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BlackSilver
02-19-2013, 07:10 PM
This idea was sparked by seeing something similar for another team. Here's how I rank our players in terms of importance to the team right now, with notes where that ranking needs to be different if we are to win a fifth title.

1. Tim Duncan
Plenty's been said about his resurgent form, but seeing the team struggle in his absence to affect shots, get defensive rebounds, or offer decent weak-side help was enough for me. I hope he plays for ten more years, even as a defensive specialist. If he can walk, he should play. No lower than #2 important player for title number 5.

2. Tony Parker
It was tough to place him second because of how amazing he's playing and running the offense. I'll say this though...if Tony can bottle up that individual defensive effort he showed against Kyrie Irving and replicate it with any consistency, he becomes my clear #1 important player if we are to win a 5th title. And, it's about time he started mentoring the other PGs on the roster.

3. Kawhi Leonard
What a guy. His decision-making under pressure is a beautiful thing. And, is that a clutch gene glimmering in the depths? Sure hope so. We will sink or swim in those close playoff games depending on his consistency. Remains #3 for playoffs.

4. Tiago Splitter
What an improvement in free throw shooting. But, I want to see him demand the ball more in the post from Tony. At least couple times a half. His defense against Zach Randolph was a revelation. I thought he was soft? #5

5. Danny Green
I said right now. And you can't deny that his icy hot shooting has been more fire than ice of late and has been huge in some games. Danny boy, repeat after me...Players WILL fly at me in the playoffs and there won't be much room to shoot, but I promise to shoot and make it. Wash, rinse, repeat. #8 most important players for the title, mostly because his shooting is capable of making us overlook Bonner's impending collapse.

6. Gary Neal
This is a tough one. I happen to love Gary's shooting and hope he sticks with the Spurs for years to come. But man, that putrid defense. Remember, if you're too slow to play honest defense, take a page from the vets and learn some crafty sneaky stuff. Cause you have no hope otherwise. #6 for the playoffs.

7. Manu Ginobili
He's this far down because of how little he's played. But, I've really liked what I've seen when healthy. The good news is we'll make it through the first two rounds with or without him. But the WCF and Finals? We need Manu Magic back. #4 most important for title number 5 because when all else fails, we trust in Manu.

8. Matt Bonner
Um, what's there to say. Regular season shot-making success continues. Maybe he'll flip the script for the second half of the season causing Pop to put him at the end of the bench now and then maybe resurrect his corpse in a desperate situation a la Steve Kerr and he delivers one close game. #10. Go ahead and lower those expectations now.

9. Nando De Colo
What are you? Legit backup PG or tease? Is there just one shot you can consistently make? #11.

10. Boris Diaw
Flashes of brilliance that are too rare. I guess that's why they call them flashes. Whatever. Clearly our best big off the bench but needs a lot more improvement for the playoffs. #9

11. DeJuan Blair
Yeah, I know a couple of you think he's the savior and the rest of you think he stinks. I guess I'm with the rest of you, mainly because I think his confidence is shot. #14.

12. Stephen Jackson
Put me firmly in the SJax Fan Club. I think he's critical for ring #5 and will perform in the clutch games. Because he already has that clutch gene that we keep hoping Bonner will magically discover. #7

13. Patty Mills
Not a PG. Don't quite know what to do with him. But he sure gets major points for team chemistry and cheering his teammates. I really hope he can be turned loose for 5 minutes at a stretch for some shot making and no other responsibilities. #12.

14. Aron Baynes
Ok dude, grow up already. #13.

15. Cory Joseph
Um, will he even be around? I feel bad that he hasn't gotten a chance, but if Pop doesn't get him playing time in the next ten games, the playoff rotation will be set without him.

I probably missed someone. Anyway, I guess a trade is possible, but I personally think unlikely at this point in the season.

timvp
02-19-2013, 07:47 PM
I don't fully understand your criteria but, whatever it is, it shouldn't have Ginobili at 7.

