Bush was a total disaster. Obama is worse.

[Capt Bringdown]

More Redistribution of Wealth to the Richest

Sure, Bush made the rich richer.

But Obama has actually redistributed wealth from the middle class to the very richest more than Bush.

Specifically, income inequality has increased more under Obama than under Bush.

One of the reasons why the super-rich are becoming much richer and everyone else poorer is that Obama is prosecuting fewer financial crimes than Bush, or his father or Ronald Reagan.

And by pointing out that inequality is skyrocketing, we’re not calling for a redistribution of wealth downward. We’re calling for an end to policies which allow wealth to be concentrated in a few hands.

Without the government’s creation of the too big to fail banks (they’ve gotten much bigger under Obama), the Fed’s intervention in interest rates and the markets (most of the quantitative easing has occurred under Obama), and government-created moral hazard emboldening casino-style speculation (there’s now more moral hazard than ever before) … things wouldn’t have gotten nearly as bad.

Indeed, crony capitalism has gotten even worse under Obama.

Even mainstream Democrats who support Obama’s national security policies more or less admit that they are simply falling into a cult of personality.

So Bush was a disaster … but Obama is worse.
- more ->> (http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2013/02/more-rape-of-americans-by-elites-more-erosion-of-freedom.html)

[boutons_deux]

"One of the reasons why the super-rich are becoming much richer and everyone else poorer is that Obama is prosecuting fewer financial crimes than Bush"

the VRWC/Repug tax cuts going back to St Ronnie, compounded over 35 years, combined with the UCA/VRWC War on Employees+unions, pre-dated Barry and are continuing on a decades-old, unbendable trajectory.

yes, not enough prosecutions of financial crimes under Barry, but if there were, they'd just be, like all other penalties, nothing but hand slaps and no effective change in wealth inequality.

[DisAsTerBot]

yes, not enough prosecutions of financial crimes under Barry, but



predictable

[boutons_deux]

predictable

AND true.

[LnGrrrR]

But, but, but, Obama is a socialist!

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

But, but, but, Obama is a socialist!

This. I thought Obama hated and had an agenda against rich people?

[boutons_deux]

Has the Government Finally "Grown a Pair"?http://www.alternet.org/files/styles/story_image/public/story_images/picture_1_1.png

http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/has-government-finally-grown-pair

[Clipper Nation]

Like I've said all along during his presidency, Obama is a corporatist, just like everyone else in the DNC and GOP establishments... the socialism accusations are laughable, but crony corporatism is just as bad, tbh.... and yet people continue to demand more interference from these people into the free market? :lol

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

I'm curious why people always target banks like JPMorgan, Citi, Goldman, etc. and never mention Barclays in that group. Manipulating the LIBOR rate was more corrupt and illegal than anything those banks have done, and the fund VXX they've created has also stolen billions of dollars from people.

[Winehole23]

@CN: what free market? thought you just said it was all cronied up with the government?

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

The penalty Barclays got for manipulating the LIBOR rate was also a joke

:lol paying a few billion to the government as a penalty for manipulating the value of 35 trillion dollars in derivatives.

[TeyshaBlue]

The penalty Barclays got for manipulating the LIBOR rate was also a joke

:lol paying a few billion to the government as a penalty for manipulating the value of 35 trillion dollars in derivatives.

They're probably pastors, tbh.

[Clipper Nation]

@CN: what free market? thought you just said it was all cronied up with the government?
Pretty much, tbh.... there's still plenty of small businesses who aren't cronied up with the government, but big business certainly is, and the regulations that the left pushes for in the name of "fairness" ironically only make crony capitalism easier for all involved...

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Pretty much, tbh.... there's still plenty of small businesses who aren't cronied up with the government, but big business certainly is, and the regulations that the left pushes for in the name of "fairness" ironically only make crony capitalism easier for all involved...

Prior to Clinton the left was actually tough on corporations, but yeah the left has been run by corporate shills ever since Slick Willy came along and moved the party over to the right with "free trade" bills like NAFTA. The combination of Reagan on the 80s and Slick Willy in the 90s put America in the hands of corporations, then Bush came along and took us past the point of no return :lol

[boutons_deux]

More proof of why Wall St blocked EW as head of CFPB, but couldn't defeat her Senate run while giving $Ms to her opponent Brown.

