Tom Thibodeau: "We Beat Ourselves"

[timvp]

"When you outrebound somebody like we did and to be in the position we were in, we beat ourselves."

-Tom Thibodeau







:td Lame thing to say, tbh. The Spurs played their azzes off to get that win.

[Brunodf]

:lolButthurt

[LoneStarState'sPride]

fuck you, Thibs

[Ice009]

Thibs is a loser.

[SpursIndonesia]

So, no credit to the Toros team who had just going in without lube over your team rear tonite, eh ?? Exactly the definition of a SORE LOSER. :rolleyes

[silverblackfan]

Well, what else can he say? "Pop can beat my squad with his bench?" I agree, the Spurs just played harder and better tonight. They took this game away, it was not given to them.

[Mugen]

I guess he's referring to the turnovers. I'd buy it if they were close all game and only lost by single digits. But not when they were thoroughly outplayed for the majority of the game by Kawhi & Co. tbh.

[crc21209]

Pretty dickhead move to not give the Spurs any credit for the win...:td

[TheSkeptic]

Well I think what hurt the Bulls was Thibodeau's rotations, Deng the all star being thoroughly outclassed by Leonard, and the turnovers. I guess I understand where he's coming from since usually controlling the glass is what puts you in prime position to win and the Spurs were playing without the Big 3.

But the Spurs definitely outplayed the Bulls tonight. Thibs needs to just congratulate the Spurs and move on.

[Capt Bringdown]

Spurs win by 15 despite getting crushed on the boards 49 to 26. Must be some kind of record.

[Arcadian]

Well they did turn it over a lot. A hell of a lot. That's generally acceptable to attribute to oneself.

But still, [Spurs - Duncan/Parker/Manu/Jackson] > [Bulls - Rose].

[Strategic]

If they beat themselves then they were beat by two teams tonight. That must really hurt.

[jesterbobman]

He's just trying to motivate his team. If Pop said the same thing after we lost like that, We'd probably think fair enough, we should've won. Thibs doesn't(and shouldn't) care about how we feel, he's trying to get the Bulls players to work harder and be better.

[Snow]

:cry Tom Thibodeau ain't bout dis life

[LoneStarState'sPride]

He's just trying to motivate his team. If Pop said the same thing after we lost like that, We'd probably think fair enough, we should've won. Thibs doesn't(and shouldn't) care about how we feel, he's trying to get the Bulls players to work harder and be better.


Difference is, Pop DOESN'T say things like that. He's more apt to say "We got our asses beat," than to not give the other team any credit. I hear what you're saying, though.

[benefactor]

You got fucked in the ass by a bunch of nobodies on the second night of a back to back at home after your team had three days rest.

Drink your medicine and like it, Thibs.

[Strategic]

:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:nope

[Spursfanfromafar]

Thibs is a great coach. But he is an anti-Pop among the great coaches in the league. For him, the regular season wins matter too much and he plays his main players to the ground (poor Rose, poor Noah with plantar fascitis). Plus being butthurt like this is not going to motivate his team, either, IMO.

[BatManu20]

You got fucked in the ass by a bunch of nobodies on the second night of a back to back at home after your team had three days rest.

Drink your medicine and like it, Thibs.

I like to think our bench players are more than just a bunch of nobodies..

[Kindergarten Cop]

How severe do you think Thibodeau's punishment from Stern will be?

Not for making these comments, but for getting blown out by the Spurs' backups as Pop flashes another middle finger to the league.

[Darius Bieber]

:cry It's better to say we beat ourselves than to say we lost to a better team with only bench players.:cry
:cry But we didn't have our lord and savior Derrick Rose.:cry

[DMC]

Pop said the same thing basically, they didn't play a good game, they had too many turnovers. Both coaches watched the same game, they saw the same things, they got the same conclusions, they told the truth.

[DMC]

Difference is, Pop DOESN'T say things like that. He's more apt to say "We got our asses beat," than to not give the other team any credit. I hear what you're saying, though.

True, I recall a depleted Blazers squad with Nate McMillan kicking our asses at home, and Pop's praise for them was non-stop.

[cjw]

I'm surprised the headline on BSPN isn't:

Spurs edge short-handed Bulls despite being outrebounded by 23 :lol

[AussieFanKurt]

Its pretty true, they had a ridiculous amount of turnovers and executed woefully as a result

[timvp]

Yeah, I don't recall Pop ever saying the Spurs beat themselves. In basketball talk, that's disrespectful to say, no matter how you frame it, IMO.

