Tim Duncan Injury vs. Wiz (Update: Sprained Left Knee and Sprained Right Ankle)

[timvp]

:depressed

In his return from a sore knee, Tim Duncan got his left knee (his bad one) rolled into and then he went down in a twisting, ugly fashion. Looked horrible.

No words.

[Trainwreck2100]

holding on to his knee, holding onto his knee and down

[benefactor]

Well shit. No ones fault tbh...just one of those fluke things. Let's hope for the best.

[Cry Havoc]

Friend of mine is an athletic trainer. Watched it happen. Fears the worst. :|

[Chris]

Walked on it with no assistance for a while which is a good sign.

[Reck]

Ay caramba.

This is fucked.

[Thebesteva]

Well there goes the regular season championship

[Uriel]

Son of a bitch.

[Trill Clinton]

:depressed

[timvp]

I'm hoping for anything other than out for the season. That looked really damn bad.

Out a month or two would be great at this point.

[Bill_Brasky]

Well, shit.

[ElNono]

http://www.dogster.com/files/post_images/ed900dd01204ec5a5e78b0cd17aab510.jpg

[Mugen]

godamnit.

[Interrohater]

That broke my heart...

[anakha]

In before the inevitable 'fuck Pop for playing him in this game' reactions.

[Mugen]

god fucking damnit.

[Nathan89]

Any video?

[EJFischer]

Oh my fucking god I couldn't even watch the replay all the way through. The way Webster hit from the side. This is the worst.

[timvp]

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3k5q9gX0A1rug87fo1_400.jpg

[SanDiegoSpursFan]

IDK too much about ACL injuries, but I think most of them don't occur due to contact. Hopefully it isn't that.

[Cry Havoc]

Anyone got any contacts they could use to get the news ASAP?

[JR3]

Son of a Mother!!!!

[Cry Havoc]

IDK too much about ACL injuries, but I think most of them don't occur due to contact. Hopefully it isn't that.

Categorically untrue.

[benstanfield]

We're fucked fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck

[Reck]

I'm hoping for anything other than out for the season. That looked really damn bad.

Out a month or two would be great at this point.

Same here.

Hell I would take out till the playoffs.

These Spurs squad have demostrated they can win RS games without Timmy so I'm not even concerned as far as that goes. Playoffs however is a different matter.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

Jeff McDonald ‏@JMcDonald_SAEN

Duncan had a similar moment a few seasons back against Portland. Ended up being only a sprain. Spurs can only hope for more of same luck.

[Man In Black]

Leg whip. It's the variety you see on the field of NFL games on Sunday. Unlike Rondo, Tim wears a protective brace which limits how far his knee would twist or bend. Seeing as to how he was able to walk on his own is a good sign. However, we all remember Rondo kept on playing until he found out the next day he had a torn ACL, with Tim, his has been surgically repaired, we can all hope that what hurt the most on the leg whip was scar tissue being stretched out because of whip. Best case, he's uninjured. Likely, Pop goes overprotective and he does not play in the AS game and he rests to get healed. Some Ligament injuries do not require surgery at all, just time off. It's completely speculative but I can see him taking the next 3 weeks off easy. Worst case is he's out for the season. Let's hope it's not that. This team needs him to make a deep run obviously.
Someone call the Carmelite Nuns and have them do the full rosary prayer circle.

[Trill Clinton]

http://i27.tinypic.com/k54txx.gif

[ElNono]

Anyone got any contacts they could use to get the news ASAP?

https://twitter.com/JMcDonald_SAEN

[KenziE]

update pls

[Juggity]

Probably the worst thing that could happen to the team if it turns out bad.

[Spurs Brazil]

We won't know much today. We'll have to wait for the MRI

[hater]

Looked and felt career ending. One of those moments that u will remember where u were and what u were doing. Kinda like when 911 or d challenger happened

Hope im wrong. Whoever mentioned d brace, good point. Maybe just maybe it protected from catastrophic damage

[capek]

It looked really ugly, but we've observed that you can't tell much from Timmy's visible reaction to pain. The way he reacted to some of those ankle injuries back in the day, you'd have sworn he'd broken something. Then he's come back after halftime and play great. Hopefully it looked worse than it is, but this kinda waiting game is no fun. :(

[DesignatedT]

????????? I'm about to cry

[Interrohater]

I'm worried more about Timmy's career. He's already at the tail end of it. I don't want it to end! Not like this... not like this..

[Mugen]

God i hope it's like that Warriors game a few years back where it looked really bad and he came out okay.

[KenziE]

gary neal doing the sign of the cross tbh

[KL2]

Meh, probably just a sprain.

[benefactor]

http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q45/gospelrapper/praying-cat.jpg

[swaggerjackson]

I am praying that he is ready for the playoffs. Even if he gets healthy before the end of the season I would still hope we sit him until the playoffs. Fuck if we lose Tim to a regular season game against the Wizards where we go up 25 in the 2nd quarter...OK not going to think about it. Come on TIM! Please be something minor

[NASpurs]

Looked and felt career ending. One of those moments that u will remember where u were and what u were doing. Kinda like when 911 or d challenger happened

:lmao

Anyway I've seen Duncan go down like too many times only to find out he was being over dramatic. Ill wait for the diagnosis before jumping off the cliff.