Elizabeth Warren Embarrasses Hapless Bank Regulators At First Hearing (VIDEO)

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/14/elizabeth-warren-bank-regulators_n_2688998.html?utm_hp_ref=mostpopular

[Bill_Brasky]

The penalty Barclays got for manipulating the LIBOR rate was also a joke

:lol paying a few billion to the government as a penalty for manipulating the value of 35 trillion dollars in derivatives.

Literally nobody knows about that either because they're all too busy watching that dumbass MTV show with the West Virginia kids.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Literally nobody knows about that either because they're all too busy watching that dumbass MTV show with the West Virginia kids.

That, or they see the limp dicked penalty Barclays got and assume Barclays was properly sanctioned because the media doesn't report they manipulated $35,000,000,000,000 (people don't realize it till they see the zeros :lol) in derivatives. Manipulating LIBOR is something that should warrant being nationalized by the feds and people involved going to prison, and not a white collar resort, a federal pound-me-in-the-ass prison.

[Winehole23]

Pretty much, tbh.... there's still plenty of small businesses who aren't cronied up with the government, but big business certainly is, and the regulations that the left pushes for in the name of "fairness" ironically only make crony capitalism easier for all involved...same goes for regs pushed (or opposed) by the right in the name of "competitiveness," tbh

[RandomGuy]

Can't disagree, really.

The problem is that correcing these policies or putting new ones in place would require Republicans to go along.

Mitt Romney certainly wouldn't have done anything. That dude was a koolaid drinker through and through. 47% of the country are worthless bums in his mind, and helping them would have been, despite the crocodile tears, a very remote priority.

[boutons_deux]

"Mitt Romney certainly wouldn't have done anything."

He SAID he wanted to kill the financial regulations and CFPB. that's not exactly "anything"

[SA210]

Obama is able to put neocon policies on super fast track, because the millions of blind sheep that follow him question nothing. Policies that the right would never be able to get done as quickly. Example, murdering Americans without due process. Mitt, and the neocons are bad, but Obama gets shit done for them way quicker than they would be able to.

[boutons_deux]

Obama is able to put neocon policies on super fast track, because the millions of blind sheep that follow him question nothing. Policies that the right would never be able to get done as quickly. Example, murdering Americans without due process. Mitt, and the neocons are bad, but Obama gets shit done for them way quicker than they would be able to.

wow. When dubya/dickhead invaded Iraq for oil, millions of you right-wing sheeple said nothing.

Speed? dubya/dickhead said it was an absolute requirement to invade Iraq and it had to be done immediately, aka SPEEDILY, because they were going to run in a few months as the War White Whitehouse You Can Trust to Win The War! :lol

[DarrinS]

Can't disagree, really.

The problem is that correcing these policies or putting new ones in place would require Republicans to go along.

Mitt Romney certainly wouldn't have done anything. That dude was a koolaid drinker through and through. 47% of the country are worthless bums in his mind, and helping them would have been, despite the crocodile tears, a very remote priority.


There is a high percentage of worthless bumbs in the US. I don't know if its as high as 47%

[SA210]

wow. When dubya/dickhead invaded Iraq for oil, millions of you right-wing sheeple said nothing.



Boutons, for the millionth time, I'm not right wing. :lol You assume this because I call out Obama. Shall I bump my old bash Bush threads from many years ago?

Truth is the expansion of drones in more countries than even Bush, NDAA, murdering Americans, etc would have been under much more scrutiny under Bush than what's going on right now. If Mitt Romney or McCain wanted to murder Americans without due process, the media would halt all other fake news lol

[DMC]

The problem is that Americans have become worthless to themselves and anyone else. There are enough who think they're doing something good that they will argue with you about that, everyone thinks they are the exception. America has been like a fine instrument running in auto mode while Americans take extended vacations from the responsibility of actually giving a shit, and they won't return to work before it's too late and the instrument has destroyed itself and them. Then they will blame other Americans.

[ElNono]

The problem is that Americans have become worthless to themselves and anyone else. There are enough who think they're doing something good that they will argue with you about that, everyone thinks they are the exception. America has been like a fine instrument running in auto mode while Americans take extended vacations from the responsibility of actually giving a shit, and they won't return to work before it's too late and the instrument has destroyed itself and them. Then they will blame other Americans.

