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AussieFanKurt
02-03-2013, 04:51 PM
who's the worst player you've seen play for them?

AussieFanKurt
02-03-2013, 04:54 PM
Chris Quinn or Garrett Temple for me

EJFischer
02-03-2013, 04:59 PM
Effectiveness versus cost? Richard Jefferson.

Libri
02-03-2013, 05:01 PM
Ron Mercer

ontheraise
02-03-2013, 05:22 PM
Nick Van Exel (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/v/vanexni01.html)

Brunodf
02-03-2013, 05:23 PM
Bonner/Blair/Neal

cd98
02-03-2013, 05:41 PM
Charles Smith of the David Robinson era.

bigfan
02-03-2013, 05:44 PM
Recently Cherokee Parks.

RudyRay
02-03-2013, 05:46 PM
Mengke Bateer....

RudyRay
02-03-2013, 05:47 PM
Oh wait....Zarko Paspaj or Uwe Blab!!!

Raven
02-03-2013, 05:57 PM
udoka and gooden

Texas_Ranger
02-03-2013, 06:15 PM
won't mention the guys that I never expected something big from like Bonner. So i'll say Damon Stodamire.

exstatic
02-03-2013, 06:16 PM
Tie between Lloyd Daniels and Negele Knight, with an honorable mention to Flight White and Pops Mensa Bonsu.

Drew2354
02-03-2013, 06:17 PM
Had high hopes for Jefferson...what a let down.

baseline bum
02-03-2013, 06:26 PM
Mike Brittain

http://thedraftreview.com/history/drafted1985/images/mike-brittain.jpg

Funny story... at a draft party one time I asked the Spurs coach (Bob Weiss) why he brought Mike Brittain back and he shook his head, kind of in disgust. :lol

racm
02-03-2013, 06:33 PM
Bonner/Blair/Neal are all-stars compared to the punchline known as James White/Richard Jefferson tbh.

swaggerjackson
02-03-2013, 06:37 PM
As much as I like him off the court, Danny Ferry always made me cringe when he checked in.

maverick1948
02-03-2013, 06:42 PM
Malik Hairston. Had 3 seasons to prove he belonged and failed. There are a few 1 shot wonders but Hairston plain failed to do a thing.

Samr.
02-03-2013, 07:00 PM
Andrew Gaze is up there...Del Negro was Gary Neal at point guard before the Spurs put Gary Neal at point guard....Mario Ellie once he got his contract was unbearable to say the least....Those that think Bonner gets Pop-love clearly were blessed without having to experience Carl Herrera's maddening amount of playing time....Charles Smith, Vernon Maxwell, and Cadillac Anderson were all sad shells of their former selves, and this was on a team where the ghost of Dominique Wilkins was the leading scorer....JR Reid still pisses me off....Samaki Walker was supposed to be good, but his basketball skills lost the battle against his appetite.

Capt Bringdown
02-03-2013, 07:04 PM
Rod Strickland - the ability was there, but no heart or character

Capt Bringdown
02-03-2013, 07:08 PM
Charles Smith, Vernon Maxwell, and Cadillac Anderson were all sad shells of their former selves.

Didn't Maxwell go on to Houston after playing for SA first? Maxwell was always erratic, but he did make a significant contribution to Houston's 94 title. I think Hakeem kept him under control a bit.

KenziE
02-03-2013, 07:14 PM
Michael Finley , tbh

Calispursfan11
02-03-2013, 07:17 PM
How could ya'll forget Jackie Butler tbh...

Samr.
02-03-2013, 07:21 PM
How could ya'll forget Jackie Butler tbh...

Because Jackie Butler wasn't a "player," he was merely a placeholder. A placeholder for a real center.

MI21
02-03-2013, 07:22 PM
In before Bonner.

look_at_g_shred
02-03-2013, 08:07 PM
Udoka and bateer

capek
02-03-2013, 08:16 PM
James "Flight" White is up there. Whatever garbage time minutes he got, he'd just float around until a chance came for a big time dunk. Which never really worked out for him iirc. :lol

DrunkTXLabrat
02-03-2013, 09:03 PM
Andrew Gaze is up there...Del Negro was Gary Neal at point guard before the Spurs put Gary Neal at point guard....Mario Ellie once he got his contract was unbearable to say the least....Those that think Bonner gets Pop-love clearly were blessed without having to experience Carl Herrera's maddening amount of playing time....Charles Smith, Vernon Maxwell, and Cadillac Anderson were all sad shells of their former selves, and this was on a team where the ghost of Dominique Wilkins was the leading scorer....JR Reid still pisses me off....Samaki Walker was supposed to be good, but his basketball skills lost the battle against his appetite.

carl herrera was terrible. he's the first one to come to my mind.

DrunkTXLabrat
02-03-2013, 09:04 PM
Malik Hairston. Had 3 seasons to prove he belonged and failed. There are a few 1 shot wonders but Hairston plain failed to do a thing.

hairston was awesome. i was pissed when i heard he wasn't coming back from the lock out.

ginobilized
02-03-2013, 09:44 PM
Ron Mercer and Mengke Bateer

exstatic
02-03-2013, 09:56 PM
hairston was awesome. i was pissed when i heard he wasn't coming back from the lock out.

Hairston was gone one full season before the lockout.

chapnis
02-03-2013, 10:01 PM
No Sean Marks yet? Haha

TDMVPDPOY
02-03-2013, 10:08 PM
carl herrera was terrible. he's the first one to come to my mind.

he had like a good with the rockets championship season, then comes to the spurs not the same fkn player he was....

andrew gaze was past his prime when he came into the nba

no mention derek anderson, mr. loyalty?