[timvp]

Hopefully Sean Elliott will have some sort of update tonight. Then there will probably be an MRI tomorrow. Nothing will be known until after that.

[Uriel]

God i hope it's like that Warriors game a few years back where it looked really bad and he came out okay.
He was limping throughout the Memphis series that year and pundits universally agree it was the Warriors injury that cost us Duncan's stellar play.

And the worst part is, that would be the best case scenario for us at this point.

[Paranoid Pop]

Looked and felt career ending. One of those moments that u will remember where u were and what u were doing. Kinda like when 911 or d challenger happened

Wouldn't go that far but the playoffs seem awfully close now.......

Not sure he can be 100% by then but I hope for the best.

[Spurs Brazil]

And let's hope the giant knee brace did his job

[Trainwreck2100]

if we're lucky we aren't going to know till tomorrow

[admiralfats]

mcdonald says it perfectly on twitter

Jeff McDonald ‏@JMcDonald_SAEN
Spurs lead Wiz 51-26 at halftime. Nobody cares.

i switched over just in time to see them helping him off and my heart stopped. and twice now i've had that choked feeling you get right before you cry. and i was super pissed at martell webster and screaming at him for rolling when he fell. this sucks. please be okay, timmy.

[Juggity]

Looked and felt career ending. One of those moments that u will remember where u were and what u were doing. Kinda like when 911 or d challenger happened

That's overdramatizing it a bit tbh :lol

[spursfan09]

Didn't look good live. Arena got real quiet

[loveforthegame]

Hoping for the best.

[WeNeedLength]

Damn it. Shit. Hard to watch that

[mrjap2x]

Fuck the wizards:depressed

Bullets Forever jinxed us, titled the game thread "Expect Pain".:depressed

[Bill_Brasky]

Time for Leonard to show us if he can be a legit option in this offense.

[jon123spurs]

Well at least he walked off the court by his own power. Hope its not serious but all we could is pray right now.

[Spurs Brazil]

spurs Tim Duncan suffered a sprained right ankle and a sprained left knee. He will not return to tonight's game

[Interrohater]

Saying that it's a sprained knee?
https://twitter.com/TheZRoberts/status/297898242161668096

[Dr. Robert Lee]

Looked and felt career ending. One of those moments that u will remember where u were and what u were doing. Kinda like when 911 or d challenger happened

Hope im wrong. Whoever mentioned d brace, good point. Maybe just maybe it protected from catastrophic damage
lolwut

[jeebus]

297898322650341376

[JRHernandez88]

Tim Duncan trolling all of San Antonio.















*crossing my fingers and praying

[benfti]

We won't know much today. We'll have to wait for the MRI

You can diagnose an ACL without an MRI. The MRI is only used to confirm it, and isolate whether its a tear or a rupture.

It looked like an ACL to be honest, and I have a lot of experience with it.

Dont mean to be the bearer of bad news:depressed

[Amuseddaysleeper]

Jeff McDonald ‏@JMcDonald_SAEN

Tim Duncan diagnosis: Right ankle sprain, left knee sprain. Will not return.

[Interrohater]

I really hope that's all that it is....

[SanDiegoSpursFan]

https://twitter.com/JMcDonald_SAEN/status/297898322650341376

[HarlemHeat37]

Knee sprain could still potentially equal a ligament tear like ACL, etc..correct?..

[TE]

You kinda wonder why shit like this doesn't happen to faggots like Westbrick and momma boy Durant tbh. It seems almost every week an important player of ours has a nagging injury.

[nkdlunch]

bullshit, we won't know until tomorrow or day after. That is gotta be just preliminary prognosis.

Duncan has been blessed to the point of seeming indestructible. Could his luck have run out?

If Duncan comes back IMO he is truly a blessed superhuman kinda dude

[Amuseddaysleeper]

Jeff McDonald Jeff McDonald ‏@JMcDonald_SAEN

Nothing on the Tim Duncan injury report that says "ligament" or "torn" so sounds like a net win. Will update after the game.

[TE]

Knee sprain could still potentially equal a ligament tear like ACL, etc..correct?..
Yes

[admiralsnackbar]

Knee sprain could still potentially equal a ligament tear like ACL, etc..correct?..
We won't know until the MRIs, so, yeah.

[MaNu4Tres]

Knee sprain could still potentially equal a ligament tear like ACL, etc..correct?..

Correct. Won't really know til the MRI results. #PrayingforTIm

[hooperflash]

Sprains. Phew.

[timvp]

Knee sprain could still potentially equal a ligament tear like ACL, etc..correct?..
Yes. Sprain knees turn into torn ACLs a decent percentage of the time :td

[KenziE]

how bout lebron that gamefixing pointshaving douche why doesnt he gets injured ?

[Spurs Brazil]

Damn, just saw the right ankle sprain. It also looks very bad

[scanry]

Was very reminiscent of Kobe falling on Andrew Bynum's knee. How did that turn out btw?

[Paranoid Pop]

So basically still holding our breath.

[EJFischer]

For damaging something beautiful, he will now forever be known to me as The Vandal Martell Webster, and I shall curse his name.

[timtonymanu]

That doesn't sound good at all. And we have to wait until tomorrow for a possible MRI. Gonna be a tough time to sleep tonight.