It's your fault, tbh

[Latarian Milton]

The problem is that Americans have become worthless to themselves and anyone else. There are enough who think they're doing something good that they will argue with you about that, everyone thinks they are the exception. America has been like a fine instrument running in auto mode while Americans take extended vacations from the responsibility of actually giving a shit, and they won't return to work before it's too late and the instrument has destroyed itself and them. Then they will blame other Americans.
tbh americans just feel upset about the changes that happened over the past 2 decades, through which the overflow of immigrants (no matter legal or not) have basically ruined what was at one time a paradise of prosperity and wealth. it's still the best country of the world but if you ask any american adult who had live in the 80s or early 90s america, they would rather go back and live in the old years if they can, despite not having iphones or nba 2k13. immigrants are like some unwelcome guests who're set to live in your home for a VERY long time, and when they get done trashing up your house, they're gone and will most likely go back to the countries they originally came from. shameless fucks come to the US for the welfare and freedom, they love the welfare and freedom this country gives them, but they don't love this country, at all

[Wild Cobra]

immigrants are like some unwelcome guests

Speak for yourself.

Only the illegal ones are unwelcome in my book.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Boutons, for the millionth time, I'm not right wing. :lol You assume this because I call out Obama. Shall I bump my old bash Bush threads from many years ago?


Plenty here have asked you countless times to provide examples of bashing Bush while he was president. All you end up doing is sanctimoniously bash him so you appear unbiased.

[Latarian Milton]

Speak for yourself.

Only the illegal ones are unwelcome in my book.

and you should be fine with Obama administration since he's been doing his utmost to grant illegal immigrants legal status. immigrants are just like your wife's cheapass relatives from the countryside who come to your home showing no intention to leavel until the whole place is trashed up. sorry to tell you the truth but im indeed not an immigrant tbqfh

[Wild Cobra]

and you should be fine with Obama administration since he's been doing his utmost to grant illegal immigrants legal status. immigrants are just like your wife's cheapass relatives from the countryside who come to your home showing no intention to leavel until the whole place is trashed up. sorry to tell you the truth but im indeed not an immigrant tbqfh
No.

I am against the measures of amnesty, and allowing them to jump in the front of the line of legal immigrants.

Their crimes should not be rewarded.

[DMC]

tbh americans just feel upset about the changes that happened over the past 2 decades, through which the overflow of immigrants (no matter legal or not) have basically ruined what was at one time a paradise of prosperity and wealth. it's still the best country of the world but if you ask any american adult who had live in the 80s or early 90s america, they would rather go back and live in the old years if they can, despite not having iphones or nba 2k13. immigrants are like some unwelcome guests who're set to live in your home for a VERY long time, and when they get done trashing up your house, they're gone and will most likely go back to the countries they originally came from. shameless fucks come to the US for the welfare and freedom, they love the welfare and freedom this country gives them, but they don't love this country, at all
Pure bullshit. Everyone's ancestors immigrated from somewhere and there's never been a time since first re-discovered by Columbus when there were no immigrants coming to this country. You're an immigrant yourself, just playing the hate game against your own people hoping to distance yourself in the eyes of forum people you'll never meet.

[Latarian Milton]

just like i said before, immigrants who're "legal" are in fact more harmful and dangerous than illegal aliens because:

1. most illegals are uneducated and an illegal immigrant won't expect much else from the society but a shitty menial job and minimum wage to sustain a frugal life, and the society needs the cheap labors to do those shitty jobs which no american wants to take; while "legal" immigrants will take your sons and daughters' jobs away more often than not (knowing the employers in general have a fetish for those immigrants because they're bilingual), leaving the new generation of young americans working at walmart and starbucks

2. legal immigrants are more likely to make an influence in the nation's politics, and broaden the road for even more foreigners to immigrate to the US, which is a vicious circle. today's native americans are becoming the "native americans" of the 18th century, who're about to lose their homelands to newer immigrants, and i believe most americans who were born and grew up in the US must have realized that something must be done to make sure that such egregious scenario won't come true

[DMC]

just like i said before, immigrants who're "legal" are in fact more harmful and dangerous than illegal aliens because:

1. most illegals are uneducated and an illegal immigrant won't expect much else from the society but a shitty menial job and minimum wage to sustain a frugal life, and the society needs the cheap labors to do those shitty jobs which no american wants to take; while "legal" immigrants will take your sons and daughters' jobs away more often than not (knowing the employers in general have a fetish for those immigrants because they're bilingual), leaving the new generation of young americans working at walmart and starbucks

2. legal immigrants are more likely to make an influence in the nation's politics, and broaden the road for even more foreigners to immigrate to the US, which is a vicious circle. today's native americans are becoming the "native americans" of the 18th century, who're about to lose their homelands to newer immigrants, and i believe most americans who were born and grew up in the US must have realized that something must be done to make sure that such egregious scenario won't come true

There's nothing harmful about being a productive member of society. Being on the fringe, trying to get by through illegal tactics, thievery, playing the system, that costs us billions. Paying taxes, voting, running in the 5K, running for public office, that's part of being an active member of a society.

You're backwards, not surprised though seeing how you people piss in your own food source and live 40 to a room.

[Wild Cobra]

just like i said before, immigrants who're "legal" are in fact more harmful and dangerous than illegal aliens because:

1. most illegals are uneducated and an illegal immigrant won't expect much else from the society but a shitty menial job and minimum wage to sustain a frugal life, and the society needs the cheap labors to do those shitty jobs which no american wants to take; while "legal" immigrants will take your sons and daughters' jobs away more often than not (knowing the employers in general have a fetish for those immigrants because they're bilingual), leaving the new generation of young americans working at walmart and starbucks

And this isn't a problem? taking low income jobs, increasing the labor pool of unskilled workers, keeping wages at minimum wage levels?

2. legal immigrants are more likely to make an influence in the nation's politics, and broaden the road for even more foreigners to immigrate to the US, which is a vicious circle.
And here I always thought they liked what we have over their nation, rather than wanting to change our system...

today's native americans are becoming the "native americans" of the 18th century, who're about to lose their homelands to newer immigrants, and i believe most americans who were born and grew up in the US must have realized that something must be done to make sure that such egregious scenario won't come true

Never crossed my mind. Never heard others speak of such things.

Who are these people? People like you? Ignorant children?

[Latarian Milton]

Pure bullshit. Everyone's ancestors immigrated from somewhere and there's never been a time since first re-discovered by Columbus when there were no immigrants coming to this country. You're an immigrant yourself, just playing the hate game against your own people hoping to distance yourself in the eyes of forum people you'll never meet.
everyone speaks on behalf of the side where his ass is at so it's no surprise you're such a pro-immigration bigot, like all the other immigrants who came to this country legally or illegally. america was completely uncivilized when the first immigrants came here from europe, and it was the white men and their black slaves who made the country what it is. if you sons of bitchse immigrate to antarctica and sub-saharan africa, places that are very similar to the 18th century america, then i'll probably show you some respect tbh. america was already the best country of the world by the time you shameless fucks immigrated, and i presume that when the country turns shit again due to the abusive immigration, you fucks will be gone

[DMC]

everyone speaks on behalf of the side where his ass is at so it's no surprise you're such a pro-immigration bigot, like all the other immigrants who came to this country legally or illegally. america was completely uncivilized when the first immigrants came here from europe, and it was the white men and their black slaves who made the country what it is. if you sons of bitchse immigrate to antarctica and sub-saharan africa, places that are very similar to the 18th century america, then i'll probably show you some respect tbh. america was already the best country of the world by the time you shameless fucks immigrated, and i presume that when the country turns shit again due to the abusive immigration, you fucks will be gone

My people were here before that, and your people came here to build railroads but they didn't get any love for it. There's no Chang Xiang railroad in the US. It's Northern Pacific or so. This country wasn't civil before about 1975.

[Latarian Milton]

And this isn't a problem? taking low income jobs, increasing the labor pool of unskilled workers, keeping wages at minimum wage levels?

And here I always thought they liked what we have over their nation, rather than wanting to change our system...

Never crossed my mind. Never heard others speak of such things.

Who are these people? People like you? Ignorant children?
you need cheap labors to do the shitty works and illegals just give you what you need. i guess you'd rather have some illegals get the shitty works done, than do those works by yourself with some "legal" immigrants being your boss and shitting over your head.

