Sheridan: Spurs frontrunners to land Al Jefferson

[jjktkk]

Bet Garnett wont be hacked in the PO. Bet Splitter will never sniff an all star game. Bet it'd give us a better shot to win now, who cares about the after Duncan, do you think Splitter who relies so much on the system and guards plays can do much once Tim and Manu are gone?

Hard to say, considering hes usually the 4th option on offense.

[Bruno]

No chance we give up a lottery pick for him. We will be rebuilding from scratch come 2015, Jefferson isn't worth us losing out on a high pick.

I'm not saying Spurs should offer that kind of pick. My point was that the notion of Spurs not being able to offer an attractive pick isn't exactly right. Spurs could offer a nice draft pick provided their trade partner is fine with waiting few years before getting it.

More generally, the double protection system on draft picks (the pick is kept if it is too good or too bad), a system relatively new in the NBA, is a nice tool for teams to do trades.

[rascal]

I'm not saying Spurs should offer that kind of pick. My point was that the notion of Spurs not being able to offer an attractive pick isn't exactly right. Spurs could offer a nice draft pick provided their trade partner is fine with waiting few years before getting it.

More generally, the double protection system on draft picks (the pick is kept if it is too good or too bad), a system relatively new in the NBA, is a nice tool for teams to do trades.

In a few years the Spurs lottery picks are going to be more valuable to them. The Spurs build around the lottery and high picks are in their post Duncan future.

[txstr1986]

We're almost to 10 pages! Keep it going!

[Bong]

this is just my opinion: i would rather have this trade (but it would be a very long shot) http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=aavr2p2

Blazers get: Al Jefferson --> the blazers are still on their rebuilding mode, IMO getting AJ would give them same play as LA (post up and mid range shot) but with an expiring contract (they can pursue other bigs at the end of the season) or if AJ would fit in their system they have cap space to give him an extension.

Jazz get: SJax, blair, cojo, bonner --> expiring contract of SJax, blair and a partially guaranteed contract of bonner will give them flexibility at the end of the season to pursue other players. blair and bonner could provide a back up for ernes canter and d. favor, bonner's 3 pt ability would add a 3pt threat and also spread the floor that would lessen the burden for their other bigs to penetrate the paint.

Spurs get: LA --> spurs are pursuing a championship, with LA skill set of post up and midrange jumper both splitter and duncan can play with him and provide additional offense if our SG 3 pts are not falling and parkers penetration is being nullified, and with his athleticism he can provide an additional defense around the rim and rebound (def/off) which is our biggest problem when we are facing the thunders and clippers, and he comes along with a 3 year contract. the only problem is we need to look for a back up SF for kawhi to provide defense on the wings, but diaws ability to switch on different position could give a quick fix and we use baynes as a back up center

[look_at_g_shred]

this is just my opinion: i would rather have this trade (but it would be a very long shot) http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=aavr2p2

Blazers get: Al Jefferson --> the blazers are still on their rebuilding mode, IMO getting AJ would give them same play as LA (post up and mid range shot) but with an expiring contract (they can pursue other bigs at the end of the season) or if AJ would fit in their system they have cap space to give him an extension.

Jazz get: SJax, blair, cojo, bonner --> expiring contract of SJax, blair and a partially guaranteed contract of bonner will give them flexibility at the end of the season to pursue other players. blair and bonner could provide a back up for ernes canter and d. favor, bonner's 3 pt ability would add a 3pt threat and also spread the floor that would lessen the burden for their other bigs to penetrate the paint.

Spurs get: LA --> spurs are pursuing a championship, with LA skill set of post up and midrange jumper both splitter and duncan can play with him and provide additional offense if our SG 3 pts are not falling and parkers penetration is being nullified, and with his athleticism he can provide an additional defense around the rim and rebound (def/off) which is our biggest problem when we are facing the thunders and clippers, and he comes along with a 3 year contract. the only problem is we need to look for a back up SF for kawhi to provide defense on the wings, but diaws ability to switch on different position could give a quick fix and we use baynes as a back up center

I think I would have a heart attack and an orgasm at the same time if this trade went down. Ive always loved L.A

[Bong]

I think I would have a heart attack and an orgasm at the same time if this trade went down. Ive always loved L.A

then you should ready morphine tab, aspirin tab, nitroglycerine tab and oxygen at your side then :toast, at least when it happens your already prepared for your impending heart attack hehehhe:downspin:

[EricB]

Jefferson plays below the rim and is a bad defender. How do you see that as "a better job protecting the rim"? Splitter is a much better defender than Jefferson.


He thinks Samuel Dalembert would help.



dont shoot the messenger..

[Richie]

this is just my opinion: i would rather have this trade (but it would be a very long shot) http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=aavr2p2

Blazers get: Al Jefferson --> the blazers are still on their rebuilding mode, IMO getting AJ would give them same play as LA (post up and mid range shot) but with an expiring contract (they can pursue other bigs at the end of the season) or if AJ would fit in their system they have cap space to give him an extension.

Jazz get: SJax, blair, cojo, bonner --> expiring contract of SJax, blair and a partially guaranteed contract of bonner will give them flexibility at the end of the season to pursue other players. blair and bonner could provide a back up for ernes canter and d. favor, bonner's 3 pt ability would add a 3pt threat and also spread the floor that would lessen the burden for their other bigs to penetrate the paint.

Spurs get: LA --> spurs are pursuing a championship, with LA skill set of post up and midrange jumper both splitter and duncan can play with him and provide additional offense if our SG 3 pts are not falling and parkers penetration is being nullified, and with his athleticism he can provide an additional defense around the rim and rebound (def/off) which is our biggest problem when we are facing the thunders and clippers, and he comes along with a 3 year contract. the only problem is we need to look for a back up SF for kawhi to provide defense on the wings, but diaws ability to switch on different position could give a quick fix and we use baynes as a back up center

Blazers could get WAY more for Aldridge than Jefferson, and the Jazz would want more than our trash.

In fact, if the Blazers are willing to do this trade, why wouldn't the Jazz just trade Al Jeff straight up for LA?

[TJastal]

Blazers could get WAY more for Aldridge than Jefferson, and the Jazz would want more than our trash.

In fact, if the Blazers are willing to do this trade, why wouldn't the Jazz just trade Al Jeff straight up for LA?

Because of course every team wants to do whatever possible to help out the spurs, like.. duh.

[ManuTastic]

This whole idea hinges on Al Jefferson being a good defender. He's not. Full stop.
/EndThread

[Budkin]

This whole idea hinges on Al Jefferson being a good defender. He's not. Full stop.
/EndThread

He can learn defense. He WILL learn defense under Pop.

[PingPong]

He can learn defense. He WILL learn defense under Pop.

He can improve and be a great shot blocker, but no way Pop will make his slow legs go faster.

[jimbo]

In a few years the Spurs lottery picks are going to be more valuable to them. The Spurs build around the lottery and high picks are in their post Duncan future.

Not unless Parker is dealt out too. Without Manu/Tim this is still a fringe playoff team, not a lottery team. Tony's too good for that. I foresee a lot of 1st round exits or no mans land picks unless the FO blows the team up.

[Richie]

For everyone saying how bad Jefferson is on defence, if we keep Splitter (i.e. give up Green for him) and he takes Diaws + Bonner/Blair minutes, are we really going to be much worse defensively?

Talking playoffs, if Kawhi and Manu are playing big minutes we won't be missing Jax or Green THAT much. We would need a swingman back from the Jazz or a third team though.

[BatManu20]

This whole idea hinges on Al Jefferson being a good defender. He's not. Full stop.
/EndThread

You're right, he's not a great defender, but he's not nearly as bad as people on this board are making him sound. He's still a decent post defender and is averaging 1.1 blocks this season. That's more than Garnett. He's long and athletic and alters a lot of shots when he wants to. It's more about effort with Jefferson, something you can change.

His only real weakness is PnR defense, but I think under Pop he would really improve in this department. I think Pop would MAKE him put in a lot of effort on the defensive side, and that combined with playing alongside Duncan would really help him. An offensively, he's arguably the best big man in the game on that side of the ball. His back to the basket game is 2nd to no other Centers imo, and he can shoot the J consistently. I, for one, hope we really pull this off. I don't think we're good enough to win a championship with our roster as is right now and this is the year we have to go all in.

[Beaverfuzz]

Fuck Al Jefferson, that is all.

[BatManu20]

Random post but I always knew I liked Neil Everett. Giving the Spurs some props for once during last night's highlights.

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[Spurs_Be_Beastin']

al jefferson sucks and would not help the spurs at all.
that is all.

[FYM]

this is just my opinion: i would rather have this trade (but it would be a very long shot) http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=aavr2p2

Blazers get: Al Jefferson --> the blazers are still on their rebuilding mode, IMO getting AJ would give them same play as LA (post up and mid range shot) but with an expiring contract (they can pursue other bigs at the end of the season) or if AJ would fit in their system they have cap space to give him an extension.

Jazz get: SJax, blair, cojo, bonner --> expiring contract of SJax, blair and a partially guaranteed contract of bonner will give them flexibility at the end of the season to pursue other players. blair and bonner could provide a back up for ernes canter and d. favor, bonner's 3 pt ability would add a 3pt threat and also spread the floor that would lessen the burden for their other bigs to penetrate the paint.

Spurs get: LA --> spurs are pursuing a championship, with LA skill set of post up and midrange jumper both splitter and duncan can play with him and provide additional offense if our SG 3 pts are not falling and parkers penetration is being nullified, and with his athleticism he can provide an additional defense around the rim and rebound (def/off) which is our biggest problem when we are facing the thunders and clippers, and he comes along with a 3 year contract. the only problem is we need to look for a back up SF for kawhi to provide defense on the wings, but diaws ability to switch on different position could give a quick fix and we use baynes as a back up center

So the jazz give the spurs al for what ? Ah yes dead weight jax, Dejuan no knee Blair, cojo (who the fuck he is?) and Matt the choker bonner. :lmao spurs fans crack me up tbh. You guys are priceless, eh jazz give me your best player for a pile trash...yeah thanks in advance

[Big P]

this is just my opinion: i would rather have this trade (but it would be a very long shot) http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=aavr2p2

Blazers get: Al Jefferson --> the blazers are still on their rebuilding mode, IMO getting AJ would give them same play as LA (post up and mid range shot) but with an expiring contract (they can pursue other bigs at the end of the season) or if AJ would fit in their system they have cap space to give him an extension.