SpurSpurSpurs
02-03-2013, 10:15 PM
Andrew Gaze is up there...

I'm pretty sure Gaze was a solid player when he was here. He was one of my favorite Spur shooter back then. Probably his defense suck because he was old when he was with the Spurs?

ffadicted
02-03-2013, 10:30 PM
Dollar for Dollar and at expected value, it's gotta be RJ

Seventyniner
02-03-2013, 10:30 PM
Mengke Bateer for me. (Dis?)honorable mention to Samaki Walker.

bigfan
02-03-2013, 10:54 PM
Re Strickland, yeah he was an ass but a damn good PG, one of the top three we ever had with TP and Moore being the other two.

Johnny RIngo
02-03-2013, 10:56 PM
Not the worst but I HATED seeing the "centerpiece" aka Keith Bogans on the court

DrunkTXLabrat
02-03-2013, 11:05 PM
Hairston was gone one full season before the lockout.

so sue me, i go off memory. and my memory aint the best. either way, i wasn't happy whenever i heard hairston was gone. i thought he needed more minutes.

i was a part time watcher in the derek anderson days. i remember thinkin he was better than steve smith.

GrandeDavid
02-03-2013, 11:06 PM
Jack Haley.

DrunkTXLabrat
02-03-2013, 11:07 PM
bogans was pretty rough. oh how has RASHO not come up.

Mikesatx
02-03-2013, 11:16 PM
Stone hands Sydney Green may have been my least favorite.

TDMVPDPOY
02-03-2013, 11:23 PM
u guys know history would be different if

anderson didnt bolt during FA, we wouldnt have gino or parker either one on the books, same with jax

jax bolting in FA due to low ball offer, costs the spurs 03/04 >>> anything we signed that year to replace him

lol idiots calling out the greatest center RASHO NESTEROVIC, it was either the GOAT or that clown Kandiman in FA..take ur pick..

hated all the backup PGs wasted draft picks last 5 seasons

EricB
02-03-2013, 11:25 PM
Mengke Bateer and it's not even close.

spurs1990
02-03-2013, 11:32 PM
AFAIC Vernon Maxwell will be a Spur for life.
http://antiquesimagearchive.com/item_images/medium/31/23/52-02.jpg

TwoHandJam
02-03-2013, 11:51 PM
Wow. Lots of good candidates here but no mention of Beno Udrih yet? Or Hedo(n't)?

crc21209
02-04-2013, 12:01 AM
Damn. Tough question after growing up watching the Spurs since I was a kid. I'd have to say Cherokee Parks, Mengke Bateer, and Ron Mercer just to name a few...

DieHardSpursFan1537
02-04-2013, 12:06 AM
Udoka.....then they brought his sorry ass back again. Jefferson was a let down considering how much payroll he took up.

TDMVPDPOY
02-04-2013, 12:10 AM
actually all the wankers who played on the rockets 2 champion runs who ended up on the spurs later....lol why did the spurs even went after them clowns?......excluding horry

LakerHater
02-04-2013, 12:18 AM
Corey Alexander, Chucky Brown

gospursgojas
02-04-2013, 12:21 AM
Felton spencer

Spur|n|Austin
02-04-2013, 12:22 AM
Effectiveness versus cost? Richard Jefferson.

ajballer4
02-04-2013, 12:22 AM
Bateer was so damn bad

Das Texan
02-04-2013, 12:30 AM
Mike Smrek was amazing.

EricB
02-04-2013, 12:31 AM
Wow. Lots of good candidates here but no mention of Beno Udrih yet? Or Hedo(n't)?

Are they really the worst players though? Worse than 12th men like Bateer and other stiffs who were just bodies? Come on...
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EricB
02-04-2013, 12:32 AM
actually all the wankers who played on the rockets 2 champion runs who ended up on the spurs later....lol why did the spurs even went after them clowns?......excluding horry

Yeah that Mario Elie never helped...

KL2
02-04-2013, 12:35 AM
Udoka in his last year, omfg he was bad. Finley towards the end of his career too, he'd occasionally make a jumper or a 3 but his defense was the worst I've ever seen out of a Spurs player, especially when Pop put him at PF.

MI21
02-04-2013, 12:41 AM
I hate to this being Australian, but it might be Shane Heal.

6 games and 72 minutes played. A shooter who shot 29% from the field and 22% from 3. Equal amount of turnovers as assists...

RIP Whottt, btw.

dav4463
02-04-2013, 12:43 AM
It's a tie between Wiley Peck and Sylvester Norris.

Jumi
02-04-2013, 12:45 AM
Jaren Jackson!!

It wasn't so much as him being bad, but more like he was useless! I always wondered what was his purpose for being on the floor! Maybe the "Spur's System" has to have a guy that's invisible while you're watching the game, but when you check the box score you're like, "Oh yeah! I forgot about him!" Dude! I remember playing NBA Live back in the day and rushing to take him outta the game! Dude sucked in real life and in the video game!

blkroadrunners
02-04-2013, 12:51 AM
Bateer.

Skoobz
02-04-2013, 12:53 AM
As a starter, Keith Friggin Bogans. As a bencher Soft ass Samaki Walker.

baseline bum
02-04-2013, 12:58 AM
Did some ignorant fuck really say Mario Elie?

Sean Cagney
02-04-2013, 01:03 AM
Recently Cherokee Parks.

LOL he was bad! Udoka here sucked too for the hype he got when they signed him. Parks sucked though.

