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timvp
02-11-2013, 10:27 PM
This team is exactly that: a team. Most coaches coach teams; Pop has created a team. The players are unselfish enough to concentrate on their roles, no matter how big or how small. When the team needs to make an adjustment due to who is available, there's a seamless shift of roles that doesn't need to be explained. It just happens.

I don't know how this season is going to end but I'm going to enjoy every second of this ride.

All for one. Tonight, they won for all. Thank you, Spurs.

Spurs Brazil
02-11-2013, 10:29 PM
:tu

TDMVPDPOY
02-11-2013, 10:29 PM
lol celebrating a win....where was this against detroit a few days ago?

freetiago
02-11-2013, 10:29 PM
Won a game where all of their flaws were exposed
pretty impressive but also a bit of fools gold win
happy they got the win without the big 3 but the disadvantage at the rebounding...

Spursfanfromafar
02-11-2013, 10:30 PM
San Antonio Basketball - best in professional sports since 1997.

exstatic
02-11-2013, 10:30 PM
:danceclub

loveforthegame
02-11-2013, 10:31 PM
:tu

Brazil
02-11-2013, 10:32 PM
:tu

Mugen
02-11-2013, 10:33 PM
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-gBOoWjU3wDI/UFdS9Y-9_wI/AAAAAAAADCQ/q-psML1GNqU/s1600/slow-clap-gif.gif

SpursIndonesia
02-11-2013, 10:33 PM
This team is exactly that: a team. Most coaches coach teams; Pop has created a team. The players are unselfish enough to concentrate on their roles, no matter how big or how small. When the team needs to make an adjustment due to who is available, there's a seamless shift of roles that doesn't need to be explained. It just happens.

I don't know how this season is going to end but I'm going to enjoy every second of this ride.

All for one. Tonight, they won for all. Thank you, Spurs.

:tu

spursmartyr
02-11-2013, 10:33 PM
lol celebrating a win....where was this against detroit a few days ago?
CIA pop trying to quash the regular season winning streak by telling his guys to practice offense and play lax defense

EricB
02-11-2013, 10:34 PM
One of the most impressive wins in quite a while.

Paranoid Pop
02-11-2013, 10:34 PM
This team is exactly that: a team. Most coaches coach teams; Pop has created a team. The players are unselfish enough to concentrate on their roles, no matter how big or how small. When the team needs to make an adjustment due to who is available, there's a seamless shift of roles that doesn't need to be explained. It just happens.

I don't know how this season is going to end but I'm going to enjoy every second of this ride.

All for one. Tonight, they won for all. Thank you, Spurs.

Only takes three years of treating players like shit so that they get over themselves. Bet Cesar Millan could be a fine NBA coach.

DesignatedT
02-11-2013, 10:34 PM
:tu

DesignatedT
02-11-2013, 10:35 PM
Only takes three years of treating players like shit so that they get over themselves. Bet Cesar Millan could be fine NBA coach.

Yeah, haven't you heard? Pop is a real asshole off the court. Not like players love playing for him or anything..

shyne
02-11-2013, 10:35 PM
Yep I enjoy every win a little extra now.

hooperflash
02-11-2013, 10:35 PM
:huddle:

Jumi
02-11-2013, 10:35 PM
:tu

capek
02-11-2013, 10:35 PM
Feels so good. In some ways pretty unexpected, that they're able to play so well without the big three (or two of them for multiple games). Just goes to show that Pop was right to focus on perfecting the system instead of swinging for the fences with big trades. Dude is like the Platonic ideal, a philosopher-king for the muthafucking ages! :tu

crc21209
02-11-2013, 10:36 PM
It's just beautiful basketball to watch. I'm enjoying every second of this ride as well! :tu

ChumpDumper
02-11-2013, 10:36 PM
lol haters

manufan10
02-11-2013, 10:36 PM
:tu

Paranoid Pop
02-11-2013, 10:37 PM
Yeah, haven't you heard? Pop is a real asshole off the court. Not like players love playing for him or anything..

Ya TP talked about that.

Lol at any free agent worth anything even considering burrying their career under Pop.

Libri
02-11-2013, 10:38 PM
:tu

Spurs7794
02-11-2013, 10:38 PM
lol celebrating a win....where was this against detroit a few days ago?

So I know your posts are all useless but do you even enjoy watching anything spurs related unless it's a critical playoff win? Preferably with zero hero ball?

ChumpDumper
02-11-2013, 10:38 PM
Ya TP talked about that.

Lol at any free agent worth anything even considering burrying their career under Pop.:rollin

DesignatedT
02-11-2013, 10:40 PM
Ya TP talked about that.

Lol at any free agent worth anything even considering burrying their career under Pop.

Tony, Manu and Duncan could have all gone and played for other coaches brah. What free agent are you talking about?

EricB
02-11-2013, 10:40 PM
Ya TP talked about that.

Lol at any free agent worth anything even considering burrying their career under Pop.


Fabbs with the fail troll

Brunodf
02-11-2013, 10:40 PM
It's just beautiful basketball to watch. I'm enjoying every second of this ride as well! :tu
This

Manu-20
02-11-2013, 10:40 PM
Great win can't believe there still some idiots on this board calling this fools good exposed just cracks me up tbh knowing how emo some fans are.

Paranoid Pop
02-11-2013, 10:40 PM
Feels so good. In some ways pretty unexpected, that they're able to play so well without the big three (or two of them for multiple games). Just goes to show that Pop was right to focus on perfecting the system instead of swinging for the fences with big trades. Dude is like the Platonic ideal, a philosopher-king for the muthafucking ages! :tu

Man the guys over at Detroit must be incredible geniuses then if we're gonna draw hyperbolic conclusions from a single regular season win...

ChumpDumper
02-11-2013, 10:41 PM
Man the guys over at Detroit must be incredible geniuses then if we're gonna draw hyperbolic conclusions from a single regular season win...:rollin

HarlemHeat37
02-11-2013, 10:43 PM
:lol I know I shouldn't be surprised, but are there really people that have complaints about winning a game without the big 3, in addition to being outrebounded by 20?..

timvp
02-11-2013, 10:44 PM
lol celebrating a win....where was this against detroit a few days ago?


Won a game where all of their flaws were exposed
pretty impressive but also a bit of fools gold win
happy they got the win without the big 3 but the disadvantage at the rebounding...


Ya TP talked about that.

Lol at any free agent worth anything even considering burrying their career under Pop.

Was there a paint huffing competition I wasn't aware of? Mind-numbing, tbh.

LoneStarState'sPride
02-11-2013, 10:44 PM
That was a beautiful, thorough exhibition of basketball we just witnessed tonight. Made me so damn proud!

Libri
02-11-2013, 10:47 PM
Pop not his usual cantankerous self. He looked pretty upbeat during the interview. :)

Mugen
02-11-2013, 10:49 PM
Won a game where all of their flaws were exposed
pretty impressive but also a bit of fools gold win
happy they got the win without the big 3 but the disadvantage at the rebounding...

http://gifsforum.com/images/gif/not%20sure%20if%20serious/grand/alain_delon_gif.gif

capek
02-11-2013, 10:50 PM
Man the guys over at Detroit must be incredible geniuses then if we're gonna draw hyperbolic conclusions from a single regular season win...

Irony...unintended?

capek
02-11-2013, 10:52 PM
Was there a paint huffing competition I wasn't aware of? Mind-numbing, tbh.

