So Why No Outrage Over 233 Dead in Brazil??

[DMC]

If they were killed with an evil gun it would be all you heard about or read about for months. They die in a fire, no big deal. Just people trying to get out and have a good time, and they are Brazilians anyhow.

Odd that no one really gives a fuck about life, just about particular lives. SA210, where the fuck are you? Why aren't you complaining about piss poor fire codes and enforcement?

[exstatic]

If they were killed with an evil gun it would be all you heard about or read about for months. They die in a fire, no big deal. Just people trying to get out and have a good time, and they are Brazilians anyhow.

Odd that no one really gives a fuck about life, just about particular lives. SA210, where the fuck are you? Why aren't you complaining about piss poor fire codes and enforcement?

Surprised you aren't bitching about someone taking away your lighter or napalm thrower, tbh.

[DMC]

Surprised you aren't bitching about someone taking away your lighter or napalm thrower, tbh.

Nah, no one gives a fuck because there's no political points to be made. Also, I've never, not once, complained that someone is going to take my guns.

[mavs>spurs]

Nah, no one gives a fuck because there's no political points to be made. Also, I've never, not once, complained that someone is going to take my guns.

this. americans have become gullible, pussified sons of bitches. i'm not taking it laying down, i still have my balls and they are huge. FUCK YOU HYPOCRITE LIBERALS, fuck u fuck u fuck u.

RIP to these guys, shit sucks

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Uh huh. Count the number of foreign policy threads that are not SA210 drone youtubes on this forum and get back to me. I used to try and discuss NA, ME, CA, SEA, etc issues but people in general are just not interested. Your asserting cause without basis. You do that a lot.

[ElNono]

Waiting for the *** Official Fire in Brazil started by drones thread ***...

[Agloco]

SA210, where the fuck are you? Why aren't you complaining about piss poor fire codes and enforcement?

Were they vaccinated Brazilians? No one gives a rats ass about those types of Brazilians tbh.

[DMC]

Uh huh. Count the number of foreign policy threads that are not SA210 drone youtubes on this forum and get back to me. I used to try and discuss NA, ME, CA, SEA, etc issues but people in general are just not interested. Your asserting cause without basis. You do that a lot.

You went on about a gun ban in Australia that happened decades ago based on a shooting that killed a fraction of the number of people killed in Brazil yesterday and yet you remained silent on this issue, now you are feeling guilty and I just exposed you. Feel a draft?

[Drachen]

Did this have anything to do with the fact that Rio is built on an older city. I haven't looked into this, but I was talking to my dad yesterday and apparently the old city underneath Rio is somehow causing fireballs that are following the path of least resistance and blowing manholes out with fiery bursts.

It is still weird to me the idea of building a city ON TOP of another city. I just don't see how that works.

[leemajors]

Did this have anything to do with the fact that Rio is built on an older city. I haven't looked into this, but I was talking to my dad yesterday and apparently the old city underneath Rio is somehow causing fireballs that are following the path of least resistance and blowing manholes out with fiery bursts.

It is still weird to me the idea of building a city ON TOP of another city. I just don't see how that works.

Most older cities are built on top of cities - Rome, Paris, London, etc.

[Drachen]

Most older cities are built on top of cities - Rome, Paris, London, etc.


I know that, I understand that it happens, it is just weird to me that buildings that were once on top of the ground are now under the ground. I am sure if I did some cursory research into it that it would all make sense, but I haven't so it is still unfathomable to me.

[ChumpDumper]

Nah, no one gives a fuck because there's no political points to be made.Well, it is the political forum.

If it needs to be said, I am in favor of strong, well-enforced Brazilian fire codes.

[admiralsnackbar]

Most older cities are built on top of cities - Rome, Paris, London, etc.

And even younger cities like Seattle and NYC. It most often happens in places that are prone to flooding.

As to the OP's point... what is it? If arson were responsible for as many intentional deaths as guns in this country, you might have a tenuous point; but it isn't, so it doesn't seem to me that you do.

