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Drachen
01-24-2013, 02:53 PM
http://www.theverge.com/2013/1/23/3909700/google-secret-wireless-network-maybe-dish-partnership


Rumors have been swirling for months that Google has big wireless plans, possibly including a partnership with Dish, which hasn't been shy about telegraphing its intentions to build a cellular LTE network. Now, the pieces may be falling into place: Google is planning to build a secret wireless network on its Mountain View campus.

According to FCC filings spotted by wireless engineer Steven Crowley, it's a pretty hefty test: Google says it will use up to 50 base stations and 200 "user devices" (perhaps Android smartphones?) during the experimental period. Intriguingly, the temporary wireless network will operate in two narrow slivers of the 2.5GHz frequency band, which just so happens to be the territory of Clearwire — the same Clearwire which Dish is trying to purchase.

Now, Google's no stranger to crazy experiments, and not all of them will necessarily change the world: for every self-driving car and wearable display, there's an army of employees working on personal engineering projects. But it doesn't sound like that's what's happening here. When Google's lawyers sought to have parts of the FCC filing redacted, their argument was this: "The information for which confidential treatment is sought concerns the highly competitive consumer electronics market." Italics added for emphasis.

Both Google and Clearwire declined to comment to The Wall Street Journal.


This would be awesome! (well, not necessarily the LTE on 2.5 Ghz, but I think that Dish has some other lower frequency bandwidth).

TeyshaBlue
01-24-2013, 06:38 PM
Ok, I'm game. What's the issue with LTE on a 2.5Ghz band?


*Prepares to be educated*

Cry Havoc
01-24-2013, 06:46 PM
Higher frequencies get better penetration through buildings and other structures. Knowing Google, it's likely going to be very reliable and fast as well.

TeyshaBlue
01-24-2013, 06:47 PM
...and Havoc's all about better penetration.

TeyshaBlue
01-24-2013, 06:48 PM
Sorry...couldn't pass it up.:p:

Drachen
01-24-2013, 06:48 PM
Ok, I'm game. What's the issue with LTE on a 2.5Ghz band?


*Prepares to be educated*

Go find my comment in the comments section. I sound sthuper sthmart.

Drachen
01-24-2013, 06:48 PM
Higher frequencies get better penetration through buildings and other structures. Knowing Google, it's likely going to be very reliable and fast as well.

100% false.

Drachen
01-24-2013, 06:53 PM
Ok, I'm game. What's the issue with LTE on a 2.5Ghz band?


*Prepares to be educated*


Go find my comment in the comments section. I sound sthuper sthmart.

Just realized that my comment only halfway answers your question. Higher frequencies can carry far more information than lower frequencies, but cannot penetrate as well as lower frequencies. This is why Sprint's Wimax failed. Theoretically Wimax is a far better tech than LTE, but Sprint handicapped it by putting it so high on the frequency band. They put it there though because Clearwire had to use it or lose it.

TeyshaBlue
01-24-2013, 06:54 PM
Screw this. Google needs to stop. They’re doing too much!
Apocalypse!!!

TeyshaBlue
01-24-2013, 06:54 PM
Sounds like you.....lololol

TeyshaBlue
01-24-2013, 06:56 PM
Another problem is that when it rains you wouldn’t have very good signal. When the signal gets above 2 Ghz it gets close to the harmonic resonance of the hydrogen bonds in the water molecule. This distorts the signal and essentially acts as a moving wall for that signal.







Too many wordeses.

TeyshaBlue
01-24-2013, 06:56 PM
And there's no fucking way you knew that!:flipoff

ElNono
01-24-2013, 07:47 PM
Hope is a mesh network... free to boot

Drachen
01-24-2013, 07:55 PM
And there's no fucking way you knew that!:flipoff

It is my doppelganger.... or maybe I am his doppelganger.

Drachen
01-24-2013, 07:56 PM
It is my doppelganger.... or maybe I am his doppelganger.

Either way, someone's getting doppeled up the ass.

Drachen
01-24-2013, 07:57 PM
sounds like who?

Drachen
01-24-2013, 07:57 PM
Who says apocalypse

Drachen
01-24-2013, 07:59 PM
Yes I am following your lead, TB, and https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQyjAbY0imFmBRLfWLc0yQxxdQ1XjZFr NZ0vfQty2GfxJDu8VECSging all over this thread.

TeyshaBlue
01-24-2013, 08:01 PM
:lol:lol:lol:lol

Nathan Explosion
01-24-2013, 08:11 PM
Just realized that my comment only halfway answers your question. Higher frequencies can carry far more information than lower frequencies, but cannot penetrate as well as lower frequencies. This is why Sprint's Wimax failed. Theoretically Wimax is a far better tech than LTE, but Sprint handicapped it by putting it so high on the frequency band. They put it there though because Clearwire had to use it or lose it.

Okay, now I'll bite. Why do you say that WiMax is a better technology than LTE, in theory?

Too bad Sprint can't get their shit together and close the deal. Recently I've noticed an improvement in my LTE signal, but it still sucks that my fastest speeds are around Fair Oaks (27 mbps download). I switched from AT&T to Sprint because of my discount, and the hope that Sprints LTE network would get a more reliable signal. I didn't used to get a reliable signal at work in Boerne, but now I do, that's a plus. But now I want that signal to be faster. I was hoping the Clearwire deal would help improve everything.

Drachen
01-24-2013, 09:18 PM
Okay, now I'll bite. Why do you say that WiMax is a better technology than LTE, in theory?

Too bad Sprint can't get their shit together and close the deal. Recently I've noticed an improvement in my LTE signal, but it still sucks that my fastest speeds are around Fair Oaks (27 mbps download). I switched from AT&T to Sprint because of my discount, and the hope that Sprints LTE network would get a more reliable signal. I didn't used to get a reliable signal at work in Boerne, but now I do, that's a plus. But now I want that signal to be faster. I was hoping the Clearwire deal would help improve everything.

If I remember correctly WIMAX can theoretically transmit farther (30 mi/tower) and while this generation of wimax has a lower theoretical max than this gen LTE (75 v 100), WIMAX 2 kills LTE-A (1GBs v 300 MBs).