Those dudes have trained all their life for that comp. You never had a chance tbh :yield

Samr.
02-11-2013, 10:53 PM
Anyone majoring in business, or who wants to be a manager of people or entrepreneur needs to take these Spurs as an example of how to build something lasting -- build it so that the pieces are all ultimately replaceable, build it so that your entire system doesn't crumble simply because one or two people or elements do so, build it so that the product you create is greater than the sum of the parts used to create it.

This individual Spurs team is great to watch, but this overall Spurs organization and "corporate culture" is what's truly impressive. And for that reason, it should be of no surprise to anyone that year after year the Spurs keep churning out winning team after winning team.

Go Spurs Go.

freetiago
02-11-2013, 10:55 PM
If chicago wasnt such a bad offensive team (currently 18th) and theyre that "high" because of the offensive rebounding then we would have gotten blown out
spurs had 15 rebounds in the 3rd and chicago had 15 offensive rebounds
cant rely on Tim Duncan alone to be that big of a difference maker on the rebounding side
pop also refused to go to Baynes even though we were getting killed
unless the token 3 seconds at the end of the first half to stop chicago from getting an offensive rebound on the free throw line counts as quality seconds

TDMVPDPOY
02-11-2013, 10:56 PM
heroes on the team and 3 TOSB holding back the BEASTS what his really capable of...

the sooner these clowns are off the team and KL is given the keys to see whether he can carry the team is the day we call for a celebration.....

KL at this point is probably better than paul george, he has a better decision making when it comes to shot selection instead of pulling up jumpers...

ChumpDumper
02-11-2013, 10:56 PM
If chicago wasnt such a bad offensive team (currently 18th) and theyre that "high" because of the offensive rebounding then we would have gotten blown out
spurs had 15 rebounds in the 3rd and chicago had 15 offensive rebounds
cant rely on Tim Duncan alone to be that big of a difference maker on the rebounding side
pop also refused to go to Baynes even though we were getting killed
unless the token 3 seconds at the end of the first half to stop chicago from getting an offensive rebound on the free throw line counts as quality seconds:lmao


heroes on the team and 3 TOSB holding back the BEASTS what his really capable of...

the sooner these clowns are off the team and KL is given the keys to see whether he can carry the team is the day we call for a celebration.....

KL at this point is probably better than paul george, he has a better decision making when it comes to shot selection instead of pulling up jumpers...:lmao

John B
02-11-2013, 10:56 PM
I thought for sure this was a lost on a B2B w/o the big 3. This game should show what KL could do given more touches and not just the occasional corner 3's. Kawhi could be the first option when they play smallball. Great win.

SenorSpur
02-11-2013, 10:57 PM
Take out 4 starters and yet the methodical style, precision execution and team basketball of the Spurs remains the same - despite the obvious talent dropoff. I love the balanced scoring, team defense and how there is always at least 1 player that usually "steps up" in these moments. Tonight it was Leonard. This was the same team-oriented performance that was on display, not only tonight, but also in that unusual nationally-televised road game versus the Heat, a couple of months ago, which the Spurs very nearly won. Speaking of which, I really wish the Spurs would've won that road game too - just to stick it in Stern's craw. It was humorous watching the Heat play desparate against the Spurs reserves, as you could tell they didn't want "egg on their face" for losing to the Spurs reserves,

timvp
02-11-2013, 10:58 PM
If chicago wasnt such a bad offensive team (currently 18th) and theyre that "high" because of the offensive rebounding then we would have gotten blown out
spurs had 15 rebounds in the 3rd and chicago had 15 offensive rebounds
cant rely on Tim Duncan alone to be that big of a difference maker on the rebounding side
pop also refused to go to Baynes even though we were getting killed
unless the token 3 seconds at the end of the first half to stop chicago from getting an offensive rebound on the free throw line counts as quality seconds

Wow, tbh.

DesignatedT
02-11-2013, 10:58 PM
heroes on the team and 3 TOSB holding back the BEASTS what his really capable of...

the sooner these clowns are off the team and KL is given the keys to see whether he can carry the team is the day we call for a celebration.....

KL at this point is probably better than paul george, he has a better decision making when it comes to shot selection instead of pulling up jumpers...


So let me get this straight..... Duncan, Manu and Tony are "clowns" and the day they retire we can all celebrate because Leonard is "probably" better than Paul George?

SpursRock20
02-11-2013, 10:58 PM
Games like tonight show me that the Spurs are even better than they were last year. This game could have been chalked up as a loss, but the playing time the second and third units have had together is certainly paying dividends and allows the Spurs to steal a win in a tough environment.


Some random tidbits from tonight:

Although De Colo was a bit rusty, it's great to see that he ostensibly knows exactly where Splitter is at all times and feeds him the ball at the most opportune moments. Seeing as how Parker is now working well with Splitter out of necessity, it is very nice to see another point guard on the roster working well with Master Splitter.

It was also nice to see Summer League Leonard return. His confidence seems to balloon whenever Pop shortens his leash. As we all should know by now, Kawhi has the chance of being something special. He locked down Deng (4-13 on FG) and really looked comfortable with his shot on the offensive end. His dribble pull-up is something that he has seemed to work on, and might become a real asset in the playoffs for the Spurs. I also don't find myself cringing as much on his fast breaks as I used to. Although he is still attacking with his standard one-handed statue of liberty dunk, he is choosing to attack the paint when (and only when) there is no one ready to take a charge. He has had a tendency to get charging calls in the past, but Leonard has certainly improved this part of his game.

Neal looked 1000x more comfortable than I have seen from him in the last month. Although he had a dry spell in the second half, he took his shots in stride and seemed to let his offense come to him tonight. I've said it before, Gary Neal is the best pure shooter on this team. And when he picks his spots and does not force anything, he becomes the most valuable scorer off of the bench. His success tonight could be attributed to the fact that he did not do a majority of the handling in the half court sets :tu.

HarlemHeat37
02-11-2013, 11:00 PM
Anyone majoring in business, or who wants to be a manager of people or entrepreneur needs to take these Spurs as an example of how to build something lasting -- build it so that the pieces are all ultimately replaceable, build it so that your entire system doesn't crumble simply because one or two people or elements do so, build it so that the product you create is greater than the sum of the parts used to create it.

This individual Spurs team is great to watch, but this overall Spurs organization and "corporate culture" is what's truly impressive. And for that reason, it should be of no surprise to anyone that year after year the Spurs keep churning out winning team after winning team.

Go Spurs Go.

If Pop stuck around, they could easily build a perennially successful regular season team, similar to the Nuggets or Pacers, but I would rather tank for a franchise player for the 3rd time, tbh:lol..

Floyd Pacquiao
02-11-2013, 11:01 PM
beautiful system basketball with unselfish players that care about the team tbh I love it

bigfan
02-11-2013, 11:03 PM
Take a look at Splitters stats for tonight. Nice.

TDMVPDPOY
02-11-2013, 11:03 PM
So let me get this straight..... Duncan, Manu and Tony are "clowns" and the day they retire we can all celebrate because Leonard is "probably" better than Paul George?

do you think paul george is not where he is today without the piece of shit granger always injured, which allowed him more touches?

that could apply to anyone on the spurs, but KL is a 2 way player who has a wider skillset being force to play spot up shooter only?

bayareaspursfan
02-11-2013, 11:04 PM
Players win championships not coaches. We will always be #1 in the west, but we will never get to the finals unfortunately because we don't have superstars. Thats the sad reality..

spurraider21
02-11-2013, 11:05 PM
Quit stalling timvp. We want quick grades.

I kid :lol

this team is really easy to be a fan of. I haven really felt this good since the Miami loss.

Mugen
02-11-2013, 11:06 PM
Players win championships not coaches. We will always be #1 in the west, but we will never get to the finals unfortunately because we don't have superstars. Thats the sad reality..

