Sandy Hook Hand Guns

[2centsworth]

Looks like hand guns were used in what most describe as the worst mass shooting in our history.

http://video.today.msnbc.msn.com/today/50208495#50208495

[Drachen]

Looks like hand guns were used in what most describe as the worst mass shooting in our history.

http://video.today.msnbc.msn.com/today/50208495#50208495

Possibly, but other things reported that day were that he killed his mom in her kindergarten class, that his brother was the killer....

[SA210]

Looks like hand guns were used in what most describe as the worst mass shooting in our history.

http://video.today.msnbc.msn.com/today/50208495#50208495

boom

[2centsworth]

On the day of any tragedy there's a lot of misreporting, but usually they sort through it.

[Drachen]

On the day of any tragedy there's a lot of misreporting, but usually they sort through it.

Yep same happened here. That video is from Dec 15

[2centsworth]

are you saying it wasn't hand guns?

[ElNono]

drones, possibly...

[Drachen]

I'm saying that the coroner's report stayed that every child was killed with an assault rifle

[TSA]

Looks like hand guns were used in what most describe as the worst mass shooting in our history.

http://video.today.msnbc.msn.com/today/50208495#50208495i fell for the same thing. I'm still waiting for the official results, the coroners initial interview seemed rather strange.

[ChumpDumper]

They're still translating the documents!

[spursncowboys]

I'm saying that the coroner's report stayed that every child was killed with an assault rifle
Do you have the link to that?

[ChumpDumper]

Srsly, this will not die.

[DarrinS]

Was it because of a protest, or was it because of guys out for a walk one night who decided they’d go kill some Americans? What difference, at this point, does it make?

[ChumpDumper]

Was it because of a protest, or was it because of guys out for a walk one night who decided they’d go kill some Americans? What difference, at this point, does it make?Good question, tbh.

Care to answer it?

[DMC]

drones, possibly...
el oh el

[DMC]

i fell for the same thing. I'm still waiting for the official results, the coroners initial interview seemed rather strange.

.223 rounds in a handgun? Hardly. .22 perhaps, but if a coroner reports .223 wounds, that's not a handgun.

[spursncowboys]

.223 rounds in a handgun? Hardly. .22 perhaps, but if a coroner reports .223 wounds, that's not a handgun.
You're putting alot of faith on a coroner who probably never dealt with a .223 or a 5.56.

[ChumpDumper]

You're putting alot of faith on a coroner who probably never dealt with a .223 or a 5.56.You have got to be fucking kidding me.

[spursncowboys]

ChumpDumper: Care to elaborate

[ChumpDumper]

ChumpDumper: Care to elaborateYes. I find difficult to accept the possibility that the medical examiner and the police department and whatever other investigative body involved would make such a fundamental error in determining the weapons and ammo used.

I ask you how you to elaborate how you think they could all make the mistake you think is possible.

[Latarian Milton]

handguns are easier concealed but can still inflict fatal harms to innocent people who're totally unarmed.

[TSA]

.223 rounds in a handgun? Hardly. .22 perhaps, but if a coroner reports .223 wounds, that's not a handgun.

No. I was talking about the video I saw that said four handguns were used. Not about .223 rounds. My mention of the coroner being weird was about his demeanor in the interview, not what he reported

[Viva Las Espuelas]

Srsly, this will not die.

[ChumpDumper]

You're putting alot of faith on a coroner who probably never dealt with a .223 or a 5.56.You have got to be fucking kidding me.

[2centsworth]

I feel like I got rick rolled with the video. the debate continues...

[Wild Cobra]

You're putting alot of faith on a coroner who probably never dealt with a .223 or a 5.56.
Well, a normal or long 22 will do far less damage than the 223. The entry hole will be the same size, but there is a good chance that the 223 will exit and leave a large exit hole, while the 22 will likely stay in the body.

[Wild Cobra]

Yes. I find difficult to accept the possibility that the medical examiner and the police department and whatever other investigative body involved would make such a fundamental error in determining the weapons and ammo used.

I ask you how you to elaborate how you think they could all make the mistake you think is possible.
This is a time I agree with Chump.

[Wild Cobra]

No. I was talking about the video I saw that said four handguns were used. Not about .223 rounds. My mention of the coroner being weird was about his demeanor in the interview, not what he reported
I think someone is making the 223 stuff up. I really doubt the coroner said such a thing.

[DMC]

No. I was talking about the video I saw that said four handguns were used. Not about .223 rounds. My mention of the coroner being weird was about his demeanor in the interview, not what he reported

I was just reflecting back to a report I heard that said the wounds were caused by .223 rounds. All one need do is walk through the school. .223 would be in the walls and surely there were spent casings as I doubt he collected them.

[DMC]

You're putting alot of faith on a coroner who probably never dealt with a .223 or a 5.56.

They are the same round.

[CosmicCowboy]

They are the same round.