1A. Tony Parker
1B. Tim Duncan
1C. Manu Ginobili

Come playoff time, those three will be interchangeable. The Spurs will need two of the three playing at the absolute top of their game to win a championship.

4. Tiago Splitter
5. Kawhi Leonard

Splitter is the most important of the rest of the players, partly because the Spurs rely on him so much. If he can't hold down the fort while Duncan rests, the Spurs are toast. Leonard needs to continue to blossom but the Spurs aren't yet totally dependent on him.

6. Boris Diaw
7. Danny Green

Diaw is very important. If he doesn't do well, the Spurs are in trouble because of the weakness of the bigs behind him. Green hurts the team if he implodes but his importance decreases come the playoffs since Ginobili will play more minutes.

8. Gary Neal
9. Stephen Jackson
10A. Nando De Colo
10B. Patrick Mills

The Spurs need at least two of these players to play well -- preferably three.

12. Matt Bonner
13. DeJuan Blair

Any production during a vital game is a bonus.

14. Aron Baynes
15. Cory Joseph

Might or might not get a chance this season.

Darius Bieber
02-19-2013, 07:51 PM
I agree with mostly everything you have there, timvp. :toast
However, I would put Captain Jack and Mills a bit higher. They are X-Factors and if they get hot (a La Stephen Jackson during Game 6 in WCF last year) they may be the key to an advancement in the Play-Offs.

Richie
02-19-2013, 08:01 PM
timvp, surely Jack should be in the Diaw/Green group. He will have to play significant minutes guarding Durant and Lebron for us to win a title.

DapDaGenius
02-19-2013, 08:02 PM
Duncan play for 10 more years? LOL

Also what is "Ok dude, grow up" referring to, when you speak of Baynes?

BlackSilver
02-19-2013, 08:03 PM
I don't fully understand your criteria but, whatever it is, it shouldn't have Ginobili at 7.

Sorry...I wasn't clear. Ginobili is at 7 right now...meaning for the regular season. Whether or not he goes into God mode before the reg season ends, the team will have a pretty good record and seed. In terms of his importance to the team in the playoffs, I had him at 4, behind Tony, Tim, and Kawhi.

My criteria are fully subjective...

spurraider21
02-19-2013, 08:04 PM
The OKC series last year showed just how important Manu was... but I'd still have him at #2 if Tim and Tony are 1a and 1b
I think as long as 1 of our 3 headed spaghetti monster of Neal Mills and De Colo is playing well, that's all we need. If one is playing well, the other 2 won't need minutes. Tiago playing well is going to be huge against not only OKC (hopefully along with Tim can force them to stay away from their small lineup, keeping Perkins out there) but also against LAC or Memphis. His D in Randolph will be huge if we face them, and his transition D will need to be on point against the clippers with the way their bigs run the floor. Naturally, against these teams, limiting turnovers as a team is AS important as any one playe's play

BlackSilver
02-19-2013, 08:05 PM
Duncan play for 10 more years? LOL

Also what is "Ok dude, grow up" referring to, when you speak of Baynes?

Re: Duncan, I can hope, can't I? As for Baynes, yes...that was unnecessarily mysterious. I meant that it would be nice if he instantly became an NBA quality player so he could help us this year.

Brunodf
02-19-2013, 08:07 PM
Kawhi is ranked too high.

Chinook
02-19-2013, 08:11 PM
You know the rules: Green has to be ranked first or 15th. There's no middle ground.

Chinook
02-19-2013, 08:26 PM
Serious list, though:

1a, 1b -- Parker and Duncan: They both need to be great to get past the second round

3 -- Ginobili: The team could probably make it to the West Finals without him, but there's no way they get past OKC, LAC and especially Miami without all hands on deck.