You picked a hell of a game to enlighten us with this revelation tbh.

SpursRock20
02-11-2013, 11:07 PM
Players win championships not coaches. We will always be #1 in the west, but we will never get to the finals unfortunately because we don't have superstars. Thats the sad reality..

I understand that Ginobili has regressed but Parker and Duncan are easily in top 5 for their respective positions in the NBA. If by superstars you mean Kevin Durant and Lebron James, then no, we don't have superstars.

HI-FI
02-11-2013, 11:08 PM
Anyone majoring in business, or who wants to be a manager of people or entrepreneur needs to take these Spurs as an example of how to build something lasting -- build it so that the pieces are all ultimately replaceable, build it so that your entire system doesn't crumble simply because one or two people or elements do so, build it so that the product you create is greater than the sum of the parts used to create it.

This individual Spurs team is great to watch, but this overall Spurs organization and "corporate culture" is what's truly impressive. And for that reason, it should be of no surprise to anyone that year after year the Spurs keep churning out winning team after winning team.

Go Spurs Go.
this. it's why I wasn't sweating this game beforehand. I have enough confidence in our system, in our ability to find the right guys and develop them, that I know we'll always be giving teams problems. Tonight was truly exceptional though, it shows how well this group of pieces go together and also that Kawhi could be an all star soon.

HeroSquad
02-11-2013, 11:10 PM
do you think paul george is not where he is today without the piece of shit granger always injured, which allowed him more touches?

that could apply to anyone on the spurs, but KL is a 2 way player who has a wider skillset being force to play spot up shooter only?

Right, because comparing Danny Granger to Tony, Tim, and Manu is something a sane, logical person with the bare minimum of basketball knowledge would do.

ginobilized
02-11-2013, 11:12 PM
What a quality win.
No way you could expect a better performance from the team the Spurs had on the floor tonight.
It was nice to see Kawhi, Leonard and Green step offensively and the role players really did their jobs.
The system and the selflessness really stand out in this current NBA climate of egos, drama and dysfunction.

Yes, I'm proud to be a Spurs fan!

Ice009
02-11-2013, 11:12 PM
Anyone majoring in business, or who wants to be a manager of people or entrepreneur needs to take these Spurs as an example of how to build something lasting -- build it so that the pieces are all ultimately replaceable, build it so that your entire system doesn't crumble simply because one or two people or elements do so, build it so that the product you create is greater than the sum of the parts used to create it.

This individual Spurs team is great to watch, but this overall Spurs organization and "corporate culture" is what's truly impressive. And for that reason, it should be of no surprise to anyone that year after year the Spurs keep churning out winning team after winning team.

Go Spurs Go.

Umm sure the Spurs won tonight, GREAT win, but have you ever heard of Tim Duncan, Tony Parker, Manu? You can't just plug anyone in and keep winning at the same clip. The system is good, but the system alone won't keep any group of players at the top.

HeroSquad
02-11-2013, 11:17 PM
Jesus, some of you guys don't seem to remember that we were pretty close to reaching the NBA Finals; it's not like OKC categorically whooped our butts. Let's be real, is there any one person we could realistically acquire at this point that would for sure improve our chances at winning a title? This woe-is-us attitude every time we fail to come out on top on every stat line even when we win by 15+ is just stupid. We beat a good team...with our bench. Enjoy it.

TDMVPDPOY
02-11-2013, 11:20 PM
Right, because comparing Danny Granger to Tony, Tim, and Manu is something a sane, logical person with the bare minimum of basketball knowledge would do.

did i compared granger to the 3 tosb? i was talkin about different environment scenarios...granger was first option on the pacers and now just a tosb behind paul, he made the most of it when granger was out injured

to say kl cant improve if the 3 tosb wasnt in his way is bullshit

vander
02-11-2013, 11:23 PM
I love this team too, there's nothing else like the Spurs in all of sports

freetiago
02-11-2013, 11:24 PM
Spurs frontcourt choices were somewhat limited tonight but there was really no reason to stay small and keep going with bonner
if there was ever a game to let Baynes get any minutes it was tonight
Bulls have been the best team in the nba for the past 3 years at consistently defending the 3 point line
Bonner got one shot off from the 3 but had his foot on the line
the rest of the time he got ran off and put up terrible hook attempts or lost his dribble and had to be bailed out after almost losing the ball
0 rebounds in about 20 minutes

and OKC found the one thing to do to stop the spurs offense which was switch the pick and roll
and the bigger defender on parker
it would be interesting to see how the spurs were defended if noah wasnt playing heavy minutes on a bad foot
last years game vs chicago made me believe they were the best defensive team in the nba at the time
they were the only team who contested about every shot including Tims midrange shots

SpursRock20
02-11-2013, 11:25 PM
did i compared granger to the 3 tosb? i was talkin about different environment scenarios...granger was first option on the pacers and now just a tosb behind paul, he made the most of it when granger was out injured

to say kl cant improve if the 3 tosb wasnt in his way is bullshit

Are you trolling or just stupid?

biskvito
02-11-2013, 11:26 PM
Fkn scrub heroball

- tdmvpdpoy

Darius Bieber
02-11-2013, 11:27 PM
Solid win for sure. :toast
Rebounding may be a bit of an issue though.

benefactor
02-11-2013, 11:27 PM
Great fucking god some of you drooling, shit finger painting retards.

Best win of the year.

HeroSquad
02-11-2013, 11:27 PM
did i compared granger to the 3 tosb? i was talkin about different environment scenarios...granger was first option on the pacers and now just a tosb behind paul, he made the most of it when granger was out injured

to say kl cant improve if the 3 tosb wasnt in his way is bullshit

That argument just doesn't translate across teams. Kawhi is successful because he isn't asked to do too much. Sure, you can give him some extra touches to capitalize on his skills, but go beyond a certain amount and you jeopardize team chemistry. Same reason Manu comes off the bench and doesn't start. Dude could put up 25 a game easily, but he doesn't for the sake of Pop's system.

Budkin
02-11-2013, 11:28 PM
It's so great being a Spurs fan... we are truly blessed.

TampaDude
02-11-2013, 11:30 PM
The Spurs execute like no other team in the NBA. They will come out of the West. Book it!

Mr.Bottomtooth
02-11-2013, 11:30 PM
Ya TP talked about that.

Lol at any free agent worth anything even considering burrying their career under Pop.

http://s3.amazonaws.com/files.posterous.com/temp-2010-12-31/jGnJpAGJjbqHkBjnhEvhufIkJfDErlncuHjrDHGHIBrfJeiBxx HEgJEivxnB/hi-hater-bye-hater-29346-1293744113-1.jpg.scaled1000.jpg?AWSAccessKeyId=AKIAJFZAE65UYR T34AOQ&Expires=1360643711&Signature=30604S84SC8rz94bSZFiEywG5yE%3D

LoneStarState'sPride
02-11-2013, 11:31 PM
It's so great being a Spurs fan... we are truly blessed.

This. Even if (gasp) we don't win a title this year, this is a beautiful brand of basketball we are privileged to watch on a nightly basis regardless of personnel.

DesignatedT
02-11-2013, 11:34 PM
did i compared granger to the 3 tosb? i was talkin about different environment scenarios...granger was first option on the pacers and now just a tosb behind paul, he made the most of it when granger was out injured

to say kl cant improve if the 3 tosb wasnt in his way is bullshit

but the TOSBs aint goin anywhere...

http://i.minus.com/iUoBC4huXaQNi.gif

HI-FI
02-11-2013, 11:35 PM
i'm happy i was able to make it home to watch the second half. I've been waiting for a game like this from Kawhi for awhile, just an amazing breakthrough performance, plus seeing how the whole team adapted and kept on rolling was amazing to watch. Probably my favorite game of the season, with the Miami game no. 2 and the opening win over OKC as 3. gotta love the culture and competitiveness of this team.