Should theatrical pyrotechnics be more closely regulated in Brazil? Sure. When something like that happens in the States is there outrage? Yes, there is (remember the Great White club show that burned down a club that wasn't insulated up to code about 10 yrs ago?).

[FuzzyLumpkins]

You went on about a gun ban in Australia that happened decades ago based on a shooting that killed a fraction of the number of people killed in Brazil yesterday and yet you remained silent on this issue, now you are feeling guilty and I just exposed you. Feel a draft?

REd herring skirting the issue typical bullshit from you.

The point of my discussion was the effectiveness of the ban in relation to potential policies here in the states. Had there not been a link between the two countries then most people would not have been interested.

People by and large do not care about events outside of the US. That is the point here. That is why people do not care. If a fire like that happened here in the states then you would get a different reaction. As I said, you are misrepresenting cause and once again are skirting the issue rather than admit youre without a point.

[Oh, Gee!!]

I'm sure there's plenty of outrage over at the "Political Forum" of braziliannationalbasketballteamtalk.com

[johnsmith]

I'm assuming that this fire was an accident........sooooooo.......seems like that would be a good reason to not be outraged.

If it was arson, well then yeah, that sucks.

[CosmicCowboy]

They are pretty pissed off in Brazil. They arrested the club owners and the band that started the fire.

[DMC]

I'm assuming that this fire was an accident........sooooooo.......seems like that would be a good reason to not be outraged.

If it was arson, well then yeah, that sucks.
Except the club was 2x the max occupancy, no exit signs on doors and their fire inspection certification was expired. Then reports say guards wouldn't let people leave for whatever stupid reason.

Accident or intentional, a lot of people are dead and not one of you tree huggers even raised in eyebrow. I didn't even see a dead baby pic.

[Oh, Gee!!]

It is a tragedy and many people died neeedlessly because some idiot club owner and his staff thought it would be a good idea to lock a crowd in a room with a fireworks display. They should be charged with with murder along with the band and anyone else who assisted with the ill-conceived fireworks display.

Happy now?

[DMC]

REd herring skirting the issue typical bullshit from you.

The point of my discussion was the effectiveness of the ban in relation to potential policies here in the states. Had there not been a link between the two countries then most people would not have been interested.

People by and large do not care about events outside of the US. That is the point here. That is why people do not care. If a fire like that happened here in the states then you would get a different reaction. As I said, you are misrepresenting cause and once again are skirting the issue rather than admit youre without a point.

But people care about the gun ban in Australia. Ok got it.

[DMC]

It is a tragedy and many people died neeedlessly because some idiot club owner and his staff thought it would be a good idea to lock a crowd in a room with a fireworks display. They should be charged with with murder along with the band and anyone else who assisted with the ill-conceived fireworks display.

Happy now?

I was happy before. I can point out a fact without needing to be unhappy about it.

[Oh, Gee!!]

Furthermore, there ought to be a world-wide ban on indoor fireworks. The same thing happened in Rhode Island about 10 years, and I believe dozens (if not hundreds) perished.

[DMC]

Furthermore, there ought to be a world-wide ban on indoor fireworks. The same thing happened in Rhode Island about 10 years, and I believe dozens (if not hundreds) perished.

Suits me, then you could actually see the game at Boston.

[Oh, Gee!!]

this one time at a spurs game, the fireworks set off the sprinkler system.

[Drachen]

this one time at a spurs game, the fireworks set off the sprinkler system.

http://i581.photobucket.com/albums/ss258/Drachen808/ZomboDroid28012013035342.jpg

[boutons_deux]

But people care about the gun ban in Australia. Ok got it.

care about? only as evidence of how strict gun regulations would reduce US gun violence, injuries, death.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

When I have no rejoinder, I just babble on anyway.

I looked and it was still front page on all the major carriers. 'People' care about both.

Your premise is unfounded. Darrin is that you?

[DMC]

I looked and it was still front page on all the major carriers. 'People' care about both.

Your premise is unfounded. Darrin is that you?