Jazz get: SJax, blair, cojo, bonner --> expiring contract of SJax, blair and a partially guaranteed contract of bonner will give them flexibility at the end of the season to pursue other players. blair and bonner could provide a back up for ernes canter and d. favor, bonner's 3 pt ability would add a 3pt threat and also spread the floor that would lessen the burden for their other bigs to penetrate the paint.

Spurs get: LA --> spurs are pursuing a championship, with LA skill set of post up and midrange jumper both splitter and duncan can play with him and provide additional offense if our SG 3 pts are not falling and parkers penetration is being nullified, and with his athleticism he can provide an additional defense around the rim and rebound (def/off) which is our biggest problem when we are facing the thunders and clippers, and he comes along with a 3 year contract. the only problem is we need to look for a back up SF for kawhi to provide defense on the wings, but diaws ability to switch on different position could give a quick fix and we use baynes as a back up center

Your screen name is quite fitting....maybe you were hitting it when you thought this one up?

[McGusto55]

Not jax

[Amuseddaysleeper]

Let's get this to 20 pages.

[scanry]

Tim Duncan will not let S Jax get away again. He was upset the first time around and I'm pretty sure Pop & Buford know that. I say give him $9 over 2 years in the offseason.

[lmbebo]

How about this trade?

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=c5fd5v4

:P:downspin:

[BackHome]

Tim Duncan will not let S Jax get away again. He was upset the first time around and I'm pretty sure Pop & Buford know that. I say give him $9 over 2 years in the offseason.

Are you getting into SJ secrete stash...No way do the Spurs keep him after this season I love his heart and his toughness but he has nothing left in his gas tank. People are going to get upset in playoff when he doesn't do anything but they shouldn't he just doesn't have the hops anymore. The only good thing is he will retire after this season a Spurs which is cool.

[DesignatedT]

The Spurs have the perfect system for Jack. Even for an old Jack.

All he has to do is hit his open 3s and defend. You gunna tell me Jack is goin to start missin 3s in the playoffs? Fuck no. Dude will be hitting big shots until hes in the ground, just like Horry.

[024]

people who use horry to defend jax forget how terrible he was in the 08 playoffs. horry already looked done in the regular season and that was confirmed in the playoffs when he proceeded to brick everything.

[BatManu20]

The Spurs have the perfect system for Jack. Even for an old Jack.

All he has to do is hit his open 3s and defend. You gunna tell me Jack is goin to start missin 3s in the playoffs? Fuck no. Dude will be hitting big shots until hes in the ground, just like Horry.

I love JAX but all he's done this year is miss open 3's.. if that carries over into the playoffs he'll be completely useless.

[rascal]

Not unless Parker is dealt out too. Without Manu/Tim this is still a fringe playoff team, not a lottery team. Tony's too good for that. I foresee a lot of 1st round exits or no mans land picks unless the FO blows the team up.

It is a lottery team without Duncan. You will see some lean years after Duncan retires.

[rascal]

I love JAX but all he's done this year is miss open 3's.. if that carries over into the playoffs he'll be completely useless.

Jackson is over the hill. People are still living in the past with this guy. Jackson is going to lose a couple of playoff games for the spurs this year by missing important clutch shots.

[PÒÓCH]

No need for this trade, come next year Jefferson will be a free agent and we can sign him then.

[rascal]

Jefferson plays below the rim and is a bad defender. How do you see that as "a better job protecting the rim"? Splitter is a much better defender than Jefferson.

He is better than Splitter both offensively and defensively. Splitter can't jump 6 inches off the ground.

[rascal]

He is better than Splitter both offensively and defensively. Splitter can't jump 6 inches off the ground.

Relying on Splitter lol
Relying on Jackson lol
Relying on Manu lol

These three are the reason why the Spurs won't win a title. Guys the team is counting on who won't do enough to help Leonard, Duncan and Parker. The rest of the team is a bunch of scrubs, backup quality players, non factors.

[Prime Time]

Relying on Splitter lol
Relying on Jackson lol
Relying on Manu lol

These three are the reason why the Spurs won't win a title. Guys the team is counting on who won't do enough to help Leonard, Duncan and Parker. The rest of the team is a bunch of scrubs, backup quality players, non factors.

I somewhat agree with this, And it's why we NEED to acquire someone like Jefferson if we want to make the finals. Right now Tiago seems like the "golden child", but the matter of the fact is he CAN'T create shots for himself. He needs someone to set him up, AJ on the other end doesn't. In the playoffs once teams want to start doubling Tony, the trio of Duncan/Jefferson/Leonard should be able to make the defense think twice.

[PingPong]

If the spurs won't win a title, isn't by the lack of someone like al jeff. If you were talking about Pierce I'd take you seriously. But Al Jefferson? Watch Pierce in the third quarter against the Lakers today. THAT'S a championship player, not some Jazz fan-hated average nig.

[BackHome]

Al Jefferson is going to want a 100 million $$$$$ for his new contract that is why his team is trying to trade him.

[G-Dawgg]

We should get Al Jefferson, We are sorely in need of a big, strong interior player that can score reliably in the post and battle for rebounds. Duncan is getting old, Splitter is still too soft, and Blair is too short. I'd be happy to take Al Jefferson.

[Prime Time]

If the spurs won't win a title, isn't by the lack of someone like al jeff. If you were talking about Pierce I'd take you seriously. But Al Jefferson? Watch Pierce in the third quarter against the Lakers today. THAT'S a championship player, not some Jazz fan-hated average nig.

I'd easily take Pierce instead of Jefferson. But unlike Utah, Boston would never trade their stud (Who's been with them since Day One) for expirings/Tiago Splitter. I said if the Spurs want a chance to crack the finals, They'll need someone like Al Jefferson. Someone who can create and make their shots on a regular basis. Obviously I'd take a ton of guys over Jefferson if Spurs had the chance, but they don't.

[Hoops Czar]

An article from the 6th of February has the spurs offering S-jax, Blair and CoJo for Al Jefferson. That would be an absolute heist.

[DrSteffo]

Al Jefferson is one of the worst defenders in the nba and that's why many/most Jazz fans would just love to trade him. Many Jazz fans talk about him like we talk about Bonner.

[BatManu20]

An article from the 6th of February has the spurs offering S-jax, Blair and CoJo for Al Jefferson. That would be an absolute heist.

Would never happen. Everything is just speculation at this point no matter what any report says. And the Jazz would never make that trade in a million years.


Al Jefferson is one of the worst defenders in the nba and that's why many/most Jazz fans would just love to trade him. Many Jazz fans talk about him like we talk about Bonner.

If he's so bad then we should be able to get him for next to nothing right? No.. he's averaging 17 and 10 for a reason. Yes, he has his weaknesses, like any other player, but if you have the opportunity to get a player without giving up a major piece of your team, you usually go after him. It'd be dumb not to tbh.

[Texas_Ranger]

if we can get him without giving up Tiago then OK. I know Jefferson's defense is pretty pathetic, but at least he's a pretty good offensive player and a good rebounder. Also with Tim on the floor I bet he wouldn't suck so much on defense. In the playoffs I rather have him out there than our role players which are choke material come playoff time.

[spurraider21]

An article from the 6th of February has the spurs offering S-jax, Blair and CoJo for Al Jefferson. That would be an absolute heist.
If we aren't giving up Tiago its worth looking into... of course our small forward position is pretty damn thin

[spurraider21]

if we can get him without giving up Tiago then OK. I know Jefferson's defense is pretty pathetic, but at least he's a pretty good offensive player and a good rebounder. Also with Tim on the floor I bet he wouldn't suck so much on defense. In the playoffs I rather have him out there than our role players which are choke material come playoff time.
In this scenario do we start Al or Tiago though... and which do we resign during the offseason? Pressing questions tbh

[Texas_Ranger]

In this scenario do we start Al or Tiago though... and which do we resign during the offseason? Pressing questions tbh

We probably start Al. Tiago is a great of the bench player, specially with Manu on the floor... On the end of the year we all know Al will want a huge deal that we most likely won't be able to get him, but we will be able to sign Tiago. If we want to win a championship this year then trading Jax, Blair, Neal, Mills, De Colo or Joseph is not a big deal. Jax's contract is also finished after this year and he'll also probably get a better offer from another team. On the end of the day it's a trade with players that will probably not be on this teams anymore.

[travis2]

His only real weakness is PnR defense, but I think under Pop he would really improve in this department. I think Pop would MAKE him put in a lot of effort on the defensive side, and that combined with playing alongside Duncan would really help him.

With an off-season and training camp, I agree with you. In the middle of the season, no. Practice time is severely limited during the season.

[DrSteffo]

If he's so bad then we should be able to get him for next to nothing right? No.. he's averaging 17 and 10 for a reason.

Hmm you actually proved my point. He is a very bad defensive player. Players who average 17 and 10 will get paid regardless. The question is if the Spurs should pay big money to a player like this or not. Of course if we don't have to give up anything then it's a good idea but also unrealistic.