LarryDavid
02-11-2013, 11:36 PM
:cry:cry:cry:cry Such a classy thread for such a classy team :cry:cry:cry:cry

TheSkeptic
02-11-2013, 11:37 PM
Spurs frontcourt choices were somewhat limited tonight but there was really no reason to stay small and keep going with bonner
if there was ever a game to let Baynes get any minutes it was tonight
Bulls have been the best team in the nba for the past 3 years at consistently defending the 3 point line
Bonner got one shot off from the 3 but had his foot on the line
the rest of the time he got ran off and put up terrible hook attempts or lost his dribble and had to be bailed out after almost losing the ball
0 rebounds in about 20 minutes

and OKC found the one thing to do to stop the spurs offense which was switch the pick and roll
and the bigger defender on parker
it would be interesting to see how the spurs were defended if noah wasnt playing heavy minutes on a bad foot
last years game vs chicago made me believe they were the best defensive team in the nba at the time
they were the only team who contested about every shot including Tims midrange shots

You know, I really like what I've seen from Baynes but after watching him play against...not the Bobcats...my initial thoughts seem to be getting confirmed in that while Baynes can be a good big for us, he's not really ready for regular minutes against teams like the Bulls.

That said, he's still taller than Blair/Bonner so he probably should be getting more minutes with TD out. For this season though I don't think he'll be able to contribute a whole lot.


That argument just doesn't translate across teams. Kawhi is successful because he isn't asked to do too much. Sure, you can give him some extra touches to capitalize on his skills, but go beyond a certain amount and you jeopardize team chemistry. Same reason Manu comes off the bench and doesn't start. Dude could put up 25 a game easily, but he doesn't for the sake of Pop's system.

This is pretty much my take on the situation. I'd totally be fine with giving Kawhi extra touches and I do think he could be an all-star one day, but there's definitely a point of diminishing returns here. I'm actually pretty happy with how Pop has been managing him. I think the Spurs should be getting Kawhi slightly different touches though. Less spot-up shooting and more mixing it up like he did tonight even if he doesn't get as many FGA with the Big 3 back.

Blake
02-11-2013, 11:38 PM
One of the most delicious regular season wins in quite some time.

DesignatedT
02-11-2013, 11:39 PM
There's still plenty of games left. Let Baynes get some work in with the coaches in the gym and get more familiar with his surroundings. He'll get a chance to play after the ASB.

timvp
02-11-2013, 11:41 PM
Can someone please tell me why Bonner gets more minutes than Baynes?
Mel_13 with ultimate goods. Peeps are so distraught due to their obsession of what is behind the door that they find ways to whine about in one of the most improbable wins of the Duncan era. Amazing.

I like Baynes as a prospect but let's have some shred of sense here. The Spurs won this game due to precision and chemistry. Baynes doesn't have either of those traits right now. It's not his fault but he just doesn't.

TheSkeptic
02-11-2013, 11:42 PM
There's still plenty of games left. Let Baynes get some work in with the coaches in the gym and get more familiar with his surroundings. He'll get a chance to play after the ASB.

Still don't think he'll play much in the playoffs. Hopefully he sees more floor time during the regular season though.

silverblackfan
02-11-2013, 11:44 PM
Timely thread. I was thinking the same thing. I love how this team plays, acts, and succeeds by determination and discipline. They all seem to love playing with the team and the fans can feel it.
Its always great to be a Spurs fan, but this season is feeling pretty special.

and Pop would probably say, "Who cares? Its one game."

FromWayDowntown
02-11-2013, 11:45 PM
This forum never ceases to amaze me.

Great win tonight for the Spurs, regardless of what it might say about the way their season will ultimately end. Once again, guys who aren't normally asked to carry the load (likely, because if they were asked to do that for an extended period of time, teams would fairly quickly find ways to limit them) step up on the road against a quality team and play well for 48 minutes. For some of these guys, the opportunity to have these sorts of successes can only be a good thing going forward. But fortunately, unlike a lot of other NBA environments, the Spurs role players understand their roles and go back to performing them as soon as they're asked to. It's really remarkable to watch.

I've started to wonder if this might not be the year that R.C. Buford finally gets his long overdue Executive of the Year award. There aren't necessarily any overwhelming candidates elsewhere; it's not a year where some team has really come out of nowhere to compete at the top of the league. Maybe nights like this one go some distance towards convincing those who vote on that award that the success of a franchise isn't necessarily measured by the number of flashy moves that it makes in a given year to make a meteoric rise up the standings, but can sometimes be seen in the ability to make the sorts of small tweaks to find players who fit your system and culture. This is now at least the third time in the last decade and a half that Buford/Popovich have substantially retooled around the Big 3 and taken this club back among the elite of the elite. They did it after the 2001 West Finals; they did it after the 2003 title; and now they've done it after the 2009-11 lull -- and they've done that without the crutch of acquiring a superstar to replenish the roster. The brilliance of that is apparent in the standings, but games like the Miami and Chicago games show that it's not just about having 3 Hall of Famers in your stable.

Great post, timvp.

Paranoid Pop
02-11-2013, 11:52 PM
Mel_13 (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=6168) with ultimate goods. Peeps are so distraught due to their obsession of what is behind the door that they find ways to whine about in one of the most improbable wins of the Duncan era. Amazing.

I like Baynes as a prospect but let's have some shred of sense here. The Spurs won this game due to precision and chemistry. Baynes doesn't have either of those traits right now. It's not his fault but he just doesn't.

So result oriented....

Had they lost it would have been because of the poor rebounding like vs Detroit, it works both ways. The rebounding has been dogshit lately and Pop still plays the turd tower frontline or goes micro every game.

Also Thibs is one of the worst coaches at managing minutes, his team is most likely exhausted tbh. It's an awesome win for the confidence of players like KY but the content is nothing to write home about aside from KY making things happen in iso situations.

ChumpDumper
02-11-2013, 11:54 PM
The Energizer bunny of irrational haters.

TheSkeptic
02-11-2013, 11:56 PM
So result oriented....

Had they lost it would have been because of the poor rebounding like vs Detroit, it works both ways. The rebounding has been dogshit lately and Pop still plays the turd tower frontline or goes micro every game.

Also Thibs is one of the worst coaches at managing minutes, his team is most likely exhausted tbh. It's an awesome win for the confidence of players like KY but the content is nothing to write home about aside from KY making things happen in iso situations.

Weren't you bolded? Like before?

freetiago
02-11-2013, 11:57 PM
the +- king had the worst +- on the team
the precision and chemistry was with his ass on the bench
pop got the memo pretty quick with blair but blair would have actually been better then bonner out there
spurs have a pretty good record with developing prospects and like to throw them out in the fire
and like i said it couldnt have been a better moment to at least give the guy some sort of attempt
Duncan out and the sometimes backup 4 Jackson also out
spurs outrebounded almost 3-1 (41-15) by the third quarter and had 5 rebounds total after the first quarter

this win wasnt as improbable as you think
Manu vs 04 Lakers would be an improbable almost win
Chicago has like a .33% win ratio vs western teams and theyre better on the road then at home
their 2 worst loses in probably the Thibs era came vs 2 teams like the Spurs in the Nuggets and Houston
fast paced teams who can shoot the 3 have blown them out at home

DPG21920
02-11-2013, 11:57 PM
So result oriented....