Caught with your panties down again and you go to name dropping those who have rogered you?

[FuzzyLumpkins]

So then this is another call out thread for me?

You guys really need to find a date.

[johnsmith]

Except the club was 2x the max occupancy, no exit signs on doors and their fire inspection certification was expired. Then reports say guards wouldn't let people leave for whatever stupid reason.

Accident or intentional, a lot of people are dead and not one of you tree huggers even raised in eyebrow. I didn't even see a dead baby pic.

Lol, are you implying that I'm a tree hugger?

You've obviously never read one of my posts.

[Latarian Milton]

true tragedy but anyone ever wondered why it's often in a nightclub where massive people get killed in a fire? the gate keepers shut the door when people were trying to escape from the fire because they thought these people wanted to get out w/o paying. there was no explosion or shit so there should've been enough time to evacuate the crowd, but the motherfuckers left the door closed and the innocent people burnt. it's not the fire's fault and such tragedies could've been easily prevented tbh

[Latarian Milton]

Did this have anything to do with the fact that Rio is built on an older city. I haven't looked into this, but I was talking to my dad yesterday and apparently the old city underneath Rio is somehow causing fireballs that are following the path of least resistance and blowing manholes out with fiery bursts.

It is still weird to me the idea of building a city ON TOP of another city. I just don't see how that works.
u think there actually exists something like the future city in stallone's movie demolition man? weird chink logic tbh

[Brazil]

Purpose of that thread tbh?

[DMC]

Lol, are you implying that I'm a tree hugger?

You've obviously never read one of my posts.

You are what you hug.

[johnsmith]

You are what you hug.

So because I think your logic is fucking stupid, I must automatically be a tree hugger......wow.

:toast

[DMC]

So because I think your logic is fucking stupid, I must automatically be a tree hugger......wow.

:toast

Somewhere there's a tree in need of a hug.

[The Reckoning]

ban fire tbh

[Jacob1983]

No one cares about Brazilians. I mean really, Brazilians aren't really sympathy magnets. People outside of Brazil aren't going to give a shit.

[Wild Cobra]

No one cares about Brazilians. I mean really, Brazilians aren't really sympathy magnets. People outside of Brazil aren't going to give a shit.
I think you mean the media hasn't told you to care about them like victims of shooting.

[Jacob1983]

Yep that sums it up. The victims of that fire weren't little white kids from a school in Connecticut so the media hasn't told people to care about the victims.

[Soul_Patch]

If they were killed by a fire that was started by DRONES!!! then I would care.

[diego]

:lol at this thread

hey DMC, do americans / US media get "outraged!" by school shootings outside of the US? maybe there is insufficient sample size to say definitively...
how about fires in the US? somehow i'm still "outraged!" enough to remember this old paper I read in college:
http://www.cafiresci.org/storage/papers/Davis1995.pdf

On the other hand, many of the 100-or-so recent fatalities
from tenement fires in the Westlake and Downtown areas might have
been prevented if slumlords had been held to minimal standards of
building safety. If enormous resources have been allocated-
quixotically-to fight irresistible forces of nature on the Malibu coast,
then scandalously little attention has been paid to the man-made and
remediable fire crisis of the inner city. As we shall see in some detail,
the political history of fire in Los Angeles is a faithful reflection of
larger class struggles.
do we need to confirm Mike Davis' outrage over the brazil fires before we can accept his outrage as valid?

[DMC]

:lol at this thread

hey DMC, do americans / US media get "outraged!" by school shootings outside of the US? maybe there is insufficient sample size to say definitively...
how about fires in the US? somehow i'm still "outraged!" enough to remember this old paper I read in college:
http://www.cafiresci.org/storage/papers/Davis1995.pdf

do we need to confirm Mike Davis' outrage over the brazil fires before we can accept his outrage as valid?

So you agree.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

In other news, several Brazilian's associated with the fire have been arrested and the story has been a top story on every commercial news agency in the states ever since it happened. I am not sure what 'outraged' is supposed to mean but it certainly has been brought to the forefront of American consciousness as it should be.