[Uriel]

Damn, just saw the right ankle sprain. It also looks very bad
Please link to video.

[Johnny RIngo]

bullshit, we won't know until tomorrow or day after. That is gotta be just preliminary prognosis.

Duncan has been blessed to the point of seeming indestructible. Could his luck have run out?

If Duncan comes back IMO he is truly a blessed superhuman kinda dude

He hasn't had Malone-like durabililty. Missed the 2000 post-season and has had knee problems the past few years. Knee sprain sounds bad, hopefully it doesn't mean an acl tear

[phxspurfan]

wow, 2 sprains? That sucks either way.

[Skoobz]

.......calling Aron Baynes......

[HarlemHeat37]

There isn't anybody to blame here, tbh..

We can't say Duncan shouldn't have been playing, he looked healthy and his knee looked good before the injury..Webster just lost his balance and stumbled..these flukish injuries are frustrating and disheartening, especially in meaningless games against tanking opponents..

As others have already stated, I'll be happy if Duncan can make a healthy return by April..

[timvp]

~11 weeks until the playoffs. Anything less than a horrific injury (torn ligament, etc.) and Duncan should probably be back.

[emanueldavidginobili]

Knee sprain for a 36 year old big man is still pretty bad if that's all it is, but yeah Knee sprains turn out to be ACL tears when they do the MRI, but honestly I think the brace might have saved him from that IMO

[NASpurs]

~11 weeks until the playoffs. Anything less than a horrific injury (torn ligament, etc.) and Duncan should probably be back.

Assuming that's the case, hopefully it's one of those blessings in disguise type of situations. The team will gel even more, more playing time for Baynes and Duncan wont go into the playoffs running on fumes.

[Floyd Pacquiao]

pray to god it's only sprains

[ThaBigFundamental21]

I just hope the diagnosis is right, but I refuse to sigh until the MRI has happened and good news ensues. I'm freaking out.

[Man In Black]

Let's just wait it out. Will and Dice will do all they can to minimize pain and swelling and then we'll know in the next 48 hours. Ever the optimist, I think the brace did it's job and that he has a sprained knee and is out 2-3 weeks and won't see the court until sometime in March.

[Spur|n|Austin]

That was rough watching live. Bad feeling in my gut, but hoping for a sprain with no damage.

[Libri]

I was already concerned before these sprains. Now it's just depressing.

[timtonymanu]

So now trading Blair is out of the question. Gonna need all the bigman depth while Duncan is out.

[Paranoid Pop]

So now trading Blair is out of the question. Gonna need all the bigman depth while Duncan is out.

Recipe for locker room implosion once Baynes passes him up on the depth chart.

[Brunodf]

So now trading Blair is out of the question. Gonna need all the bigman depth while Duncan is out.
:lol

[Bruno]

What a freak injury. It just happens and there are no one to blame for it.

I certainly won't go in doomsday mode because I have no idea hos serious it is. Spurs reporting only sprains is a relatively good news but we won't know for sure until the MRI. Wait and see.

[Russo21]

I feel sick.

[Rapper]

Don't tell me timmy gets injured again, it's not funny at all.......

My Goddess oh my goddess

can't believe that

[loveforthegame]

Waiting is the worse. :(

[Rapper]

Who the hell makes Timmy injured?????

[nkdlunch]

wow just watched it again. He rolled right ankle, left ankle opposite direction and the knee

crazy he didn't need a stretcher

[Rapper]

I'm pissing off by the wizards!!!!!! I swear i will never and ever watch their games from now on

[polandprzem]

:pctoss


WTF Timmay in a best season in years

[Obstructed_View]

In before the inevitable 'fuck Pop for playing him in this game' reactions.

Clearly you were thinking it. Why bother bringing Timmy back?

[SpurPadre]

FACK...this shit had to happen on my fucking birthday. I didn't see the play but MOTHERFUCK YOU Martell Webster, you injury-causing PIECE OF SHIT!!!!!!!!!!!

[KL2]

Meh, probably just a sprain.

[Leetonidas]

And moments later MKG is taken out on a stretcher and rushed to the hospital in an ambulance. What a shit day for the NBA injury wise :depressed

[Spurs Brazil]

wow just watched it again. He rolled right ankle, left ankle opposite direction and the knee

crazy he didn't need a stretcher

True. After the replay I felt the rolled ankle looked as bad as the knee

[Andthentherewas21]

Looks bad, nearly 90 degree bend of that left knee, but it looks like Webster took his right leg/ankle out first and Duncan had started to fall a little which might have reduced the weight/damage to his left knee. Still can't imagine him being back anytime before mid-march. Hope he's better a few weeks before the playoffs so he can get his conditioning and rhythm back

[Capt Bringdown]

What was Pop's real motivation in benching TD against Miami?
Wondering, since resting TD in that game, presumably to prevent an unnecessary injury in a relatively meaningless non-conference regular season game and then only to turn around and allow Tim to play against the Washington Wizards doesn't make sense.

[SpurPadre]

I don't know how bad this is going to turn out, but RC has got to start working the phones to see if we can get another big. At this point, Blair, Neal, Green, and even Jax are expendable if we can get a decent big in return.

