Rachel Maddow: Iraq WMD Fraud Exposé Will Cause “Political Upset”

[boutons_deux]

Rachel Maddow is looking to ruffle feathers, going where Obama or Congress wouldn’t dare to tread, in publicizing the “deceptions” of the Bush Iraq Team which launched a long and costly war.


Because of a ten year mainstream media whitewash, it’s been generally accepted that “mistakes” resulted in a war that claimed over 4,800 US troops. But this week, MSNBC will rock the boat, suggesting false pretenses took us to war, meaning the nation should start debating consequences.


Rachel Maddow is teasing there will be great “political upset” when the documentary Hubris: The Selling of The Iraq War airs on Monday Feb. 18.


If proven deliberate, the Iraq WMD intel debacle could constitute domestic and international war crimes. Someone must have had a long fight behind the scenes to get this controversy on the air because most of the facts have been readily available for years through indie media, articles (and even in drips and drabs on MSNBC). A book version of Hubris was co-authored by David Corn and Michael Isikoff in 2007.


Perhaps most striking is the way most media has ignored Colonel Lawrence Wilkerson, a top level Bush administration insider who has offered to testify directly against Dick Cheney and others. So what actionable allegations will Maddow present?


Plamegate was just one WMD related scandal resulting in conviction. Scooter Libby lied to investigators, taking the fall for Vice President Cheney before receiving a pardon from President Bush. But that story is old, so what’s new, what’s different?


http://my.firedoglake.com/amerigus/2013/02/17/rachel-maddow-iraq-wmd-fraud-expose-will-cause-political-upset/#comments

[Wild Cobra]

So...

How many people are going to catch this madcow disease?

[admiralsnackbar]

So...

How many people are going to catch this madcow disease?
Nothing like a lame pun to discredit a Rhodes scholar. As big a lefty as she is ideologically, she's a pretty damn good and uncommonly honest investigative journalist. Whether the same can be said for the documentary she's plugging remains to be seen, I guess.

[Wild Cobra]

Nothing like a lame pun to discredit a Rhodes scholar. As big a lefty as she is ideologically, she's a pretty damn good and uncommonly honest investigative journalist. Whether the same can be said for the documentary she's plugging remains to be seen, I guess.
I'm sorry, but if you think she's honest...

Mancow...

You have it bad for her...

[admiralsnackbar]

I'm sorry, but if you think she's honest...

Mancow...

You have it bad for her...

Hurk hurk hurk...

[Th'Pusher]

I'm sorry, but if you think she's honest...

Mancow...

You have it bad for her...
Provide a specific example of Rachel Maddow being dishonest.

[boutons_deux]

WC's ideologies and policies and politicians get bitch slapped every night by RM, so she's "dishonest".

[TeyshaBlue]

herp derp!.

[SA210]

Maddow is one of the VERY few I can stomach on msm tv. She is very good, problem is she didn't do much drone stories, NDAA, etc during election time when it really mattered, and she hardly speaks on those issues when she is on someone else's panel when they are talking Obama up as some kind of hero. Does a great story, then fades away. Be consistent. Not politically convenient. But yes she can be very good sometimes. After what MSNBC did to Cenk Uyger, I guess she has to hold back.

[DarrinS]

I'm glad Rachel is doing this "exposé". Fresh material. From the network played a 20-minute loop of Marco Rubio drinking bottled water, a.k.a. "watergate", I expect fair and objective reporting.


Seriously, hasn't this been covered?

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/bushswar/
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/darkside/

[admiralsnackbar]

After what MSNBC did to Cenk Uyger, I guess she has to hold back. This is pretty much it. Since Fox News is MSNBC's business model, it shouldn't be surprising that they put the gag on narratives that make Democrats look bad -- particularly at election time.

[admiralsnackbar]

I'm glad Rachel is doing this "exposé".


She's not -- it's somebody else's film/book.

[boutons_deux]

she's exposing the exposé

Cheney in Chains will make a great hit song!

[TeyshaBlue]

she's exposing the exposé


Sung to the tune "Chain of Fools" no doubt.:lol

[DarrinS]

She's not -- it's somebody else's film/book.


Fair enough -- just pointing out that this is a fairly worn path.

[admiralsnackbar]

Fair enough -- just pointing out that this is a fairly worn path.