4a, 4b, 4c -- Leonard, Green and Splitter: At least one of these players needs to step up to form the Big Four in the playoffs, two if Ginobili isn't right. We can argue about which individual is most important in a vacuum, but I think in games, they'll switch off by series or even by quarter.

7 -- Diaw: He probably can't push the Spurs too far one way or the other, but an engaged Diaw can dominate bench units with is passing.

8a, 8b -- Neal and Jack: They need to hit their shots and bring great effort in the later series. The Spurs can probably get by early without them.

10a, 10b, 10c -- De Colo, Mills and Blair: Someone needs to be ready when their number's called. There will be times when an infusion of energy is needed. I hope they play smart then.

13a, 13b -- Baynes and Joseph: I'll be surprised if they are even in uniform. Perhaps they'll get a chance later.

LAST -- Bonner: I hope he doesn't even see minutes in blowouts. I like him personally, and I wish things were different, but the best thing he can do is pull an Horry and get some players suspended during a crucial series. But that would required him to be on the court, so pass.

letmk
02-19-2013, 08:29 PM
I don't fully understand your criteria but, whatever it is, it shouldn't have Ginobili at 7.

1A. Tony Parker
1B. Tim Duncan
1C. Manu Ginobili

Come playoff time, those three will be interchangeable. The Spurs will need two of the three playing at the absolute top of their game to win a championship.

4. Tiago Splitter
5. Kawhi Leonard

Splitter is the most important of the rest of the players, partly because the Spurs rely on him so much. If he can't hold down the fort while Duncan rests, the Spurs are toast. Leonard needs to continue to blossom but the Spurs aren't yet totally dependent on him.

6. Boris Diaw
7. Danny Green

Diaw is very important. If he doesn't do well, the Spurs are in trouble because of the weakness of the bigs behind him. Green hurts the team if he implodes but his importance decreases come the playoffs since Ginobili will play more minutes.

8. Gary Neal
9. Stephen Jackson
10A. Nando De Colo
10B. Patrick Mills

The Spurs need at least two of these players to play well -- preferably three.

12. Matt Bonner
13. DeJuan Blair

Any production during a vital game is a bonus.

14. Aron Baynes
15. Cory Joseph

Might or might not get a chance this season.

To get regular season wins, Kawhi is not that needed. But for the Spurs to potentially upset Heat/Thunder, I would put him as 1c as Tim and Tony.

To me, say if Spurs have 10% to win it all, that chance becomes 0% without Tim or Tony, and 1% without Kawhi.

An unhealthy Manu makes it 5%, but sticking with an unhealthy/inefficient Manu no matter what makes it 3% or even lower.

DapDaGenius
02-19-2013, 08:39 PM
Re: Duncan, I can hope, can't I? As for Baynes, yes...that was unnecessarily mysterious. I meant that it would be nice if he instantly became an NBA quality player so he could help us this year.

Oh ok. That's really unlikely though. I'm not saying that he doesn't have the potential be an NBA quality beast, I'm just saying it's unlikely for it to happen with him averaging less than 6 minutes a game. He played 18 and 11 minutes in 2 games, then in the rest of the games he played in, he's played only like 2 minutes. It would be nice to see Baynes get some more time on the court. Maybe it will happen sometime soon or maybe we'll we waiting a while for that to happen. Who knows. I hope his development is coming along well, though.

superbigtime
02-19-2013, 09:11 PM
Nice breakdown there, agree definitely that Tiago and Kawhi are #4 and #5. This stratification really drives home how important the 3rd and 4th tier players are. Guys with questionable reliability and consistency (to say it nicely) include Green, Neal, and deColo and Diaw as well. I just don't know about Jack. I think his finger injury is a huge problem. But he is very savvy and wily and tough. The fact that he has not strung a few good games together makes me think he could be done.

cd021
02-19-2013, 09:22 PM
I don't fully understand your criteria but, whatever it is, it shouldn't have Ginobili at 7.