[spurraider21]

We probably start Al. Tiago is a great of the bench player, specially with Manu on the floor... On the end of the year we all know Al will want a huge deal that we most likely won't be able to get him, but we will be able to sign Tiago. If we want to win a championship this year then trading Jax, Blair, Neal, Mills, De Colo or Joseph is not a big deal. Jax's contract is also finished after this year and he'll also probably get a better offer from another team. On the end of the day it's a trade with players that will probably not be on this teams anymore.

yeah, tiago does have great rapport with manu. im just concerned defense will take a bit hit. with tim being the elite help defender, tiago's timely rotation and sturdiness down low have been key. Tiago is also the best big pick and roll defender we have. but the positives Al will bring would be worth it i guess. probably a better rebounder than tiago too. im for the trade if tiago stays.

in this scenario boris is going to see a lot of time at small forward. he's going to have to start hitting his open 3's

[Richie]

Everyone is complaining that Al Jeff is so bad, but if he's replacing Diaw how good does he really have to be on D? It's not like Diaw is all defensive player. If he takes 8 of Bonners minutes, 8 of Blairs and 8 of Diaws, he's playing 24 min/game and we've hardly lost out on any defence at all.

Al Jefferson of the bench would destroy backup big men. As long as we keep Splitter I'm happy with this move.

Next season he can take 5-6 of Timmys regular season minutes, dropping Timmy to a relaxing 25min/game throughout the regular season to keep him fresh.

Furthermore, if we solely listened to opposition fans criticism, we'd never have signed Diaw after the Bobcats waived him

[callo1]

I think this article says it best:

http://www.prosportsdaily.com/Headlines/ExternalArticle?articleId=228683

Trade makes no sense...Milsap on the other hand would. Ibaka would not get those 15 ft baseline shots, an tbh the Spurs could have lived with all else except Ibaka...they simply were not prepared for that.

Two bad contracts for another....Jax, filler (Bonner) for Milsap.

[Richie]

I think this article says it best:

http://www.prosportsdaily.com/Headlines/ExternalArticle?articleId=228683

Trade makes no sense...Milsap on the other hand would. Ibaka would not get those 15 ft baseline shots, an tbh the Spurs could have lived with all else except Ibaka...they simply were not prepared for that.

Two bad contracts for another....Jax, filler (Bonner) for Milsap.

Jazz offered Millsap a big contract and he turned it down to test free agency. The Jazz want to keep him so won't trade him for trash.

Jefferson they won't be re signing to the Jazz so they will want to get at least something for him.

[Johnny RIngo]

I'm not so sure about this trade. If we can get him without giving up Splitter I wouldn't mind but then the question becomes who should start. Duncan/Jefferson doesn't seem like it'd be a very good defensive tandem since they're both pretty slow and would get murdered on the PnR. In that case, is Jefferson willing to come off the bench? Doubt it. After the Drew Gooden and Richard Jefferson trades, I'm kinda weary of players putting up good numbers on bad teams.

[Texas_Ranger]

in this scenario boris is going to see a lot of time at small forward. he's going to have to start hitting his open 3's

Getting DeMarre Carroll with Al would be perfect.

[Vladimir Lenin]

I approve

[Fireball]

After the Drew Gooden and Richard Jefferson trades, I'm kinda weary of players putting up good numbers on bad teams. I guess I would also pass on Al Jefferson, but he is not on a bad team. Utah is 6th in the stronger Western Conference ... that makes them at least above average.

[callo1]

Jazz offered Millsap a big contract and he turned it down to test free agency. The Jazz want to keep him so won't trade him for trash.

Jefferson they won't be re signing to the Jazz so they will want to get at least something for him.

The Jazz need a wing, and floor spacers. As you mentioned, Milsap isn't going to resign there anyway, so they get another expiring contract in Jack, a WHITE floor spacer in Bonner, and possibly toss Neal in.

I'm not saying Utah will do this, but it is far from an absurd trade if you think about it. Hey, if Milsap leaves the Spurs at the end of the year, fine. We use him to help get a ring this year.

Utah fans adore white players...I can't emphasize this enough.

[will_spurs]

What I like the most about this article is that Sheridan claims he has connections that allow him to write articles about trades that aren't rumors... then goes on to describe a shitty trade idea... and concludes that he can't say the teams are actually discussing this trade.

All those lame beat writers are so butthurt that Woj is the only guy with connections in the whole league. Woj has more connections with any team that the local beat writer. Clowns.

[Chinook]

I'm not so sure about this trade. If we can get him without giving up Splitter I wouldn't mind but then the question becomes who should start. Duncan/Jefferson doesn't seem like it'd be a very good defensive tandem since they're both pretty slow and would get murdered on the PnR. In that case, is Jefferson willing to come off the bench? Doubt it. After the Drew Gooden and Richard Jefferson trades, I'm kinda weary of players putting up good numbers on bad teams.

Gooden was a buyout pickup, like Diaw was last season. It was absolutely the right move to make at the time. Hell, I'd do it again this season if Gooden got waived and my team had an open space. Even though he isn't as good as his numbers suggest, he's well worth a pro-rated share of the league minimum.

That being said, I totally agree that putting up good numbers on a bad team doesn't mean much. Al Jefferson doesn't fit the Spurs' system, and with the way the league is trending now, it doesn't make sense to try to change their system to accommodate Jefferson's style.

[SpursIndonesia]

The Jazz need a wing, and floor spacers. As you mentioned, Milsap isn't going to resign there anyway, so they get another expiring contract in Jack, a WHITE floor spacer in Bonner, and possibly toss Neal in.

I'm not saying Utah will do this, but it is far from an absurd trade if you think about it. Hey, if Milsap leaves the Spurs at the end of the year, fine. We use him to help get a ring this year.

Utah fans adore white players...I can't emphasize this enough.

Yeah, i concur. Rather than Big Al, if we want a half season rental for a strong post season push from the Jazz, we should trade for Paul Millsap. Your proposed idea isn't bad, we lose Jax as our backup SF, but then we can actually put Boris to replace him at that spot, and dedicate Millsap as our 3rd big off the bench. Boris has been more effective as a SF this season (shoots more, not rebounding won't be a problem) and defensively holds his own.

Our post season rotation:

PG: TP (Manu as the designated back up PG @10 min/game)
Swingmen: DG, Manu, Kawhi, Boris
Bigmen: TD, Tiago, Millsap

Spot minutes: Neal, Bonner, Baynes

[Richie]

The Jazz need a wing, and floor spacers. As you mentioned, Milsap isn't going to resign there anyway, so they get another expiring contract in Jack, a WHITE floor spacer in Bonner, and possibly toss Neal in.

I'm not saying Utah will do this, but it is far from an absurd trade if you think about it. Hey, if Milsap leaves the Spurs at the end of the year, fine. We use him to help get a ring this year.

Utah fans adore white players...I can't emphasize this enough.

I'm not saying Millsap won't re sign there at all, I think the Jazz have as good a chance as any to get him in the summer. Jefferson is the player who is almost guaranteed to leave in the summer, so we can probably get him fairly cheap. The Jazz will almost certainly roll the dice on Millsap and keep him this year, hoping to re sign him.

[Bruno]

What I like the most about this article is that Sheridan claims he has connections that allow him to write articles about trades that aren't rumors... then goes on to describe a shitty trade idea... and concludes that he can't say the teams are actually discussing this trade.


Well, Sheridan is saying that he has numerous sources putting Spurs as front runner for Al Jeff. After that, he is trying to build a trade that is good for both teams while admitting he maybe isn't this trade that isn't discussed. The part worth discussing isn't the trade build by Sheridan, it's what he claims his sources are saying.

Now, you can always think that either Sheridan is lying or that he has crappy sources, but it's possible that Spurs are interested in Al Jefferson and that they are the favorites to get him.

[Silent]

get him !

[stxspurs]

No milsap..I rather keep Blair

[EricB]

No milsap..I rather keep Blair

Cant be serious.

cant be...

[Man In Black]

I don't like it. It's a pace issue. Jefferson is the very definition of a lumbering player. I don't hate him as much as I hated SUCKMYWOKANDI back in the day. But I'd rather keep the corporate knowledge going and growing. Given a choice between what Utah has, I like Milsap more but to me, the choice should be...do we need to trade at all? Best record in the L with now 3 players at 6-11 plus a 6-10 marksman and a 6-7 blob with long arms. Plus, if I needed 6-9.5 and up, why not just go talk to Antonio McDyess again since he already knows the system and he is well rested.

[callo1]

There is another route the Spurs could go to shore up the rotation a bit. I actually wouldn't mind this scenario: get Jermaine O'Neal from the Suns.(1.35 mill this year, ufa end of season) I hear he is on the outs with Suns management atm. Get a veteran backup pg on the cheap (Fisher) (ouch, that hurts), and assign Nando to the D-league... I mean hell, Pop isn't going to trust him in the playoffs anyway, so why not.

I realize this isn't the big move fans would salivate over, but adding veteran depth at two positions of need with little investment and no long term commitment isn't a bad deal.

[Spur|n|Austin]

Cant be serious.

cant be...

:lol

[BatManu20]

There is another route the Spurs could go to shore up the rotation a bit. I actually wouldn't mind this scenario: get Jermaine O'Neal from the Suns.(1.35 mill this year, ufa end of season) I hear he is on the outs with Suns management atm. Get a veteran backup pg on the cheap (Fisher) (ouch, that hurts), and assign Nando to the D-league... I mean hell, Pop isn't going to trust him in the playoffs anyway, so why not.

I realize this isn't the big move fans would salivate over, but adding veteran depth at two positions of need with little investment and no long term commitment isn't a bad deal.

We would be so old.. OKC would be licking their chops. And I, for one, hope to never see Fisher in a Spurs uniform.

[Dr. John R. Brinkley]

Wow, I didn't know the Spurs all of a sudden started floating trade ideas out to the major news agencies two weeks before the trade deadline. Sounds realistic to me!

[TDMVPDPOY]

would waste cap on this clown

spurs should be looking at monroe with that cap they are building up

[Maddog]

Wow, I didn't know the Spurs all of a sudden started floating trade ideas out to the major news agencies two weeks before the trade deadline. Sounds realistic to me!

I would agree
I suspect there is very little substance behind this rumor.

[swaggerjackson]

But dude he said "Secretariat".