[DMC]

In other news, several Brazilian's associated with the fire have been arrested and the story has been a top story on every commercial news agency in the states ever since it happened. I am not sure what 'outraged' is supposed to mean but it certainly has been brought to the forefront of American consciousness.

But not here. That was my point. I wasn't commenting on the national spotlight, lugnut.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

:cry SA210 doesn't post about the things that I think he should care about. :cry

So now you are the arbiter of what we care about? If you think its an important story then post it without trying to call out others on what you think we should care about or more specifically how we should act about things we care about.

These call out threads speak more about you then it does anyone else.

Oh and remember this?


But he could be any random person in the world. Funny how some people think they are changing the world, one mind at a time.

What a putz.

[Blake]

If they were killed with an evil gun it would be all you heard about or read about for months. They die in a fire, no big deal. Just people trying to get out and have a good time, and they are Brazilians anyhow.

Odd that no one really gives a fuck about life, just about particular lives. SA210, where the fuck are you? Why aren't you complaining about piss poor fire codes and enforcement?

Yeah, I'm not seeing the point of this thread either.

What exactly would we be hearing if it were guns instead of a fire?

[DMC]

Yeah, I'm not seeing the point of this thread either.

What exactly would we be hearing if it were guns instead of a fire?

It's more about what you'd be saying, not what you'd be hearing.

[DMC]

So now you are the arbiter of what we care about? If you think its an important story then post it without trying to call out others on what you think we should care about or more specifically how we should act about things we care about.

These call out threads speak more about you then it does anyone else.

Oh and remember this?



What a putz.

Explain.

[Oh, Gee!!]

Yeah, I'm not seeing the point of this thread either.

to express his outrage over our percieved lack of immediate outrage about an event over which we are in fact becoming increasingly outraged as details become known.

[Drachen]

Yeah, I'm not seeing the point of this thread either.

What exactly would we be hearing if it were guns instead of a fire?

I think that the point of the thread is that DMC has turned into SA210 and is trying to scold us for caring too much about Americans relative to others. It seems that in DMC's case he is mistaking tribalism for something else.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Explain.

You are criticizing us because you don't like how we express what we care about.

You poo-poo the notion of trying to change others minds here.

So is this you being a hypocrite or is this thread just mental masturbation for yourself?

[ChumpDumper]

I think that the point of the thread is that DMC has turned into SA210 and is trying to scold us for caring too much about Americans relative to others. It seems that in DMC's case he is mistaking tribalism for something else.I'm not sure of that, but it's safe to say the thread is a miss.

[DMC]

You are criticizing us because you don't like how we express what we care about.

You poo-poo the notion of trying to change others minds here.

So is this you being a hypocrite or is this thread just mental masturbation for yourself?

I haven't said or even hinted that you should feel any certain way. I am only pointing out your hypocrisy. You would, no doubt, be all over this if those same people were killed by shooters. If you aren't in it for the lives saved, you're just in it for red vs blue talking points.

Pretty sure that's the driving force for most of you. At least I am honest enough to admit I wasn't surprised by it, but then I wasn't surprised by the shooting in Conn either other than the fact most were children.

[DMC]

I think that the point of the thread is that DMC has turned into SA210 and is trying to scold us for caring too much about Americans relative to others. It seems that in DMC's case he is mistaking tribalism for something else.

I actually commented directly to SA210 about his lack of concern.

lol thinking I actually care.

[DMC]

I'm not sure of that, but it's safe to say the thread is a miss.

Like about 72,690 of your posts.

[Blake]

It's more about what you'd be saying, not what you'd be hearing.

Fine, what would I be saying?

[ChumpDumper]

Like about 72,690 of your posts.Don't be mad. It happens.

[DMC]

Fine, what would I be saying?
"Sweetie, are you ok? I heard you screaming"

[DMC]

Don't be mad. It happens.

.

[Blake]

"Sweetie, are you ok? I heard you screaming"

oh, I get it.

Now what would I really say?