airport

[coyotes_geek]

*yawn*

Posturing for Legacy Points.


Should've been called 12 things He aint gonna do shit about.

It's the presidential equivalent of boutons claiming to have bitchslapped someone....

[Clipper Nation]

http://www.alternet.org/files/styles/story_image/public/story_images/obamainauspscreen_shot_2013-01-21_at_12.13.53_pm.png

12 Ways Obama Smacked Down the Tea Party and the Right in Inauguration Speech

1. Reminding the nation who won the Civil War.

2. Reminding the nation of the history of the civil rights movement.

3. Reclaiming the founding documents for liberalism.

4. Throwing right-wing rhetoric right back at ‘em

5. Actually, you really didn’t build that

6. Tearing von Mises (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ludwig_von_Mises) to pieces.

7. Calling out the climate-change deniers with a call to action

8. Spanish is the loving tongue, amigos

9. Making the moral, patriotic case for the social safety net and against poverty.

10. Asserting the moral imperative of gay rights

11. Calling for equal pay for women.

12. Shining a light on voter suppression.

http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/12-ways-obama-smacked-down-tea-party-and-right-inauguration-speech
Translation: "12 Bullshit Political Talking Points"

Mindless consumers such as yourself are what the two-party system depends on, so if you really want change, you need to grow a spine and try some critical thinking for once in your life, B....

[boutons_deux]

**** Nation! :lol

[z0sa]

Progressive liberalism, as in, progress towards being more and more like Orwellian Oceania? Almost everything Obama said reeked of doublethink IMHO. Especially denying we are in a perpetual war with no end in sight, by saying the era of war over/within measurable distance of its end.

[Winehole23]

missed that part. can you point it out?

I see the part where Obama says 10 years of war is at an end. is that the part you mean?

[TeyshaBlue]

Progressive liberalism, as in, progress towards being more and more like Orwellian Oceania? Almost everything Obama said reeked of doublethink IMHO. Especially denying we are in a perpetual war with no end in sight, by saying the era of war over/within measurable distance of its end.

newspeak is the Orwellian term.

[boutons_deux]

not gonna happen

Marijuana Arrests Now Exceed Arrests For Violent Crime

http://nationalmemo.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/0116marijuana_crime_arrests.pnghttp://www.nationalmemo.com/marijuana-arrests-now-exceed-arrests-for-violent-crime/

War on Drugs is a racist business for the PIC.

[Winehole23]

don't count on Obama to wind it down, is all I'm sayin. Has he done it so far?

[Winehole23]

results, according to the graph, aren't overwhelming

[Winehole23]

eh

[The Reckoning]

international pressure tbh. everyone is obsessed with US policies and therefore wants us to be more social such as contemporary Europe. i read a study that polled who internationals would vote for in the presidential election of 2008, and it was something like 85% overwhelmingly would vote Obama.

from my viewpoint in meeting people overseas, "republican" is synonymous with "backward."

[boutons_deux]

"republican" is synonymous with "backward."

Foreigners have a much more accurate take on USA than Human-Americans sheeple dumbed down by TV, bad food, and corporate/political propaganda.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Is calling George Bush a liberal the new Republican strategy?

[boutons_deux]

Americans Overwhelmingly Want Feds to Let States Move Forward With Marijuana Legalization (http://justsaynow.firedoglake.com/2013/02/01/americans-overwhelmingly-want-feds-to-let-states-move-forward-with-marijuana-legalization/)


http://static1.firedoglake.com/1/files/2012/11/homegrown-224x300.jpg

Regular Americans overwhelmingly see marijuana legalization as a states’ rights issue and do not want the federal government to interfere with the will of the electorate in either state.

A new Reason-Rupe Public Opinion (http://reason.com/assets/db/13595247617339.pdf) poll found a majority of Americans do not want federal resources used to inhibit any aspects of the new legal marijuana system in these two states. The poll found 72 percent don’t want the federal government to arrest
people for using marijuana in these states, while only 24 percent want federal law enforcement deployment.

Similarly, the poll found 68 percent don’t want the feds arresting people for growing marijuana and 64 percent don’t even want the feds to arrest people for selling marijuana. As long as individual are following state law they should be left alone.

http://justsaynow.firedoglake.com/2013/02/01/americans-overwhelmingly-want-feds-to-let-states-move-forward-with-marijuana-legalization/

Come on, Barry, you old toker, DO IT.

Drop mj from Schedule I to Schedule V, if not fully decriminalized.

[mavs>spurs]

Progressive liberalism, as in, progress towards being more and more like Orwellian Oceania? Almost everything Obama said reeked of doublethink IMHO. Especially denying we are in a perpetual war with no end in sight, by saying the era of war over/within measurable distance of its end.
Join us comrade, it is time for the two minutes hate.

[Winehole23]

you're the cheerleader. figures.

[boutons_deux]

U.S. Drug Czar: Federal Prosecutors Will Go After Washington And Colorado Marijuana Distributors

Q: In the November elections, two states—Washington and Colorado—voted to legalize marijuana for recreational use. President Obama has said that the U.S. government has “bigger fish to fry” than to go after recreational users in states where it is legal. Where do things stand with regard to producers and distributors of marijuana, which is still illegal under federal law?


A: You’ll continue to see enforcement against distributors and large-scale growers as the Justice Department has outlined. They will use their limited resources on those groups and not on going after individual users.

The threat of not only shutdown, but harsh federal mandatory minimum jail sentences of ten years just for marijuana distribution — and as high as 85 years if other associated charges are lobbed on – would no doubt have a chilling effect on the recreational marijuana industry, and thwart state efforts to experiment with new approaches to achieving public health and safety goals in the wake of the failed War on Drugs. It remains to be seen, however, whether federal agents would make significant use of their prosecutorial discretion, or merely retain the right to prosecute in very limited circumstances.


http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2013/02/12/1581561/us-drug-czar-federal-prosecutors-will-go-after-washington-and-colorado-marijuana-distributors/

[Vladimir Lenin]

Americans Overwhelmingly Want Feds to Let States Move Forward With Marijuana Legalization (http://justsaynow.firedoglake.com/2013/02/01/americans-overwhelmingly-want-feds-to-let-states-move-forward-with-marijuana-legalization/)


http://static1.firedoglake.com/1/files/2012/11/homegrown-224x300.jpg

Regular Americans overwhelmingly see marijuana legalization as a states’ rights issue and do not want the federal government to interfere with the will of the electorate in either state.

A new Reason-Rupe Public Opinion (http://reason.com/assets/db/13595247617339.pdf) poll found a majority of Americans do not want federal resources used to inhibit any aspects of the new legal marijuana system in these two states. The poll found 72 percent don’t want the federal government to arrest
people for using marijuana in these states, while only 24 percent want federal law enforcement deployment.

Similarly, the poll found 68 percent don’t want the feds arresting people for growing marijuana and 64 percent don’t even want the feds to arrest people for selling marijuana. As long as individual are following state law they should be left alone.

http://justsaynow.firedoglake.com/2013/02/01/americans-overwhelmingly-want-feds-to-let-states-move-forward-with-marijuana-legalization/

Come on, Barry, you old toker, DO IT.

Drop mj from Schedule I to Schedule V, if not fully decriminalized.



Obama is making America so Marxist as I see it.

[z0sa]

newspeak is the Orwellian term.

Thanks. Like 1984 so eloquently relates, perhaps one day we will all be safe from thoughtcrime thanks to Newspeak.

[z0sa]

Join us comrade, it is time for the two minutes hate.

Who doesn't hate evil terrorists? And really, couldn't anyone be a terrorist?