[playblair]

No milsap..I rather keep Blair

word .............. blair will be spurs x factor in the playoffs ...........

[siraulo23]

diaw + sjax for jefferson

one sided trade lets go :lol

[stxspurs]

Cant be serious.

cant be...

im talking about inserting milsap instead of Jefferson for splitter,mills and jackson...imo no thanks

[TDMVPDPOY]

if big al, was that damn good....the jizz wouldnt have gotten swept by the sperms

[waisman]

Jefferson is Duncan backup post player ?

[BatManu20]

We need to make a move of some sort, whatever it may be. This team, as constructed, in not winning a championship. Come playoffs, once rotations tighten up and defenses start locking down on guys, we won't have the same success we've had in the regular season. See last years WCF for reference.

[callo1]

No way the Spurs should give up Tiago. I agree

[dunkman]

He's a great addition, as long as the Spurs keep the big three, Kawhi, Splitter and Diaw after the trade. Also the Spurs would need to be 100% sure Al Jeff is going to re-sign at some reasonable rate.

[exstatic]

Jefferson is Duncan backup post player ?

Bingo. You can't play them together a ton, maybe 8-10 minutes a game, because of their collective immobility in the pick and roll.

[Richie]

He's a great addition, as long as the Spurs keep the big three, Kawhi, Splitter and Diaw after the trade. Also the Spurs would need to be 100% sure Al Jeff is going to re-sign at some reasonable rate.

Diaw is no doubt expendable in this kind of trade. Jax + Diaw for Jefferson I'd do in a heartbeat, but the Jazz would need a better piece. Assuming they don't rate any of our backup points very highly, we'll need to give up Green and probably our 1st

[dunkman]

Diaw is no doubt expendable in this kind of trade. Jax + Diaw for Jefferson I'd do in a heartbeat, but the Jazz would need a better piece. Assuming they don't rate any of our backup points very highly, we'll need to give up Green and probably our 1st

If the Spurs give both Jack and Diaw, the only small ball option would be Kawhi at 4, also he would be the only true SF left.

[Richie]

If the Spurs give both Jack and Diaw, the only small ball option would be Kawhi at 4, also he would be the only true SF left.

If we trade for Jefferson we will likely have to get a backup SF back or find a free agent to back up Kawhi, and it will mark a move away from small ball. Make the Heat/Thunder go big against us rather than us going small against them.

[AFBlue]

Acquiring Jefferson would be an alarming sign that the Spurs don't have confidence Duncan will continue to hold up physically.

There's no doubt that he's a more versatile offensive player than Splitter, but there's also no doubt he's a worse fit alongside Duncan.

[dbestpro]

Acquiring Jefferson would be an alarming sign that the Spurs don't have confidence Duncan will continue to hold up physically.

There's no doubt that he's a more versatile offensive player than Splitter, but there's also no doubt he's a worse fit alongside Duncan.

Or maybe it's a sign that we need a major upgrade from the turd towers.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Jefferson is a ball-stopper who wouldn't work in our offence. We need to make a trade, but I don't think this is it.

[BatManu20]

There are a ton of other players that the Spurs can trade for before the deadline that would help this ball club. How about a guy like Shawn Marion who the Mavs are apparently shopping? We need another SF. Or a backup PG who can shoot like Luke Ridnour who the Wolves are trying to trade? Or Luc Richard Mbah Amoute from Milwaukee? He's a great defender. Even Gortat, who's in the last year of his contract with Phoenix, would be a good pickup. There are a lot of other options, but the Spurs have to make it happen.

[td4mvp2k]

Maybe the Spurs will make a trade with Wolves but not for Jefferson, just a name thrown out there as smoke (CIA Pop).

That would be good for Williams.

[lmbebo]

Maybe the spurs look at Al Jeff as a piece/opportunity for the post TD era when its only TP left?

[eDizzle20]

Big Al going to work on Joakim Noah tonight on the offensive end with 11 points in the first quarter. I know many don't like the idea of trading for him because of his lack of D, but a guy like him in the post seems like a great counter to OKC's fast pace and solid half court D. Sefalosha's D on Parker last year in the Conference Finals was impeccable on the pick n roll.

[bklynspursfan]

Jefferson is balling tonight

[BatManu20]

Jefferson is balling tonight

He's ballin outrageous.

[Prime Time]

:wow 32pts on 15-20 shooting...

[crc21209]

Al Jefferson is going OFF right now, but I still don't think he would fit as well with the Spurs the way Tiago does...

[BatManu20]

His stat line tonight - 32 points, 13 boards, 2 stls, 2 blks.

Make it happen R.C.!

[exstatic]

Jefferson is a ball-stopper who wouldn't work in our offence. We need to make a trade, but I don't think this is it.

Not so much any more. He was earlier in his career, but you HAVE to pass the ball in Utah's offense.

[Texas_Ranger]

if it really comes down to having to give up Tiago, I'd do it. Yes Tiago is a good defensive player, but on offense he's just a pick n' roll guy (OK, sometimes he uses his hook shot) while Al has a great offensive arsenal. Also he's a much better rebounder. I know some may not think so, but Tiago is pushed way to easily under the rim. With that said I like Splitter's game very much, but if it's him or Al, I pick Al.

[eDizzle20]

Jefferson's ability to draw the double team is to me what makes it so tempting to trade for him. If Utah had some perimeter shooters they would have easily won that game last night against Chicago. He dominated anyone Chicago put on him, even Noah who I regard as a solid defender. Again, a move like this is strictly for postseason purposes that can help against OKC (only real challenge I see). A lot of Tim's points in the conference finals last year came from the pick n pop.

[jermaine]

If any of you watched the spurs gm an dont realize we need someone that can handle a scoring load, you've gotta be kidding me.

[rascal]

if it really comes down to having to give up Tiago, I'd do it. Yes Tiago is a good defensive player, but on offense he's just a pick n' roll guy (OK, sometimes he uses his hook shot) while Al has a great offensive arsenal. Also he's a much better rebounder. I know some may not think so, but Tiago is pushed way to easily under the rim. With that said I like Splitter's game very much, but if it's him or Al, I pick Al.

This. Al is a much better overall player. As the 3rd option he would be a great fit on the Spurs, a difference maker, Splitter is not. It would open up much of the half court perimeter 3 point offense which the Spurs rely so much on with another post- mid range threat. Any defensive liabilities and that is over stated in here because Splitter is not any type of defensive force will be negated with his superior offense.

[Cane]

Yea Spurs need another weapon especially in the playoffs where the older Big 3 can't handle the scoring load like they used to, and the roleplayers are too limited/inconsistent. When Parker's on the bench or is being hounded by Sefolosha the Spurs could use Jefferson to manufacture a shot. Big Al could get accustomed with the Spurs in the home friendly half of the season.

[Bruno]

While I have, like a lot of others, doubts on how Al Jefferson will fit, could fit with Spurs, it's hard to deny the upside of a trade like that.

If Spurs can get him for Jackson, 2 first round picks and a combination of Bonner, Blair, De Colo, Mills, Joseph, Neal, it will give Spurs the best frontcourt in the NBA with Duncan/Jefferson/Splitter/Diaw. Add to that, some good perimeter players like Parker, Ginobili, Leonard and Green, and it's a scary team on the paper.

[therealtruth]

Yea Spurs need another weapon especially in the playoffs where the older Big 3 can't handle the scoring load like they used to, and the roleplayers are too limited/inconsistent. When Parker's on the bench or is being hounded by Sefolosha the Spurs could use Jefferson to manufacture a shot. Big Al could get accustomed with the Spurs in the home friendly half of the season.

We've got plenty of weapons in Kawhi, Tiago. Pop just needs to use them to initiate the offense at times. No need to sacrifice our defense to get one.

[superbigtime]

Spurs don't HAVE to get Jefferson. But I would give up Diaw and Jack to get him. Back up PG issues are pressing too.

[PingPong]

Most of posters are relying at the offense numbers from a guy who plays in a shitty team. Those Jefferson's numbers will shrink a lot in a Spurs roster, with more offensive options than the U Jazz.

[JonNOKC]

Hard to see a trade for Al working if FO still committed to staying under luxury tax and both teams at 15 man rosters. Maybe something like:
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=adj2r7t

With Utah getting a 1st pick and rights to Lorbek and NO getting 1st rounder

You could do something similar with Sacramento and Jason Thompson and maybe a few other examples. If you could find the right third team Utah can get a nice piece and Spurs keep Tiago. This also helps as don't see Utah being able to take on 4 players for 1, and may allow Spurs to fill roster spots while staying just below luxury tax

Then the final questions are 1. Does this get us better shot of beating okc and Miami. 2. Is it worth it for 1/2 yr rental of Big Al

[BatManu20]

Hard to see a trade for Al working if FO still committed to staying under luxury tax and both teams at 15 man rosters. Maybe something like:
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=adj2r7t

With Utah getting a 1st pick and rights to Lorbek and NO getting 1st rounder

Lol the Jazz are trying to trade Jefferson or Millsap because they're already stacked with big men.. why would they trade for another one in Robin Lopez? And the Hornets would get 2 guys who have 3 months left on their contract wouldn't even be there next season..

[benefactor]

if it really comes down to having to give up Tiago, I'd do it. Yes Tiago is a good defensive player, but on offense he's just a pick n' roll guy (OK, sometimes he uses his hook shot) while Al has a great offensive arsenal. Also he's a much better rebounder. I know some may not think so, but Tiago is pushed way to easily under the rim. With that said I like Splitter's game very much, but if it's him or Al, I pick Al.

This. Al is a much better overall player. As the 3rd option he would be a great fit on the Spurs, a difference maker, Splitter is not. It would open up much of the half court perimeter 3 point offense which the Spurs rely so much on with another post- mid range threat. Any defensive liabilities and that is over stated in here because Splitter is not any type of defensive force will be negated with his superior offense.
It has already been pointed out that there is no reason for Utah to take another quality big back. One of the reasons they are dumping Al is to free up room in the rotation. Taking back a rotation level big makes no sense if you are getting rid of one for this reason.