1A. Tony Parker
1B. Tim Duncan
1C. Manu Ginobili

Come playoff time, those three will be interchangeable. The Spurs will need two of the three playing at the absolute top of their game to win a championship.

4. Tiago Splitter
5. Kawhi Leonard

Splitter is the most important of the rest of the players, partly because the Spurs rely on him so much. If he can't hold down the fort while Duncan rests, the Spurs are toast. Leonard needs to continue to blossom but the Spurs aren't yet totally dependent on him.

6. Boris Diaw
7. Danny Green

Diaw is very important. If he doesn't do well, the Spurs are in trouble because of the weakness of the bigs behind him. Green hurts the team if he implodes but his importance decreases come the playoffs since Ginobili will play more minutes.

8. Gary Neal
9. Stephen Jackson
10A. Nando De Colo
10B. Patrick Mills

The Spurs need at least two of these players to play well -- preferably three.

12. Matt Bonner
13. DeJuan Blair

Any production during a vital game is a bonus.

14. Aron Baynes
15. Cory Joseph

Might or might not get a chance this season.

Agree. No way Neal is more important than Manu.

Captivus
02-19-2013, 09:39 PM
Following the thread idea, I would put NDC with the number 6 in order to win.
The Big 3, Tiago, Kiwi, Neal/Green, NDC.
If NDC makes a jump and ends up being number 6, which would mean he becomes the back up PG (and can handle it, off course), I would say the Spurs can win it all.
I dont think other players besides the "5" can have a bigger impact than NDC if he starts to play like we all hope he can.

ksstyle
02-19-2013, 10:17 PM
For reguler season only, I understand your point
But playoffs stage is somewhat different

dunkman
02-20-2013, 12:05 AM
The best Spurs players are Tony and Tim.
Excellent players are Manu, Kawhi and Tiago.
Serviceable are Diaw, Green and Bonner.
Inconsistent players: Neal, Jack, Mills, Blair, De Colo, Cory and Baynes

jhfenton
02-20-2013, 12:10 AM
Without looking at anyone else's list to unduly influence me:

1. Parker
2. Duncan

3. Splitter
4. Leonard
5. Ginobili
6. Green
7. Diaw

8. Jackson
9. Mills
10. De Colo
11. Neal
12. Bonner

13. Blair
14. Baynes
15. Joseph

To win the championship, I believe that the Spurs need Parker and Duncan, 4 of the next 5, and 2 of the next 5 to play well. The bottom 3 are irrelevant.

chapnis
02-20-2013, 12:38 AM
Tony, Tim, Manu, Splitter, Leonard, Green, Diaw, Jackson, Neal, De Colo, Mills, Bonner, Blair, Baynes, Joseph. IMO

TD 21
02-20-2013, 12:59 AM
I don't fully understand your criteria but, whatever it is, it shouldn't have Ginobili at 7.

1A. Tony Parker
1B. Tim Duncan
1C. Manu Ginobili

Come playoff time, those three will be interchangeable. The Spurs will need two of the three playing at the absolute top of their game to win a championship.

Disagree. Ginobili is clearly number three in terms of importance and he was last season too, despite leading the team in PER and WS/48. It's all about their positions/role and the composition of the roster. Plus, the other two play significantly more minutes.


10A. Nando De Colo
10B. Patrick Mills

The Spurs need at least two of these players to play well -- preferably three.

12. Matt Bonner

I know what you're thinking here, but just by virtue of all three being minimal players and Bonner being highest on the depth chart, I'd put him ahead of both.

ElNono
02-20-2013, 01:08 AM
I don't fully understand your criteria but, whatever it is, it shouldn't have Ginobili at 7.

1A. Tony Parker
1B. Tim Duncan
1C. Manu Ginobili

Come playoff time, those three will be interchangeable. The Spurs will need two of the three playing at the absolute top of their game to win a championship.

