International Prospect: Joe Ingles

[benfti]

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Joe Ingles
Current Team: FC Barcelona
Nationality: Australian
Height 6'8 (204cms)
Weight 216lbs (98kgs)
College: Australian Institute of Sport

[ace3g]

He is definitely someone I hope the Spurs have on their radar for the future. He has range out to 3 point line, good handles for a SF, correct me if I'm wrong but he runs some point forward for Aussie NT and for Barcelona.

I always compare his game to Toni Kukoc.

[RodNIc91]

The next Baynes! If he does end up with the spurs somehow then we'll know for sure that RC checks the think tank regularly :lol Nice size btw

[benfti]

He is definitely someone I hope the Spurs have on their radar for the future. He has range out to 3 point line, good handles for a SF, correct me if I'm wrong but he runs some point forward for Aussie NT and for Barcelona.

I always compare his game to Toni Kukoc.

yeah, he does play a lot of point forward, the other thing he has going for him is he is a good defender, he has like a 7' wingspan, so it effectivly makes him about a 6'10 presence on court.

[benfti]

Ex Spur Shane Heal had this to say about him.


If we are to single out one Aussie capable of making the jump to the NBA, Joe Ingles should be it. He’s an NBA player.
His talent and potential were always evident during his time in the NBL, but moving to Europe has seen him mature and set the tone for a transition to the best league in the world.
Watching our Olympic team in London this year, I thought Ingles was our best player. He played great defence, he rebounded, he passed the ball well. He showed a whole lot more poise and maturity in his game.
The experience of playing at such a major event and at the highest level in Europe for Barcelona means his game is at the perfect stage for an NBA move next season.
He wouldn’t just be making up the numbers, either.
I think when he gets to the NBA, people are going to be very surprised to see he can actually contribute at that level. He’s a very good defender and can be an amazing NBA player defensively.
For his size and his length, he also handles the ball well. People forget that Joe is 6’8″. With his wingspan, he’s probably like a 6’10″.
The player his size reminds me of is Toni Kukoc. If he can pick up the Kukoc jump shot – he’s not far off and he’s got the ability to do it – then he can really make it in the NBA.
But for now, he’s already an NBA level defender and a great passer, which will help him go to the next level.
While Ingles is ready to go, there are a few Australian players overseas right now who might not be too far behind him.


I can confirm we are looking at him, but so are a number of other teams.

[benfti]

Some highlights from a Euroleague game the other day


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGpKxa1mDXg

[BackHome]

I would have no problems letting Blair go and signing this kid he has size, can play defense and be able to contribute right away for us. Add to the fact that this is SJ last year with the Spurs would rather pick a player like this and one less position we have to worry about on draft night.

I remember looking at this kid earlier I can't remember what the knock on him was but he must have figured it out and gotten better.

Question can we sign him like Baynes and what is his contract situation?

[Mel_13]

NBA a legit option for Aussie forward Joe Ingles

FC Barcelona swingman Joe Ingles is averaging 6.2 ppg and 1.4 apg this season in the Spanish League, a far cry from his big stats with the Australian National during the Olympics, which was a coming out party for Ingles on the big stage and put him on the NBA radar for good.

While the minutes have been limited for him playing behind Euro basketball maintays like Juan Carlos Navarro and Pete Mickeal, Ingles says he's relished his experience with Barça. The NBA, a lifelong dream for him, could very well come next.

"My dream (growing up) was playing in the NBA," Ingles said during the Spanish Cup that takes place this week in Vitoria. "Also playing in the Olympics with Australia. That's huge for us. But obviously everybody that plays basketball wants to play in the NBA one day."

Ingles was reportedly a target for the Memphis Grizzlies in the wake of the Rudy Gay trade to bolster the team's depth. Nothing happened on that front, but that could change at the end of the season, when Ingles becomes a free agent.

"I've enjoyed my three years with Barcelona, it's a great team to play for," Ingles said. "It's the last year of my contract, I want to finish out strong with a couple of titles and see what happens next. I'll let my agent figure it out."

http://hoopshype.com/articles/sierra/nba-a-legit-option-for-aussie-forward-joe-ingles

[benefactor]

He'll sign with the Spurs this summer on a non-guaranteed deal. Makes too much sense.

[Chinook]

First it was Argentina. Then it was France. Now it's Australia. What's next, Eritrea?

[benfti]

He'll sign with the Spurs this summer on a non-guaranteed deal. Makes too much sense. I think thats exactly how it will go down, he wants to play with Stacks and Bangers, make no mistake

[CGD]

First it was Argentina. Then it was France. Now it's Australia. What's next, Eritrea?

Nah, probably Hungary.

[BackHome]

My man Adam Hanga...:)

[Boomersgold]

Huge fan of the way he played at the London Olympics. I hope Ingles makes it to the NBA.