No argument here. If there is actual, damning proof of the administration's dishonesty in making the case for the war as opposed to the persuasive-but-unsubstantiated suspicions we're accustomed to, however, it will be pretty news-worthy, and it will turn Washington into as big a partisan grudge-match as we're likely to see in our lifetimes.

[admiralsnackbar]

I'm hoping Elizabeth Warren is able to do something similar to Obama/Geithner's likely collusion with Wall St. banks and insurers... woman has more balls than the rest of the Senate put together.

[SA210]

I'm hoping Elizabeth Warren is able to do something similar to Obama/Geithner's likely collusion with Wall St. banks and insurers... woman has more balls than the rest of the Senate put together.

I hope so too

[boutons_deux]

Fair enough -- just pointing out that this is a fairly worn path.

not by the MSM or DC. They all have vested interest in maintaining the huge LIE that The Establishment Corporatocracy is infallible, to be trusted implicitly, is good for ALL of us.

[sjacquemotte]

Nothing like a lame pun to discredit a Rhodes scholar. As big a lefty as she is ideologically, she's a pretty damn good and uncommonly honest investigative journalist. Whether the same can be said for the documentary she's plugging remains to be seen, I guess.
This isn't honesty. This trying to bring something up that takes away from all Obama is doing wrong. Whatever keeps her from reporting about the economy, gitmo, eroding rights of Americans, drones, spending, and anything else she attacked bush for but is giving bho a pass on.

[admiralsnackbar]

This isn't honesty. This trying to bring something up that takes away from all Obama is doing wrong. Whatever keeps her from reporting about the economy, gitmo, eroding rights of Americans, drones, spending, and anything else she attacked bush for but is giving bho a pass on.

If you think you can depend on one news source to tell you everything you need to know, you're being dishonest with yourself -- the world is bigger and more complicated than that, and I expect you know it. We've already discussed that she isn't able to run all her stories, and the conditions which restrict her work, but those stories she does run are better-sourced than any other broadcast TV journalism I can think of. Are there more journalists to read? When aren't there?

[boutons_deux]

This isn't honesty. This trying to bring something up that takes away from all Obama is doing wrong. Whatever keeps her from reporting about the economy, gitmo, eroding rights of Americans, drones, spending, and anything else she attacked bush for but is giving bho a pass on.

RM has been HARD on Barry for the drone murder business.

[SA210]

RM has been HARD on Barry for the drone murder business.


Every now and again

[ChumpDumper]

This isn't honesty. This trying to bring something up that takes away from all Obama is doing wrong. Whatever keeps her from reporting about the economy, gitmo, eroding rights of Americans, drones, spending, and anything else she attacked bush for but is giving bho a pass on.Do you watch her every night?

That's the only way you can possibly make an argument about what she is NOT reporting.

[Th'Pusher]

This isn't honesty. This trying to bring something up that takes away from all Obama is doing wrong. Whatever keeps her from reporting about the economy, gitmo, eroding rights of Americans, drones, spending, and anything else she attacked bush for but is giving bho a pass on.
Dude. You consume the fucking blaze.

[Viva Las Espuelas]

Nice to see Wesley Crusher still on the air.

[Wild Cobra]

Provide a specific example of Rachel Maddow being dishonest.
I have pointed out specific things in the past. I'm not going to look them up again.

[ChumpDumper]

I have pointed out specific things in the past. I'm not going to look them up again.Actually you just said that and hoped no one would notice you never had really done it.

[Wild Cobra]

Actually you just said that and hoped no one would notice you never had really done it.
Bullshit.

I have shown cases of her reporting incorrect in the past. I simply have better things to do with my time.

[ChumpDumper]

Bullshit.

I have shown cases of her reporting incorrect in the past. I simply have better things to do with my time.Like what?

Posting over and over again that you have better things to do?

I'm sure it's a very quick search on this site. Humor us.

[mouse]

I would like to hear from Wild Cobra what it is about Rachel Maddow he doesn't like before I can post a proper response.

He is usually open minded so I am curious.

[boutons_deux]

He is usually open minded

:lol

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Bullshit.

I have shown cases of her reporting incorrect in the past. I simply have better things to do with my time.

No, you haven't and we all know that in times when a search is available to find your shit you do so. That normally backfires as we review what was said then as well but that is a different story.

You can sit there in your little girl world and play pretend that you have specifics but in big bog world we don't take your bullshit on an assertion.