[slick'81]

pray the mri is clean

[Clipper Nation]

That's awful, never want to see an injury like that happen to anyone, especially not an all-time great like Timmy....

[Obstructed_View]

FACK...this shit had to happen on my fucking birthday. I didn't see the play but MOTHERFUCK YOU Martell Webster, you injury-causing PIECE OF SHIT!!!!!!!!!!!

Happy birthday. :birthday:

[Mugen]

Happy birthday. :birthday:

:lol

[SpurPadre]

Happy birthday. :birthday:

Well, it's not so happy now but thanks!

[HarlemHeat37]

My original feeling was that Duncan shouldn't be playing, but after taking a moment to think about it, it's an illogical thought..

Duncan was healthy enough to return, he looked fine prior to the injury, he wasn't going to sit out forever..a game against a shitty team makes more sense for a return, as it presents a nice opportunity to shake off rust..in addition, the Spurs were winning by 20+, which means Duncan probably would have rested most of the 2nd half..

If the freak injury hadn't occurred, we would all be discussing the great idea that was bringing Timmy back for this game, tbh..

[timvp]

What was Pop's real motivation in benching TD against Miami?
Wondering, since resting TD in that game, presumably to prevent an unnecessary injury in a relatively meaningless non-conference regular season game and then only to turn around and allow Tim to play against the Washington Wizards doesn't make sense.

How long is Pop supposed to sit Duncan out? The original plan was for TD to return last Saturday against the Suns. Pop held him out longer since the Spurs were winning and to buy Duncan some extra rest. Eventually Pop has to let him play. It's not like the plan was ever for Duncan to skip every "meaningless non-conference" games.

This injury was just a fluke. It sucks but not much anyone could have done now ...

[Mugen]

The first thing that popped in my head was Tom Brady's ACL tear tbh. Looked like the same motion and reaction from Brady/Timmy.

Please let me be fucking wrong.

[RodNIc91]

In other news that means Timmy wont go tothe all star game so techincally the 14th nod wont count right? BTW for all of those ppl who thought the injury didnt matter to me my heart stopped the second I read knee

[Danny.Zhu]

shit

[SpurPadre]

The first thing that popped in my head was Tom Brady's ACL tear tbh. Looked like the same motion and reaction from Brady/Timmy.

Please let me be fucking wrong.

You are wrong. Brady didn't walk on his own and had to be carted off right after. Still, RC better be on the phone ASAFUCKINGP and see what the trade market is like now for a big.

[HarlemHeat37]

What was Pop's real motivation in benching TD against Miami?
Wondering, since resting TD in that game, presumably to prevent an unnecessary injury in a relatively meaningless non-conference regular season game and then only to turn around and allow Tim to play against the Washington Wizards doesn't make sense.

That was the Spurs 4th game in 5 nights IIRC..

Let's just hope that he'll be fine, rather than finding a person to blame..

[bthewigwam]

My birthday is Wednesday and it's already ruined.

[HarlemHeat37]

We all remember incidents like Brady's and others, but there are also many examples of injuries that appeared much worse than the eventual diagnosis..wait and see, tbh..

[Obstructed_View]

You are wrong. Brady didn't walk on his own and had to be carted off right after. Still, RC better be on the phone ASAFUCKINGP and see what the trade market is like now for a big.

Jason Sehorn ran off the field.

[benefactor]

What was Pop's real motivation in benching TD against Miami?
Wondering, since resting TD in that game, presumably to prevent an unnecessary injury in a relatively meaningless non-conference regular season game and then only to turn around and allow Tim to play against the Washington Wizards doesn't make sense.
Horrible fail of a comparison. He had played a shitload of games up to the Miami game. Like 5 in 7 nights.

He had already been out for 11 days and was going to get 3 more days rest before the RRT. I'm sure he played this game to get a little bit of rhythm back before the RRT. I see no problem with that.

[ElNono]

the hindsight brigade is pretty stupid, IMO... injuries happen, you can't plan for them... this was a freak injury, nobody to blame here...

[Mugen]

You are wrong. Brady didn't walk on his own and had to be carted off right after. Still, RC better be on the phone ASAFUCKINGP and see what the trade market is like now for a big.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LuClWeD9ouI

Happy Birthday!

[timvp]

Jason Sehorn ran off the field.
Rondo finished off the game and starting warming up for the next game a couple days later before finding out something was wrong.

[nkdlunch]

tbh I was surprised to see Duncan playing tonight.

just a weird night to bring him back imo

[benefactor]

You are wrong. Brady didn't walk on his own and had to be carted off right after. Still, RC better be on the phone ASAFUCKINGP and see what the trade market is like now for a big.
A trade won't matter. If Duncan is gone, the season is over.

[Danny.Zhu]

FACK...this shit had to happen on my fucking birthday. I didn't see the play but MOTHERFUCK YOU Martell Webster, you injury-causing PIECE OF SHIT!!!!!!!!!!!

My birthday too fwiw...

[nkdlunch]

Rondo finished off the game and starting warming up for the next game a couple days later before finding out something was wrong.

Rondo also bent his elbow 90 degrees the opposite way and his career wasn't over

tbh not a good comparison to compare someone to that freak Rondo

[Mugen]

Yeah, this isn't like when Pop played Manu in the meaningless final regular season game against the Suns and torpedoed the 2011 Playoffs.