Had they lost it would have been because of the poor rebounding like vs Detroit, it works both ways. The rebounding has been dogshit lately and Pop still plays the turd tower frontline or goes micro every game.

Also Thibs is one of the worst coaches at managing minutes, his team is most likely exhausted tbh. It's an awesome win for the confidence of players like KY but the content is nothing to write home about aside from KY making things happen in iso situations.

I agree somewhat with the "results oriented" comment (if I understand what I think you mean) but this last line is just ludicrous speed.

ChumpDumper
02-11-2013, 11:59 PM
:lol it keeps getting better!

Paranoid Pop
02-12-2013, 12:00 AM
Weren't you bolded? Like before?

No I don't think so :huh, surprising given the number of quality takes I come up with, agree with you on that :huh.

benefactor
02-12-2013, 12:02 AM
So result oriented....

Had they lost it would have been because of the poor rebounding like vs Detroit, it works both ways. The rebounding has been dogshit lately and Pop still plays the turd tower frontline or goes micro every game.

Also Thibs is one of the worst coaches at managing minutes, his team is most likely exhausted tbh. It's an awesome win for the confidence of players like KY but the content is nothing to write home about aside from KY making things happen in iso situations.
There are times I feel like I should tell you to swallow a shotgun shell but you probably have family that loves you...and perhaps you are actually smart in some other areas.

I don't know, maybe not.

Paranoid Pop
02-12-2013, 12:02 AM
I agree somewhat with the "results oriented" comment (if I understand what I think you mean) but this last line is just ludicrous speed.

Well, it was pretty amazing to watch I agree.

TheSkeptic
02-12-2013, 12:04 AM
No I don't think so :huh, surprising given the number of quality takes I come up with, agree with you on that :huh.

Hm. Maybe it's your former avy that made me think you were bold. :lol

Embedded
02-12-2013, 12:06 AM
Wow I didn't realize how good the Spurs' 'system' actually is until I saw this win. We were getting KILLED on the boards, but we didn't let it destroy our determination. You can think the near-win in Miami for this. Yes, timvp, I love this team too, probably because they seem so vulnerable at at times, but they find a way. Amazing, this was a very impressive win!!! LOL @ haters here, I guess that's to be expected.

DMC
02-12-2013, 12:06 AM
Jesus, some of you guys don't seem to remember that we were pretty close to reaching the NBA Finals; it's not like OKC categorically whooped our butts. Let's be real, is there any one person we could realistically acquire at this point that would for sure improve our chances at winning a title? This woe-is-us attitude every time we fail to come out on top on every stat line even when we win by 15+ is just stupid. We beat a good team...with our bench. Enjoy it.

A backdoor sweep is an ass kicking. You're up 2-0 and you lose 4 straight. You got your ass kicked.

exstatic
02-12-2013, 12:06 AM
Are you trolling or just stupid?

B

DMC
02-12-2013, 12:10 AM
Great win though. Better than that last second loss at Miami. How much are the Spurs going to be fined for actually winning with their bench players, 500K?

Spurminator
02-12-2013, 12:12 AM
There are still haters?

I admit, I've popped into a game thread maybe three times this year, which is Ground Zero for irrationally hyperbolic Spurs angst, but I'm having a little trouble figuring out what anyone could possibly knit-pick right now.

LoneStarState'sPride
02-12-2013, 12:13 AM
There are still haters?

I admit, I've popped into a game thread maybe three times this year, which is Ground Zero for irrationally hyperbolic Spurs angst, but I'm having a little trouble figuring out what anyone could possibly knit-pick right now.

As long as ST exists, nits will be picked. Copious amounts of nits :lol

AussieFanKurt
02-12-2013, 12:15 AM
unexpected but I'll take it

KaiRMD1
02-12-2013, 12:16 AM
It's amazing that a couple years ago, the biggest worry was if Duncan was out, could the Spurs win. Now, they are putting a hundred points without all three of them on a pretty consistent basis. Good win against a decent Bulls team without Rose

Dex
02-12-2013, 12:16 AM
Great fucking god some of you drooling, shit finger painting retards.

Best win of the year.

:lmao

timvp
02-12-2013, 12:21 AM
So result oriented....Who is result oriented? I've been laughing at the Baynes whiners since before Day 1. Spurs fans are always obsessed with the player who isn't playing. From Pops Mensah-Bonsu to James White to Malik Harison to Viktor Sanikidze to Robertas Javtokas to Jackie Butler to Derrick Dial and the list goes on and on.

Spur|n|Austin
02-12-2013, 12:22 AM
The Energizer bunny of irrational haters.

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lnvde1uNQz1qkfpqto1_500.jpg


There are still haters?


I admit, I've popped into a game thread maybe three times this year, which is Ground Zero for irrationally hyperbolic Spurs angst, but I'm having a little trouble figuring out what anyone could possibly knit-pick right now.

Yes. Yes there are; it's baffling really. Sometimes I think they type just to get a rise, and it works.

BlackSilver
02-12-2013, 12:25 AM
When the team needs to make an adjustment due to who is available, there's a seamless shift of roles that doesn't need to be explained. It just happens.

:toast Resistance is futile.

SA210
02-12-2013, 12:26 AM
So glad Pop realized he was wrong the past so many years and went back to defense, and now plays Tiago. :tu

Paranoid Pop
02-12-2013, 12:31 AM
Who is result oriented? I've been laughing at the Baynes whiners since before Day 1. Spurs fans are always obsessed with the player who isn't playing. From Pops Mensah-Bonsu to James White to Malik Harison to Viktor Sanikidze to Robertas Javtokas to Jackie Butler to Derrick Dial and the list goes on and on.

So the rebounding is fine?

I don't care about Baynes in particular tbh, my favorite player on the team is Boris but I'm open to trades involving him, I even came up with some myself, I just want the team to be in position to win and I don't see it as it stands.

Also Baynes doesn't have to get acclimated to anything, he can hit his FT and he can rebound, his role won't be to do much else, sure he'd be nice if he knew where to be on O and was more careful with the ball but still, Pop made an ultra conservative call for short term gain on that one imo. That said I would love nothing more than to be proven wrong by Bonbon, Pop and Blair...

maverick1948
02-12-2013, 12:33 AM
Won a game where all of their flaws were exposed
pretty impressive but also a bit of fools gold win
happy they got the win without the big 3 but the disadvantage at the rebounding...

fool's gold win??? Are you serious?? None of the big 3 on the court and they won the game. Stats dont win games. Rebounds dont win games. Assists, turnovers nor fouls win games. They are just numbers. Scores win games. We won because our team made baskets at a rate of over 50% while stopping the Bulls. The TEAM played hard. Flaws?? Yes we got beat on the boards, because of not having Duncan on the court for 30 mins. Nothing fool's gold about hard play and desire to win. Kawhi, Danny, Tiago, Diaw and DeColo played as our starters and held the Bulls in check. Bonner, Gary, Patty, DaJuan all contributed to the win. Every one of them played their asses off and got a hard played win. Give the team credit when it is due.

ChumpDumper
02-12-2013, 12:34 AM
Baynes doesn't have to get acclimated to anything:rollin

HeroSquad
02-12-2013, 12:37 AM
A backdoor sweep is an ass kicking. You're up 2-0 and you lose 4 straight. You got your ass kicked.

Except for Game 3, every one of those games was competitive. It's not like we were completely overwhelmed. I still think luck had more to do with losing that series than OKC's sheer talent. Just my opinion though.

Spur|n|Austin
02-12-2013, 12:40 AM
So the rebounding is fine?