Sean Cagney
02-04-2013, 01:07 AM
Michael Finley , tbh

You are crazy, he hit a ton of threes in that run in 07 during the playoffs! He hit some game winners as well as his game tie against PHX in 08. I remember the Mavs series 06 too, big shots and played his ass off! Far from the worst player who put on a Spurs uni. Those who do shit in a playoff run get a pass, those who never did shit in a run do not.
Jaren Jackson!!

It wasn't so much as him being bad, but more like he was useless! I always wondered what was his purpose for being on the floor! Maybe the "Spur's System" has to have a guy that's invisible while you're watching the game, but when you check the box score you're like, "Oh yeah! I forgot about him!" Dude! I remember playing NBA Live back in the day and rushing to take him outta the game! Dude sucked in real life and in the video game!Atleast he hit alot of threes in a series unlike BONNER has ever done, so he gets a pass there as the worst.
actually all the wankers who played on the rockets 2 champion runs who ended up on the spurs later....lol why did the spurs even went after them clowns?......excluding horry

For the love of GOD I hope you are not talkinga bout Elie because he was huge during their first title run.

AussieFanKurt
02-04-2013, 01:10 AM
I dont remember Bateer... who the fuck was he

Darius Bieber
02-04-2013, 01:15 AM
I dont remember Bateer... who the fuck was he

Garbage time Chinese (Inner Mongolia) player who could barely hit the rims on FTs (0% for the Season). Won a ring with the Spurs in 2003 (SOMEHOW managed to stay the entirety of the 2002-2003 season), then batted off to China to show all his friends his NBA Ring. I think he's an actor in China now..

Also, surprisingly he was 33% from the 3 point line that year. WTF was he doing shooting those? His three point percentage was better than his FG percentage... :lol

RuffnReadyOzStyle
02-04-2013, 01:27 AM
Amusing thread. :tu


Jaren Jackson!!

It wasn't so much as him being bad, but more like he was useless! I always wondered what was his purpose for being on the floor! Maybe the "Spur's System" has to have a guy that's invisible while you're watching the game, but when you check the box score you're like, "Oh yeah! I forgot about him!" Dude! I remember playing NBA Live back in the day and rushing to take him outta the game! Dude sucked in real life and in the video game!

No way. He was by no means a rounded player, but he hit some huge shots in 1999.


Did some ignorant fuck really say Mario Elie?

Yup... :rolleyes

For mine it was Not-so-nasty Nick Van Exel. He was freakin atrocious by the time he got to us, 2 steps slower than the slowest NBA player other than himself...

TwoHandJam
02-04-2013, 01:28 AM
Are they really the worst players though? Worse than 12th men like Bateer and other stiffs who were just bodies? Come on...
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Citing a 12th man is the easy way out imo. Of course the 12th man is supposed to be garbage. Let's face it, Bateer was just a 300 lb slab of meat that Pop could trot out that wouldn't be completely bulldozed by Shaq and was good for 6 hard fouls while Tim rested. He's a hired goon for one purpose only, in the mold of Mark Bryant, Tony Massenburg and Kevin Willis. Remember the days when Pop always had some muscle on the bench to deal with Shaq?

Nah, imo the worst kind of guys were guys like Udrih and Hedo. Both talented and both brought in to be difference makers and they both ended up being mentally fragile when it counted the most. Maddening as hell given their potential. Did anyone really think Bateer was a long term prospect for us? Please.

Old School 44
02-04-2013, 01:39 AM
Playoff Bonner. Van Exel. Alfredrick Hughes.

timvp
02-04-2013, 01:53 AM
Some of you guys named some pretty damn good players, tbh.

Zarko Paspalj had some pretty huge hype when he came over. I remember one report called him the Yugoslavian Michael Jordan. Unfortunately, he was terrible. Couldn't play defense and didn't really understand how to run an offensive set. Looking back on his stats, he beasted in Europe. Not sure what happened in San Antonio but he just couldn't hang. He was mostly known for chain smoking outside the locker room at halftime.

From his Wiki:


NBA stint
In 1989 Paspalj became one of the first Europeans to move to the NBA, joining the San Antonio Spurs despite going undrafted.[3] He ended up with the Spurs due to Gregg Popovich, the team's assistant coach at the time, who met 23-year-old Paspalj at a warm-up tournament in Germany in July where the Yugoslav national team was preparing for Eurobasket 1989. Upon arriving to the United States, Paspalj even ended up living in Popovich's house for a few weeks as he acclimatized to the new surroundings.

However, Paspalj's NBA move turned out to be far from successful as he featured in only 28 games,[3] scoring a total of 72 points in 181 minutes (2.6 points[3] and 6½ minutes per game) of action. He also drew the ire of head coach Larry Brown by admitting he played "no defense, only offense."[3] He also confessed a weakness for Pizza Hut and Marlboros.[3] However, Paspalj did develop a cult following among fans, evidenced by the Terry Cummings-penned song "The Mark of Zarko", which was sung to the tune of "The Mark of Zorro."[3] Eventually he was cut from the team three days before the 1990 NBA Playoffs started, as the team officials wanted to make roster room for veteran forward Mike Mitchell.[3]

:lol Good thing Pop didn't give up on the foreign player route.






Oh, and he's before my time but the one correct answer to this question has to be Alfredrick Hughes. The Spurs picked him in the first round of the 1985 draft that was loaded with studs. He flamed out after one season; it doesn't look like he ever played anywhere again. The previous pick was Karl Malone. Subsequent picks include Joe Dumars, Terry Porter, AC Green, Ty Corbin, Arvydas Sabonis and a number of others who made it.