Not necessarily. Similar but different. You can shoot .223 ammo in a 5.56 but shouldn't shoot 5.56 ammo in a .223.

[Wild Cobra]

Not necessarily. Similar but different. You can shoot .223 ammo in a 5.56 but shouldn't shoot 5.56 ammo in a .223.
Thanks. I learned something new. There are some minor differences, but I also read looking for this that some .223'" are designed to shoot 5.56 mm as well.

http://weaponsman.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/556cham.gif

[CosmicCowboy]

On a .223 Remington spec rifle, the throat will be 0.085”. This is the standard described by SAAMI. The throat in a 5.56 NATO spec rifle is 0.162”, or almost double the throat length of the .223. The problem comes when you ram a 5.56 into a shorter throat .223 and the bullet is pressed into the rifling instead of sitting in the smooth throat like it is supposed to. This can create excessive back pressure when fired that can swell or rupture bullet cases

[mouse]

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[Woo Bum-kon]

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So, do you think the government secretly murdered all those people and set up Lanza as a fall guy?

[mouse]

I haven't done enough research To say just yet just sharing another point of view

[boutons_deux]

"just sharing another point of view"\

no, you're slinging pure shit, and you know it.

[DMC]

Not necessarily. Similar but different. You can shoot .223 ammo in a 5.56 but shouldn't shoot 5.56 ammo in a .223.

This is a myth. The pressure differences in those chambers are negligible, even sometimes lower for the .223 chamber than the 5.56 when firing 5.56. Though you should shoot the round that the barrel is chambered for, the 5.56 will not blow up the barrel of a .223.

[DMC]

As noted above, the two rounds are basically the same round. If you hand loaded and loaded one hotter than the next, you still have the same round. A .223 hole is a .223 hole, and a coroner wouldn't use his pinky to tell the difference, there are scientific methods for this procedure and he doesn't need to be personally familiar with the round itself.

[ChumpDumper]

I haven't done enough research To say just yet just sharing another point of viewOK, then you won't mind my telling you it's full of shit since I did enough research.

[mouse]

"just sharing another point of view"\

no, you're slinging pure shit, and you know it.



isn't that what this forum does 24/7 am I at the wrong forum? sorry i was looking for ST politics forum where the shit slingers compete with each other on a daily basis, this is not it? am I in the Club? God forbid anyone sling some shit in that forum.

[mouse]

OK, then you won't mind my telling you it's full of shit since I did enough research.

Not really if you can back it as I have already done. go ahead and Google your ass in Debunk purgatory until you think you found something

but at least find it first if not then it's only your words and lately you have been exposed.

[Woo Bum-kon]

I haven't done enough research To say just yet just sharing another point of view

What makes you think that point of view is worth sharing?

[ChumpDumper]

Not really if you can back it as I have already done.Back what? You said you haven't done enough research to even form an opinion, much less back one.

[mouse]

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[SA210]

tM5ZdO-IgEE


What happened to Anderson Coopers nose?



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTourCr4ENI

[ChumpDumper]

Oh, I get it.

Cooper was chroma keyed, therefore -- SANDY HOOK WUZ A INSIDE JERB!

Memeboy has it all sussed out.

[mouse]

Oh, I get it.

Cooper was chroma keyed, therefore -- SANDY HOOK WUZ A INSIDE JERB!

Memeboy has it all sussed out.


That truth enema can be uncomfortable when your not ready for it.

I can understand your bitterness.

[ChumpDumper]

That truth enema can be uncomfortable when your not ready for it.

I can understand your bitterness.What truth?

What are you saying really happened at Sandy Hook, mouse?

[mouse]

What truth?

What are you saying really happened at Sandy Hook, mouse?


Gun Control.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/chinese-communist-party-mouthpiece-demands-obama-disarm-americans.html

[ChumpDumper]

Gun Control.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/chinese-communist-party-mouthpiece-demands-obama-disarm-americans.htmlSorry, that isn't what you say happened at Sandy Hook.

What do you think really happened at Sandy Hook? No links -- no videos -- just your own words.

[Nbadan]

and the conspiracy train loses it's wheels...

Meanwhile..

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2013/01/26/us/GUN-girl_ad/GUN1-1359151639774-popup.jpg


Not only is that girl clearly too young to be purchasing a gun, but notice where she is holding the target. This is the type of "gun safety" that the NRA's allies are pushing on kids.

[rascal]

What truth?

What are you saying really happened at Sandy Hook, mouse?

He is afraid Paul Vance is going to come after him.

[TeyshaBlue]

and the conspiracy train loses it's wheels...

Meanwhile..
Not only is that girl clearly too young to be purchasing a gun, but notice where she is holding the target. This is the type of "gun safety" that the NRA's allies are pushing on kids.

notsureifsrs

[mouse]

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[spursncowboys]

and the conspiracy train loses it's wheels...

Meanwhile..