[SpursIndonesia]

Depending on how Jax looks in the playoff, Joe Ingles is indeed very intriguing. If Jax has nothing in the tank or asking too much as a FA, might as well move swiftly to get Ingles using the Aussie connection channel.

[CGD]

If Jax is moved at the deadline, we'll need help at the SF position. Would be interesting if Ingles could be bought out and come ala Baynes, but other targets should be explored at the position regardless, e.g., Ormi Casspi.

[Bruno]

I've never been impressed by Ingles. A fine player but not NBA material.

[Penya]

I've never been impressed by Ingles. A fine player but not NBA material.

Agree. What do you think of Marcelinho Huertas?

[Bruno]

Agree. What do you think of Marcelinho Huertas?

Very good offensively especially playing pick and roll but his defense is quite horrible.

[Penya]

Very good offensively especially playing pick and roll but his defense is quite horrible.

If De Colo isn't able to get the backup PG spot, I'd give him a chance. TP with Marcelinho-CoJo... It might work.

[BackHome]

You lost me after "defense is horrible"...

[benfti]

I've never been impressed by Ingles. A fine player but not NBA material.
what gave you that impression out of interest? a messure of NBA effectiveness would be how he has gone against team USA in ineternational play, in the game that Australia got knocked out of the Olympics he scored 19 points 8 boards and 6 Assists on 6-8 shooting. Thats reasonable.

[Bruno]

what gave you that impression out of interest? a messure of NBA effectiveness would be how he has gone against team USA in ineternational play, in the game that Australia got knocked out of the Olympics he scored 19 points 8 boards and 6 Assists on 6-8 shooting. Thats reasonable.

I guess we aren't judging him on the same games sample. The majority of the time I've seen Ingles play wasn't with Australia NT but was with Barcelona.
Ingles is an end of the bench player with Barcelona who doesn't especially shine or show some special upside. He has had a good rookie season in Europe that led him to sign with a big team but, after that, he has been a disappointment. It isn't an encouraging sign for a potential success at the higher level that is the NBA.

[99 Problems]

What's up with Joe's stats today. Euro league web box scores?
Zoran Planinic continues to play well for Khimki Moscow.

[Darkwaters]

We'll be in the market for a backup SF this offseason. Looking at a guy like Ingles just makes so much sense. It's such a Spurs-type move, and I'm a fan.

[stnick2261]

I'd love to see the Spurs take a good look at Ingles if Bertans isn't ready yet (although I'd be more excited if Bertans was ready)

[ace3g]

I still think he could be a great low risk, high reward signing over the summer.

Spurs would have their own Toni Kukoc (Ingles) and Scottie Pippen (Kawhi).

[benefactor]

New Orleans Pelicans are believed to have great interest in the 203cm swingman who is 25 and won an NBL championship with South Dragons in 2009 after being the Rookie of the Year in 2007.
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/basketball/joe-ingles-led-barcelona-falls-short-in-title-defence/story-fni2fljn-1226667053448

Barca just got eliminated a couple of days ago, so more teams will likely start showing interest. Pretty safe to say that the Spurs have the inside line with a couple of his countrymen on the team. It just depends if they think he is worth a roster spot.

[ace3g]

Emiliano Carchia ‏@SportandoBasket (https://twitter.com/SportandoBasket) 30m (https://twitter.com/SportandoBasket/status/350959138769084418) Joe Ingles announced on Twitter that he won't return to FC Barcelona next season

[RodNIc91]

I like him a lot! Is he better than casspi??

[SpursSerb]

I like him a lot! Is he better than casspi??

No

[ace3g]

Here is one of his last games with FC Barcelona where he put up 25 points


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lILkZK0JBkA

rewatching Australia vs USA


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aiem1w_TvaA

A couple of things:

So far Ingles has played the entire first half without looking tired.

Other than maybe 1-2 plays hasn't been beat by LeBron or Durant off the dribble, and held his own on a LeBron post up (LeBron missed). One of the plays LeBron beat him, he came right back and took him off the dribble and got a layup.

Definitely has potential as a stretch 4 if Bonner is gone next season.

Really under-appreciated to have a 6'8+ player with those type of handles.

Same goes for the 2nd half, played the entire game

[Tuddy]

Slow feet, very average shooter, not an nba player

[Baam]

Would be a decent choice for backup SF.

[ace3g]

Emiliano Carchia @SportandoBasket
(http://twitter.com/SportandoBasket)OFFICIAL: Barcelona part ways with Jasikevicius, CJ Wallace and Loukas Mavrokefalides, extend qualifying offer to Joe Ingles

Does this mean he has a buyout now or how do Restricted* free agents work overseas?