The Manu injury was squarely on Pop, but this is just a freak mishap that you can't put on anyone.

[Obstructed_View]

Rondo finished off the game and starting warming up for the next game a couple days later before finding out something was wrong.

Yarp. There's just no telling.

[ElNono]

great, more hero ball

[Andthentherewas21]

So who is donating their ACL if Duncan's is torn. I would but mine is probably like 10 inches short

[Fabbs]

I really liked some of the cat praying photos some of you posted.

[Obstructed_View]

the hindsight brigade is pretty stupid, IMO... injuries happen, you can't plan for them... this was a freak injury, nobody to blame here...

Stages of grief, tbh. BTW, do I get a pass since I mentioned Duncan should sit a few days ago? Since you've appointed yourself the final arbiter of who gets to think what I just wanted to clear it with you.

[Spurs Brazil]

JMcDonald_SAEN Maybe it's just me, but the mood on the Spurs' bench (players and coaches) just seems grim.

[ElNono]

Stages of grief, tbh. BTW, do I get a pass since I mentioned Duncan should sit a few days ago? Since you've appointed yourself the final arbiter of who gets to think what I just wanted to clear it with you.

you're ok, tbh

[Richie]

Let's be honest, if its a torn ACL then Timmy might have to call it a career. It'd be a long, hard road back for a 36 year old

[Amuseddaysleeper]

JMcDonald_SAEN Maybe it's just me, but the mood on the Spurs' bench (players and coaches) just seems grim.

No shit, Jeff

[Interrohater]

So who is donating their ACL if Duncan's is torn. I would but mine is probably like 10 inches short

Maybe if they tape both of ours together? We'd need a third party I think

[timvp]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ljaFPpJ2nw

[benefactor]

Jeff is like Capt. Obvious' retarded twin.

[Obstructed_View]

you're ok, tbh
I keep telling myself, "at least I'm not Nick Van Exel"...

[ElNono]

I keep telling myself, "at least I'm not Nick Van Exel"...

Not being JR Smith best friend works for me...

[SpurPadre]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LuClWeD9ouI

Happy Birthday!

Goddamn you!

[benefactor]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ljaFPpJ2nw
Man that looks bad in slow motion. I really hope these aren't the last moments of the Duncan era.

[TDMVPDPOY]

so the webster **** gets block falls down trying to sell a foul, lands on duncan....fck that shit

[Obstructed_View]

No shit, Jeff

Did he really fucking say that?

[SpurPadre]

My birthday too fwiw...

Damn, if I weren't in Northern California I'd ask ya if you wanted to meet up at a bar and drink this pain away, LOL.

[Capt Bringdown]

How long is Pop supposed to sit Duncan out? The original plan was for TD to return last Saturday against the Suns. Pop held him out longer since the Spurs were winning and to buy Duncan some extra rest. Eventually Pop has to let him play. It's not like the plan was ever for Duncan to skip every "meaningless non-conference" games.

This injury was just a fluke. It sucks but not much anyone could have done now ...

Pop's earlier caginess with playing TD raises the question. It's not a matter of an arbitrary rule of X number of games, obviously. It's about good judgment in accessing risks, as it was with the Miami game.
We're playing the Wizards before the All-Star break. Tim is coming back from an injury.
Seems like as legitimate a point to sit him as with the Miami game.

Every injury is a fluke. You expect the coach to wisely minimize the risks, as he did with the Miami game. Right?

[Man In Black]

Leg whip, freak injury. I think it's kind of malicious of Webster because it doesn't need to happen. He could have just curled up in a defensive posture but he didn't. At any rate, the hindsight is dumb. A player can get injured walking down a flight of stairs at home. Who gets the blame. Tim Duncan is a pro basketball player and he plays in the NBA and he got hurt doing it. That happens on all levels. The difference is that this team has shown, above and beyond, about how serious they are when it comes to health and injuries. Paying for surgeries for players that never even played in the NBA for them(Javtokas), making Tim sit for the 2000 season to not risk further injury, bringing in state of the art healing modalities such as the Hydroworx Underwater Treadmill.

Freak injury-Thanks Martell Webster...but again, I think we need to thank the Brace company for the knee and Will or Dice's tape job for the ankle. The Leg Whip could have caused more injury without those preventative measures.

[99 Problems]

Oh. Tim. Just Oh.

[Obstructed_View]

Not being JR Smith best friend works for me...


http://youtu.be/7erl9k01C2M

[Mugen]

the replay is pretty much identical to the Tom Brady injury tbh. :depressed

[HarlemHeat37]

Sean doesn't seem to think it's that bad, but he's an optimistic and positive person, he may not have actually heard anything yet..

[RodNIc91]

His face said it all. FML

[emanueldavidginobili]

Now that I got a look at it, that looks to me like a torn ACL, and will be surprised if its not. Im praying its not, this fucking sucks.

[Ice009]

JMcDonald_SAEN Maybe it's just me, but the mood on the Spurs' bench (players and coaches) just seems grim.

That's not what I wanted to hear at all. The mood tells a lot. Fuck.

[benefactor]

Pop's earlier caginess with playing TD raises the question. It's not a matter of an arbitrary rule of X number of games, obviously. It's about good judgment in accessing risks, as it was with the Miami game.
We're playing the Wizards before the All-Star break. Tim is coming back from an injury.
Seems like as legitimate a point to sit him as with the Miami game.