4. Tiago Splitter
5. Kawhi Leonard

Splitter is the most important of the rest of the players, partly because the Spurs rely on him so much. If he can't hold down the fort while Duncan rests, the Spurs are toast. Leonard needs to continue to blossom but the Spurs aren't yet totally dependent on him.

6. Boris Diaw
7. Danny Green

Diaw is very important. If he doesn't do well, the Spurs are in trouble because of the weakness of the bigs behind him. Green hurts the team if he implodes but his importance decreases come the playoffs since Ginobili will play more minutes.

8. Gary Neal
9. Stephen Jackson
10A. Nando De Colo
10B. Patrick Mills

The Spurs need at least two of these players to play well -- preferably three.

12. Matt Bonner
13. DeJuan Blair

Any production during a vital game is a bonus.

14. Aron Baynes
15. Cory Joseph

Might or might not get a chance this season.

this, pretty much. Two changes though:

Jack goes into the Diaw/Green slot. His defense/post-play/3pt shooting/experience can be a difference maker at the big dance.

and

1A. Manu Ginobili
1B. Tim Duncan
1C. Tony Parker

Boomersgold
02-20-2013, 01:12 AM
1. Tony Parker
2. Tim Duncan
3. Tiago Splitter
4. Manu Ginobili
5. Kawhi Leonard
6. Boris Diaw
7. Danny Green
8. Stephen Jackson
9. De Colo
10. Patty Mills
11. Gary Neal
12. Aron Baynes
13. Matt Bonner
14. Dejuan Blair
15. Cory Joseph

carina_gino20
02-20-2013, 04:16 AM
I really hope we don't have to rely on D Green's production come playoff time...I just haven't seen anything from him yet to change the perception that he will shrivel up in the postseason...

Mal
02-20-2013, 05:48 AM
1/2 Duncan & Parker are the most important
3 Ginobili as core player, but Spurs managed to win games without him. Healthy and in form, means for team than other guys on the team.
4/5 Splitter & Leonard. Important players + future investments
6 Diaw really important guy, but Spurs could live without him
7/8 Green & Neal. Important roles with 3pt shooting threat. Again, important to the system, not untradeable
9 Jax. Not sure about him. He didnt give much + he is Spurs` best trade asset.
10. De Colo. Great player, but for the future. Could be added to some trade package
11. Bonner. A guy who`s been here for long time. Tradeable contract.
12. Mills. Bench warmer. Decent player. Not important piece for playoff rotation.
13. Blair. Bench warmer. Probably gone within a week.
14. CoJo. Been here for 3 years, and didnt improve in rotation. If anybody wants him, trade him.
15. Baynes. Didnat saw a second of him playing, but guess he is here for being a cheap asset in the future.

ego
02-20-2013, 05:57 AM
1. Tony Parker
2. Tim Duncan
3. Manu Ginobili
4. Tiago Splitter

johnnySpurs
02-20-2013, 10:23 AM
1. Tony Parker
He is the one player most capable of performing at a high level every night. He is the one player capable of taking the team on his back each and every night.

2. Tim Duncan
While Tim is definitely not the player that he once was, he does have the ability to step up his level of play and make a huge impact on the game when needed. He is our defensive center piece and while Tony clearly leads the charge, the team still revolves around Tim.

3. Kawhi Leonard
Now is the time, Spursfans, for Kawhi to step into his rightful position as the future of this team. Our next 'big 3' will be Tony, Kawhi and...... ? While it is a painful pill to swallow, Manu is no longer able to consistently maintain the level of play that we have come to expect a from him. Overall, Kawhi may become our most versatile player. Best perimeter defender, top 3 rebounder, and top 5 scorer.

4. Tiago Splitter
What have we had issues with in recent playoffs? BIGS. Memphis beat us in 2011 behind strong play from Z-Bo and Gasol. Oklahoma played us great last year, but one of the most notable areas that they beat us in was performance from their bigs. The Spurs have to be able to dominate the paint on both ends of the floor in order to go deep into the playoffs. We will need strong and reliable play from Tiago.