[Agloco]

WC is usually open minded so I am curious.

<rimshot>

[Latarian Milton]

iraq WMD ain't no fraud imho, towelheads even used that shit in the iraq-iran war if i remember correct. just because they were totally destroyed by US airforce before the ground troops arrived it doesn't mean they never existed imho

[Wild Cobra]

iraq WMD ain't no fraud imho, towelheads even used that shit in the iraq-iran war if i remember correct. just because they were totally destroyed by US airforce before the ground troops arrived it doesn't mean they never existed imho
If you look at the black and white of the legal reasons, Saddam did not comply with the UN agreements he signed, in which we agreed to stop, during Desert Storm. That alone gave us all the reason we needed to go in.

Any of you actually in that theater of operation during Desert Storm? I was in communications repair, and we were part of the real deal. I will ask that unless you were at least partially involved, shut the fuck up, because you don't know shit.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Violating UN agreements does not mean we just get to declare war. The security council certainly did not sign off on it. It was a unilateral action.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3661134.stm

Kofi Annan at the time said it was illegal according to the UN charter.

You really should not talk to others about not knowing shit. Invoking the UN as justification for the invasion of Iraq is what is ignorant.

[admiralsnackbar]

If you look at the black and white of the legal reasons, Saddam did not comply with the UN agreements he signed, in which we agreed to stop, during Desert Storm. That alone gave us all the reason we needed to go in.

Any of you actually in that theater of operation during Desert Storm? I was in communications repair, and we were part of the real deal. I will ask that unless you were at least partially involved, shut the fuck up, because you don't know shit.

Unless you were a General or Sec. of State in addition to your com. tech duties, you don't know shit about what actually happened either -- Saddam may have broken his UN agreements, but that would make him far from unique. The UN favored sanctions to military action, and even AFTER the worldwide support for the US following 9/11, even AFTER Powell's case for war, it took all manner of cajoling to persuade minor UN players to build the "coalition of the willing" because half of our NATO buddies told us to eat a dick after UN inspectors found no evidence of WMDs. This was just 10 years ago... shouldn't be so hard to recollect.

Nobody's disrespecting your service, man, but nobody's talking about Desert Storm, either. They were totally different wars fought under totally different pretenses.

[Wild Cobra]

Violating UN agreements does not mean we just get to declare war. The security council certainly did not sign off on it. It was a unilateral action.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3661134.stm

Kofi Annan at the time said it was illegal according to the UN charter.

You really should not talk to others about not knowing shit. Invoking the UN as justification for the invasion of Iraq is what is ignorant.
I don't give a rat's ass who's ass you wish to quote. In my opinion, we had every right to go in, and if you think the UN is our mommy or daddy...

[Wild Cobra]

Unless you were a General or Sec. of State in addition to your com. tech duties, you don't know shit about what actually happened either -- Saddam may have broken his UN agreements, but that would make him far from unique. The UN favored sanctions to military action, and even AFTER the worldwide support for the US following 9/11, even AFTER Powell's case for war, it took all manner of cajoling to persuade minor UN players to build the "coalition of the willing" because half of our NATO buddies told us to eat a dick after UN inspectors found no evidence of WMDs. This was just 10 years ago... shouldn't be so hard to recollect.

Nobody's disrespecting your service, man, but nobody's talking about Desert Storm, either. They were totally different wars fought under totally different pretenses.
Say what you wish. I'll bet where I was at, I knew more than most.

[admiralsnackbar]

Say what you wish. I'll bet where I was at, I knew more than most.
About the war we aren't talking about, yeah.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I don't give a rat's ass who's ass you wish to quote. In my opinion, we had every right to go in, and if you think the UN is our mommy or daddy...

You cited a legal basis and then mentioned the Un for said legal basis asserting that the noncompliance to a resolution was the justification.

Not only did the resolution not grant use of force for noncompliance but the Secretary General himself stated it was an illegal action.

Ans snackster is right on. Germany and France told us they did not support our action. IOW the international community did not support it nor did the majority of our NATO allies.

Now you say that the UN has no authority. Well no shit but all that does is further discredit your position of a legal basis.

You cannot even keep up with your own nonsense.

[Wild Cobra]

Don't cry fuzzy. I know it's hard to comprehend. We were not bound by what the UN says or thinks.

