SPURS weaknesses and suggestion on how to address them

[Bong]

once again the spurs are on its way to be the NBA best in the regular season, but once we are again playing for the playoffs spurs vulnerabilities starts to stock up preventing us from reaching our goal --->:lobt: what do you think are the spurs current weaknesses and what solutions we could use. IMHO our priority weakness would be rebound due to lack of athletic back up bigs. when TS and TD were both on the floor we were able to match up our opponent on the boards eventhough both players are not athletic their skills in out boxing their opponents are excellent but when blair/bonner were on the floor either being combined with either TS/TD or both on the floor, opponents were starting to gobble up offensive rebound leading to 2nd chance points. proposed solution: add a big with height and enough athleticism to box out and also produce in limited minutes: i think RC already made a move here when the spurs got baynes but due to lack of nba experience and not enough exposure to our system he might end up as a liability on the floor. just my opinion i hope we could try to get byron mullens from bobcats his a 7footer with athleticism IMO is better than blair in rebounding and also can shoot the 3ball not as good though compared with bonner but our priority is his rebounding his offense is not a priority but would certainly a blessing to provide additional scoring with the 2nd unit.

[benstanfield]

when TS and TD were both on the floor we were able to match up our opponent on the boards eventhough both players are not athletic their skills in out boxing their opponents are excellent but when blair/bonner were on the floor either being combined with either TS/TD or both on the floor, opponents were starting to gobble up offensive rebound leading to 2nd chance points.

In what world is that a coherent sentence? Basically all I got from your body text was that the Spurs need to go after Byron Mullens. If Byron Mullens is ever, EVER the difference between a team winning or not winning a championship, I will shit a chicken. When the words "Byron Mullens would improve this Spurs team" ever even approach being the truth, you know surely and definitively that we are fucked beyond all measure.

There are times when I wonder why I keep reading Spurstalk.

[Kawhi fan]

I agree! Rebounding is what is killing us. The Bulls got far too many offensive boards the other day, but lucky for us they committed a heap of TO's too.

Baynes could help. Not necessarily to 'fit in our game plan', but perhaps as a disruption to the other teams plans. If you stick him in for a couple of minutes while Timmy and Tiago are off, just to make the other teams feel like there is a big body under the glass! Might effect their play??

Ultimately you want to move some 'non-essentials' for another big, but without a move, this could help!

[chapnis]

Byron Mullens is poop. I don't want him to ever play for the Spurs.

[lefty]

Give PED'S to Bonner TBH

[slick'81]

thats what the spurs need another pussy stretch 4

[lefty]

pussy stretch 4
is that Jefferson's legal name ?

[LarryDavid]

once again the spurs are on its way to be the NBA best in the regular season, but once we are again playing for the playoffs spurs vulnerabilities starts to stock up preventing us from reaching our goal --->:lobt: what do you think are the spurs current weaknesses and what solutions we could use. IMHO our priority weakness would be rebound due to lack of athletic back up bigs. when TS and TD were both on the floor we were able to match up our opponent on the boards eventhough both players are not athletic their skills in out boxing their opponents are excellent but when blair/bonner were on the floor either being combined with either TS/TD or both on the floor, opponents were starting to gobble up offensive rebound leading to 2nd chance points. proposed solution: add a big with height and enough athleticism to box out and also produce in limited minutes: i think RC already made a move here when the spurs got baynes but due to lack of nba experience and not enough exposure to our system he might end up as a liability on the floor. just my opinion i hope we could try to get byron mullens from bobcats his a 7footer with athleticism IMO is better than blair in rebounding and also can shoot the 3ball not as good though compared with bonner but our priority is his rebounding his offense is not a priority but would certainly a blessing to provide additional scoring with the 2nd unit.


Periods Motha.. !!!!! They are your friend.

[KL2]

The chances of the Spurs getting a big that can both defend and rebound are slim to none with the pieces the Spurs have and what's available out there.


There is 1 position the Spurs need a lot of help with and that's the backup pg position, a pg that could run the offense and just not mess things up with TP/Manu on the bench would do wonders for this team. PG's are a dime a dozen in this league and a much easier position to acquire.


With Jack really underperforming and his big contract I will really be surprised should he remain in SA after the deadline. Trade Jack for another SF and backup PG and we're good, the SF SA gets could easily replace Jack's production and the Spurs get much better with a backup pg.