In recent years, I have to give a special shoutout to Jack McClinton. I don't know if I've ever seen another player be so obviously not an NBA caliber player within his first three minutes of summer league.

Snaq O'Meal
02-04-2013, 02:12 AM
I dont remember Bateer... who the fuck was he

He's the bloke who did this to Shaq:

http://www.sportnews.mn/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/1_6-12-44-13_20031113181351.jpg

lefty
02-04-2013, 02:14 AM
No Sean Marks yet? Haha

but did he play?

Snaq O'Meal
02-04-2013, 02:14 AM
I'm pretty sure Gaze was a solid player when he was here. He was one of my favorite Spur shooter back then. Probably his defense suck because he was old when he was with the Spurs?

I've watched lots of his games when he was still in his prime with the Melbourne Tigers. His defence pretty much sucked throughout his career. But he's a very heady player, sort of like the NBL's version of Larry Bird with a bit of CP3's dirty antics.

chapnis
02-04-2013, 02:15 AM
but did he play?

He's probably made more contributions to the club since he retired than when he was playing...

lefty
02-04-2013, 02:18 AM
lol


And FWIW, Haley is the GOAT cheerleader

chapnis
02-04-2013, 02:21 AM
lol


And FWIW, Haley is the GOAT cheerleader

Patty Mills and his towel beg to differ.

lefty
02-04-2013, 02:24 AM
Patty Mills and his towel beg to differ.

no fucking way

Haley has been consistent throughout his career with the Nets, Lakers, Spurs, Bulls, etc

Dude never took a night off

mexpurs21
02-04-2013, 02:29 AM
Charlie Ward

RuffnReadyOzStyle
02-04-2013, 02:35 AM
Citing a 12th man is the easy way out imo. Of course the 12th man is supposed to be garbage. Let's face it, Bateer was just a 300 lb slab of meat that Pop could trot out that wouldn't be completely bulldozed by Shaq and was good for 6 hard fouls while Tim rested. He's a hired goon for one purpose only, in the mold of Mark Bryant, Tony Massenburg and Kevin Willis. Remember the days when Pop always had some muscle on the bench to deal with Shaq?

Nah, imo the worst kind of guys were guys like Udrih and Hedo. Both talented and both brought in to be difference makers and they both ended up being mentally fragile when it counted the most. Maddening as hell given their potential. Did anyone really think Bateer was a long term prospect for us? Please.

Fair response to a re-interpreted question. :tu


I've watched lots of his games when he was still in his prime with the Melbourne Tigers. His defence pretty much sucked throughout his career. But he's a very heady player, sort of like the NBL's version of Larry Bird with a bit of CP3's dirty antics.

:tu

I wouldn't have called Gaze "dirty" though, he just used a lot of gamesmanship. ;)


Charlie Ward

Nice call to come up with someone original this far into the thread. :D

TDMVPDPOY
02-04-2013, 02:44 AM
the only good thing about bateer.......when he had a role in that DON LI Movie, throwing coconuts killing people....

cherylsteele
02-04-2013, 02:44 AM
Playoff Bonner. Van Exel. Alfredrick Hughes.
I was going to say him as well.
Chuck Nevitt
Uwe Blab
Peter Gudmundsson

Spursfanfromafar
02-04-2013, 02:45 AM
For me, the Spur who I thought was the worst on the floor and repeatedly hurt the team was Roger Mason Jr in his last season. Just infuriating to watch.

admiralsnackbar
02-04-2013, 03:06 AM
Charlie Ward

I was wondering when Mr. Heisman would be mentioned. :lol Might add Jamal McCaskill. Ron Mercer and Jack "Cigar" Haley are definitely in the conversation.

Beno gets special mention for letting himself be caught in a slow-mo half-court trap in the FINALS vs DEEEEEEEEtroit and for having a deleterious effect on American sovereignty by smuggling the first man-purse onto the mainland.

KenziE
02-04-2013, 03:13 AM
You are crazy, he hit a ton of threes in that run in 07 during the playoffs! He hit some game winners as well as his game tie against PHX in 08. I remember the Mavs series 06 too, big shots and played his ass off! Far from the worst player who put on a Spurs uni. Those who do shit in a playoff run get a pass, those who never did shit in a run do not. Atleast he hit alot of threes in a series unlike BONNER has ever done, so he gets a pass there as the worst.

For the love of GOD I hope you are not talkinga bout Elie because he was huge during their first title run.

you never answered the OP tbh ..... Michael Finley for me , pick your own scrub

spursparker9
02-04-2013, 04:59 AM
Jefferson.

Most hated Spurs also.

slick'81
02-04-2013, 05:27 AM
bonner playoffs for sure overall fck thats tough maybe bonner or probably-jack haley

hsxvvd
02-04-2013, 06:13 AM
Shane Heal.

Hands down, worst player to ever play for the spurs. He was useless in the NBL, and somehow he got a contract with the Spurs.

iManu
02-04-2013, 06:15 AM
I've never felt so helpless as when Udoka's on the floor. Though the fact that I was kind of excited when we signed Bogans (because I just remembered him shooting 3's pretty well at Orlando) just made me have a hallucination. Keith Bogans plays basketball like a cross between how farts smell and how it feels to puke in your mouth.

iManu
02-04-2013, 06:18 AM
I used to think I saw dead people, turns out it was just Bogans.

101A
02-04-2013, 06:27 AM
Effectiveness versus cost? Richard Jefferson.