The will want first round picks and expirings.

[JonNOKC]

Lol the Jazz are trying to trade Jefferson or Millsap because they're already stacked with big men.. why would they trade for another one in Robin Lopez? And the Hornets would get 2 guys who have 3 months left on their contract wouldn't even be there next season..

I don't see much truth in Sheridan's report so I agree, but base on his report the Jazz wanted a big man back to backup Kanter long term and Lopez gives them that. NO turns Lopez into 1st round pick (could add sweetner like 2nd round picks or euro prospect or DeColo/Joseph IF Spurs are committed to getting Al. Hornets also shed longer contract that certainly isn't bad but they seem committed to Ryan Anderson as stretch four, have Davis and the other big kid inside.

I think Sheridan's report is most likely complete fiction or this info was given to him by Utah so someone would offer alittle more. Again all my speculation is based on IF Sheridan's "sources" are real and right. If that is the case then finding the right third team to facilitate this trade would be in best interest of the Spurs

[JonNOKC]

It has already been pointed out that there is no reason for Utah to take another quality big back. One of the reasons they are dumping Al is to free up room in the rotation. Taking back a rotation level big makes no sense if you are getting rid of one for this reason.

The will want first round picks and expirings.

Again this whole thread is based on Shreidan's article - There is no other reason to even discuss Al Jefferson to the Spurs and I seriousdly doubt there is any truth to it - but as he is the only person to put this out there and is reporting the Jazz would want Splitter - was simply speculating about alternatives that would meet Sheridan's criteria while better serving the Spurs

[TDMVPDPOY]

Again this whole thread is based on Shreidan's article - There is no other reason to even discuss Al Jefferson to the Spurs and I seriousdly doubt there is any truth to it - but as he is the only person to put this out there and is reporting the Jazz would want Splitter - was simply speculating about alternatives that would meet Sheridan's criteria while better serving the Spurs

if they want splitter, they better give us a draft pick in return or kanter....

we have nothing to lose and no need to go out on a trade, when AL jeff can be picked up as a FA...6month rental no thanks

[Richie]

Again this whole thread is based on Shreidan's article - There is no other reason to even discuss Al Jefferson to the Spurs and I seriousdly doubt there is any truth to it - but as he is the only person to put this out there and is reporting the Jazz would want Splitter - was simply speculating about alternatives that would meet Sheridan's criteria while better serving the Spurs

Sheridan isn't saying the Jazz wants Splitter. He's saying the Spurs are interested in Al and then suggests Splitter in a trade that he makes up.

As I've been saying, Green + 2013 1st is good value for Jefferson as the Jazz don't want him back next year

[exstatic]

I don't see much truth in Sheridan's report so I agree, but base on his report the Jazz wanted a big man back to backup Kanter long term and Lopez gives them that. NO turns Lopez into 1st round pick (could add sweetner like 2nd round picks or euro prospect or DeColo/Joseph IF Spurs are committed to getting Al. Hornets also shed longer contract that certainly isn't bad but they seem committed to Ryan Anderson as stretch four, have Davis and the other big kid inside.

I think Sheridan's report is most likely complete fiction or this info was given to him by Utah so someone would offer alittle more. Again all my speculation is based on IF Sheridan's "sources" are real and right. If that is the case then finding the right third team to facilitate this trade would be in best interest of the Spurs

The only thing Sheridan said that his sources said was that the two teams were talking about a Jefferson trade. Any players/needs/wants are his projections and thoughts.

[slick'81]

agreed it makes no sense for utah to take back tiago not with milsap,kanter and favors in toll

[look_at_g_shred]

Better to get Al now or in the off season??

[Richie]

Better to get Al now or in the off season??

We won't have the cap space to get him in the off season

[BatManu20]

Better to get Al now or in the off season??

Can't afford him as a FA. He'd be a half season rental, just to make one last run at a ship. Because, believe it or not, this really is our last chance.

[spurraider21]

I'd rather take milsap than al.

Hes more of a high motor guy and a more active defender. Better fit for our offense than plodding big Al

[Seventyniner]

How much will Jefferson command in the FA market this summer? If it's close to Tiago numbers, like $8-9M, the Spurs migjt rather have Al because he is a better player. If Jefferson will get $11-12M, though, the Spurs might be better off keeping Tiago. A trade for Jefferson would have to be done with an eye on the future.

[spurraider21]

Could always try to sign and trade Al or Milsap in the offseason after their rental is up

[Richie]

Can't afford him as a FA. He'd be a half season rental, just to make one last run at a ship. Because, believe it or not, this really is our last chance.

Don't see why we wouldn't re sign him if we got him, we will be able to afford it. We just wont be able to get under the cap enough to sign him as a free agent.

If we traded Green + Jackson, we'd be around $35m under the luxury tax. Easily enough to re sign Jefferson, Splitter, Manu and Jackson (with the MLE)

[spurraider21]

Don't see why we wouldn't re sign him if we got him, we will be able to afford it. We just wont be able to get under the cap enough to sign him as a free agent.

If we traded Green + Jackson, we'd be around $35m under the luxury tax. Easily enough to re sign Jefferson, Splitter, Manu and Jackson (with the MLE)
Why would you resign Jackson in a scenario where you trade Jackson :lol

[BatManu20]

Don't see why we wouldn't re sign him if we got him, we will be able to afford it. We just wont be able to get under the cap enough to sign him as a free agent.

If we traded Green + Jackson, we'd be around $35m under the luxury tax. Easily enough to re sign Jefferson, Splitter, Manu and Jackson (with the MLE)

I think some team will overpay for Jefferson and offer him $14-$15 million a year. In that case, the Spurs won't sign him.

[BatManu20]

Why would you resign Jackson in a scenario where you trade Jackson :lol

We would trade him only because his contract is the only piece that would allow us to bring in a big player. He'll be a FA, and I doubt he gets offered much money this offseason at age 35. If he wants to continue playing, I could see him signing a one year deal with the Spurs for relatively cheap. He knows the system, brings attitude, and plus I think he wants to retire a Spur. Makes sense tbh.

[spurraider21]

We would trade him only because his contract is the only piece that would allow us to bring in a big player. He'll be a FA, and I doubt he gets offered much money this offseason at age 35. If he wants to continue playing, I could see him signing a one year deal with the Spurs for relatively cheap. He knows the system, brings attitude, and plus I think he wants to retire a Spur. Makes sense tbh.
Isn't there a rule that you have to wait a full year to sign a player you traded?

[BatManu20]

Isn't there a rule that you have to wait a full year to sign a player you traded?

Oh that's right. We would have to sign him as a FA after the date in which we traded him, which is highly unlikely unless he really wants to do that, which I doubt.

[exstatic]

I think some team will overpay for Jefferson and offer him $14-$15 million a year. In that case, the Spurs won't sign him.

Right, so you HAVE to view this as a rental. People are talking about giving up two first round picks. Not going to happen.

[Seventyniner]

Oh that's right. We would have to sign him as a FA after the date in which we traded him, which is highly unlikely unless he really wants to do that, which I doubt.

Not true. The Spurs could sign him this offseason because he'll be a free agent. You're thinking of a buyout. If the Jazz trade for Jax and buy him out, he couldn't sign with the Spurs this season.

[spurraider21]

Right, so you HAVE to view this as a rental. People are talking about giving up two first round picks. Not going to happen.
What if we pull a sign and trade and get picks back in the offseason?

[Richie]

Right, so you HAVE to view this as a rental. People are talking about giving up two first round picks. Not going to happen.

If we view it as a rental, the price goes down. The Jazz know teams won't pay much to rent Jefferson.

If he comes in and the management like him, I see no reason not to offer him around $12m. Maybe he'll choose earning an extra few million on a bad team, but I think theres a good chance he'll be willing to re sign on a contender to play next to his childhood idol.

$48m/4yr would be a good deal for Jefferson, we'd have a couple years of contending and he'll still have value in 2015 if we decide to blow it up.

It's a gamble, but if we're only paying Green + a #30 pick I think it's a good move.

[Ginobili2Duncan]

How do you see minutes being handed out in that case? Would Jefferson play behind Duncan because of the chemistry of Duncan and Splitter in the starting line-up? Diaw would also play a lot more SF.

[Ginobili2Duncan]

While I have, like a lot of others, doubts on how Al Jefferson will fit, could fit with Spurs, it's hard to deny the upside of a trade like that.

If Spurs can get him for Jackson, 2 first round picks and a combination of Bonner, Blair, De Colo, Mills, Joseph, Neal, it will give Spurs the best frontcourt in the NBA with Duncan/Jefferson/Splitter/Diaw. Add to that, some good perimeter players like Parker, Ginobili, Leonard and Green, and it's a scary team on the paper.

How do you see minutes being handed out in that case? Would Jefferson play behind Duncan because of the chemistry of Duncan and Splitter in the starting line-up? Diaw would also play a lot more SF.

[JonNOKC]

The only thing Sheridan said that his sources said was that the two teams were talking about a Jefferson trade. Any players/needs/wants are his projections and thoughts.

My bad - hopefully the Jazz do not want a big back - would potentially make it better for Spurs. IF a Jefferson trade with Spurs went down I still think a third team would need to be involved given lux tax and roster size of each team. We know the Spurs would have to include Sjax + and most likely 2 additional bodies/contracts to make slary match. A third team would make it possible for Spurs to move another player or two, stay under the lux tax, and possibly fill additional holes such as backup PG, and obviously a SF to backup Kawhi.

I am prettty much on board with Bruno except for the 2 1st round picks - if we keep Tiago, Kawhi, and of course the Big 3 then you have to enertain the idea of adding an offensive post threat like Jefferson

[Ice009]

If we view it as a rental, the price goes down. The Jazz know teams won't pay much to rent Jefferson.