[LoneStarState'sPride]

Yeah, I don't recall Pop ever saying the Spurs beat themselves. In basketball talk, that's disrespectful to say, no matter how you frame it, IMO.

Yup, and Thibs knows this, so fuck him.

[sananspursfan21]

Its pretty true, they had a ridiculous amount of turnovers and executed woefully as a result

but who took those turnovers away? no credit for the spurs defense forcing mistakes? sorry but thibidick has to give credit where credit is due. even if it was a bad pass, it took a spurs player to have to catch that pass...

[Joyrider]

Good luck on your job security after you drive Rose back into the ground for 48 minutes on his first game back.

[Spurs 4 The Win]

He is just tring to give his team a confidence boost, do you think they want to hear how they have no shot at a title cuz they just got beat by a bench team.... No, they are gonna frame it as they beat themselves and shouldve won so that team morale stays up lol

[Spur|n|Austin]

Thibby, don't be a silly bitch.

[capek]

Yeah, I don't recall Pop ever saying the Spurs beat themselves. In basketball talk, that's disrespectful to say, no matter how you frame it, IMO.

Pop's description of the Spurs WCF loss to OKC was basically "Spurs beat themselves." ie "They stole our mojo" "we forgot who we were" etc. Pop's just a master rhetorician tbh, able to say stuff like that without actually saying it :hat

[LoneStarState'sPride]

Pop's just a master rhetorician tbh

I can agree with that.

[phxspurfan]

Thibs is garbage. The only reason he won is because he had the best PG on the planet and some great role players for a few years. The minute Rose got hurt, the Bulls started to seriously suck.

[capek]

Thibs is garbage. The only reason he won is because he had the best PG on the planet and some great role players for a few years. The minute Rose got hurt, the Bulls started to seriously suck.

Reminiscent of Avery and Dirk. So many pretenders out there. Only one wine-loving Innovator though :tu

[MI21]

Thibs is garbage. The only reason he won is because he had the best PG on the planet and some great role players for a few years. The minute Rose got hurt, the Bulls started to seriously suck.

Not sure where that comes from? The Bulls are still more than competitive without Rose.

[spurs10]

You got fucked in the ass by a bunch of nobodies on the second night of a back to back at home after your team had three days rest.

Drink your medicine and like it, Thibs.

I believe this statement adequately articulates what occurred in Chicago this evening....:toast

[Sean Cagney]

LOL you lost to a team with three of their best players out, you just lost fool..... Move on.

[Russ]

I think Thibodeau's been through enough (Derick Rose) without us piling on him too much.

[spurraider21]

lol Pop schooling Thibs and making a case for repeat coach of the year... Thibs probably the favorite before tonight

[ElNono]

Thibs also said: "They are terrific. They are going to make you pay for your mistakes."

Sounds like the OP is trying to :stirpot:, tbh

[JR3]

So basically he is saying that he got out coached....

[Solid D]

Meh. I didn't see/hear the entire interview. At least Tom didn't say "They beat themselves."

[024]

Lolwut? Coaches say this all the time. They say the other team played great but they were the ones who lost the game and could have played better. I'm sure I could find different variations of this for all coaches including pop. It's to protect the confidence of players to lessen the blow of the ass beating to their morale.

[Hoops Czar]

So, no credit to the Toros team who had just going in without lube over your team rear tonite, eh ?? Exactly the definition of a SORE LOSER. :rolleyes

Timvp didn't post the entire quote. He did give the Spurs credit. But the Bulls gave up 29 points off 19 turnovers. Tough to win games whe you hand your opponent 29 points. Regatdless, a good win for the Spurs.


Oh, and Lol, calling Leonard, Green, Splitter, Diaw, and Neal D-leaguers.

[HarlemHeat37]

I agree with Thibs, tbh..losing to a severely shorthanded team that you outrebounded by 20+ is embarrassing and should be considered an upset, essentially "beating yourself"..

:lol phxspurfan with a horrible take, as usual..

[Reck]

That's the way it goes.

Spurs are always undermine, disregarded and disrespected.

All for the better because every time this team win against all odds it makes it all that much sweeter.

[roycrikside]

Yeah, I don't recall Pop ever saying the Spurs beat themselves. In basketball talk, that's disrespectful to say, no matter how you frame it, IMO.

I don't think it's all that different than Pop playing the soft card, tbh. When Pop says "we were soft" or for that matter if he says "we didn't hit shots" or "we didn't play defense" or "we didn't take care of the ball" the implication is clear: "If we did X we'd have won."