Every injury is a fluke. You expect the coach to wisely minimize the risks, as he did with the Miami game. Right?
None of that made any sense.

[td4mvp21]

Mother. Fucker.

[SpurPadre]

the replay is pretty much identical to the Tom Brady injury tbh. :depressed

You have to believe Tom was hit with more force, though, right?

[Obstructed_View]

Sean doesn't seem to think it's that bad, but he's an optimistic and positive person, he may not have actually heard anything yet..

Sean's a bigger Spurs fan than about half of Spurstalk put together, and he had to witness it live and still do his job. He's firmly in the "denial" phase.

[SpurPadre]

I mean, when Manu gets his bi-weekly injury, the bench is like "Oh, that's just Manu being Manu" and play on. Now they look like Bonner cloned two more of him and forced Pop to sign them to the team. That's how grim it looks.

[timvp]

Pop's earlier caginess with playing TD raises the question. It's not a matter of an arbitrary rule of X number of games, obviously. It's about good judgment in accessing risks, as it was with the Miami game.
We're playing the Wizards before the All-Star break. Tim is coming back from an injury.
Seems like as legitimate a point to sit him as with the Miami game.

Every injury is a fluke. You expect the coach to wisely minimize the risks, as he did with the Miami game. Right?

There are five more games before the All-Star break. If Duncan was healthy enough to play last Saturday, how much extra is Pop supposed to sit him out? Just sit him out on back-to-backs and/or every game against a bad team?

Eventually Duncan had to play. Giving him a warmup before going out on the road for the RRT sounds like a more than reasonable plan to me.

[HarlemHeat37]

Ya, everybody will have to wait until the MRI, no point in predicting..

I'm dreading logging in to SpursTalk tomorrow afternoon, that update could be fucking scary..

[Trainwreck2100]

that's either a sprained knee or a career ender

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lol odd dichotomy

[timtonymanu]

Agreed with Harlem. Not even sure I want to log onto ST or even tune into ESPN/NBATV.

[024]

:depressed

[Fabbs]

I really liked some of the cat praying photos some of you posted.

[Robinho]

why did he come back 2day??

the wiz are terrible he could have sit another game

[shyne]

looks like what happened to Brian Cushing when he tore his ACL earlier this year getting the back of his knee rolled up on. Praying for a miracle.

[HarlemHeat37]

Thunder lose Harden, Splitter emerges, Duncan's resurgence could all be false hope of the cruelest nature if that MRI comes back with an ACL tear, tbh..

[SpurPadre]

Fuck the super bowl tomorrow, the results of that MRI is all I care about tomorrow

[Juggity]

why did he come back 2day??

the wiz are terrible he could have sit another game

Could have happened any game.

This game, the next game, the previous game, you can't control it.

[siraulo23]

prepare for the worst tbh

this sucks so much, that looked real bad

[Amuseddaysleeper]

Did he really fucking say that?

Who? Me or Jeff McDonald?

[dbreiden83080]

Bad knee and major surgery could mean the end of his career.. Fuck....

[BatManu20]

This sucks. Hard.

[Kuestmaster]

He'll be back this season. 4-6 weeks at most.

[nkdlunch]

Bad knee and major surgery could mean the end of his career.. Fuck....

remove the "could" and replace with would and you have an accurate statement

[Andthentherewas21]

Anyone have any idea what time of day they usually go in for the MRI?

[spurraider21]

i dropped my faith years ago but i'll be praying until his mri results are in

[Man In Black]

You look at it. Get past the initial shock and then watch Tim get up. He gets a lift from Blair and Jack, and before he evens leans on them, he takes 2 steps and then puts his arms over them. The link doesn't show it, but he does the walk to the back and as he gets to behind the curtain, he starts walking on his own. The look on his face doesn't show a steady menacing grimace, it shows relief. Again, I'm an optimist. GO TIM GO!

[timvp]

Sean Elliott is being optimistic on the post game show. I doubt he heard anything yet but let's hope...

[Mugen]

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[Darkwaters]

You look at it. Get past the initial shock and then watch Tim get up. He gets a lift from Blair and Jack, and before he evens leans on them, he takes 2 steps and then puts his arms over them. The link doesn't show it, but he does the walk to the back and as he gets to behind the curtain, he starts walking on his own. The look on his face doesn't show a steady menacing grimace, it shows relief. Again, I'm an optimist. GO TIM GO!

I'm hopeful. But with things like this you just never know until the MRI. Everything else is pure speculation.

[timtonymanu]

You look at it. Get past the initial shock and then watch Tim get up. He gets a lift from Blair and Jack, and before he evens leans on them, he takes 2 steps and then puts his arms over them. The link doesn't show it, but he does the walk to the back and as he gets to behind the curtain, he starts walking on his own. The look on his face doesn't show a steady menacing grimace, it shows relief. Again, I'm an optimist. GO TIM GO!

I really hope you are right, MIB.

This forum overall is just depressing to scroll through right now.