[BobaFett1]

Nothing like a lame pun to discredit a Rhodes scholar. As big a lefty as she is ideologically, she's a pretty damn good and uncommonly honest investigative journalist. Whether the same can be said for the documentary she's plugging remains to be seen, I guess.

So will madcow look into Obama unjust war in Libya?

[BobaFett1]

iraq WMD ain't no fraud imho, towelheads even used that shit in the iraq-iran war if i remember correct. just because they were totally destroyed by US airforce before the ground troops arrived it doesn't mean they never existed imho


Man Latarian Milton THE LEFT SURE GAVE oBUMMER A pass for Fast and Furious.

[boutons_deux]

When Maddow rapes the Repugs for lying US into wasting 5000 US military lives and a few $T, the right-wing trolls swarm like maggots out of a dead rat.

[BobaFett1]

When Maddow rapes the Repugs for lying US into wasting 5000 US military lives and a few $T, the right-wing trolls swarm like maggots out of a dead rat.

So what about Obama getting us in fast and furious and getting a man killed in Libya? Both sides are crooks.

[boutons_deux]

So what about Obama getting us in fast and furious and getting a man killed in Libya? Both sides are crooks.

False equivalence. F&F = Iraq war for oil :lol

Barry didn't lie US in to F&F, and was probably not aware of it at all.

y'all got NOTHING but fucking Fox Repug Propaganda talking points.

[SA210]

So will maddow look into Obama unjust war in Libya?


I've been waiting too

[BobaFett1]

False equivalence. F&F = Iraq war for oil :lol

Barry didn't lie US in to F&F, and was probably not aware of it at all.

y'all got NOTHING but fucking Fox Repug Propaganda talking points.

44 Minutes Ago #48
boutons_deux if you think Barry knew nothing about f@f or Stevens getting ambushed in Libya you are driking the kool aid. I am NOT a fan of either party. Not the jackass or the elephant.

[admiralsnackbar]

So will madcow look into Obama unjust war in Libya?

As covered above, I wouldn't hold my breath as long as she's on MSNBC.

That said... are you fucking serious? Comparing the cock-up in Libya to the shit tsunami of Iraq is like comparing a zit to Mt. Vesuvius, man.

[BobaFett1]

Fast and Furious was a bad thing and I love how Barry swept it under the rug. Holder got a pardon anyway if he ratted out his boss.

[SA210]

As covered above, I wouldn't hold my breath as long as she's on MSNBC.

That said... are you fucking serious? Comparing the cock-up in Libya to the shit tsunami of Iraq is like comparing a zit to Mt. Vesuvius, man.


It should still be covered and scrutinized, tbh. Obama did run on ending those types of war policies. War crimes are war crimes, just saying.

[BobaFett1]

It should still be covered and scrutinized, tbh. Obama did run on ending those types of war policies. War crimes are war crimes, just saying.

Man we never comitted war crimes...........I know some leftist want to say Us is bad. I say go to North Korea to find out bad.

[SA210]

Man we never comitted war crimes...........I know some leftist want to say Us is bad. I say go to North Korea to find out bad.


We are supposed to be better than bombing countries we are not at war with. Obama running aganst such policies, then doing a complete turnaround and then EXPANDING them instead, should be highly scrutinized all over the tv on the msm, and should have been during the election too. They are war crimes, we are bombing countries we have peace treaties with, killing babies and innocents with no declaration of war and even assassinating Americans now with no charges or due process. That's even going beyond Bush.

[BobaFett1]

We are supposed to be better than bombing countries we are not at war with. Obama running aganst such policies, then doing a complete turnaround and then EXPANDING them instead, should be highly scrutinized all over the tv on the msm, and should have been during the election too. They are war crimes, we are bombing countries we have peace treaties with, killing babies and innocents with no declaration of war and even assassinating Americans now with no charges or due process. That's even going beyond Bush.

What Americans have been killed without due process? If they are terrorist they deserve no due process.

[admiralsnackbar]

...And now with the Fast and Furious? If both sides are crooks, why are you bringing up partisan bullshit like this? I agree F&F is dodgy as hell and deserves an actual criminal investigation instead of a roomful of bloated senatorial nitwits in Brooks Brothers suits asking empty questions to arrive at nothing material. And why stop there? Obamacare and the fucking post-TARP Obama giveaways are almost certainly at the very least negligent if not epically criminal orgies of cronyism. Even so, there's still no comparison between any of that and a war that potentially killed 100,000+ (vastly more if you count the ensuing civil wars) people illegally while bankrupting both nations.