5. Manu Ginobilli
Of all the big 3, Manu is the one who has seen the sharpest decline in recent years. As always, we will need his firepower and creativity off the bench. Whatever he has left in the tank will be invaluable to this teams success in the playoffs.

6. Danny Green
The Spurs do not expect much of Danny, but it is imperative to the success of this team that he do the few things that we do ask of him... and that he do them well. Green is perhaps our 2nd best perimeter defender and a deep threat. I do not think it is unreasonable to expect 14 - 18 ppg from him in the playoffs. Hopefully we don't have a repeat of last years choke job.

7. Gary Neal
Volume scorer, will be needed to score in volume. Historically, the Spurs have gone into scoring ruts that can last a quarter, sometimes more. I remember watching Spurs teams that would start games on fire go ice cold coming out of the half. We need to be able to look to Gary to make big shots when other players shots are not falling. Gary IS the best pure shooter on the team, make no mistake about that.

8. Boris Diaw
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9. Stephen Jackson
10. Matt Bonner
11. Nando De Colo
12. Patty Mills
13. Aaron Baynes
14. Corey Joseph
15. Dejuan Blair
I hated to see Blair start for us, but I also hate to see him have fallen so far on the depth chart. I see Blair as our 3rd big... first big off the bench. He is one of our strongest rebounders, and best post player. He doesn't bring much on the defensive end, but... well... paint defense is just not an area that we're very strong in outside of Timmy. The only reason Blair is this low is because I do not expect him to be here much longer.

Jumi
02-22-2013, 08:50 AM
When I saw this thread, I rewatched the WCF from last season. With that being said, this is how I rank the guys in order of importance.....

1.Tony Parker
Needs no explanation

2.Tim Duncan
Needs no explanation

3. Manu Ginobli
Needs no explanation, but PLEASE no Turnobli!

4.Kawhi Leonard
His improvements on offense this year as well as his defense coming back into form will be crucial.

5. Tiago Splitter
Team defense has shown flashbacks to the old days with him and TD on the floor together at times. Hopefully that continues in the playoffs! His ability in the PnR, as well as knowing his place in the offense speaks for itself!

6. Stephen Jackson
Needs no explanation

7. Gary Neal
This guy stunk up the joint in the WCF last year! All the hate for Danny Green should've been placed at his feet! Manu plays more at the 2 in the playoffs, so Green wasn't that vital. Gary got consistent minutes the entire series subbing for TP and Manu and he was terrible! One good game for him after game 1 could've allowed us to get one of those games and prevent a backdoor sweep! With no true backup PG, I believe he's gonna get those minutes again! He has to step up this season! His defense is horrible at times, so if he isn't scoring buckets he can shoot you out of a game!

8. Boris Diaw
As long as he provides easy offensive looks for the rest of the guys and occasionally puts the ball in hoop when he's on the court, we should be able to survive while Tim or Tiago is on the bench. He actually played pretty good defence that series. Everyone remembers game 3 when Ibaka and Perkins shot the ball so well, but the were held in check for 5 out of the 6 games!

9. Danny Green
Shoot the three and play defense, or ride the pine!

Everyone else take a seat and wave towels!!

Brazil
02-22-2013, 09:44 AM
this, pretty much. Two changes though:

Jack goes into the Diaw/Green slot. His defense/post-play/3pt shooting/experience can be a difference maker at the big dance.

and

1A. Manu Ginobili
1B. Tim Duncan
1C. Tony Parker

:lol

Boomersgold
02-22-2013, 09:54 AM
6. Stephen Jackson
Needs no explanation


Jackson over Diaw and Green? Not sure if serious....Jackson hasn't been a factor in any of the games that we've won so far. He's great to have on the team, but I can't help but think that he's underwhelmed this season.

batman2883
02-22-2013, 12:41 PM
whoa whoa whoa, leonard definitely belongs ahead of splitter....