[BatManu20]

You look at it. Get past the initial shock and then watch Tim get up. He gets a lift from Blair and Jack, and before he evens leans on them, he takes 2 steps and then puts his arms over them. The link doesn't show it, but he does the walk to the back and as he gets to behind the curtain, he starts walking on his own. The look on his face doesn't show a steady menacing grimace, it shows relief. Again, I'm an optimist. GO TIM GO!

True but most guys do walk away under their own power after ACL tears.. I'm preparing for the worst and hoping for the best.

[RD2191]

group prayer

[ginobilized]

I am not ready for the wheels to fall off today.....even false hope is still hope, right?

ugh!

[Andthentherewas21]

Small glimmer of hope even if it is the worst http://deadspin.com/5944550/how-did-logan-mankins-play-an-entire-season-with-a-torn-acl

[DapDaGenius]

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[Capt Bringdown]

There are five more games before the All-Star break. If Duncan was healthy enough to play last Saturday, how much extra is Pop supposed to sit him out? Just sit him out on back-to-backs and/or every game against a bad team?

Eventually Duncan had to play. Giving him a warmup before going out on the road for the RRT sounds like a more than reasonable plan to me.

Good point about the all star game. With regards to how much extra, I don't think there's an arbitrary rule. It's about good judgment.
Resting TD against the Wizards seems as comparably legitimate to me as resting him in back-to-back situations.

I think we've been "reasonable" enough these past few years with regards to piling up regular season wins.
Extending the Duncan years requires some outside-of-the-box thinking, and I applaud Pop's decision to rest TD against Miami as an example of that.
I would have like to have seen TD sat along those same lines tonight.

[look_at_g_shred]

Hopefully its the ankle sprain that made him give that grimace look.

[timvp]

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[cheguevara]

Rondo also bent his elbow 90 degrees the opposite way and his career wasn't over

tbh not a good comparison to compare someone to that freak Rondo

Didn't Rondo come back later in that same game after that disgusting backwards bend of the elbow?

Yeah Rondo is some kind of rubber superman plus hes what 25?

I remember when I was 25 I could take anything, now at 30s its a whole different ballgame. It's definitely a good sign Duncan stood and could "walk".

but still, I'd brace for the worst.

[RD2191]

lol, thanks timvp, i needed that

[timvp]

Stephen Jackson: "I don't know what's happening with Tim but I saw him walk out of here, so that's always good."




You can still walk even on a serious knee injury but it's relatively good news that he's apparently not in a wheelchair or on crutches or anything.

[HarlemHeat37]

The ankle sprain and knee sprain without any ligament damage means that Tim probably won't play again in February IMO..Sean himself also said that Tim will probably "take a few weeks off"(although like timvp said, he probably doesn't know anything of substance yet)..

If he returns by the first week of April, I'll be relieved..

[bklynspursfan]

Matthew R Tynan (@Matthew_Tynan)
FWIW: players in the locker room seem optimistic.
(https://twitter.com/Matthew_Tynan/status/297920227977592832)

[LakerHater]

Parker said he spoke to Duncan after injury. Take it with grain of salt, but was in good spirits, doesn't appear to anything too major

[timvp]

Matthew R Tynan (@Matthew_Tynan)
FWIW: players in the locker room seem optimistic.
(https://twitter.com/Matthew_Tynan/status/297920227977592832)

Let us hope.

[Robz4000]

Looked bad but he's had a couple injuries that looked serious where he was back relatively quick. That Warriors game back in 2011 he suffered a bad looking injury but was back in like a week or something. Hoping for the best.

[timtonymanu]

I'm just hoping for any return. I don't care if Duncan takes the next two months off. It will probably hurt our record, but I just want a healthy squad.

[bklynspursfan]

dan mccarney (@danmccarneysaen)
Parker said he spoke to Duncan after injury. Take it with grain of salt, but was in good spirits, doesn't appear to anything too major.
(https://twitter.com/danmccarneysaen/status/297920334911381504

[Andthentherewas21]

Maybe its the homer in me but, April 4th @ OKC, mark it down. The return of 21!

[lefty]

Now we 'll see how great TP is :D

[dougp]

Stephen Jackson: "I don't know what's happening with Tim but I saw him walk out of here, so that's always good."

You can still walk even on a serious knee injury but it's relatively good news that he's apparently not in a wheelchair or on crutches or anything.
The argument can be made that the Spurs would rather be precautious than to allow TD to further aggravate the injury. Just a thought.

[Leetonidas]

I've had a basketball knee injury before, and it wasn't even an ACL tear, just a sprain. Shit was one of the worst pains I've experienced in my life. The fact that Tim is mobile and walking on his own is great news.

[HI-FI]

damn, i didn't watch the game, i was out and about. i haven't even seen the injury, just logged in and saw the news.

hope and pray for the best. not much more to add really.

[spurraider21]

knowing scumbag stern he'll fine Duncan for flopping on that play

[ElNono]

If he's back in late March I'm buying that knee brace a beer, tbh...

[lefty]

I guess we'll have to sign Oden after all. so he can share a hospital room with Timmy

[mute]

My friend tore her ACL in November of 2011. She didn't even realize it and only got surgery done 8 months ago.

[PingPong]

You are too negative tbh...

[timtonymanu]

What was the overall attitude of the Celtics' players and Doc after the game where Rondo hurt himself? Before the ACL news?

[spurraider21]

If he's back in late March I'm buying that knee brace a beer, tbh...