Take off the partisan goggles and be an American for a minute -- if there's proof that the war was premeditated and arrived at by deception, the people responsible have dishonored us all and made us all suffer. Who cares what fucking party they belonged to?

[admiralsnackbar]

What Americans have been killed without due process? If they are terrorist they deserve no due process.


One day the last portrait of Rembrandt and the last bar of Mozart will have ceased to be — though possibly a colored canvas and a sheet of notes will remain — because the last eye and the last ear accessible to their message will have gone.

[BobaFett1]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xEf4x5ULrEc

[SA210]

What Americans have been killed without due process? If they are terrorist they deserve no due process.


The Constitution disagrees, ALL Americans are afforded due process, regardless of your feelings toward them. And regardless of what the lying White House tells us. They have not provided proof that these AMERICANS were terrorists or planning to attack us, they refuse to show proof.

Link: http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=209087 (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=209087)



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgyze77O0j8


And the worst one was the 16 year old from Colorado that was NEVER accused of ANY crime at all, simply killed because they didn't like his father. They killed him in a non combat zone eating dinner with his cousins. No crime, never accused of a crime, and definitely not any kind of threat, especially not imminent.

Link: http://screechingkettle.blogspot.com/2012/10/a-boy-named-adam.html (http://screechingkettle.blogspot.com/2012/10/a-boy-named-adam.html)



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MwB2znBZ1g


Obama is a mass murderer, a war criminal, has committed treason, and belongs on trial, impeached, and should be on his way to prison, same as Bush and Cheney.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

What Americans have been killed without due process? If they are terrorist they deserve no due process.

So basically you're saying the government gets to circumvent due process by labeling anyone they please as a terrorist?

[BobaFett1]

The Constitution disagrees, ALL Americans are afforded due process, regardless of your feelings toward them. And regardless of what the lying White House tells us. They have not provided proof that these AMERICANS were terrorists or planning to attack us, they refuse to show proof.

Link: http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=209087 (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=209087)

Gibbs what a paid liar.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgyze77O0j8


And the worst one was the 16 year old from Colorado that was NEVER accused of ANY crime at all, simply killed because they didn't like his father. They killed him in a non combat zone eating dinner with his cousins. No crime, never accused of a crime, and definitely not any kind of threat, especially not imminent.

Link: http://screechingkettle.blogspot.com/2012/10/a-boy-named-adam.html (http://screechingkettle.blogspot.com/2012/10/a-boy-named-adam.html)



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MwB2znBZ1g


Obama is a mass murderer, a war criminal, has committed treason, and belongs on trial, impeached, and should be on his way to prison, same as Bush and Cheney.

[BobaFett1]

So basically you're saying the government gets to circumvent due process by labeling anyone they please as a terrorist?


If you in another country aiding the enemy and a American you lost your dam rights.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

If you in another country aiding the enemy and a American you lost your dam rights.

Where in the constitution does it grant this exception to due process?

[BobaFett1]

[QUOTE=DUNCANownsKOBE;6370002]Where in the constitution does it grant this exception to due process



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFIZQTM8r0k

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Solid counterargument. A Tech N9ne song :tu

[SA210]

If you in another country aiding the enemy and a American you lost your dam rights.


What did the 16 year old American boy do wrong? I'd like to see the proof or even the accusation. Besides the one Gibbs gave that he should have had a better father.

Remember, it was a separate attack 2 weeks later after his American father was murdered without due process.


Rand Paul would like to know about the 16 year old too. Go to the 7:30 mark


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5ECfPGiDy8




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pOUFHTN1G4

[BobaFett1]

Solid counterargument. A Tech N9ne song :tu

In all seriousness I agree rights need to be protected. Madcow is not a credible source to do it.

[ChumpDumper]

In all seriousness I agree rights need to be protected. Madcow is not a credible source to do it.Why do you not find her credible?

[Blake]

Can anyone name the last president that hasn't committed this type of mass murder?

[clambake]

Why do you not find her credible?

cuz she's not on fox, silly.

[SA210]

In case you missed it last night, here is the documentary Hubris. You can watch it on MSNBC's site

http://tv.msnbc.com/2013/02/19/watch-hubris-documentary/

[boutons_deux]

"If you look at the black and white of the legal reasons, Saddam did not comply with the UN agreements he signed, in which we agreed to stop, during Desert Storm. That alone gave us all the reason we needed to go in."