[Wild Cobra]

you need cheap labors to do the shitty works and illegals just give you what you need. i guess you'd rather have some illegals get the shitty works done, than do those works by yourself with some "legal" immigrants being your boss and shitting over your head.
No, I want the employment agencies to make unemployed people work, else lose their benefits.

[Latarian Milton]

No, I want the employment agencies to make unemployed people work, else lose their benefits.
there're always shitty works out there and if you don't want illegal immigrants to get them done, you have to do those works yourself or let your sons and daughters do those works because they struggle to find a job elsewhere when all these decent jobs have been legally stolen by those "legal" immigrants tbh

[Latarian Milton]

There's nothing harmful about being a productive member of society. Being on the fringe, trying to get by through illegal tactics, thievery, playing the system, that costs us billions. Paying taxes, voting, running in the 5K, running for public office, that's part of being an active member of a society.

You're backwards, not surprised though seeing how you people piss in your own food source and live 40 to a room.
i don't have no problem with inviting some elite foreigners into the US (arnold for example) but im pretty sure there ain't that many elites. "legal" immigrants take the decent jobs in US and pay taxes, but it doesn't generate any extra fiscal income for the government when nearly 50% local graduates are either unemployed or underemployed. those working opportunities could've been preserved for the local students whose parents have been paying taxes to the government their entire lives, and they should've also been proudly making contributions to their country like their parents do but for the "legal" immigrants

[Wild Cobra]

i don't have no problem with inviting some elite foreigners into the US (arnold for example) but im pretty sure there ain't that many elites. "legal" immigrants take the decent jobs in US and pay taxes, but it doesn't generate any extra fiscal income for the government when nearly 50% local graduates are either unemployed or underemployed. those working opportunities could've been preserved for the local students whose parents have been paying taxes to the government their entire lives, and they should've also been proudly making contributions to their country like their parents do but for the "legal" immigrants
My God, you have that backwards.

It's the better educated ones who complement our society. Wealth is not static, but dynamic. A person who is a productive tax payer is not a burden, but adds to the economy. Those who undercut the jobs of others at the bottom end increase the subsidies we have to pay the non working poor.

Besides, that's why we have annual limitations on immigration. This keeps the job markets from being flooded with labor, and hurting the supply and demand economics. The unregulated illegal immigration hurts the supply and demand balance.

[Latarian Milton]

plus, if you believe everyone deserves an equal chance, you should donate everything you have back to the society before your demise instead of bequeathing your house and money to your children, because the kids who grew up in poor households also deserve a equal chance. and if you don't, why would you want to give every foreigner an equal chance to compete against americans?

[Wild Cobra]

plus, if you believe everyone deserves an equal chance, you should donate everything you have back to the society before your demise instead of bequeathing your house and money to your children, because the kids who grew up in poor households also deserve a equal chance. and if you don't, why would you want to give every foreigner an equal chance to compete against americans?
You lost me with that communist rhetoric.

[Latarian Milton]

My God, you have that backwards.

It's the better educated ones who complement our society. Wealth is not static, but dynamic. A person who is a productive tax payer is not a burden, but adds to the economy. Those who undercut the jobs of others at the bottom end increase the subsidies we have to pay the non working poor.

Besides, that's why we have annual limitations on immigration. This keeps the job markets from being flooded with labor, and hurting the supply and demand economics. The unregulated illegal immigration hurts the supply and demand balance.
but your limitations on immigration obviously failed to work when there's already a conspicuous surplus of labor in the job market, and most of the unemployed youngsters are LOCAL students. illegals can always find some shitty works here and there because they need the minimum wages to subsist, but do you really want your own children to work with wetbacks at those deadend shitty jobs? if a foreign student finds it hard to get a job in america he'll then fly back where he came from, but where do you want the americans lads to go when all those decent working opportunities have been eaten up by "legal" immigrants?

and you're legitimately fooling yourself if you think wealth can be conjured up out of nothing. the size of economy is limited so that if you occupy all these decent jobs with foreign elites, american youngsters are gonna get stuck in shitty jobs and their future will be diminished. america can't offer an equal opportunity to everyone in the world because there're about 7 billion people living on this planet and only 350m of them are americans even with immigrants included, and i can guarantee you that 90% of them would want to live in the US. say if there're only 10 jobs left in america, 9.5 of them will end up in the hands of immigrants if you give them equal chances tbh

[Vladimir Lenin]

You lost me with that communist rhetoric.:lmao

[RandomGuy]

There is a high percentage of worthless bumbs in the US. I don't know if its as high as 47%

I don't disagree that there are useless oxygen thieves, but they are fewer and farther between than is commonly held in conservative mythology.