[NRHector]

If he's back in late March I'm buying that knee brace a beer, tbh...

:lol hell i'll buy it a bottle of tequila

[Obstructed_View]

why did he come back 2day??

the wiz are terrible he could have sit another game

Yeah, but it was a fluke. Could have happened any time. You're still at anger/bargaining.

[SpurPadre]

Pop will probably play it extra-cautious with Manu now. I wouldn't be surprised if he only plays in garbage time until the last few weeks of the season.

[bklynspursfan]

What was the overall attitude of the Celtics' players and Doc after the game where Rondo hurt himself? Before the ACL news?

I don't think the players knew till after the heat game only Doc knew. They knew he was hurt but not about the ACL

[NRHector]

proud of Timmy he's a fucking warrior tbh

[timtonymanu]

Get over the "Pop shouldn't have played him" BS. Would you rather Duncan sit out for so long and possibly get hurt during the RRT? Like many have said, it was a freak accident. Y'all would keep your mouth shut if Duncan didn't get hurt tonight.

[slayermin]

The news just showed TD walk to the locker room on his own.

[Mugen]

What was the overall attitude of the Celtics' players and Doc after the game where Rondo hurt himself? Before the ACL news?

Generally good until KG started talking about everyone's wives and dead relatives.

[lefty]

its not looking too bad, TBH


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[Man In Black]

No guys, most people do not walk under their own power after ACL tears. I spent many months as a trainer in college and have seen lots of them. Most of the cry like a baby and need the support just to even stand. The injuries we've see in pro sports lately shows that modern medicine has moved so much with regards to the knee. AP was not supposed to lead the NFL in rushing after such a devastating injury but he did. A few seasons ago, Philip Rivers had torn his ACL, the day after he gets arthroscopic surgery to clear some cartilage, and it back on the field a week later.
If Tim's done this season, that sucks but I don't think that's the case. I do hope that they send him to see Dr. James Andrews though, that doctor is the king of orthopedists. He did both AP and Rivers and every superior athlete in any North American Sports League. His is the opinion we all want the most.

[Andthentherewas21]

Generally good until KG started talking about everyone's wives and dead relatives.

Clearly they don't talk to KG that often then, those are basically his version of a handshake and "hi, how are you doing"

[anakha]

Clearly you were thinking it. Why bother bringing Timmy back?

Hardly. I was commenting on some of the initial reactions in the GDT.

[Bruno]

Players being optimistic is a great news. It doesn't only indicate that Tim is feeling fine but also that stability tests done on his knee went well. We won't know for sure without a MRI but it sounds good so far. :tu

[Cane]

Clearly they don't talk to KG that often then, those are basically his version of a handshake and "hi, how are you doing"

:lol

[tim_duncan_fan]

I'm not gonna breathe again until the results are in, tbh.

[bklynspursfan]

Tim walking without any assistance is big.. Post game I mean

[timvp]

Players being optimistic is a great news. It doesn't only indicate that Tim is feeling fine but also that stability tests done on his knee went well. We won't know for sure without a MRI but it sounds good so far. :tu

Pretty true. A trainer can usually tell if the ACL or MCL is completely torn within a matter of seconds. So, yeah, it's good that there's a depressed mood.

But still, a partial tear (which would still be a season ender) usually takes an MRI to find.

[TDMVPDPOY]

duncan just save blairs job....

[Proxy]

Didn't watch the game... praying with all you guys that it isn't something season ending. Screw my satisfaction as a fan of the team doing well... Tim's just a good guy having a great season and I'm wishing the best for him.

[Spurs_Be_Beastin']

FUCK YOU WEBSTER.

:flipoff


jump off a bridge dickhead

[Andthentherewas21]

Quick question: Say it his ACL is torn but he has some movement and stability. Assuming we can make it pass the first round or two in the playoffs, do you think he could at least give it a go in the WCF or Finals? Not to be a downer, but I'd rather see Duncan out there on one leg than Bonner and Blair with two especially if its something career ending

[timvp]

Quick question: Say it his ACL is torn but he has some movement and stability. Assuming we can make it pass the first round or two in the playoffs, do you think he could at least give it a go in the WCF or Finals? Not to be a downer, but I'd rather see Duncan out there on one leg than Bonner and Blair with two especially if its something career ending

No if it's a torn ACL, he's out until the beginning of next season at the earliest. Considering his age, he probably would need until ~Dec. of next season to return.

[Strategic]

duncan just save blairs job....

It might make it a little more interesting with the trade deadline approaching.

[Juggity]

Quick question: Say it his ACL is torn but he has some movement and stability. Assuming we can make it pass the first round or two in the playoffs, do you think he could at least give it a go in the WCF or Finals? Not to be a downer, but I'd rather see Duncan out there on one leg than Bonner and Blair with two especially if its something career ending

Envisioning a Willis Reed scenario are we

[TDMVPDPOY]

dunno how long duncan will be out, but that life time achievement award DPOY is going out the window :(:(

[Truckules]

If there's a tear, next season is Duncan's last.

[slayermin]

For whatever it's worth, Jeff Sheen was saying on game react that the trainers wouldn't let him walk on his own if they thought he could make the injury worse. But then again, you couldn't make a torn ACL worse than it is.