By that metric: Charles Smith

Em-City
02-04-2013, 06:52 AM
Shane Heal.

Hands down, worst player to ever play for the spurs. He was useless in the NBL, and somehow he got a contract with the Spurs.


Lies...


NBL league records

First in assists per game in 1990 (8.3/24 games)
First in assists per game in 2002 (7.5/29 games)
Third in most points in a game (61 in 1994)
Third in most assists in a game (20 in 1990)
Second and third in most three-pointers made in a game (12 in 1994 and 2001)

TDMVPDPOY
02-04-2013, 07:12 AM
Lies...


NBL league records

First in assists per game in 1990 (8.3/24 games)
First in assists per game in 2002 (7.5/29 games)
Third in most points in a game (61 in 1994)
Third in most assists in a game (20 in 1990)
Second and third in most three-pointers made in a game (12 in 1994 and 2001)


the most overrated chucker to play the game....he only started winning when gaze retired, then he had the benefit of a watered down league where the team he was playing that won a couple of rings by hiring import mercenaries coat riding them to rings....

SpurSpurSpurs
02-04-2013, 08:26 AM
I've watched lots of his games when he was still in his prime with the Melbourne Tigers. His defence pretty much sucked throughout his career. But he's a very heady player, sort of like the NBL's version of Larry Bird with a bit of CP3's dirty antics.

Still, for me, he's name should not be mentioned here. There are other things that compensates his unreliable defense. Uhh, nevermind. Just saw this...

http://www.basketballreference.com/players/playerpage.htm?ilkid=GAZEAN01

I was young back then when he used to play. :depressed

Obstructed_View
02-04-2013, 08:44 AM
Sidney Green.

Obstructed_View
02-04-2013, 08:53 AM
bogans was pretty rough. oh how has RASHO not come up.

Because Rasho was a great shot blocker and the Spurs' defense was great with him. He had a bad contract.

mingus
02-04-2013, 08:54 AM
That played, Keith "T-Rex Arms" Bogans. Also hard to find a worse player than RMJ when he hit rock bottom here. Bateer and Parks were bad too.

elemento
02-04-2013, 08:55 AM
Bobby Simmons

Simply putrid in the few minutes he played for SA

SpurSpurSpurs
02-04-2013, 09:03 AM
Because Rasho was a great shot blocker and the Spurs' defense was great with him. He had a bad contract.

He has a reliable outside shot too, right?

Drom John
02-04-2013, 10:07 AM
While my gut says Cherokee Parks, that's defining "worst" as sleezeball.
The stats say Irv Kiffin.

DBMethos
02-04-2013, 10:18 AM
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Obstructed_View
02-04-2013, 10:33 AM
He has a reliable outside shot too, right?

Yep. He was a good compliment to Duncan. The biggest problem with him was lack of aggression. They used to do dunk drills with him to try to get him to be more assertive offensively. He was a very courageous defender, but not so much when it came time to score.

Dex
02-04-2013, 10:49 AM
Effectiveness versus cost? Richard Jefferson.


Ron Mercer


Nick Van Exel (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/v/vanexni01.html)


Mengke Bateer....


How could ya'll forget Jackie Butler tbh...

superbigtime
02-04-2013, 10:55 AM
Keith Bogans. Melvin Ely.

Samr.
02-04-2013, 11:07 AM
Mario Ellie, Jarren Jackson, RMJ all fall into the same category for be: they were borderline unbearable to watch, but only AFTER they got their big contracts.

Looking back, it's amazing how little talent, relatively, that you needed to have on your team back then in order to win a championship. It used to be where all you needed was a star and someone to dish the ball to him. Now you've gotta have at least a big three, plus some solid front court depth, plus a PF who can shoot threes, plus a bench that could start anywhere else. And that's just to get into the picture of contenting teams.

Solid D
02-04-2013, 02:03 PM
While my gut says Cherokee Parks, that's defining "worst" as sleezeball.
The stats say Irv Kiffin.

Kiffin was bad...a blip on the screen. I'd probably go with Chris Welp or Ike Diogu. I could not, in good conscience, vote for Mengke Bateer. Jimmy Chang, his better half, was too important to the success of the team that year. They were a package deal. Nope, I'm sorry. I'll never speak poorly of Mengke "Concrete Overshoes" Bateer.

Plus, I think Bateer most certainly must've increased the sales numbers for British Knights in Mongolia.

Solid D
02-04-2013, 02:27 PM
Of course, I jest. I cheered for Mengke and loved having him and Jimmy on the team. Whether the least productive Spurs' player was Welp, Diogu, Cory Crowder or whomever...they at least got to the NBA. That's something most people here, including me, would love to do but would never get a snif.

Leetonidas
02-04-2013, 02:29 PM
Mengkee Bateer, Cherokee Parks, Richard Jefferson, Keith Bogans, post-2008 Michael Finley

Leetonidas
02-04-2013, 02:32 PM
Thanks for reminding me of what a waste of space Ike Diogu was, totally forgot about him

phxspurfan
02-04-2013, 02:55 PM
tie: Mark Bryant and Cherokee Parks

Dr. John R. Brinkley
02-04-2013, 03:06 PM
You have to go to the mid to late 80s during the post Gervin/pre Robinson era, aka the Dark Ages, to find players like the hirsute Kurt Nimphius...clearly the worst Spur of all time.

timtonymanu
02-04-2013, 03:34 PM
:lmao I forgot Diogu even played for the Spurs. I also remember Austin Croshere was a Spur for about 3 games. :lol

AussieFanKurt
02-04-2013, 04:46 PM
Shane Heal.