Your problem is that you assume guilty before proven innocent.

Poor=worthless human being

This is one of the basic underpinnings of conservative mythology that drives your worldview, whether you want to own up to it or not. You people really suck at examining your underlying assumptions or even being aware that you have them, so I dont' see that as changing.

Listen to any conservative rhetoric and read between the lines. Nevermind that poverty in the US is far stickier, and we have far less "socialism" than other countries, that bit of evidence that doesn't support the view that (poor=moral failing= worthless) is readily ignored.

The free market is not God. You shouldn't hold it out as some infallible diety, yet you all do. pfft.

[TeyshaBlue]

Ummm......

[Winehole23]

There is a high percentage of worthless bums in the US. I don't know if its as high as 47%Law of the land says you can't treat em like worthless bums and other people might have scruples about that, not that you would care.

[Capt Bringdown]

Interesting Greenwald piece on the disgusting Obama sycophancy and deference going on at MSNBC:

MSNBC boldly moves to plug its one remaining hole (http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/feb/19/msnbc-axelrod-gibbs-obama)
By hiring long-time Obama spokesmen Robert Gibbs and David Axelrod, the cable news network clarifies its function
-- more --> (http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/feb/19/msnbc-axelrod-gibbs-obama)

[BobaFett1]

Interesting Greenwald piece on the disgusting Obama sycophancy and deference going on at MSNBC:

MSNBC boldly moves to plug its one remaining hole (http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/feb/19/msnbc-axelrod-gibbs-obama)
By hiring long-time Obama spokesmen Robert Gibbs and David Axelrod, the cable news network clarifies its function
-- more --> (http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/feb/19/msnbc-axelrod-gibbs-obama)

Leftist network.

[Winehole23]

The Guardian? What about the Tory Telegraph?

In Europe there's a broadsheet for every political stripe.by contrast, the tabloidization (and perhaps i should say re-tabloidization) of the American media is in its infancy.

In the old world, it is already in full swing.

[Winehole23]

and however that may be, propositional truth bears no strict relation to its emcee.

[Capt Bringdown]

Leftist network.

Obama and the New Democrats are not Left in any meaningful sense. But MSNBC is all-in for the Democrats, without doubt.

[SA210]

Interesting Greenwald piece on the disgusting Obama sycophancy and deference going on at MSNBC:

MSNBC boldly moves to plug its one remaining hole (http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/feb/19/msnbc-axelrod-gibbs-obama)
By hiring long-time Obama spokesmen Robert Gibbs and David Axelrod, the cable news network clarifies its function
-- more --> (http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/feb/19/msnbc-axelrod-gibbs-obama)


Exactly. Gibbs is the scumbag that said we killed an innocent 16 year old American boy without due process simply because they didn't like his father. Even Scarborough was livid about this just days before they hired Gibbs, and then he appears on Scarboroughs show and we haven't heard a peep since on the subject of the 16 year old :lol

[Capt Bringdown]

The Obama Era:
Liberal Fascism in America (http://www.counterpunch.org/2013/02/20/liberal-fascism-in-america/)

Liberal fascism is an elusive historical formation; instead of goosestepping automatons, gas chambers, Stuka dive bombers, the bombastic Leader, all is normality on display, although, to be sure, some traces of the nonliberal variety of fascism remain.

For goosesteppers substitute the seemingly more innocuous militarization of the total culture, under constant reinforcement, with Second-Amendment gun-rights zealots rubbing their hardware in our noses.

For gas chambers substitute the structural reinforcement of gun violence, incarceration of an underclass, surveillance—admittedly far less painful, but expeditious in its social-control consequences.

For the Stukas, we actually go one better, with armed drones for targeted assassination, directed to terrorizing, as did the Stukas along with the closer analogue, buzz bombs, whole populations.

And for the bombastic Leader, we have the reformer manque, blithely at work in planning and executing assassination, smiling all the while and, now, advertising his “Fireplace Hangouts” in a phony effort to imitate FDR’s Fireside Chats.

