Texas Gov. Rick Perry Courts California

[coyotes_geek]

Texas Gov. Rick Perry has released a radio ad in California hoping to lure businesses to the Lone Star state. Unlike California, Texas has no corporate or state personal income taxes.

"Building a business is tough," Gov. Perry says in the ad, "but I hear building a business in California is next to impossible." In the commercial he touts Texas' "low taxes, sensible regulations, and fair legal system." (Hey, he remembered all three reasons!)

(Read More: America's Top States for Job Creation 2012.)


This isn't the first time the Texas Republican has come courting California, but he has never taken to the airwaves before.

link (http://finance.yahoo.com/news/texas-gov-rick-perry-courts-175722705.html;_ylt=AiI3Hu83mzzz_UOQYnxORnaiuYdG;_ ylu=X3oDMTQ4ZGRncjl2BG1pdANDTkJDIFRvcCBTdG9yaWVzBH BrZwM2NWFmZDZkOS03ZWYwLTNjOTItYTRlMC01YTBjMTI0Mzgx ZWQEcG9zAzMEc2VjA01lZGlhQkxpc3RNaXhlZExQQ0FUZW1wBH ZlcgNlZGYxMTExMC03MTRmLTExZTItYmZmOS05ODBhMjIyOWM1 NmQ-;_ylg=X3oDMTFpNzk0NjhtBGludGwDdXMEbGFuZwNlbi11cwRw c3RhaWQDBHBzdGNhdANob21lBHB0A3NlY3Rpb25z;_ylv=3)

[boutons_deux]

"I hear building a business in California is next to impossible"

RickyBobby, hears as badly as he thinks. ignorant fuck.

[coyotes_geek]

Certainly nothing wrong with a governor advocating for his own state's economic interests. Don't think I've ever seen a guv do it in such a brazen manner though.

[boutons_deux]

Certainly nothing wrong with a governor advocating for his own state's economic interests. Don't think I've ever seen a guv do it in such a brazen manner though.

$19B/year in tax expenditures to business in the state with almost lowest per-student spending, and one of the highest poverty rates.

[coyotes_geek]

Yes.

[TeyshaBlue]

"low taxes, sensible regulations, and fair legal system." (Hey, he remembered all three reasons!)
:lol:lol

[coyotes_geek]

:lol That wasn't even a CG edit. The author does not appear to be all that big a fan of The Rickster.

[TeyshaBlue]

$19B/year in tax expenditures to business in the state with almost lowest per-student spending, and one of the highest poverty rates.

BLS Supplemental Poverty Measurements. Look into it.

[TeyshaBlue]

:lol
:lol That wasn't even a CG edit. The author does not appear to be all that big a fan of The Rickster.

The Rickstar has fans?

[ElNono]

You would think if the benefits were so great, he wouldn't need to beg...

[coyotes_geek]

:lol

The Rickstar has fans?

We seem to be unable to get rid of the guy, so he's got to have a few.

[TeyshaBlue]

You would think if the benefits were so great, he wouldn't need to beg...

He doesn't, really. There's been an ongoing movement of businesses from Cali to Tx for the last 20 years. However, that movement has not only stopped recently, but in the aggregate numbers of new businesses in Cali, it's actually reversed.

[TeyshaBlue]

We seem to be unable to get rid of the guy, so he's got to have a few.

Capt. JFK Hair appreciates your support. lol

[coyotes_geek]

You would think if the benefits were so great, he wouldn't need to beg...

In terms of the state's economy, he doesn't. Texas will be pro-business with or without Perry.

I think this is more about Perry's personal political ambitions and wanting to "create jobs" to brag about.

[ElNono]

Exactly... sounds more like a personal campaign...

[coyotes_geek]

Capt. JFK Hair appreciates your support. lol

http://caucuses.desmoinesregister.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/Perry4.jpg

Watch it Mister!

[Blake]

My unapologetic conspiracy theory:

Rick is gunning for the 2016 GOP bid and using Texas tax dollar to spread his name and voice over the nation's hairwaves.

[RandomGuy]

Certainly nothing wrong with a governor advocating for his own state's economic interests. Don't think I've ever seen a guv do it in such a brazen manner though.

It is the whole "democrats run california, republicans run Texas" dick measuring contest.

No surprise that the idiot in the governors mansion subscribes to it.

The two states aren't comparable, for a host of reasons, but that doesn't stop anyone from trying.

[boutons_deux]

It is the whole "democrats run california, republicans run Texas" dick measuring contest.

No surprise that the idiot in the governors mansion subscribes to it.

The two states aren't comparable, for a host of reasons, but that doesn't stop anyone from trying.

RickyBobby will be one salivating after CA if CA figures out how to get to the Monterey shale gas/oil (4x bigger than Bakken) without destroying the land and water.

[RandomGuy]

In terms of the state's economy, he doesn't. Texas will be pro-business with or without Perry.

I think this is more about Perry's personal political ambitions and wanting to "create jobs" to brag about.

Kind of like hte fucktarded tax cuts he did a few years ago, so he could have that little box checked for his presidential run.