Hands down, worst player to ever play for the spurs. He was useless in the NBL, and somehow he got a contract with the Spurs.

This was fucking good though:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3OCJBVgGHM

Hits 8 threes I think

mexicanjunior
02-04-2013, 05:03 PM
In comparison to expectations coming in and cost:

Richard Jefferson
Charles Smith
Nick Van Exel
Lloyd Daniels
JR Reid

Special shout out to Jerry Tarkanian for being the worst coach in his brief stint here.

mexicanjunior
02-04-2013, 05:05 PM
Forgot to mention Greg Sutton and Cory Alexander...both were abortions at PG.

superbigtime
02-04-2013, 05:17 PM
Nick van Exel rhymes with 'garbage.'

AussieFanKurt
02-04-2013, 05:20 PM
:lmao I forgot Diogu even played for the Spurs. I also remember Austin Croshere was a Spur for about 3 games. :lol

Oh christ.. forgot about them :lmao

ThePop
02-04-2013, 05:20 PM
I don't really count guys like Bateer who didn't play. Off the top of my head I'll say Udoka.

LarryDavid
02-04-2013, 05:33 PM
UTSA's own, Devin Brown

Mal
02-04-2013, 05:40 PM
Bogans, Udoka, Quinn were bad.

Man In Black
02-04-2013, 05:42 PM
For Charles Smith- Was it the 6'10 inch PF that used to give DRob matchup issues when he was a Clipper?
Or was it Charles Spider Smith, the 6'5 inch wing who supposedly had necrosis of the hip and got sent to Europe?


There is a reason that Baseline Bum came up with the name HITA for Steve Smith.

mexicanjunior
02-04-2013, 05:43 PM
Also forgot to mention Dwayne Schintzius, Pete Myers (who would later replace Jordan during his baseball career) and Ira Newble...

Mel_13
02-04-2013, 05:49 PM
The Spurs have a pretty good record in finding useful players in various European leagues, but Marcus Haislip was just horrible.

timtonymanu
02-04-2013, 05:51 PM
^

:lol I remember someone starting a thread saying Haislip was the next Rasheed Wallace.

mexicanjunior
02-04-2013, 05:53 PM
For me, it was Charles Smith the PF...when we picked him up I thought we had finally given Robinson his first real running mate in the front court since pre-injury TC...he ended up being awful.

Snaq O'Meal
02-04-2013, 06:05 PM
Seems like everyone has forgotten Steve Smith aka HITA.

AussieFanKurt
02-04-2013, 07:50 PM
^

:lol I remember someone starting a thread saying Haislip was the next Rasheed Wallace.

Grey one eyed spurfan thinks every player signed will turn into one of the best :lol

Capt Bringdown
02-04-2013, 08:15 PM
David Greenwood

Prime Time
02-04-2013, 08:23 PM
I'm a pretty new Spurs fan (Only about 6 seasons now)

But if I remember correctly, Austin Croshere was terrible

silverblk mystix
02-04-2013, 09:08 PM
Worst all-time;

#8- Dallas Comegys
#7 - Leon Wood
#6 - Wiley Peck

#5 - Frankie Sanders


#4 - Skeeter Swift


#3 - Goo Kennedy







#2 - Mike Popovich Finley





#1 - Matt Popovich Bonner



Thanks for making me remember these idiots.

pgardn
02-04-2013, 09:24 PM
Alfredrick "The Great", Hughes for a high draft pick.

Wiley Peck.

AussieFanKurt
02-04-2013, 09:36 PM
I really don't remember Finley being that bad..

spurraider21
02-04-2013, 11:06 PM
Shane Heal

baseline bum
02-04-2013, 11:15 PM
Oh, and he's before my time but the one correct answer to this question has to be Alfredrick Hughes. The Spurs picked him in the first round of the 1985 draft that was loaded with studs. He flamed out after one season; it doesn't look like he ever played anywhere again. The previous pick was Karl Malone. Subsequent picks include Joe Dumars, Terry Porter, AC Green, Ty Corbin, Arvydas Sabonis and a number of others who made it.

LOL, did Hughes even last the season? Shit was hilarious going to Hemisfair and hearing people rag on Alfrederick the Great every time he checked into a game. Funny you mention Corbin, since the Spurs drafted him and then never fucking played him before he blew up in Cleveland and Atlanta. LOL Cotton Fitzsimmons. He was probably the only person who the fans hated on more than Hughes at games.

baseline bum
02-04-2013, 11:23 PM
You have to go to the mid to late 80s during the post Gervin/pre Robinson era, aka the Dark Ages, to find players like the hirsute Kurt Nimphius...clearly the worst Spur of all time.

My favorite Nimphius memory was when he hit a half court shot at the buzzer, it was late and got waved off, and the crowd got flat-out hostile. The whole arena turned from class to Raider fan in about 10 seconds.

Solid D
02-04-2013, 11:35 PM
who's the worst player you've seen play for them?

AussieFanKurt
02-04-2013, 11:39 PM
Good one by me

beachwood
02-05-2013, 11:54 AM
Richard Jefferson. Lowest basketball IQ I've ever seen. 2nd is tied between Salim Stoudamire and James Gist.

callo1
02-05-2013, 12:15 PM
Easy, Bateer

manufan10
02-05-2013, 12:24 PM
If we go by expectations + how they played before coming to the Spurs, then it has to be Dick Jefferson for me. The hype/excitement/expectations/solid previous season were all there, and Jefferson laid an egg.