Obama can begin from where the long-term formation of a dissipative consciousness leaves off, extolling “change” as the formula for acquiescence—submission to authority, war, assassination, bank bailouts, military budgets, false either-or alternatives in social policy, whatever it takes to keep the ship of, not state, but monopoly capitalism, on course. Why liberal? Because rhetoric trumps reality, and the attachment of leader and led is bound up in an apolitical moral vacuum, affecting each, altogether resistant to critical thinking and analysis.

Yet more, liberalism has itself demonstrated its bankruptcy, as when, for example, a majority of the American people support the armed drone program. Assassination is cost-effective in protecting America from the Nefarious Other.

Whether we had created the conditions of international hostility to the US, is unthinkable. Better to plod ahead. Draw together in classless harmony. Celebrate America as the Land of Opportunity, as societal dislocation proceeds apace, whether unemployment, foreclosures, renditions, torture, nonregulation, crumbling infrastructure, gun rampages, or presidential unctiousness papering over war crimes, wealth concentration, and destruction of the environment.

-- more -->> (http://www.counterpunch.org/2013/02/20/liberal-fascism-in-america/)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/bf/ItCantHappenHere.jpg

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Equating political opposition to the Nazi's. How novel.

--LOVE THE PUN--

[TDMVPDPOY]

didnt bush inherited a surplus, then somehow made it the biggest deficit

[boutons_deux]

didnt bush inherited a surplus, then somehow made it the biggest deficit

dubya triple the deficit, St Ronnie doubled it.

[Wild Cobra]

didnt bush inherited a surplus, then somehow made it the biggest deficit
No, but that is the liberal rumor.

[boutons_deux]

No, but that is the liberal rumor.

You Lie

the dotcom bubble and huge increase in jobs created under Clinton (jobs = spending and tax revenue) crashed just as extreme right wing SCOTUS voted in dubya and dickhead. dickhead was obsessed with repeating, before he took office, "the economy is gonna suck" so as to make sure dubya and he didn't get blamed.

For the first time ever, dubya and dickhead started a war without raising taxes to pay for it. Deficit exploded, even as they tricked the accounting to keep the war off the books.

[Nbadan]

For the first time ever, dubya and dickhead started a war without raising taxes to pay for it. Deficit exploded, even as they tricked the accounting to keep the war off the books.

Don't forget Medicare Part D and tax cuts...all that plus a global war...on our kids credit card...Conservatives sure didn't seem to care to much about the budget then...

[Nbadan]

Not quite a disaster...

http://upload.democraticunderground.com/imgs/2013/130221-new-poll-president-obama-beating-republicans-almost-everywhere.jpg

[Vladimir Lenin]

Not quite a disaster...

http://upload.democraticunderground.com/imgs/2013/130221-new-poll-president-obama-beating-republicans-almost-everywhere.jpg



Nice slanted article comrade.

[Capt Bringdown]

Not quite a disaster...

http://upload.democraticunderground.com/imgs/2013/130221-new-poll-president-obama-beating-republicans-almost-everywhere.jpg

Quite:

White House Wants Everyone to Know Obama Supports Cutting Social Security Benefits (http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2013/02/22/white-house-wants-everyone-to-know-obama-supports-cutting-social-security-benefits/)
Obama wasn’t forced to reluctantly accept cutting Social Security by Republicans. It is something Obama has always wanted to do and he is actively trying to use it to entice Republicans to support a grand bargain.

The primary thing that has protected your Social Security benefits from being cut under Obama has been House Republicans unwillingness to accept any tax increases.
- more -> (http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2013/02/22/white-house-wants-everyone-to-know-obama-supports-cutting-social-security-benefits/)

[z0sa]

Not quite a disaster...

http://upload.democraticunderground.com/imgs/2013/130221-new-poll-president-obama-beating-republicans-almost-everywhere.jpg

Not quite honest, either. Particularly fixing the deficit.

[boutons_deux]

Not quite a disaster...

http://upload.democraticunderground.com/imgs/2013/130221-new-poll-president-obama-beating-republicans-almost-everywhere.jpg

Economy?

Jobs?

These are the two priorities for Americans in nearly all polls, but nobody in DC are prioritizing the REAL concerns of most Americans. DC can hear or see past the Beltway or Wall St.