If that were sufficient, why did dubya/dickhead/rummy/perle/connie have to tell lies about yellowcake, mobile weapons labs, aluminum tubes, curveball, Saddam-AQ?

"Saddam did not comply with the UN agreements"

which justified punishing him with 5000 dead US military and US $Ts wasted?

[SA210]

Was just able to finish watching it. Fucking murderous scumbags. And yet we have a President who continues the murderous policies expanding it to killing Americans citizens, and then protecting these assholes from what they did as well. People need to start getting real and let go of their loyalty to corrupt parties.

[Latarian Milton]

you can't find an evidence to justifiy the war because it was indeed a blunder and the government didn't expect in the first place that the war would've lasted that long and cost that much. you have every right to impugn their initial motives but it doesn't make much sense to blame anyone when the war is already done tbh.

i never support any war because shit would cost big and it's all taxpayer money, not because i think it's a sin or guilt to kill so many "innocent" iraqis or to overturn a government that didn't seem to have any WMD. i bet there were more iraqis killed by saddam during his dictatorship that lasted 3 decades something, than those who lost their lives in the iraq war started 2003. saddam's government had been funding those terrorist organizations like taliban and hamas, and you can't ensure there wouldn't have been another 9/11 attack in the past decade with saddam staying in power.

[spursncowboys]

In all seriousness I agree rights need to be protected. Madcow is not a credible source to do it.
You realize you're debating with a 23 yr old kid who's never had a job, paid taxes, or mowed a lawn right?

[boutons_deux]

it was indeed a blunder

:lol bullshit. dickhead/rummy/perle/connie/feith/etc KNEW EXACTLY what they were doing, GOING AFTER THE OIL.

[mouse]

Can anyone name the last president that hasn't committed this type of mass murder?

Al Gore

[mouse]

:lol

I debated him about Evolution he was maybe the only one who actually took my evidence serious and commented on him not having all the facts.

So keep that in mind next time you all decide to cyber rape Wild Cobra like he's Jody Foster in the movie The Accused.

CMM2nnRLkl4

[BobaFett1]

cuz she's not on fox, silly.

No just she lets her bias show.

[BobaFett1]

You realize you're debating with a 23 yr old kid who's never had a job, paid taxes, or mowed a lawn right?

Obama generation.

[ChumpDumper]

No just she lets her bias show.So no examples at all, just bullshit.

[mouse]

No just she lets her bias show.




Something Fox has never done.

[SA210]

It's mostly all propaganda, tbh.

Fox, CNN, MSNBC, etc. Every now and again there will be a decent story, for the most part they all suck, pure propaganda. They aren't news, they are a business funded by corrupt bastards.

[SA210]

Example


Pathetic Media Outraged Over Obama Golf Secrecy, But Not Drone Assassinations (http://www.activistpost.com/2013/02/pathetic-media-outraged-over-obama-golf.html)


Youtube - TYT (http://youtu.be/Dw4UKvGogdQ)


The White House Press Corps is finally standing up to the president on his transparency...over a golf game with Tiger Woods. What about real news?



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dw4UKvGogdQ

:lmao when Cenk says to the msm, "You suck at your jobs!"

[Wild Cobra]

People like to pretend everything is OK.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

:lol sean Jacquemotte making more stuff up about me
:lol can't get me out of his tiny little war-obsessed head
:lol zionist mercenary
:lol can't talk shit to me anymore about college or the job I have, so he's resorted to wind-shield wiper smack

[sjacquemotte]

:violin

[boutons_deux]

The United States of Aftermath
The roots of the Iraq war trace back to the founding in 1997 of a Washington DC think-tank called The Project for a New American Century (PNAC).

The core mission of PNAC was to establish what they called "Pax Americana" across the globe. Essentially, their goal was to transform America, the sole remaining superpower, into a planetary empire by force of arms. A report released by PNAC in September of 2000 entitled "Rebuilding America's Defenses" codified this plan. Author Norman Podhoretz, a PNAC signatory, quantified the other aspect of the PNAC plan in the September 2002 issue of his journal, "Commentary." In it, Podhoretz noted that the Mideast regimes "that richly deserve to be overthrown and replaced, are not confined to the three singled-out members of the axis of evil. At a minimum, the axis should extend to Syria and Lebanon and Libya, as well as 'friends' of America like the Saudi royal family and Egypt's Hosni Mubarak, along with the Palestinian Authority, whether headed by Arafat or one of his henchmen." At bottom, according to Podhoretz, war against Iraq was about "the long-overdue internal reform and modernization of Islam."