If he comes in and the management like him, I see no reason not to offer him around $12m. Maybe he'll choose earning an extra few million on a bad team, but I think theres a good chance he'll be willing to re sign on a contender to play next to his childhood idol.

$48m/4yr would be a good deal for Jefferson, we'd have a couple years of contending and he'll still have value in 2015 if we decide to blow it up.

It's a gamble, but if we're only paying Green + a #30 pick I think it's a good move.

You could also put a player option in Al's contact if he signs for 12 million, so then he can opt out if he wants more money to go elsewhere after year 2 or 3. What is the earliest you can put a player option in the contract?

There is no way Al is going to resign for 8-9 million, anyone who suggested that is delusional. If he was a good fit and liked it here, he would still get a minimum of 11-12 IMO.

[JonNOKC]

You could also put a player option in Al's contact if he signs for 12 million, so then he can opt out if he wants more money to go elsewhere after year 2 or 3. What is the earliest you can put a player option in the contract?

There is no way Al is going to resign for 8-9 million, anyone who suggested that is delusional. If he was a good fit and liked it here, he would still get a minimum of 11-12 IMO.

I think the success or lack thereof if this trade was to go down would have a big impact on the final number and Jefferson's willingness to maybe accept alittle below what someone else could offer, but yeah it is hard to imagine that number be less than 11-12 million/year. Also the Spurs would most likely have to choose between Splitter and Jefferson.

[spurraider21]

I don't really see a downside to acquiring Al if we aren't giving up Tiago. It's not like the team we have assembled now is going to compete for many more years anyway. Lets give it our best shot. Picking up Al certainly helps us do that. I'd personally prefer Milsap but its not like acquiring Al is going to hurt our team.

[Ice009]

I think the success or lack thereof if this trade was to go down would have a big impact on the final number and Jefferson's willingness to maybe accept alittle below what someone else could offer, but yeah it is hard to imagine that number be less than 11-12 million/year. Also the Spurs would most likely have to choose between Splitter and Jefferson.

After last night's game, I wouldn't pay Splitter more than 8-9 million a year. He's weak as piss on the boards and doesn't play tough enough consistently. He's also horrible at creating his own offense. Personally, I'd only pay him 8 million, but that probably won't be enough, someone will probably offer more.

[waisman]

Other team wants Splitter more 9M ?
I think Splitter is only in SAS Chemistry .

[Proxy]

Our role players disappeared against OKC... Al would be dependable in the playoffs. I don't think anyone is willing to say the same for Tiago.

[Spursofthemoment]

I don't even let things like this excite me anymore. We NEVER get anyone who already has a name for himself and is still relatively young. This time will be no different. In all likelihood management will have to try to make something out of nothing and get someone new again.

[lefty]

14 pages :lmao

[Hoops Czar]

The Richard Jefferson trade scarred R.C. for life. I doubt he'll ever make a move of that magnitude again. Unless Utah unloads Al for nothing, he won't make a move.

[BatManu20]

14 pages :lmao

I must say that I'm impressed with your post count. Almost 50,000?? That's pretty incredible tbh.

[BatManu20]

I don't even let things like this excite me anymore. We NEVER get anyone who already has a name for himself and is still relatively young. This time will be no different. In all likelihood management will have to try to make something out of nothing and get someone new again.

This. I bet we do make a trade, but it's for some player who never plays, or it's Blair for a future 2nd round draft pick or something of that magnitude. It's not our style to make a big splash.

[Ice009]

If we can get AJ without trading Splitter, then you simply can't turn that down.

[MaNu4Tres]

If there was truth to a possible Splitter for Jefferson deal, I see a third team being involved because Splitter just makes no sense for the Jazz because of Kanter and Favors. Hypothetically, I believe Bucks make a great third party and this proposed (long shot obv) deal makes sense to me.

Bucks get: Splitter -- Bucks get back a true big man, which they lack, to team up with Sanders for the next 3-4 years; I assume they'd lock him up obviously. They also get Jackson's expiring (Bucks don't mind getting him back for 1/2 a year because of simple economics; they are trading for the expiring, not the player.)

Jazz get: Monta Ellis -- Jazz have perhaps the worst offensive back court in the league-- Monta Ellis for 2 years helps that and opens up playing time for Kanter/ Favors. They also receive Blair (provides frontcourt depth on the bench; he'd be their 4th big) and Mills (Watson and Tinsley are arguable the 2 worst point guards in the entire league that get playing time. They have been worse than terrible, tbh. Mills gives them an upgrade at the position.

Spurs get: Al Jefferson -- Spurs get the best player of the deal; A viable option Spurs could go to offensively on the block in half court sets deep in the playoffs. Could be an underrated weapon due to Duncan and Manu's age --that age and mileage effects their efficiency/execution to a degree late in games because Pop questionably gives them the same minutes they received 8 years ago (talking playoffs, not regular season). Also, I could definitely see Spurs liking the idea of having Jefferson in the fold for the next 4 years (instead of Splitter) to team with Parker whenever Tim decides to retire.

Spurs also get L.R Mbah a Moute -- a versatile defensive player that can guard 4 positions and be a reliable/affordable and versatile SF to back up Leonard for the next 2 years. He doesn't have a great 3 point shot as of now but I could see Chip playing a role in his development in that area. He'd be an important piece because of his size/defensive ability-- which helps the Spurs match up better against the NBA's crowned favorites that is the Thunder and the Heat of Miami.

Notes: Spurs could choose to go with Dunleavy (who is having a great year for being injured in recent years) instead of Moute. Why? Going with Dunleavy would still keep Spurs under the tax and would provide the Spurs with the better offensive player that can shoot the damn ball. (What would Spurs desire at the back up 3 spot? Defense or offense? And do they want to avoid tax at any cost?). The Mbah a Moute option would put the Spurs over the tax by 556k; not sure if they'd be willing to pay the tax for him.

All in all, Spurs have a tough decision. Hypothetically with this deal, Spurs are risking their chemistry defensively and offensively right now with this proposed (long shot) trade, but in the long run I believe this trade would IMO give the Spurs a higher ceiling in the playoffs this year and the next 3-4 years, tbh. Tough decision, but since I'm a person that is in love with the long run of things, I'd have to pull the trigger.

[Spursfanfromafar]

If there was truth to a possible Splitter for Jefferson deal, I see a third team being involved because Splitter just makes no sense for the Jazz because of Kanter and Favors. Hypothetically, I believe Bucks make a great third party and this proposed (long shot obv) deal makes sense to me.

The Bucks say no, because they will only deal if they can dump Gooden's contract or reduce their front court logjam (Dalembert, Udoh, Sanders, Gooden, Henson, Ilyasova, Przybilla)..not add to it. And I don't see why they will give upon Mbah a Moute when he is a starter for an expiring in Jackson.

The Jazz also say no to the ballhogging Ellis.

[MaNu4Tres]

The Bucks say no, because they will only deal if they can dump Gooden's contract or reduce their front court logjam (Dalembert, Udoh, Sanders, Gooden, Henson, Ilyasova, Przybilla)..not add to it. And I don't see why they will give upon Mbah a Moute when he is a starter for an expiring in Jackson.

The Jazz also say no to the ballhogging Ellis.

Gooden won't be going anywhere, unless the Bucks are willing to give up their future 1st round picks the next 2-3 years, tbh. He's just going to be an expensive bench warmer the next 1-2 years, they know they have to swallow their fuck up until his contract becomes more trade-able (when it becomes expiring). As for Sammy, Dalembert will be traded at the deadline to a contender or he will be bought out (he's irrelevant to the Bucks' depth as is Pryzbilla). That's 3 players on the front-court that you mentioned that are pretty irrelevant and that are as good as gone. And with Splitter, they'd be receiving a better big man than any big they have currently on the roster. They should value a Splitter, Sanders, Ilyasova, Henson front-court rotation going forward.

If the Jazz know they aren't moving forward with Jefferson, they'd want to get talent back in return before he walks. Ellis, IMO, does that at a position they desperately need.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

To give up draft picks and expirings for Jefferson would be the best trade the Spurs have made since.....well the previous Jefferson trade.

It's too good to be true, so it probably isn't, but if they can still keep Splitter and get Jefferson that would be a championship trade.

[MaNu4Tres]

To give up draft picks and expirings for Jefferson would be the best trade the Spurs have made since.....well the previous Jefferson trade.

It's too good to be true, so it probably isn't, but if they can still keep Splitter and get Jefferson that would be a championship trade.

True, I just don't think it's realistically possible from a value standpoint to net Jefferson without giving up Splitter. That be great if they could though. Maybe a Jackson, Bonner, Cory Joseph and a 1st or two 1sts could get it done. (Only if Dennis Lindsey is really high on Cory Joseph, and he realistically could be. Joseph has a skill-set that has potential written all over it. Not to mention Jazz's weakest position is PG and the future at that position is pretty damn foggy. )

[Bruno]

How do you see minutes being handed out in that case? Would Jefferson play behind Duncan because of the chemistry of Duncan and Splitter in the starting line-up? Diaw would also play a lot more SF.

At PF/C:
I would go with a 3 PF/C rotation of Duncan/Al/Splitter. Duncan/Splitter could keep starting but Al would play about 30mpg from the bench. Duncan's minutes would be reduced a little to preserve him. Diaw would play 10/15mpg paired with Duncan or Al.

At SF:
I would give Kawhi more minutes. To back him up, I would go with Manu/Green with Spurs playing a 3 guards lineup. Playing a 3 guards lineup would be easier if Spurs can keep Neal and one of De Colo or Mills. I'm not sold at all with Diaw at SF on a regular basis.

[BatManu20]

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1520727-nba-rumors-al-jefferson-would-make-spurs-favorites-over-okc

Not that I consider BR legitimate or anything.. but an interesting read none-the-less.

[szkorhetz]

If we can get AJ without trading Splitter, then you simply can't turn that down.