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2013/01/26/us/GUN-girl_ad/GUN1-1359151639774-popup.jpg


Not only is that girl clearly too young to be purchasing a gun, but notice where she is holding the target. This is the type of "gun safety" that the NRA's allies are pushing on kids.
Do you have a problem with gun manufacturers trying to market towards people who want to get their kids a gun, or into shooting? I for one am buying my girls a 22 handgun. There is barely any recoil and it's pretty light. THey are 7 and 4.

Where should she be holding the target? That's a really good deal for a brand new 22...

[spursncowboys]

I think people need to stop and take a breathe. Gun manufacturers are not evil, bad people. Gun enthusiasts are not evil or bad, when they try and get their kids into shooting and being enthusiastic about guns. I put it in the same way as taking your kids fishing.

[spursncowboys]

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[mouse]

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[Blake]

I think people need to stop and take a breathe. Gun manufacturers are not evil, bad people. Gun enthusiasts are not evil or bad, when they try and get their kids into shooting and being enthusiastic about guns. I put it in the same way as taking your kids fishing.

no doubt you carry a concealed Zebco.

[boutons_deux]

"Gun manufacturers are not evil, bad people"

yes, they are, along with the NRA. With their $Ms they buy politicians to deregulate and block control of guns, they LIE to ignorant voters who vote pro-gun/anti-regulations politicians, so they can sell guns to anybody, including The Bad Guys. It's all profit. 100M guns in USA are not for home defense or 2nd Amendment :lol, they are overwhelmingly, primarily for the financial gain of the gun manufacturers and the NRA. The result is 10Ks of gun deaths in USA. THE GUN PROVIDERS DON'T FUCKING CARE. The more gun deaths, the more "home defense" propaganda, the more guns sold. $$$$$$$

[mouse]

"just sharing another point of view"\

no, you're slinging pure shit, and you know it.



and the difference is?

[boutons_deux]

Adam Lanza Was Bullied While He Attended Sandy Hook Elementary, Family Member Says


Adam Lanza was bullied while he attended Sandy Hook Elementary and his mother Nancy considered suing the school for turning a blind eye to the abuse, an unnamed Lanza family member told (http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/exclusive-lanza-mom-mulled-lawsuit-article-1.1315985) the New York Daily News.“

Adam would come home with bruises all over his body,” the relative told the Daily News. “His mom would ask him what was wrong, and he wouldn’t say anything. He would just sit there.”

The family member went on to say that Lanza’s mother was distressed by the abuse, and didn’t believe school officials were protecting her son: “Nancy felt fiercely protective of him. She was convinced the school wasn’t doing enough to protect Adam. It made her irate.”

The relative also appears to attribute Lanza’s emotional and mental health problems to the experience, telling the Daily News that he never “seemed right” after his time in Sandy Hook.

“He was a sick boy,” the relative said.

http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/adam-lanza-was-bullied-while-he-attended-sandy-hook-elementary-family-member-says

[BobaFett1]

"Gun manufacturers are not evil, bad people"

yes, they are, along with the NRA. With their $Ms they buy politicians to deregulate and block control of guns, they LIE to ignorant voters who vote pro-gun/anti-regulations politicians, so they can sell guns to anybody, including The Bad Guys. It's all profit. 100M guns in USA are not for home defense or 2nd Amendment :lol, they are overwhelmingly, primarily for the financial gain of the gun manufacturers and the NRA. The result is 10Ks of gun deaths in USA. THE GUN PROVIDERS DON'T FUCKING CARE. The more gun deaths, the more "home defense" propaganda, the more guns sold. $$$$$$$


Dumbass. The real issue is mental health. If you bann guns crazy folks will still get them.

[boutons_deux]

Dumbass. The real issue is mental health. If you bann guns crazy folks will still get them.

suckered bubba regurgitating NRA/gun industry propaganda,

the real issue is $100Ms revenue for the gun industry and their marketing dept the NRA

mental health? :lol

marans? :lol

home defense? :lol

2nd amendment? :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

[TSA]

suckered bubba regurgitating NRA/gun industry propaganda,

you stupid fuck, it has nothing to do with the NRA, millions upon millions of non NRA members think the same.

[boutons_deux]

you stupid fuck, it has nothing to do with the NRA, millions upon millions of non NRA members think the same.

you don't have to be dumbfuck NRA member to be a dumbfuck suckered by NRA/gun-industry lies and propaganda.

[CosmicCowboy]

Fuck it. I'm heading to WalMart to stock up on pressure cookers. It's just a matter of time till some stupid motherfucker in the government decides to ban them and they go through the roof like ammo did.

[boutons_deux]

Fuck it. I'm heading to WalMart to stock up on pressure cookers. It's just a matter of time till some stupid motherfucker in the government decides to ban them and they go through the roof like ammo did.

when did your hated government ban guns and ammo? or even PROPOSE to do so?

it was/is the gun industry/NRA/right-wing propaganda machine rousing the paranoid rabble, like yourself, with rumors of banning and confiscation, even by the UN :lol

marans! :lol