I don't care about Baynes in particular tbh, my favorite player on the team is Boris but I'm open to trades involving him, I even came up with some myself, I just want the team to be in position to win and I don't see it as it stands.

Also Baynes doesn't have to get acclimated to anything, he can hit his FT and he can rebound, his role won't be to do much else, sure he'd be nice if he knew where to be on O and was more careful with the ball but still, Pop made an ultra conservative call for short term gain on that one imo. That said I would love nothing more than to be proven wrong by Bonbon, Pop and Blair...

Your favorite player is Boris? Uhh that's cool man...

capek
02-12-2013, 12:40 AM
Hm. Maybe it's your former avy that made me think you were bold. :lol

It is definitely his former avy that made you think that. :lol

timvp
02-12-2013, 12:51 AM
So the rebounding is fine?You're seriously going to get hung up on rebounding when the Spurs just beat a playoff team on the road on the second night of a back-to-back without Tony Parker, Tim Duncan, Manu Ginobili and Stephen Jackson? I would say get some perspective but, damn, that wouldn't even begin to solve the problem.

Hopefully you're trolling.

mathbzh
02-12-2013, 12:56 AM
So proud of this team:toast

Drachen
02-12-2013, 12:57 AM
Can't say we get no respect anymore. I was just driving home from work listening to the BBC world service broadcast on NPR. They said " the San Antonio spurs beat the Chicago bulls tonight despite not having their there superstars Tony Parker tim Duncan and manu ginabeelee." I have never heard a spurs score on NPR

Spur|n|Austin
02-12-2013, 12:58 AM
Can't say we get no respect anymore. I was just driving home from work listening to the BBC world service broadcast on NPR. They said " the San Antonio spurs beat the Chicago bulls tonight despite not having their there superstars Tony Parker tim Duncan and manu ginabeelee." I have never heard a spurs score on NPR

:lol yeah that would have been a first for me too.

polandprzem
02-12-2013, 01:11 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcATvu5f9vE

PingPong
02-12-2013, 01:58 AM
Weren't you bolded? Like before?

It answers your question.




Also Baynes doesn't have to get acclimated to anything, he can hit his FT and he can rebound...

Spursfanfromafar
02-12-2013, 02:20 AM
I've started to wonder if this might not be the year that R.C. Buford finally gets his long overdue Executive of the Year award. There aren't necessarily any overwhelming candidates elsewhere; it's not a year where some team has really come out of nowhere to compete at the top of the league. Maybe nights like this one go some distance towards convincing those who vote on that award that the success of a franchise isn't necessarily measured by the number of flashy moves that it makes in a given year to make a meteoric rise up the standings, but can sometimes be seen in the ability to make the sorts of small tweaks to find players who fit your system and culture. This is now at least the third time in the last decade and a half that Buford/Popovich have substantially retooled around the Big 3 and taken this club back among the elite of the elite. They did it after the 2001 West Finals; they did it after the 2003 title; and now they've done it after the 2009-11 lull -- and they've done that without the crutch of acquiring a superstar to replenish the roster. The brilliance of that is apparent in the standings, but games like the Miami and Chicago games show that it's not just about having 3 Hall of Famers in your stable.

Great post, timvp.

I have been following the NBA seriously only since the early-2000s.. And this is one question that boggles me. How the hell has RC Buford never won the executive of the year award? I mean, buffoons like Bryan Colangelo who has consistently sucked as an executive for the Raptors have won it.

I reckon it is because the award doesn't really make sense. They should have a tri-yearly award, I suppose. Because Trades, Drafts and in-season moves generally have a larger gestation period, I suppose. Folks like Colangelo, Petrie etc will never win an award if thats the case and RCB will be a regular winner.

Sean Cagney
02-12-2013, 02:30 AM
:lol I know I shouldn't be surprised, but are there really people that have complaints about winning a game without the big 3, in addition to being outrebounded by 20?..

Yeah of course, Spurs fans in here are some of the most emo nuts at times it seems.

DrSteffo
02-12-2013, 02:41 AM
:clap:clap:clap to the TEAM

Bruno
02-12-2013, 07:43 AM
I love them too.

Great fucking win. :tu

Horse
02-12-2013, 08:42 AM
I bet some of you would complain if they won the championship. Big 3 and Jack out against a good bulls team on the road we win easy, you still whine.

jjktkk
02-12-2013, 08:55 AM
So glad Pop realized he was wrong the past so many years and went back to defense, and now plays Tiago. :tu

You should post more.

urunobili
02-12-2013, 08:55 AM
Couldn't be more proud of them and more ashamed of myself as it was the first match i didn't see this season taking for granted that they'd lose without first team NBA TP :depressed

romain.star
02-12-2013, 08:59 AM
Couldn't be more proud of them and more ashamed of myself as it was the first match i didn't see this season taking for granted that they'd lose without first team NBA TP :depressed

Don't be ashamed of yourself dude, without the big 3 (and Jackson), on a back to back game in Chicago, the Spurs would lose 8 times out of ten

jjktkk
02-12-2013, 09:07 AM
Also Baynes doesn't have to get acclimated to anything, he can hit his FT and he can rebound, his role won't be to do much else,

This the NBA, not you ,TDMVPDPOY. and tjastal playing 21 behind the shed.

Seventyniner
02-12-2013, 09:19 AM
I've started to wonder if this might not be the year that R.C. Buford finally gets his long overdue Executive of the Year award. There aren't necessarily any overwhelming candidates elsewhere; it's not a year where some team has really come out of nowhere to compete at the top of the league.

I agree that there are no trendy picks this year. However, it would be kind of strange to give that award to RC when the Spurs basically stood pat from last year. By strange I don't mean that RC doesn't deserve it, I just mean that it wouldn't jive with previous winners. Sure, doing nothing is sometimes better than making a change for change's sake, but judging by past recipients of the award, making moderate to significant changes and having a big one-year turnaround is what gets the hardware.

SA210
02-12-2013, 10:05 AM
You should post more.


Don't be angry that we were right and you were wrong lol

jjktkk
02-12-2013, 10:53 AM
Don't be angry that we were right and you were wrong lol

Got to question who your "we" is tbh.

http://i1292.photobucket.com/albums/b571/jjktkk/bth_ThreeStooges_zps9e189957.jpg?t=1360683652

maurolv
02-12-2013, 12:38 PM
This team is exactly that: a team. Most coaches coach teams; Pop has created a team. The players are unselfish enough to concentrate on their roles, no matter how big or how small. When the team needs to make an adjustment due to who is available, there's a seamless shift of roles that doesn't need to be explained. It just happens.

I don't know how this season is going to end but I'm going to enjoy every second of this ride.

All for one. Tonight, they won for all. Thank you, Spurs.


I always compare the Spurs to Barcelona (for those of you who also enjoy soccer). They do have stars, but they put the team before personal gain...they're all humble and unselfish. I've been in Miami for almost 6 years now and I know I could never become a Heat fan.

PUPPETMASTER
02-12-2013, 12:49 PM
:tu

pad300
02-12-2013, 01:05 PM
I always compare the Spurs to Barcelona (for those of you who also enjoy soccer). They do have stars, but they put the team before personal gain...they're all humble and unselfish. I've been in Miami for almost 6 years now and I know I could never become a Heat fan.

Flattering, but a terrible comparison. The current version of Barca is absolutely the best team on the planet, but that is only because they have 3 regular FIFA Ballon D'Or candidates (Messi, Iniesta, Xavi) whereas every other team only has one. The heat is the closest NBA comparison (Lebron, Wade, Bosh), but that still isn't really close - you'd have to have a trio of MVP candidates like Durant, Lebron, Parker. Thankfully, the salary cap system at least tries to keep it interesting.