[Bong]

In what world is that a coherent sentence? Basically all I got from your body text was that the Spurs need to go after Byron Mullens. If Byron Mullens is ever, EVER the difference between a team winning or not winning a championship, I will shit a chicken. When the words "Byron Mullens would improve this Spurs team" ever even approach being the truth, you know surely and definitively that we are fucked beyond all measure.

There are times when I wonder why I keep reading Spurstalk.
if your read and understand my post im not saying that mullens is the key for our championship, my argument here is about rebounds, which we really sucks at, teams that defeated us, examples were OKC and clippers always outrebounded us. if we could address this problem preventing our opponent to have 2nd chance points it would certainly have a bearing on the result of the match. i suggested mullens aside from having a cheap contract his with the bobcats (eastern conference team) IMO its better to have a trade with our conference counterpart, instead of trading our players with same conference team that could affect the stiff competition here at the western conference

[BatManu20]

Rebounding and interior defense. Opposing teams run lay up lines against us for about half of each game. If we had an interior shot blocking presence, it would completely change the defense of this team. Duncan is our only presence in side and he can't do it alone. And as soon as ge goes out, it's time for the lay up drill. Unfortunately, we're stuck with Splitter and his 3-inch vertical trying to alter shots or Diaw, Blair, and Bonner watching the ball go through the hoop. THat's my only complaint with this team. Unfortunately, those 2 things can and will single handedly lose you some games, esp against good teams like MIA, OKC, and LAC.

[FireMicoHalili]

The point is that the trade machine took too long to process his trade but yes he does want that scrub Mullens

[racm]

Need a backup PG more than a big. The big rotation is Duncan/Splitter/Diaw with Bonner/Blair/Baynes all seeing situational minutes.

Now, Tony has behind him:

Neal (not a point)
De Colo (teams don't respect his scoring ability)
Mills (smaller Neal with better handles but less knowledge of the system)
Joseph (has yet to see meaningful PT)

[Darkwaters]

Unreadable

[freetiago]

Spurs get anthony randolph in a 3 team trade
nuggets and spurs send depth
3rd team send star out to nuggets (josh smith?)

[EJFischer]

The playoffs are a theater of small sample sizes. There are never any guarantees in the post season. When you have had the roughest road schedule in the league and still, at the All-Star Break, have the best record, making anything other than minor changes is foolish. The team, demonstrably, ain't broke.

[Prime Time]

It's more of a project, But what do you guys think of Arnett Moultrie?

[DrunkTXLabrat]

hey bong. i understand you, brotha. mind these people that play grammar police. dont put a big blob. space your ideas out, it really is easier to read.

to hell with that guy talking about "oh is scrub mullens really gonna make a difference?" you bet your ass mullens makes a difference. he'd add bench depth, rebounds, defense, 3's. a team is only as strong as it's weakest player. spurs weakest player is blair. he's hopelessly outsized. cutting him = good move. getting somebody as well rounded as mullens = championship level move.

forget the backup point guard issue. pop just needs to settle on nando. issue solved.

rebounds and blocks are the biggest issue, really they shouldn't be. wait for a healthy timmy. pop plays baynes. issue solved...but, new issue.

there's no injury depth at big. diaw is serviceable. bonner is a 3 specialist. but blair is just useless. ideally the spurs can trade him straight up. every other player on this team fits, considering pop figures out the rotation. pick(s)/ draft rights are the only tools the fo should use to move blair.

perry jones, trey thompkins, or quincy miller. unproven, young, well round talentwise. with the body blair just doesn't have. also, players on non-division playoff threats. imagine koufos in foul trouble, faried got hurt, mcgee is trippin, mozgov is gone. round 2 game 7. the nuggets need blair in san antonio for good minutes! what are timmy and tiago gonna do?

i wouldn't see mj taking blair for mullens straight. mullens is good. youth, 3's, boards, and post defense. i dunno why the haters are hating on him. prob cause he's a bobcat. i consider the last bobcat the spurs picked up, no not derrick brown. maybe with the picks or draft rights blair could fetch mullens. but what about keeping the picks and rights? instead give the bobcats a quality sjax. and add tyrus thomas?