MaNu4Tres
02-05-2013, 12:25 PM
I don't think its fair to mention players who were just invited to training camp or that were inactive the majority of the year.

I think of the relevant rotation players, 00'-01' Jaren Jackson and 10' Roger Mason have to be pretty high up there.

superbigtime
02-05-2013, 02:51 PM
Also forgot to mention Dwayne Schintzius, Pete Myers (who would later replace Jordan during his baseball career) and Ira Newble...


Wow yes Ira Newble was garbage. Him and his buddy Amal McCaskill. Pete Myers, I don't remember him playing with the Spurs but he sucked with Chicago. Schintzius, now let's not dance on a man's grave.

Spurs_Be_Beastin'
02-05-2013, 03:36 PM
Richard ' little dick ' jefferson
and todays gary neal ( was good his first year, then started the downhill climb since then )

slayermin
02-05-2013, 03:54 PM
Another vote for Sidney Green.

taps
02-05-2013, 04:06 PM
Jack Haley, thank you GrandeDavid.

Easiest question I've answered in months

timvp
02-05-2013, 04:26 PM
Speaking of Bateer, the story goes that Buford asked Duncan to list the strongest post defenders he has gone up against. Duncan tells Buford that the physically strongest player he has faced is Bateer. Buford then calls the Pistons and makes the trade. Buford was so clueless as to who the guy was that in the introductory press conference that he called him "Ming Batter" :lol

Bateer was just an emergency Shaq defender; every contending team had to have an extra bruiser or two at the end of their bench to prepare for Shaq. One of the reasons why there are fewer seven-footers these days is because there's no dominant low-post threat anymore anywhere in the league. If another Shaq-like player comes along, seven-footers would see a job spike.

Like Solid D said somewhere above, I didn't have a problem with him. For a deep bench big who never got time, he stayed engaged with what was going on. Jimmy Chang was awesome too.

FkLA
02-05-2013, 04:52 PM
I remember Jimmy Chang going apeshit in 03' when Kerr made those 3s to bring the Spurs back against the Mavs. He was hugging players left and right. :lol

007nites
02-05-2013, 05:37 PM
Mike Wilks

callo1
02-05-2013, 06:30 PM
I don't think its fair to mention players who were just invited to training camp or that were inactive the majority of the year.

I think of the relevant rotation players, 00'-01' Jaren Jackson and 10' Roger Mason have to be pretty high up there.

JJ earned his pay for the '99 playoff series with the Lakers imo.

baseline bum
02-05-2013, 06:36 PM
JJ earned his pay for the '99 playoff series with the Lakers imo.

Not to mention some of the big shots that buried New York in the first two games.

Beaverfuzz
02-05-2013, 06:58 PM
Walter Berry, there is nobody lower than he.

Sean Cagney
02-05-2013, 07:13 PM
you never answered the OP tbh ..... Michael Finley for me , pick your own scrub
I would definitely pick Udoka from a page I saw on him with about 400 pages when we signed him lol. He was never nearly as good on D as I thought he would be nor could shoot really well. Finley still hit some big shots though ;) I disagree but to each his own.

Sean Cagney
02-05-2013, 07:17 PM
I really don't remember Finley being that bad..

I don't get it either, he hit the most threes in a playoff game for the Spurs in their history and it's a game we needed! He also hit a ton of threes in that title run we had in 07. I remember his dunks against Dallas in 06 and his threes as well, he brought it in that series vs. his old team which most try too hard or just fail to show up. He also hit that three to send it to OT against PHX right? Fins hit some shots here, that alone makes him above some other clown on the list who never hit a big shot in the playoffs. I remember Finley against the Kings in that Kevin Martin freak layup game too, he hit some huge shots to get us back in it.


I think some are talking the later Finley who stayed and started too long, before that he was good.

I would like to say RON MERCER as well in here, we brought in guys to replace Jax and none of them came close (Hedo as well did not come close). I hated some moves that 04 season lol.

MaNu4Tres
02-05-2013, 07:39 PM
JJ earned his pay for the '99 playoff series with the Lakers imo.

Never said he didn't.

Dr. John R. Brinkley
02-05-2013, 07:47 PM
Walter Berry was my favorite player of the "Dark Ages". A lot of great scrubs from that era. Such as Ennis Whatley...aka Penis Twatley.

99 Problems
02-05-2013, 07:57 PM
Shane Heal.

Hands down, worst player to ever play for the spurs. He was useless in the NBL, and somehow he got a contract with the Spurs.

Heal had that good Olympics (Barca or Atlanta), played well against the Dream Team and got big head lines with the chesting of Sir Charles Barkley incident.

As for Andrew Gaze he was just one of those guys who regardless of where he was he was always a valuable asset, and everywhere he went he had success. In the Australian NBL he was like trying to match up Dirk (6,7 Dirk), at Seton Hall it all came together and knocked down shots on the road to that NCAA final. Went to (I think) 5 Olympics, knocking down so many shots. Then at Spurs just a nice shooter to have up the end of the bench who went home with a ring.

Obstructed_View
02-05-2013, 08:16 PM
http://timenewsfeed.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/ferris.png?w=640&h=264&crop=1

Ayyyyy batter batter batter batter sa-MING Batter!

Capt Bringdown
02-05-2013, 08:23 PM
Many have mentioned Lloyd Daniels. I recall that he was capable of playing well and even dominating games on occasion. However, according to Wikipedia:"he could not read above a third-grade level." Wouldn't that indicate something close to a medical definition of mental retardation?