TJastal
02-12-2013, 01:26 PM
I thought Pop addressed a key issue in this game that needed to be done that frankly didn't get done in the pistons loss, but is also still running afoul in another area. It's a quality win and all, but I'm going to try to stay somewhat on an even keel and refrain from frothing at the mouth like many have been in this thread.

The positive: Finally playing Leonard more than 25 minutes and letting him open up his game more will pay dividends later and sorely needed to be done for this team to take the next step. The big 3 cannot do it all every single night, there will be those nights that somebody else has to step up. Leonard as that 4th option makes the most sense, along with Splitter (who has also started to expand his game this year).

The negative: The rebounding discrepancy is a concern, no matter how it's sliced. I thought Pop called up Baynes from across the world to help fill this void, yet the guy sits and rides pine. It's puzzling to say the least that there seemed to be a sense of urgency in this matter just a few scant weeks ago. Pop even had him rushed down to the minor leagues for "conditioning" as if he was expecting him to log significant minutes.

superbigtime
02-12-2013, 02:03 PM
Awesome win.

maurolv
02-12-2013, 02:14 PM
Flattering, but a terrible comparison. The current version of Barca is absolutely the best team on the planet, but that is only because they have 3 regular FIFA Ballon D'Or candidates (Messi, Iniesta, Xavi) whereas every other team only has one. The heat is the closest NBA comparison (Lebron, Wade, Bosh), but that still isn't really close - you'd have to have a trio of MVP candidates like Durant, Lebron, Parker. Thankfully, the salary cap system at least tries to keep it interesting.

No. Look at Real Madrid players nominated for the Fifa b|Ballon d'or 2012...

Sergio Agüero (Argentina), Xabi Alonso (Spain),Mario Balotelli (Italy), Karim Benzema (France), Gianluigi Buffon (Italy), Sergio Busquets (Spain), Iker Casillas (Spain), Cristiano Ronaldo (Portugal), Didier Drogba (Côte d’Ivoire), Radamel Falcao (Colombia), Zlatan Ibrahimović (Sweden), Andrés Iniesta (Spain), Lionel Messi (Argentina), Manuel Neuer (Germany), Neymar (Brazil), Mesut Özil (Germany), Gerard Piqué (Spain), Andrea Pirlo (Italy),
Sergio Ramos (Spain), Wayne Rooney (England), Yaya Touré (Côte d’Ivoire), Robin van Persie (Netherlands), Xavi (Spain).

Source (http://www.fifa.com/ballondor/media/newsid=1798663/index.html).

Yet Real Madrid doesn't function well as a team, it isn't humble, and their players are constantly putting personal gain on top of the team. The complete opposite to San Antonio Spurs...which is why I love this team.

pad300
02-12-2013, 02:38 PM
No. Look at Real Madrid players nominated for the Fifa b|Ballon d'or 2012...

Sergio Agüero (Argentina), Xabi Alonso (Spain),Mario Balotelli (Italy), Karim Benzema (France), Gianluigi Buffon (Italy), Sergio Busquets (Spain), Iker Casillas (Spain), Cristiano Ronaldo (Portugal), Didier Drogba (Côte d’Ivoire), Radamel Falcao (Colombia), Zlatan Ibrahimović (Sweden), Andrés Iniesta (Spain), Lionel Messi (Argentina), Manuel Neuer (Germany), Neymar (Brazil), Mesut Özil (Germany), Gerard Piqué (Spain), Andrea Pirlo (Italy),
Sergio Ramos (Spain), Wayne Rooney (England), Yaya Touré (Côte d’Ivoire), Robin van Persie (Netherlands), Xavi (Spain).

Source (http://www.fifa.com/ballondor/media/newsid=1798663/index.html).

Yet Real Madrid doesn't function well as a team, it isn't humble, and their players are constantly putting personal gain on top of the team. The complete opposite to San Antonio Spurs...which is why I love this team.

Nope, Barca has 3 REAL Ballon D'or candidates - players who might actually win it. Madrid has one - Ronaldo.

Look at the actual voting - in 2012, the top 4 candidates in order: Messi, Ronaldo, Iniesta, Xavi. In 2011: Messi, Ronaldo, Xavi, Iniesta. In 2010: Messi, Iniesta, Xavi, Sneidjer

In 2009, FIFA world player of the year: Messi, Ronaldo (Man U & Real Madrid), Xavi, Kaka (Madrid & Milan), Iniesta. Note that Kaka got in for his play with Milan and Ronaldo with Man U. Real went and bought both to compete. Which failed miserably...

I will admit, Real doesn't work well as a team, and SAS and Barca both do. But the reason Barca is the best team on the planet is nothing the Spurs will ever see.

SA210
02-12-2013, 02:41 PM
Got to question who your "we" is tbh.

http://i1292.photobucket.com/albums/b571/jjktkk/bth_ThreeStooges_zps9e189957.jpg?t=1360683652



And yet YOU are the one that was wrong :lol

TJastal
02-12-2013, 02:49 PM
And yet YOU are the one that was wrong :lol

Popsuckers never admit Pop was wrong. About anything.

ChumpDumper
02-12-2013, 02:52 PM
I thought Pop addressed a key issue in this game that needed to be done that frankly didn't get done in the pistons loss, but is also still running afoul in another area. It's a quality win and all, but I'm going to try to stay somewhat on an even keel and refrain from frothing at the mouth like many have been in this thread.

The positive: Finally playing Leonard more than 25 minutes and letting him open up his game more will pay dividends later and sorely needed to be done for this team to take the next step. The big 3 cannot do it all every single night, there will be those nights that somebody else has to step up. Leonard as that 4th option makes the most sense, along with Splitter (who has also started to expand his game this year).

The negative: The rebounding discrepancy is a concern, no matter how it's sliced. I thought Pop called up Baynes from across the world to help fill this void, yet the guy sits and rides pine. It's puzzling to say the least that there seemed to be a sense of urgency in this matter just a few scant weeks ago. Pop even had him rushed down to the minor leagues for "conditioning" as if he was expecting him to log significant minutes.I didn't see any rush, other than it was some conveniently timed games before the RRT and Duncan's injury. The way things are going and barring a trade, Baynes might be catching dangerous entry passes again after the team gets back.

TJastal
02-12-2013, 03:04 PM
I didn't see any rush, other than it was some conveniently timed games before the RRT and Duncan's injury. The way things are going and barring a trade, Baynes might be catching dangerous entry passes again after the team gets back.

So what was the point of the minor league stint? Baynes himself said he was sent there to build up his endurance, and now that he is back to riding pine he will lose everything that was gained. Makes no sense.

jjktkk
02-12-2013, 03:05 PM
And yet YOU are the one that was wrong :lol

Because you've had difficulty in the past, I hope i can break it down to you simply. If you and others thought that Pop willingly decided to willingly go away from his defensive princples that won those championships, your as idiotic as some of your posts. Do you actually Pop just woke up one day and decided that defense is boring, I want more offense?The championship core aged, as did their best perimeter defender in Bowen. Pop and RC, had to retool the roster and build, while contend, on the fly. Did you think Pop drafted arguably the best defender in the draft in Kawhi Leonard, because he thought his cornrows were cool? I know you won't understand, but maybe one day...