[DrunkTXLabrat]

i do also like moultrie. sending blair to pennsylvania seems like the kinda no brainer the spurs shoulda pulled in the draft when moultrie was moving around.

[z0sa]

hit the Bong and you'll feel better.

[Trainwreck2100]

Their biggest weakness is relying on players that no show in the playoffs

[TrainOfThought5]

The playoffs are a theater of small sample sizes. There are never any guarantees in the post season. When you have had the roughest road schedule in the league and still, at the All-Star Break, have the best record, making anything other than minor changes is foolish. The team, demonstrably, ain't broke.

what this guy said.

[Embedded]

In what world is that a coherent sentence? Basically all I got from your body text was that the Spurs need to go after Byron Mullens. If Byron Mullens is ever, EVER the difference between a team winning or not winning a championship, I will shit a chicken. When the words "Byron Mullens would improve this Spurs team" ever even approach being the truth, you know surely and definitively that we are fucked beyond all measure.

There are times when I wonder why I keep reading Spurstalk. Note to self: If ever invited to Bestanfield's house for chicken, politely decline.

[z0sa]

Note to self: If ever invited to Bestanfield's house for chicken, politely decline.

Don't be such a chickenshit.

[TrainOfThought5]

Their biggest weakness is relying on players that no show in the playoffs

and what this guy said as well

[tenbeersbold]

Yup,Spurs are only goin' as far as Green goes,he goes cold and gets into a rut its most likely GAME OVER.

Given the NBA/Stern agenda the Spurs have to comfortably outscore their opponents in the POF's to have a shot

Any close games that could be decided by a little late 3rd qtr foul calling/margin tightening are destined to bite SA in the a**. I know if it was my billions on the line I'd handle it accordingly...

[Pasta Batman]

I agree! Rebounding is what is killing us. The Bulls got far too many offensive boards the other day, but lucky for us they committed a heap of TO's too.

Baynes could help. Not necessarily to 'fit in our game plan', but perhaps as a disruption to the other teams plans. If you stick him in for a couple of minutes while Timmy and Tiago are off, just to make the other teams feel like there is a big body under the glass! Might effect their play??

Ultimately you want to move some 'non-essentials' for another big, but without a move, this could help!

Duncan didn't play in the Bulls game.
As for Baynes, he needs time to learn the system. Practices (hopefully there have been a few) as his best place right now. Then blowout games.

[silverblk mystix]

Hey OP;

Is Bong - your username or just what you use all day long?

[callo1]

Without trading Jack and Tiago, it is going to be hard to really get much to improve the team.

Option A: Somehow get Utah to take Jack/Bonner or Neal for Milsap (not likely). Milsap can guard 3-5 and allows the Spurs to go small without getting killed on the boards, he also provides a body to check Ibaka in the playoffs. I still contend that other than Hardin, Ibaka hurt the Spurs the most last year.

Option B: Keep Sjax and Splitter, and try and move a combination of Bonner/Neal/Blair for (yes I know it makes the Spurs older) Jermaine O'Neal. O'Neal has shown me in the last two years that he can still play. He still has a nice game around the basket, and would give the Spurs more big man experienced depth. He offers a rebounding improvment as well. The last part of option B is to somehow get a comepetent backup pg. Nando shows flashes, but to me, Cujo is a better option at this junchture. Problem is, Pop won't trust them come playoff time, so look at other options like the guy every Spur hates with a passion...Fisher. It isn't perfect, but it goes keep the rest of the team together. All of these other "big moves" are close to pipe dreams tbh.

[aal04]

We need our roleplayers to roleplay in the play offs.

We dont need them to lift, we just need them to play as they do in the regular season. They have not done this on past runs.

I think we have enough to win it.

[Cry Havoc]

In what world is that a coherent sentence? Basically all I got from your body text was that the Spurs need to go after Byron Mullens. If Byron Mullens is ever, EVER the difference between a team winning or not winning a championship, I will shit a chicken. When the words "Byron Mullens would improve this Spurs team" ever even approach being the truth, you know surely and definitively that we are fucked beyond all measure.

There are times when I wonder why I keep reading Spurstalk.

You should post more because them right there's the goods. Would improve SpursTalk posts if more people who actually know wtf they're talking about start lining up.

[DrunkTXLabrat]

if neal gets moved with blair, fisher is a good idea.