** got this answer through twitter:


Not than any other Spanish team makes an offer to Ingles, Barça has 7 days to match the proposal. Just in Spain

[ace3g]

Slow feet, very average shooter, not an nba player

I disagree, like I mentioned above, he stayed with LeBron and Durant on the perimeter during their Olympic match while he played the entire game (40 min).

Still think he would be a great end of bench player you could develop, give him Neal/Baynes type contract. Not often you find 6'8 players that can play point forward like that.

[Marrow]

he'd be a quality pickup for the spurs, he's a smart player who can contribute in a number of ways

[Boomersgold]

He was Australia's best player throughout the Olympics, tbh.

[Anonymous Cowherd]

^ you're thinking of Patty Mills.

[Boomersgold]

^ you're thinking of Patty Mills.

Patty also played great, but he wasn't anywhere near as consistent as Ingles. He would score over 20 points one game, and then have 12 points the next. Ingles consistently scored ~16 points a game on a higher percentage than Patty.

[jyra]

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[benfti]

You just know this is going to happen now.

we have a hole at SF and Ingles is probably the best outside of the NBA at guarding guys like Durrant and James at that position

and he is international.

and we are the world team.

[BackHome]

I guess if we can't get AK we either sign Tmac or this guy?

[ace3g]

Didn't exactly want him to play back up SF this year but options are running dry for the Spurs unless they take part in some trade.

[benfti]

you would have to say it also work in his favor that he has played a ton of ball with Baynes and Mills.

[DrunkTXLabrat]

no ak. no aminu. aussie connection. i don't see why not sign ingles.

[ace3g]

There has been a lot of news recently regarding foreign players, wouldn't be surprised if we hear something on Joe Ingles soon.

[benfti]

There has been a lot of news recently regarding foreign players, wouldn't be surprised if we hear something on Joe Ingles soon. He is back in Australia right now, I would have thought a team looking at bringing him in would have slotted him into their summer league team

[ace3g]

Unless something changes and the Spurs land AK (last SF really available I like besides Gelabale) might be time to contact Joe Ingles, wanted him as the 3rd SF to bring along slowly but even as back up SF, Spurs can still do that, since Kawhi plays a lot of minutes.

[benfti]

Yep, i am convinced, if they are going to slot a Euro into the last roster spot, with the funds we have available. Its this guy.

[ace3g]

Might here something soon on where Ingles will land:

Joe Ingles @Joeingles7
(http://twitter.com/Joeingles7)Waiting for a call from @amespriority (http://twitter.com/amespriority) .. Then looked and he is busy posting pictures on Instagram! #agentlife (http://twitter.com/search?q=%23agentlife) #waiting (http://twitter.com/search?q=%23waiting) #unemployed (http://twitter.com/search?q=%23unemployed) :-)

[ace3g]

David Pick @IAmDPick
(http://twitter.com/IAmDPick)Sources confirm Spanish report on Maccabi's interest in free agent Australian forward Joe Ingles. Deal could be reached soon.

[ace3g]

David Pick @IAmDPick
(http://twitter.com/IAmDPick)After rejecting a veterans minimum 2-year deal by the Memphis Grizzlies, Australian SF Joe Ingles, is in between Maccabi & Olympiacos.

[benfti]

David Pick @IAmDPick
(http://twitter.com/IAmDPick)After rejecting a veterans minimum 2-year deal by the Memphis Grizzlies, Australian SF Joe Ingles, is in between Maccabi & Olympiacos.




Joe has shot this one down on Twitter. Know for a fact he would take a min deal in the NBA over more money in Euro right now.

[ace3g]

David Pick @IAmDPick
(http://twitter.com/IAmDPick)Aussie Joe Ingles is closest to Maccabi TLV among free agents. Told runner up is ex-Knicks guard James White: one.co.il/Article/220213… (http://t.co/vlXc4UXhkb)


David Pick @IAmDPick
(http://twitter.com/IAmDPick)Maccabi TLV, I'm told, has locked down Australian forward Joe Ingles. Contract specifics include a mutual escape clause.


David Pick @IAmDPick
(http://twitter.com/IAmDPick)Team sources have texted me: "(Joe) Ingles is done". Waiting now for Aussie's official Maccabi mixtape.

Looks like a Baynes type situation is still possible later on in the season, depending on our roster and the SF situation.

[benfti]

Signed with Maccabi with an NBA escape clause.

[benfti]

Time to exercise that out clause

[DrunkTXLabrat]

he sounds better than jeffers. wish he was taking decolos spot instead of thomas.

[exstatic]

Guys look good in their own element. DeColo looked like a player in Europe. The fact is, if you're borderline NBA athletic, you'd better be a hard nosed SOB. DeColo just melted. I don't know about this kid, but he'll get blown by and dunked on for at least a year leaning the NBA game.

[benfti]

Guys look good in their own element. DeColo looked like a player in Europe. The fact is, if you're borderline NBA athletic, you'd better be a hard nosed SOB. DeColo just melted. I don't know about this kid, but he'll get blown by and dunked on for at least a year leaning the NBA game.