PNAC was the driving force behind the drafting and passage of the Iraqi Liberation Act in 1998, a bill that essentially turned their desire for war into American law. PNAC funneled millions of taxpayer dollars to a group called the Iraqi National Congress, and to the man they intended to be Iraq's heir-apparent, Ahmed Chalabi, despite the fact that Chalabi was sentenced in absentia by a Jordanian court to 22 years in prison on 31 counts of bank fraud. Chalabi and the INC gathered support for their cause by promising oil contracts to anyone who would help overthrow Saddam Hussein and put them into power in Iraq.

the members of PNAC - once on the outside looking in - soon found themselves walking the halls of power and holding positions of enormous influence. Among these members were Vice President Dick Cheney; Lewis "Scooter" Libby, Cheney's chief of staff; Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld; Deputy Secretary of Defense Paul Wolfowitz; National Security Council member Eliot Abrams; Undersecretary of State John Bolton, who also served as America's ambassador to the UN; and Richard Perle, chairman of the powerful Defense Policy Board.

Maddow and her friends in the "news" media will, in the coming weeks, give us their various interpretations on how it came to happen, but none of them will bother to delve into the question of why it happened. The answer to that is too simple, and cuts too close to the bone: the war in Iraq cost more than three trillion dollars ($3,000,000,000,000.00) to execute. Every bullet fired, every bomb dropped, every MRE eaten, every helicopter shot down, every missile fired, every truck destroyed by an IED, every oil well guarded, every uniform worn, and every body bag filled translated into a slice of that money going to a company connected to the PNAC members of the Bush administration, who lied us into that war as an expression of their personal principles and in fulfillment of their dreams. Halliburton, KBR, United Defense, the Carlyle Group, independent military contractors like Blackwater and a crowd of American oil companies are still counting the riches they earned from their participation in the carnage.

The war against Iraq, in the end, was nothing more or less than a massive money-laundering operation that took American taxpayer dollars, soaked them in blood, and redirected them to Certain Friends In High Places. It was, as I said years ago, a smash-and-grab robbery writ large, aided and abetted by an American "news" media which had its own profit motive, and which made a nifty sum off the whole deal. Even better for them, today they get to enjoy the ratings and advertising dollars to come when they broadcast their somber "documentaries" about how terrible it all was, how many lies were told, how many mistakes were made, and all without ever looking inward at their own enormous complicity.


They say the war is over now, but Halliburton is still getting paid to "rebuild" Iraq, the military contractors are still there, bombs are still going off all over the country, the hundreds of thousands of civilians who were killed are still dead, the hundreds of thousands of civilians who were wounded and maimed are still scarred, and many of the millions who were displaced are still not home. Almost 5,000 American soldiers are still dead, nearly 40,000 more are still scarred, and the VA is utterly incapable of dealing with the aftermath.



http://truth-out.org/opinion/item/14688-the-united-states-of-aftermath

Barry is WORSE than dubya, is pure right-wing bullshit.

[ChumpDumper]

Doesn't seem like it caused much political upset. Decently done (though the spooky music was YouTubesque), but nothing new.

[SA210]

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Truth bombs by Abby Martin on the msm faking war propaganda. Nothin but the facts.. :tu



Abby Martin takes a look at MSNBC's recent documentary about the lies leading up the Iraq war, and the closer look at the corporate media's complicity in selling war to the American people by highlighting multiple staged events.


Abby Martin: Media Fakes War Propaganda | Weapons of Mass Distraction


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0vTmsbU_tA

[boutons_deux]

Doesn't seem like it caused much political upset. Decently done (though the spooky music was YouTubesque), but nothing new.

the vast majority of Americans are sheeple, are disaffected by the political disaster. The ones that aren't are extreme right wingers who are ALL WAR, ALL THE TIME, EVERYWHERE. They hate govt, but love Repug lies and misgovernance.

[mouse]

Doesn't seem like it caused much political upset. Decently done (though the spooky music was YouTubesque), but nothing new.



:lmao