[Brunodf]

if neal gets moved with blair, fisher is a good idea.
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[rascal]

The frontline is weak.

[DrunkTXLabrat]

fisher would be what neal should be. a guy on the bench behind decolo and mills, that can hit a clutch 3 if necessary.

[DrunkTXLabrat]

actually i'll back peddle. fisher would be a bad idea. not cause i think fisher sucks. but because i think the spurs biggest need is young tweener forwards that can defend, board, and shoot. they have plenty guards.

[BackHome]

The chances of the Spurs getting a big that can both defend and rebound are slim to none with the pieces the Spurs have and what's available out there.


There is 1 position the Spurs need a lot of help with and that's the backup pg position, a pg that could run the offense and just not mess things up with TP/Manu on the bench would do wonders for this team. PG's are a dime a dozen in this league and a much easier position to acquire.


With Jack really underperforming and his big contract I will really be surprised should he remain in SA after the deadline. Trade Jack for another SF and backup PG and we're good, the SF SA gets could easily replace Jack's production and the Spurs get much better with a backup pg.

+1

[slick'81]

weakness??How about diaw/bonner/blair spurs need size and d upfront

[ManuTastic]

Main weakness is still interior defense, that's gotten better but not enough better. Also lack of a bloodthirsty next-level star who can take it up a notch or three when needed in crunch time. Although Tony is certainly looking like he's auditioning for the role this year...

[Bong]

hey bong. i understand you, brotha. mind these people that play grammar police. dont put a big blob. space your ideas out, it really is easier to read.

to hell with that guy talking about "oh is scrub mullens really gonna make a difference?" you bet your ass mullens makes a difference. he'd add bench depth, rebounds, defense, 3's. a team is only as strong as it's weakest player. spurs weakest player is blair. he's hopelessly outsized. cutting him = good move. getting somebody as well rounded as mullens = championship level move.

forget the backup point guard issue. pop just needs to settle on nando. issue solved.

rebounds and blocks are the biggest issue, really they shouldn't be. wait for a healthy timmy. pop plays baynes. issue solved...but, new issue.

there's no injury depth at big. diaw is serviceable. bonner is a 3 specialist. but blair is just useless. ideally the spurs can trade him straight up. every other player on this team fits, considering pop figures out the rotation. pick(s)/ draft rights are the only tools the fo should use to move blair.

perry jones, trey thompkins, or quincy miller. unproven, young, well round talentwise. with the body blair just doesn't have. also, players on non-division playoff threats. imagine koufos in foul trouble, faried got hurt, mcgee is trippin, mozgov is gone. round 2 game 7. the nuggets need blair in san antonio for good minutes! what are timmy and tiago gonna do?

i wouldn't see mj taking blair for mullens straight. mullens is good. youth, 3's, boards, and post defense. i dunno why the haters are hating on him. prob cause he's a bobcat. i consider the last bobcat the spurs picked up, no not derrick brown. maybe with the picks or draft rights blair could fetch mullens. but what about keeping the picks and rights? instead give the bobcats a quality sjax. and add tyrus thomas?

thanks, ill try to improve my grammar next time:toast

[racm]

Main weakness is still interior defense, that's gotten better but not enough better. Also lack of a bloodthirsty next-level star who can take it up a notch or three when needed in crunch time. Although Tony is certainly looking like he's auditioning for the role this year...

I think giving up the midrange shot is a bigger weakness.

[SpursIndonesia]

I think giving up the midrange shot is a bigger weakness.

It's by design, you can't prevent corner three's and lay ups without giving up something, which is actually the worst shot in basketball. We've improved our 3pts defense & rim defense this year, that should give us more margin, but still you have to pray that other team bigs won't hit those 18-20 footers with Nowitzki's like accuracy ala Dirkbaka of last year. And honestly, Tiago should be more effective in challenging those midrange jumpers compared to last year Boris, fact that he's a starter now with more minutes on the court. He has enough length and quickness, just have to ante up the effort and determination.

[Horse]

Our weakness in the playoffs is, once we play sterns favorites(thunder,heat,lakers, probaly even the clippers now) we will not get a call. Solution: kill stern or pray he retires early.

[Horse]

Yeah the thunder have proven they just got superhot against us in WCF. They live and die with jumpers.

[Trimble87]

This will help

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