ChumpDumper
02-12-2013, 03:10 PM
So what was the point of the minor league stint? Baynes himself said he was sent there to build up his endurance, and now that he is back to riding pine he will lose everything that was gained. Makes no sense.It was for conditioning, but not rushed as you characterized it. I think he was probably included on the RRT for immersion into the team culture as well as big man insurance with Duncan out. The reason I wasn't going to make a bet on a return to the Toros is that a potential trade could open up minutes or at least an active roster spot for Baynes. If the team stands pat, another assignment doesn't look out of the question.

TJastal
02-12-2013, 03:32 PM
It was for conditioning, but not rushed as you characterized it. I think he was probably included on the RRT for immersion into the team culture as well as big man insurance with Duncan out. The reason I wasn't going to make a bet on a return to the Toros is that a potential trade could open up minutes or at least an active roster spot for Baynes. If the team stands pat, another assignment doesn't look out of the question.

The plan was obviously to include Baynes in the rotation from the beginning, there was defenitely a sense of urgency on Pop's part to get him into the rotation and start increasing his minutes; enough so that he was sent down to quickly build stamina up (which he was obviously lacking). Unfortunately for Baynes, he got a case of the "niggles". And fact is Pop doesn't take too kindly to guys who are prone to the "niggles", and that promptly cooled off the plans.

Strategic
02-12-2013, 03:36 PM
Talk about having his feelings hurt, this Tribune reporter is calling Danny Green a D-Leaguer.

ChumpDumper
02-12-2013, 03:37 PM
The plan was obviously to include Baynes in the rotation from the beginning, there was defenitely a sense of urgency on Pop's part to get him into the rotation and start increasing his minutes; enough so that he was sent down to quickly build stamina up (which he was obviously lacking). Unfortunately for Baynes, he got a case of the "niggles". And fact is Pop doesn't take too kindly to guys who are prone to the "niggles", and that promptly cooled off the plans.That seems more wishful thinking than anything, with some confirmation bias sprinkled on top.

xellos88330
02-12-2013, 03:45 PM
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/rosenblog/chi-rosenbloom-chicago-bulls-lebron-20130212,0,4431157.column


Talk about having his feelings hurt, this Tribune reporter is calling Danny Green a D-Leaguer.

That was a really pissed off article. Dude must have lost money on that game or something.

jjktkk
02-12-2013, 03:48 PM
The plan was obviously to include Baynes in the rotation from the beginning, there was defenitely a sense of urgency on Pop's part to get him into the rotation and start increasing his minutes; enough so that he was sent down to quickly build stamina up (which he was obviously lacking). Unfortunately for Baynes, he got a case of the "niggles". And fact is Pop doesn't take too kindly to guys who are prone to the "niggles", and that promptly cooled off the plans.

And you know this because? Lol obviously.

JR3
02-12-2013, 04:51 PM
Very impressed. They keep making me proud.

dunkman
02-12-2013, 06:51 PM
This team has a real shot to the finals, perhaps the title - with good luck and everyone healthy.

EricB
02-12-2013, 07:00 PM
Don't be angry that we were right and you were wrong lol


You mean 95% of the people? Here's a cookie sunshine.

wildbill2u
02-12-2013, 07:12 PM
I think last year's Spurs went a long way toward builiding that 'team spirit'. Look at that remarkable streak of wins at the end of the regular season and into the playoffs. Sure they got shot down by an OKC team that had a younger and perhaps better Big 3 plus a good bit of good fortune when some of our role players went into a slump, but still they were deep and fun to watch if you love team basketball.

So they are just picking up where they left off. The game last night was a great example of execution of the system by players who know how to use the system to win. The commentators on NBA-TV were really impressed and laudatory. Makes you feel great to be a Spurs fan.

Go Spurs Go :flag:

SA210
02-12-2013, 09:17 PM
You mean 95% of the people? Here's a cookie sunshine.

Stop lying, you would NEVER give a cookie away.

Mugen
02-12-2013, 09:27 PM
Stop lying, you would NEVER give a cookie away.

:rollin

vander
02-12-2013, 09:37 PM
I'm surprised that there are people in here saying this win had anything to do with Tiago being effective, Tiago was, more often then not, getting owned out there offensively and defensively.

RuffnReadyOzStyle
02-13-2013, 12:21 AM
This team is exactly that: a team. Most coaches coach teams; Pop has created a team. The players are unselfish enough to concentrate on their roles, no matter how big or how small. When the team needs to make an adjustment due to who is available, there's a seamless shift of roles that doesn't need to be explained. It just happens.

I don't know how this season is going to end but I'm going to enjoy every second of this ride.

All for one. Tonight, they won for all. Thank you, Spurs.

:tu

Me too, my friend. Incredible win short-handed in Chicago, following a strong comeback win the night before.

Incredible stuff, really. 3 years ago I never thought I'd still be looking at a 60-win team that can win even without its ageing stars. :flag:

racm
02-13-2013, 12:36 AM
The scary thing is that we haven't seen this team perform at full strength. Sure, the 20 win streak team was healthy but the rotation was different and Nando/Baynes weren't on the team yet.

We've only had, what, a dozen games with the Parker/Green/Leonard/Duncan/Splitter starting 5 and that group has an incredulous efficiency.

Brunodf
02-13-2013, 12:45 AM
I'm surprised that there are people in here saying this win had anything to do with Tiago being effective, Tiago was, more often then not, getting owned out there offensively and defensively.

Wut? 16 points on 7 shots isn't effective? He was good defensively, what game did u watch?

Man In Black
02-13-2013, 03:09 AM
TBH some peeps need to step away from their smartphones, tablets, and laptops and start watching some real hoops. Pop doesn't give a fuck about O rebounds, if it means the Spurs lose the overall R totals but get the W, he'll take it. If your team is notable for brick-building jump shots, then your team will be fairly good at offensive rebounds, There is no real evidence that substantiates a high rate of Ws when you win the O Board totals.

Pop has a Batman Utility Belt of players that he uses to fuck up the comp. He's armed and dangerous and comes with strong wine.

Mel_13
02-13-2013, 05:46 PM
They (the Spurs) could be the first team to win a game, against a playoff team no less, without any of their players actually playing. That's how confident I am in their system.

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/story/21692871/power-rankings-amid-all-star-break-itis-heat-in-lebron-zone

exstatic
02-13-2013, 07:44 PM
They (the Spurs) could be the first team to win a game, against a playoff team no less, without any of their players actually playing. That's how confident I am in their system.

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/story/21692871/power-rankings-amid-all-star-break-itis-heat-in-lebron-zone

:lol lol, wut?

Proxy
02-13-2013, 08:22 PM
I think the team really believes. They know the offense is elite. They know what they need to do on that end, and beating good teams without the big 3 by playing in Pop's system only solidifies that confidence. It seems reasonable for them to think that if they continue to pick up their defense, they can make up the 2 game difference from last year and make it to the finals to play Miami.

DieHardSpursFan1537
02-13-2013, 09:33 PM
Anything timvp says is true.

LoneStarState'sPride
02-13-2013, 09:53 PM
I think last year's Spurs went a long way toward builiding that 'team spirit'. Look at that remarkable streak of wins at the end of the regular season and into the playoffs. Sure they got shot down by an OKC team that had a younger and perhaps better Big 3 plus a good bit of good fortune when some of our role players went into a slump, but still they were deep and fun to watch if you love team basketball.

So they are just picking up where they left off. The game last night was a great example of execution of the system by players who know how to use the system to win. The commentators on NBA-TV were really impressed and laudatory. Makes you feel great to be a Spurs fan.

Go Spurs Go :flag:

Every word of this. :flag:

Kool Bob Love
06-10-2013, 10:26 PM
The man himself.:toast

spurraider21
02-02-2015, 11:59 PM
:cry