I think it was a combination of drugs and inability to mentally comprehend what it meant to play in the NBA that finished his career.

senorglory
02-06-2013, 02:45 AM
Even now, when I see Rodman, I think of him sitting down on the sidelines, tossing his fucking shoes. Obviously a gifted player, but Christ, what an asshole.

TJastal
02-06-2013, 05:17 AM
Grey one eyed spurfan thinks every player signed will turn into one of the best :lol

Rasheed Wallace = one of the best?

Spursone
02-06-2013, 06:08 AM
Old School, Allen Bristoe - His nickname was Dr. Garbage

pgardn
02-06-2013, 08:18 AM
Some of the guys mentioned in this thread were so awful they really did not get enough time on the floor to adequately display their ineptitude. I can't, without pangs of guilt, list them.

pgardn
02-06-2013, 08:19 AM
Old School, Allen Bristoe - His nickname was Dr. Garbage

He carried out his mission admirably.

dav4463
02-06-2013, 11:58 PM
Old School, Allen Bristoe - His nickname was Dr. Garbage

Alan Bristow was a solid player.

Molotov
02-07-2013, 12:39 AM
bonner

jinsatx
02-07-2013, 01:14 AM
you guys must be young... i'm an old guy and the worst spur was either Alfredrick Hughes or Zarko Paspalj... Hughes was a wasted first round pick #14 out of Loyola of Chicago and had a jump shot that was so flat that it used to hit the bottom of the rim... as for Paspalj, he was the first euro spur with no game and boy was he ugly... not only that, but he was a chain smoker and used to try and smoke in the locker room and team bus... there were rumors that he once tried to light up while on the bench during a game...

Solid D
02-07-2013, 01:42 AM
you guys must be young... i'm an old guy and the worst spur was either Alfredrick Hughes or Zarko Paspalj... Hughes was a wasted first round pick #14 out of Loyola of Chicago and had a jump shot that was so flat that it used to hit the bottom of the rim... as for Paspalj, he was the first euro spur with no game and boy was he ugly... not only that, but he was a chain smoker and used to try and smoke in the locker room and team bus... there were rumors that he once tried to light up while on the bench during a game...

Zarko was one of Europe's best shooters and he had a huge impact on the Greek League when he played for Olympiacos. He played zero D, though, and his game didn't translate well in Larry Brown's system. Zarko was a square peg in a round hole in the NBA. I watched this guy a lot when he was with the Spurs. The Spurs actually had some training camp workouts that were open to the fans at the UTSA Convo Center. I watched from above the basket at one end of the gym near the doors. Zarko was slick and fairly fast but he had a mental block playing for Larry. He was far from the worst Spurs' player I ever saw, though.

TampaDude
02-07-2013, 11:12 AM
For the $$$, it's really hard to find someone to top Richard Jefferson. What a colossal bust. The best addition to the team was getting rid of him.

Uwe Blab was just plain worthless in the NBA, but it's not like we spent a ton of $$$ on him. He does get props for the funniest-sounding name, though. :lol

TDMVPDPOY
02-07-2013, 11:25 AM
how about NVE coming here....dribbles the ball downcourt and just shoots it...with 10-15secs left on the shot clock...

Hemotivo
02-07-2013, 02:02 PM
Did some ignorant fuck really say Mario Elie?

Hemotivo
02-07-2013, 02:09 PM
monty w, hedo, jrreid

Beaverfuzz
02-07-2013, 06:37 PM
Walter Berry was my favorite player of the "Dark Ages". A lot of great scrubs from that era. Such as Ennis Whatley...aka Penis Twatley.

Aaah yes, saw both of those players in San Antonio as well as Portland. Walter Berry was drafted by Portland way back when...didn't want to play for Portland for some odd reason, traded to the Spurs for Duckworth, fizzled out in San Antonio (and never wanted to suit up against Portland for some odd reason), and finally busting out in New Jersey. Penis Twatley was a decent scrub but nothing else.

Frank Dux
02-07-2013, 07:03 PM
Nick Van Exel was an absolute nightmare during the playoffs. Probably the most disappointing for me along with RJ.

Libri
02-07-2013, 07:05 PM
How about Charlie Ward?

hater
02-07-2013, 07:23 PM
Nick Van Exel was an absolute nightmare during the playoffs. Probably the most disappointing for me along with RJ.

cosign. Not only he played attrociously. He pissed off the refs early in the series and it was over. IMO he could have been a Cuban mole

dunkman
02-07-2013, 07:52 PM
Mercer or Butler. Mercer's contract per year was around what the Spurs offered to S-Jax for 3 seasons. And the Spurs gave up Scola to unload Butler and the remaining 2 seasons.

Budkin
02-07-2013, 08:17 PM
Uwe Blab.

Capt Bringdown
02-07-2013, 08:18 PM
Alan Bristow was a solid player.

Guest speaker at my high school basketball team's banquet. Nice guy.

Spurs Brazil
02-08-2013, 05:03 PM
#24

Gervin44Silas13
02-08-2013, 06:31 PM
Alfreck Hughes....Matt Bonner.....Dwayne Shincutz (RIP)....Peter Goodmunson...Greg Sutton....David Greenwood.... Sidney Green....Eme Udoka....LMAO!!!!!

MannyIsGod
02-08-2013, 07:22 PM
I havne't read the read, but Keith Bogans better be in the fucking lead for this. I've never hated a Spur except him. The fucking centerpiece. Fuck.

Airgentina
02-08-2013, 07:49 PM
Ian Mahinmi