:bang

You know, the ones that built in structural deficits that will get worse and worse over time, and that he will be able to hand off as a huge problem to his successor. GOP governors tend to do that a lot.

http://www.window.state.tx.us/news/60515letter.html

[RandomGuy]

In terms of the state's economy, he doesn't. Texas will be pro-business with or without Perry.

I think this is more about Perry's personal political ambitions and wanting to "create jobs" to brag about.

The problem is that the "pro-business" ideology wins out over all other concerns. It is good to be pro-business, but when you start turning a blind eye to certain illegal activity because the company hired a lobbyist to get the governor to have parts of the state government look the other way, then it becomes a problem.

While I cannot flesh out details, I have seen this happen firsthand. It was rather shocking and appalling.

Your state government will tolerate illegal behavior if it means that we can still claim to be "business friendly". The people in charge have directly placed ideology over public good and the rule of law.

[boutons_deux]

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2013/02/03/us/californias-hydraulic-fracturing-hotbed.html?ref=us

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/04/us/vast-oil-reserve-may-now-be-within-reach-and-battle-heats-up.html?pagewanted=all

[coyotes_geek]

It is the whole "democrats run california, republicans run Texas" dick measuring contest.

No surprise that the idiot in the governors mansion subscribes to it.

The two states aren't comparable, for a host of reasons, but that doesn't stop anyone from trying.

Agreed.


Kind of like hte fucktarded tax cuts he did a few years ago, so he could have that little box checked for his presidential run.

:bang

You know, the ones that built in structural deficits that will get worse and worse over time, and that he will be able to hand off as a huge problem to his successor. GOP governors tend to do that a lot.

http://www.window.state.tx.us/news/60515letter.html

Agreed again.

[coyotes_geek]

The problem is that the "pro-business" ideology wins out over all other concerns. It is good to be pro-business, but when you start turning a blind eye to certain illegal activity because the company hired a lobbyist to get the governor to have parts of the state government look the other way, then it becomes a problem.

While I cannot flesh out details, I have seen this happen firsthand. It was rather shocking and appalling.

Your state government will tolerate illegal behavior if it means that we can still claim to be "business friendly". The people in charge have directly placed ideology over public good and the rule of law.

Agreed one more time.

[coyotes_geek]

Apparently the radio ad was just setting up the personal visit.


California, here he comes.

Gov. Rick Perry will head Sunday to the Golden State bent on poaching businesses in high tech, bio tech, finance, insurance and film.

During a four-day swing though San Francisco, Silicon Valley, Los Angeles and Orange County, Perry will also hold a reception for Californians who responded to recent radio spots he ran in California inviting businesses to “come check out Texas.”

link (http://www.statesman.com/news/news/state-regional-govt-politics/perry-heads-to-california-on-job-poaching-trip/nWJkC/)

[boutons_deux]

Quelle Surprise! New York Times Takes Up Empty Threats by Rich Over Taxes (http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2013/02/quelle-surprise-new-york-times-takes-up-empty-threats-by-rich-over-taxes.html)


The New York Times comes in on the side of the whining rich in a piece titled, “Two-Tax Rise Tests Wealthy in California (http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/07/us/millionaires-consider-leaving-california-over-taxes.html?hp&_r=1&).” It starts by depicting how hard pressed the wealthy are in California because they pay higher income taxes than in any other state in the US, and are also being hit by Federal “tax-the-rich” levies. Funny how there’s no mention of increased taxes on middle class folk, namely the increase in regressive payroll taxes and coming benefits cuts in Medicare and Social Security. Nor do we see a word of how many of the top rich are private equity or venture capital fund managers, and already organize their lives to have virtually all of their labor income subject to capital gains treatment. If the Times could be bothered to talk about effective income tax rates, as opposed to marginal tax rates, it would puncture the pretense that the rich are being abused.

It isn’t until paragraph 12 that we are finally told the thesis of the article is likely all wet:

Some of those earners seem at least resigned to the tax burden as a cost of being able to live in California rather than, say, Texas.
“I am happy to pay my taxes, whatever they are: no problem with me,” said David Geffen, the entertainment mogul, who owns estates on the oceanfront in Malibu and on the hedge-lined streets of Beverly Hills. He said he thought it could hurt the business climate, but added, “I don’t think anybody of means is really going to move because of it.”


Notice how the lead in misrepresents the quote? Geffen isn’t “resigned” which implies resentful; he is HAPPY to pay taxes, meaning he accepts them as the price of civilization and recognizes that he is rich enough that they don’t make a dent
in his lifestyle. And he says even the resentful aren’t going anywhere.

The next bit confirms that the most the rich are likely to do is grouse:

Cristobal Young, an assistant professor of sociology with the Center on Poverty and Inequality at Stanford, conducted a study last fall that concluded that tax rates had little effect on where millionaires choose to live.
Mr. Young said he suspected that few, if any, millionaires would leave or stay away because of the tax increase. More likely, he said, they would find ways of reducing their tax burden, with loopholes or income avoidance, or simply reduce their work.