All coaches think they have the talent on paper to win. It hey look inward. It's not about the opponent it's about controlling how your guys play. You can't worry about them.

[roycrikside]

Seriously you guys want Tibs to say "We played our absolute best but we just weren't good enough to beat the Spurs ' b-team?"

[Cry Havoc]

"We beat ourselves. By double digits."

Damn. They must have been doing some Ricky Davis shit to lose so badly to themselves. :lmao

This should put Pop back into the CotY discussion, tbh. It wasn't a fluke that our B team almost beat the Heat. I think it's between Pop and Jackson for CotY now.

[hater]

Maybe he meant they beat each others meat in the locker room at halftime thus were gassed the 2nd half

[freetiago]

"Just mistakes on our part, obviously we give them credit they played well. Guys like Serge (Ibaka) continue to attack us and make plays. But all-in-all I thought we got a little stagnant on the offensive end."
-- Duncan after a loss vs OKC

spurfan is so sensitive
thibs is a good coach minus the running his players into the ground
he doesnt have much offensive talent to work with and he seems to feel like he has to play boozer just like pop did with jefferson because of his paycheck

[Horse]

Fuck that fat jon lovitz lookalike.

[G-Nob]

Thibs also said: "They are terrific. They are going to make you pay for your mistakes."

Sounds like the OP is trying to :stirpot:, tbh

[EricB]

Truthfully? He's exactly right. Sportsmanship and character wise? Cheap move. More a page out of the book of Phil Jackson.

[SpursRock20]

Spurs win by 15 despite getting crushed on the boards 49 to 26. Must be some kind of record.
From Elias: The Spurs defeated the Bulls 103-89 despite being outrebounded, 49-26. Only one other team in the last 35 seasons has won by at least 14 points in a game in which it was -23 or worse on the boards. The Grizzlies posted a 92-78 win over the Nuggets in a game where Denver out-rebounded Vancouver 59-34, on April 19, 1996 :wow

[freetiago]

From Elias: The Spurs defeated the Bulls 103-89 despite being outrebounded, 49-26. Only one other team in the last 35 seasons has won by at least 14 points in a game in which it was -23 or worse on the boards. The Grizzlies posted a 92-78 win over the Nuggets in a game where Denver out-rebounded Vancouver 59-34, on April 19, 1996 :wow

the 14 points is what makes it seem like it never happens
http://espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?id=400278079

won by double digits would be a better metric and they got outrebounded by a little over 2:1

[quentin_compson]

I think some of the reactions here are way overblown. Thibodeau also gave a ton of credit to the Spurs. On reading his whole take on the game, I didn't get the impression that it was his intention to disrespect the Spurs.

[Bill_Brasky]

Thibs is garbage. The only reason he won is because he had the best PG on the planet and some great role players for a few years. The minute Rose got hurt, the Bulls started to seriously suck.
Are you fucking kidding me?

[Obstructed_View]

Yeah, I don't recall Pop ever saying the Spurs beat themselves. In basketball talk, that's disrespectful to say, no matter how you frame it, IMO.

I have to say that "we just didn't make shots" is about 100 times as delusional, considering Pop routinely said it when the Spurs were crushed by more complete teams. That said, Thibs has clearly spent too much time reading his own press. Turns out he's not really as good a coach without great defenders AND the MVP on his squad.

[JR3]

The Spurs B team is legit!

[dbreiden83080]

Pretty dickhead move to not give the Spurs any credit for the win...:td

Seriously.. I guess he was really embarassed..

[hooperflash]

This time around he gives us credit, smart move Thibbs :lol

"You can't hold on to the ball," Chicago coach Tom Thibodeau said. "The ball has to move side to side. They're too good defensively. In the second half we settled; we took some poor shots. With the depth that they have, they're going to make you pay." -Tom Thibodeau

[Cane]

Noticed Pop didn't walk across the court to shake hands with Thibs

probably means nothing

Or CIA shit

[Fireball]

Noticed Pop didn't walk across the court to shake hands with Thibs

probably means nothing

Or CIA shit

oftentimes he only waves in the direction of the opposing coach ... not everybody is Larry Brown

[Mark in Austin]

not everybody is Larry Brown

Thank God for that.

[Spur|n|Austin]

Noticed Pop didn't walk across the court to shake hands with Thibs

probably means nothing

Or CIA shit

I don't think he does that for anybody really, besides LB..

[024]

pop does it for pretty much all his former assistants and players. most notably, vaughn and avery.