Joey is very hard nosed, and a lot more athletic than DeColo

[ace3g]

Ingles has decent foot speed, enough to stay with Durant/LeBron; watched him play Team USA and he rarely got beat by those 2 off the dribble.

The main issue with Ingles is that his team is doing well in Euroleague and could go far in the playoffs. So the further his team goes, less time for him to join Spurs.

Also when first reports of Baynes buyout/signing was 1/9/13, official press release came 1/23/2013; so even when Ingles' season ends, it would take some time if Spurs did buy him out.

[TD 21]

David Pick: PaulGarciaPS @dudasun Correct. Joe Ingles wants playing time. MEM, ATL, UTA I'm hearing are more likely than SAS. Twitter @IAmDPick - See more at: http://hoopshype.com/rumors.htm#sthash.y74DB2Nf.dpuf

[99 Problems]

Aussie Joe and Maccabi defeat Real Madrid to claim Euroleague title.

[IsraelDuncan]

I'm a fan of Maccabi. Ingles started the season ok, but as it progressed he showed he's no Euroleague-elite-level player - especially on offense. Let alone a mediocre NBA one.

[Uriel]

David Pick: Paul (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=45757)GarciaPS @dudasun Correct. Joe Ingles wants playing time. MEM, ATL, UTA I'm hearing are more likely than SAS. Twitter @IAmDPick - See more at: http://hoopshype.com/rumors.htm#sthash.y74DB2Nf.dpuf
If any of those teams draft him, it would be too much of a reach, considering he's projected as a 2nd rounder. He must've received a promise from late in the 1st round, considering he's practically disappeared from the planet.

[Chinook]

If any of those teams draft him, it would be too much of a reach, considering he's projected as a 2nd rounder. He must've received a promise from late in the 1st round, considering he's practically disappeared from the planet.

I think you have Ingles mixed up with Inglis, dude. The former is an Aussie free-agent playing overseas. The latter is a French Guianese draft prospect playing in Europe. This thread is about the free agent, not the prospect.

[Uriel]

I think you have Ingles mixed up with Inglis, dude. The former is an Aussie free-agent playing overseas. The latter is a French Guianese draft prospect playing in Europe. This thread is about the free agent, not the prospect.
Whoops, epic fail. Sorry about that. :lol

[ace3g]

Still think he would be good for SF depth, maybe bringing him in would convince Patty to stay.

[Andthentherewas21]

Looked decent in the Olympics back in 2012, wouldn't mind taking a flyer out on the guy

[aussie91]

he is a bit streaky in shooting the ball but his playmaking is underrated as he proved at the Olympics. In Europe he has had a limited role and hasn't had the ball in his hands much

[99 Problems]

Being considered by Grizz.

[Tuddy]

Not a good shooter and looked slow even back in the NBL days.

[benfti]

Being considered by Grizz.again?

[99 Problems]

Looks like 76s.

[ace3g]

Marc Stein @ESPNSteinLine
(https://twitter.com/ESPNSteinLine)
ESPN latest on @MaccabiElectra (https://twitter.com/MaccabiElectra/) alumnus @Joeingles7 (https://twitter.com/Joeingles7/) shooting his way into the NBA at FIBA Basketball World Cup - espn.go.com/blog/marc-stei… (http://t.co/NTaK4uGC2Z)

[99 Problems]

Aussie news saying twitter says Clippers

[Clipper Nation]

511832824018513920

If the hype about his passing and defense is true, I'm happy with this signing....

[hsxvvd]

http://m.smh.com.au/sport/basketball/reports-say-boomers-star-joe-ingles-to-sign-with-la-clippers-20140916-10hweu.html

Done.

[benfti]

511832824018513920

If the hype about his passing and defense is true, I'm happy with this signing....

Its true, he can play point forward, which is good for you guys second unit.

[ace3g]

Sportando @sportando
(https://twitter.com/sportando)Clippers waive Joe Ingles sportando.com/en/usa/nba/138… (http://t.co/m7t8S8wCGj)


(https://tweetdeck.twitter.com/#)

[benfti]

Sportando @sportando
(https://twitter.com/sportando)Clippers waive Joe Ingles sportando.com/en/usa/nba/138… (http://t.co/m7t8S8wCGj)


(https://tweetdeck.twitter.com/#)



and claimed off of waivers by the Jazz

[ace3g]

Good to see him playing well:

Spencer Wixom ‏@JazzJargon (https://twitter.com/JazzJargon) Random Jazz fact of the day. Joe Ingles has the 17th best assist ratio in the NBA.



JazzJargon (https://twitter.com/JazzJargon) By the way.. That assist rate by Joe Ingles is 2nd in the league among all SGs and SFs.