Reader DK provided a good shred:

What’s with journalists named ‘Adam’ … here’s a truly ridiculous NYTimes article by Adam Nagourney:

It’s a sort of People magazine piece: ZOMG! What are they doing to the wealthy now!! Isn’t it fun to watch how desperate tax grabs from the top 1% trigger musical chairs of moving out of high tax states, tax evasion, reducing work load and so forth. And, we can even quote economists about this!!

Oh, yes, we’ll make sure to have ‘balance’ in our story. “Some” people say that actually moving out of California is too severe an overreaction. But, they’ll never be able to prove it isn’t happening because, Adam tells us, these things are devilishly hard to track! (Good thing for Adam: never let any empiricism get in the way of a juicy story grounded in rumors!).

The entire article is of, by and for the wealthy. Not a word about whether/how raising taxes at the top affects the economy, affects investment, helps fund stabilizers such as government programs, jobs and safety net measures. No, none of that when you have a brilliant, proven Governor such as Rick Perry begging California millionaires to experience the liberty of Texas (and the “Adam-envying” sycophants at CNN trolling for first hand accounts of wealthy Americans put out and pissed off about these infringements on their ‘liberty’).

Really, one wonders just why Adam Nagourney is so happy being a court jester? Do he and Adam Davidson have matching costumes? Because clearly they are dancing to the same music and choreography.


Brace yourselves. We are only going to hear more kvetching from the rich for being asked to take a wee dose of the austerity medicine they are all too happy to force on the middle class and poor.

http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2013/02/quelle-surprise-new-york-times-takes-up-empty-threats-by-rich-over-taxes.html#RwGkHwcEL0vDd2cF.99

[ElNono]

Apparently the radio ad was just setting up the personal visit.

link (http://www.statesman.com/news/news/state-regional-govt-politics/perry-heads-to-california-on-job-poaching-trip/nWJkC/)

Wonder if he's gonna wear this jacket when he goes through San Francisco, tbh...

http://i49.tinypic.com/feql2o.jpg

[TeyshaBlue]

Wonder if he's gonna wear this jacket when he goes through San Francisco, tbh...

http://i49.tinypic.com/feql2o.jpg

We can only hope. lol

[coyotes_geek]

Wonder if he's gonna wear this jacket when he goes through San Francisco, tbh...

http://i49.tinypic.com/feql2o.jpg

I would think so. Destined to be popular with the locals, plus he needs something with enough pockets to hold all those checks from the Texas Enterprise Fund he'll be offering up.

[leemajors]

Hopefully someone asks how Texas' Medical Marijuana plan is working.

[boutons_deux]

Michigan Medical Marijuana Program Nets $6.3M To State (http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2013/02/08/1561551/michigan-medical-marijuana-program-nets-63m-to-state/)http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2013/02/08/1561551/michigan-medical-marijuana-program-nets-63m-to-state/

Even extreme fringe Repug VA is closer than TX will ever be

GOP Virginia Attorney General Open To Pot Legalization (http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2013/02/07/1558771/gop-virginia-attorney-general-open-to-pot-legalization/)
http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2013/02/07/1558771/gop-virginia-attorney-general-open-to-pot-legalization/

About the only way TX goes mj is if RickyBobby give a mj TX monopoly to one of his rich buddies, like he did with cancer research.

[Blake]

Wonder if he's gonna wear this jacket when he goes through San Francisco, tbh...

http://i49.tinypic.com/feql2o.jpg

Rick Perry bringing gay businesses to Texas would be awesome for so many reasons.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

This reminds me of US policy from the 19th century. Refuse to invest outside of elites domestically and take other people's shit elsewhere. Except today we cannot go and control and con places like Singapore, China and Cuba or just straight up steal from Spain and Mexico so we feed at the expense of our own family. If I were from California I would have to look at Perry not as only a moron but also as a first rate dickhead.

[RandomGuy]

Agreed.



Agreed again.

I think one thing that IS a valid comparison is that California managed to balance its budget.

The two states might be hard to fully compare, but either you can balance things or not.

[boutons_deux]

Contrary To GOP Rhetoric, Low-Tax States Have Worse Economic Growth (http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2013/02/28/1654621/low-tax-states-no-growth/)


In reality, states that levy personal income taxes, including the states with the highest top rates, have seen more economic growth per capita and less decline in their median income level over the last ten years than the nine states that do not tax income. Unemployment rates have been nearly identical across states with and without income taxes.


– Four of the nine states without income taxes are actually doing worse than the average state in regards to economic growth per capita: Texas, Tennessee, Florida, and Nevada.

– Five of the nine states without income taxes are doing worse than average in terms of median income growth: New Hampshire, Florida, Tennessee, Alaska, and Nevada.

– Six of the nine states without income taxes had higher than average annual unemployment rates over the last decade: Texas, Florida, Tennessee, Washington, Alaska, and Nevada.

http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/hightaxstates.png


http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2013/02/28/1654621/low-tax-states-no-growth/