This. If we get the opportunity, we just can't pass it up. I love Jack too, but unfortunately he looks like a scrub..

[admiralsnackbar]

Our role players disappeared against OKC... Al would be dependable in the playoffs. I don't think anyone is willing to say the same for Tiago.

I am. What has big Al ever really accomplished? A: dick. He's a fine player, but he's not known for his infallibility.

Splitter has been a MVP at the highest level of Eurobasket and has begun to figure out the NBA game/get the respect of the refs.

Who to pick...


hmmmmmm....

[rascal]

After last night's game, I wouldn't pay Splitter more than 8-9 million a year. He's weak as piss on the boards and doesn't play tough enough consistently. He's also horrible at creating his own offense. Personally, I'd only pay him 8 million, but that probably won't be enough, someone will probably offer more.

That is why trading Splitter now makes sense. The Spurs are going to over pay for this guy.

[Johnny RIngo]

That is why trading Splitter now makes sense. The Spurs are going to over pay for this guy.

I have no problem with trading Splitter. Just not for fucking Al Jefferson.

[SpursIndonesia]

How do you see minutes being handed out in that case? Would Jefferson play behind Duncan because of the chemistry of Duncan and Splitter in the starting line-up? Diaw would also play a lot more SF.

As crazy as it might sound, if that's the line up we have, i won't be afraid to pull TD off the bench -Big Al starts alongside Splitter basically replacing TD's production offensively, so he can lead the bench scoring alongside Manu, of if Manu is brought into starter, Neal will have plenty of open looks with TD banging down low against opponent bench scrub bigmen. Ofcourse, TD will still play as the closer, alongside whoever playing good (Big Al/Splitter/small ball PF).

[SpursIndonesia]

At PF/C:
I would go with a 3 PF/C rotation of Duncan/Al/Splitter. Duncan/Splitter could keep starting but Al would play about 30mpg from the bench. Duncan's minutes would be reduced a little to preserve him. Diaw would play 10/15mpg paired with Duncan or Al.

At SF:
I would give Kawhi more minutes. To back him up, I would go with Manu/Green with Spurs playing a 3 guards lineup. Playing a 3 guards lineup would be easier if Spurs can keep Neal and one of De Colo or Mills. I'm not sold at all with Diaw at SF on a regular basis.

I think Diaw can be effective at SF, as long his minute & match up is monitored, Kawhi HAS to get more minutes though, around 35 minutes should be okay, he's young.

By getting Big Al, basically the Spurs must forget of matching up opponents small ball & have to try to force their advantage in size in the middle.

[szkorhetz]

I truly believe that the whole summer of 2013 will come down to DH. If he leaves LA, what options will he have? Cavs, Mavs, Spurs, Hawks? Who else will be able to give him the max with a decent roster? If he won't leave LA, who are the best available players? Smith, Kaman, Jefferson, Millsap? Of course I would choose Smith, but if he stays with Atlanta, Al is the obvious player. We won't win our fifth ring with the current roster, I thing we can assume this. We need to make a move, and Jax is the most expandable player. I Love him too, I remember game six, and yes, we would need another long SF with range. But, I would easily give him up to get the most skilled post player in the NBA... We saw who Diaw collapsed in the WCF and who tired Timmy was in the second halves. I really think we are just two puzzles away from the fifth. A backup PG, and someone who can bang down in the low post, and scoring at will down there. It would also save up Tim's body and knees.
If we can get Jefferson without giving up Splitter, it is a no-brainer.

[CGD]

I suppose the Spurs would also be front runners for Jefferson's services when he's a free agent this summer. Given his peronality i think he'd welcome the chance to play with TD. If I'm not mistaken, acquiring him now really means acquiring his Bird rights which impacts HOW the Spurs can resign him this summer as oppose to acquiring him in the open market.

I see a trade for Jefferson now as a move for the future post-TD, and really like the idea of a front court of KL, Al, and Splitter. I think a trade can happen without giving up Splitter. Jazzfan scoffs at the idea of not getting a great player in return given Al's production this year, but at this point he's really just an expiring contract given the Jazzs desire to feature Favors and Kantor. So if your the Jazz youre really giving up additional cap saving to the Spurs (difference btw Jax and Al contracts) minus what you get back in parts. They really have little leverage to hold out for something amazing on return.

[Proxy]

I am. What has big Al ever really accomplished? A: dick. He's a fine player, but he's not known for his infallibility.

Splitter has been a MVP at the highest level of Eurobasket and has begun to figure out the NBA game/get the respect of the refs.

Who to pick...


hmmmmmm....

nearly 20 and 10 on a fg% of .5 against our Spurs last year, in the playoffs.

:crySpanish league MVP
:cryrespect from refs
:cryfiguring out the game

[DesignatedT]

I think Al would be a great fit here. Sure he isn't exactly the p&r player we are used to but running some different offense could be a good thing. He can create and score himself and put up 30 pts if he needs to. Letting him play in the post and Duncan move strictly to that Robinson "5" role that David played the latter years of his career could be both beneficial to the team and especially to Tim in the long run. Playing Duncan next to Splitter doesn't necessarily let Duncan do that because he is still relied upon to score and create offense because Tiago can't do that for himself. Tiago has to be spoon fed at the rim. Defensively, I don't think they can be as solid as Tim/Tiago but I think they can still be a pretty dang good combination. Al could definitely help on the glass. I just think having somebody else other than Tony to be able to rely on when it matters would be huge for the Spurs. Manu and Duncan, while still our most valuable pieces just can't do it anymore at all times. and sorry, but In not giving the ball to Tiago with the game on the line.


If the Spurs could somehow pull off this trade while keeping Tiago then it would definitely make for the sickest front court in the NBA. Now that would be something. Just not sure what kind of Deal Al is looking for this summer.


And people need to stop acting like the Spurs are going to attract some big name FA here with some cap space. Not gunna happen.

[exstatic]

I think Al would be a great fit here. Sure he isn't exactly the p&r player we are used to but running some different offense could be a good thing. He can create and score himself and put up 30 pts if he needs to. Letting him play in the post and Duncan move strictly to that Robinson "5" role that David played the latter years of his career could be both beneficial to the team and especially to Tim in the long run. Playing Duncan next to Splitter doesn't necessarily let Duncan do that because he is still relied upon to score and create offense because Tiago can't do that for himself. Tiago has to be spoon fed at the rim. Defensively, I don't think they can be as solid as Tim/Tiago but I think they can still be a pretty dang good combination. Al could definitely help on the glass. I just think having somebody else other than Tony to be able to rely on when it matters would be huge for the Spurs. Manu and Duncan, while still our most valuable pieces just can't do it anymore at all times. and sorry, but In not giving the ball to Tiago with the game on the line.


If the Spurs could somehow pull off this trade while keeping Tiago then it would definitely make for the sickest front court in the NBA. Now that would be something. Just not sure what kind of Deal Al is looking for this summer.


And people need to stop acting like the Spurs are going to attract some big name FA here with some cap space. Not gunna happen.

He just turned 28 last month. This is literally his LAST chance to cash out with a big contract. That's why I'm strictly viewing this as a rental. He left money on the table when he signed his first post-rookie contract in Minnesota. Doubt he does so again.

[TDMVPDPOY]

SPURS trade for him, then flip him into some assets in a sign and trade deal...spurs should pull it, if they plan on rebuilding if the choke in the playoffs continue with the current roster this season

[TJastal]

He just turned 28 last month. This is literally his LAST chance to cash out with a big contract. That's why I'm strictly viewing this as a rental. He left money on the table when he signed his first post-rookie contract in Minnesota. Doubt he does so again.

One year rental :lmao

Also :lmao @ all these spurs fans clamoring for this lumbering albatross of fail.

He may be only 28, but his numbers peaked about 5 years ago and have been in slow decline since. Never made an all-star team. Post season resume includes two 1st round playoff exits in 9 years. Defensively, the guy is a complete and utter joke. He really is alone at the top of the heap as far as epitomizing laziness and hollow stats. Doesn't run the floor, won't fit into the spurs' offense especially well, since all he has is a weak pick & pop. I'd even rather the spurs tried to pry away Amare Stoudemire, at least he would run the P&R consistently in the offense and his pick and pop is 10X better than Jefferson's.

:lmao

[td4mvp2k]

I'd rather take milsap than al.

Hes more of a high motor guy and a more active defender. Better fit for our offense than plodding big Al:tu

[Brunodf]

People don't realize how much AJ would hurt Parker/offense/cap space AND our D...

[AFBlue]

One year rental :lmao

Also :lmao @ all these spurs fans clamoring for this lumbering albatross of fail.

He may be only 28, but his numbers peaked about 5 years ago and have been in slow decline since. Never made an all-star team. Post season resume includes two 1st round playoff exits in 9 years. Defensively, the guy is a complete and utter joke. He really is alone at the top of the heap as far as epitomizing laziness and hollow stats. Doesn't run the floor, won't fit into the spurs' offense especially well, since all he has is a weak pick & pop. I'd even rather the spurs tried to pry away Amare Stoudemire, at least he would run the P&R consistently in the offense and his pick and pop is 10X better than Jefferson's.

:lmao

You lost all credit when you said you'd take Amare over Al. His contract is the definition of albatross at over $20M for the next three years and one injury away from retirement. You also misrepresented Al. Yes, he's a bad (slow) defender in the pick-and-roll. But, he's an efficient offensive player and he's been consistent throughout his career in every category, even ticking up in assists each season. The characterization that he peaked doesn't bear out statistically.

I'm not necessarily advocating for Al, but you should at least be honest about what he is and realize that you're WAY off if you think Amare is better.

[exstatic]

:lol at people bashing big Al. He's a bigger version of ZBo, a player people here are constantly salivating over.

[dunkman]

Any news about Al Jeff? Is the Spurs interest for real?

[Richie]

:lol at people bashing big Al. He's a bigger version of ZBo, a player people here are constantly salivating over.

Anyone watching this Nets game should realise how good a deal this could be for us. If we replace one of Diaw/Bonner/Blair in the rotation with Al Jefferson we would lose little to nothing in defence but gain so much offensively

[hater]

The way our bigs are playing this trade seems reasonable now

[GB20]

we need him in this team. he has so many weapons on offense.

[exstatic]

The way our bigs are playing this trade seems reasonable now

It's been reasonable since the get go. Sure, he has some warts. Guess what: perfect two way players don't hit the trade market.

[Ice009]

It's been reasonable since the get go. Sure, he has some warts. Guess what: perfect two way players don't hit the trade market.

Exactly. Good take.

[G-Dawgg]

The Spurs could hide his defensive shortcomings in many ways. Look at what they do when Matt Bonner's ass is on the court lol\

[BatManu20]

Really hope this rumor somehow comes to fruition.

[ace3g]

San Antonio Spurs (http://sulia.com/channel/san-antonio-spurs)
Ric Bucher (http://sulia.com/ricbucher/)
+ Trust Latest word on Utah Jazz and who they'll keep vs. deal between Al Jefferson and Paul Millsap: Jefferson is the likeliest to stay right now, according to several opposing team executives. Consensus is the Jazz can't afford to keep both with Gordon Hayward soon to be eligible for an extension and the belief that Hayward is in the team's long-term plans

[DesignatedT]

K. Just give us Milsap for Neal, Bonner, Blair and two first rounders. Problem solved.

[BatManu20]

San Antonio Spurs (http://sulia.com/channel/san-antonio-spurs)
Ric Bucher (http://sulia.com/ricbucher/)
+ Trust Latest word on Utah Jazz and who they'll keep vs. deal between Al Jefferson and Paul Millsap: Jefferson is the likeliest to stay right now, according to several opposing team executives. Consensus is the Jazz can't afford to keep both with Gordon Hayward soon to be eligible for an extension and the belief that Hayward is in the team's long-term plans

Well RIP to that potential trade then.


K. Just give us Milsap for Neal, Bonner, Blair and two first rounders. Problem solved.

Way too much to give up for Millsap imo.

[exstatic]

:lol No one believes the first rumor, but suddenly the second one is INSTANTLY credible.

[eDizzle20]

I'm not surprised that Jefferson would be more likely to stay. Excellent low post scores are hard to come by even if his D is less than desirable.

[EricB]

Milsap would be a much better fit on both ends than Jefferson.

[Mel_13]

Well RIP to that potential trade then.

That trade rumor was DOA, tbqh.

[crc21209]

Never liked the Jefferson trade rumor to begin with. Now if the Spurs could somehow pry away Millsap for some sort of package of Neal/Mills/De Colo (one of them), Bonner, Blair, and a pick, I'd be all for it...:tu

[crc21209]

It's frustrating that the Spurs are possibly ONE big away from basically having NO flaws on the team. Seeing the combination of Blair and Bonner on the floor at the same time is painful. We're set with TD, Splitter, and Diaw. We just need one more legit big man capable of playing 10-15 minutes a night. If only we could get a Millsap, Landry, Bass type of big man...

[BatManu20]

We should be trying really hard to get Millsap right now. We need another capable big badly.

[callo1]

Having some in-laws in Utah, I was expecting the Jazz to resign Jefferson, and ship out Milsap...that simply makes more sense for them. According to latest reports out of the Jazz camp, it appears they are looking to do that indeed.

I like that deal far better tbh, provided that the Spurs could do it right.

[Bruno]

It looks like Utah is copying Spurs trick when they leaked that Parker was available just to raise Hill trade value.

While Al Jefferson is a little better than Millsap, keeping Millsap would be the right move for Utah. Milsap will just work better in a 3 men PF/C rotation with Favors and Kanter while Jefferson won't because he can't really be paired with Kanter.

[Jordanobili2320]

UPDATE: SUNS INTERESTED IN BIG AL

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/226056/Suns-Interested-In-Al-Jefferson-Hayward-Shumpert

[Dverde]

Jefferson is a much better fit for the Spurs than Millsap. He has a polished jumper and post moves. His defense is okay (not lazy), but Duncan will be around to anchor it. What he brings on the offensive end would more than make up losing Splitter on Defense. He is also good insurance for Duncan if he misses more games. I wouldn't even pursue Millsap. He is a slightly bigger version of Blair. Might as well just keep Splitter and Blair.

[TDMVPDPOY]

al jeff defense...will improve 10folds if he attempts to put both arms up...

[Bruno]

http://www.nba.com/bulls/news/smith_130218.html

Spurs could target Jefferson with trade deadline looming

There are plenty of reasons for trades: Economics to get out of the luxury tax and the opportunity to add a young player or draft pick for your future. Though the most intriguing always has been the one to perhaps put you over the top for a title.

The name of Al Jefferson of the Utah Jazz, a free agent after this season, has been speculated about as well. And it would seem to me he’s the big name to watch. And where I’d watch would be the San Antonio Spurs because this may be their last and best chance to win a championship.

It seems unlikely barring any major injury anyone can upset Miami in the East. But with the Harden and Gay trades and the Lakers’ issues, the West seems wide open now for the Spurs. They’re the most stable team and have the best depth along with the Clippers. The Clippers are just coming together, but the Spurs may have the shortest window with the ages of Tim Duncan and Tony Parker and Manu Ginobili a free agent. This may well be their now or never year, and with the Harden trade perhaps the open window before the Thunder recover.

The chance for a great short-term rental to buttress their chances for this season seems there with Jefferson, who is unlikely to resign with the Jazz given Derrick Favors and Enes Kanter waiting in the wings and Utah’s desperate need for a point guard. Add a distributor and they have the nucleus to begin to make a run in the West. The Spurs happen to have that guy hanging around in rookie Nando De Colo, who could fit in nicely. The Spurs add Stephen Jackson and perhaps one low paid player to make the money workout and Jefferson gives the Spurs great insurance and front court depth with Duncan and Tiago Splitter. It’s a heck of a team to go into the playoffs with considering the Spurs’ depth, shooting and overall strength. When you have a chance to go for a title, you have to take it. Especially with a team like the Spurs which once Duncan leaves may not get many chances for years to come.

[eDizzle20]

http://www.nba.com/bulls/news/smith_130218.html

Spurs could target Jefferson with trade deadline looming

There are plenty of reasons for trades: Economics to get out of the luxury tax and the opportunity to add a young player or draft pick for your future. Though the most intriguing always has been the one to perhaps put you over the top for a title.

The name of Al Jefferson of the Utah Jazz, a free agent after this season, has been speculated about as well. And it would seem to me he’s the big name to watch. And where I’d watch would be the San Antonio Spurs because this may be their last and best chance to win a championship.

It seems unlikely barring any major injury anyone can upset Miami in the East. But with the Harden and Gay trades and the Lakers’ issues, the West seems wide open now for the Spurs. They’re the most stable team and have the best depth along with the Clippers. The Clippers are just coming together, but the Spurs may have the shortest window with the ages of Tim Duncan and Tony Parker and Manu Ginobili a free agent. This may well be their now or never year, and with the Harden trade perhaps the open window before the Thunder recover.

The chance for a great short-term rental to buttress their chances for this season seems there with Jefferson, who is unlikely to resign with the Jazz given Derrick Favors and Enes Kanter waiting in the wings and Utah’s desperate need for a point guard. Add a distributor and they have the nucleus to begin to make a run in the West. The Spurs happen to have that guy hanging around in rookie Nando De Colo, who could fit in nicely. The Spurs add Stephen Jackson and perhaps one low paid player to make the money workout and Jefferson gives the Spurs great insurance and front court depth with Duncan and Tiago Splitter. It’s a heck of a team to go into the playoffs with considering the Spurs’ depth, shooting and overall strength. When you have a chance to go for a title, you have to take it. Especially with a team like the Spurs which once Duncan leaves may not get many chances for years to come.

This is the trade I would like to happen, if any. Big Al's offensive arsenal is unbelievable even though his defense is less than desirable. To me De Colo does have value and I think will be a good point guard in years to come. This also seems somewhat realistic. My biggest fear however, is the Bledsoe for Milsap trade rumor that has been lingering. Bledsoe has star potential. I also love how year after year it's all about the Spurs' last run for a title :lmao.

[lmbebo]

could we liken this to a Nazr for Rose trade?

[dunkman]

The Spurs didn't make the finals in '12, because Pop was too late adjusting for the Thunder adjustments. By the time he adjusted the reds stepped in (games 5 and 6). It's probably a good idea to have another player capable of making indefensible shots in that circumstances.

But by shipping Jack, the Spurs will have to use Diaw at SF.

[look_at_g_shred]

Really curious to see if Spurs make a move before the deadline.

[dbreiden83080]

If he can't play D do we really need him? Spurs score 105 pts a game the offense is hardly a problem. He could help Tim on the glass but he needs to be able to guard..

[jjktkk]

If he can't play D do we really need him? Spurs score 105 pts a game the offense is hardly a problem. He could help Tim on the glass but he needs to be able to guard..

This. I Would rather trade for Paul Millsap, than AJ, if I was doing a trade with Utah.

[Mel_13]

Sheridan: Al Jefferson to Spurs?
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By Chris Sheridan
February 06, 2013 at 2:00 PM
The NBA trade deadline journalism racket is a tricky minefield to navigate. The business is driven by rumors, many of which are founded in truth; others of which are utterly fictitious.

Distinguishing between the two differentiates the good basketball Web sites from the bad sites.

But figuring out who is available is not rocket science if you speak to the right people, and I speak to a lot of plugged-in people on a regular basis.

Here is the latest they are telling me: The San Antonio Spurs are the front-runners to land Al Jefferson in a trade with the Utah Jazz — and they are frontrunners like Secretariat was in the 1973 Belmont Stakes.

It took almost 40 years, but Sham finally won.

[crc21209]

:lol Sheridan