2centsworth
02-22-2013, 01:56 PM
Ginobilli may be a detriment to the this team methodical but deadly style. In the past I used to cringe when Manu was out of the game. Now I cringe when he checks-in, because I'm no sure he has the skill level anymore to outweigh his glaring negatives.

Aztecfan03
02-22-2013, 10:55 PM
Following the thread idea, I would put NDC with the number 6 in order to win.
The Big 3, Tiago, Kiwi, Neal/Green, NDC.
If NDC makes a jump and ends up being number 6, which would mean he becomes the back up PG (and can handle it, off course), I would say the Spurs can win it all.
I dont think other players besides the "5" can have a bigger impact than NDC if he starts to play like we all hope he can.

You mean he would be 7 or 8 according to the number of players you put ahead of him.

superjames1992
02-22-2013, 11:11 PM
LOL at ranking Manu behind anyone except Tony Parker and Tim Duncan. The Manu-haters on this forum are ridiculous.

Captivus
02-22-2013, 11:14 PM
You mean he would be 7 or 8 according to the number of players you put ahead of him.

Yeah, 7....I better return my Business Degree...

cheguevara
02-22-2013, 11:21 PM
Pop
Tp
Duncan

Kawhi
Splitter
Manu

Green
Neal

BlackSilver
06-17-2013, 10:42 AM
Four months ago most thought Tiago would be more important than Danny Green for the Spurs to win it all. And we thought one or two of DeColo/Mills/Blair/Bonner would also be needed.

OldSilentHill
06-17-2013, 10:59 AM
So far?

Pop
Parker
Green
Tmac
Duncan
Leonard
Manu (main reason we lost 1 game and one of the main reasons we won another one)
Neal
Splitter





Bonner.

Kidd K
06-17-2013, 11:13 AM
Surprisingly solid list order by the OP from months ago. You had Splitter too high, and maybe should've swapped Manu and Neal around and bumped up Diaw a couple spots . .and Nando shouldn't have been anywhere above #13, but the rest looks spot on.

Good mid-season take OP.

maverick1948
06-17-2013, 01:34 PM
When looking at the lists, I find myself wondering about some of them. Right now, the most important player we have is Danny Green. As long as he is shooting lights out from 3, we are going to bring home #5. But we overlook that in Game 3, Gary Neal was really good. He was 9 of 17 from the field and 6 of 10 for 3. Followed that up with a 3 for 4 on 3's in game 4. Other players are contributing to the "playoff run". Kawhi has been a beast on the boards and defence. But look at his offence, he has scored 12.8 in playoffs to 11.9 in regular season. He is shooting lights out as well. Regular season 49.4, playoffs 55.6. Diaw hasnt scored a lot but his defence on LeBrick has been fan-dam-tastic. Even tho for only short stints, he has done his part to stop or slow LeBrick. CJ, Tiago and Bonner, (yes Bonner) have turned in good games. CJ on D against GS, Tiago in Laker and Griz series, and alas, Bonner early in the role he plays is 8-1 when he plays for 16 mins or more. Got to give a tiny bit of credit to Bayners. Against the Lakers, he was a monster on Howard for time he was on the court. Did not back down from Howard, went head up and gave him problems.

Yes, Tim, Tony and Manu are the leaders of the team and are the most important overall, but I think we have a big 5 with Kawhi and Danny being added to the list. Most important Spur is Pop, he has done a masterful job of matchups in the Miami series.

Blake
06-16-2014, 03:08 PM
I don't fully understand your criteria but, whatever it is, it shouldn't have Ginobili at 7.

1A. Tony Parker
1B. Tim Duncan
1C. Manu Ginobili

Come playoff time, those three will be interchangeable. The Spurs will need two of the three playing at the absolute top of their game to win a championship.

4. Tiago Splitter
5. Kawhi Leonard

Splitter is the most important of the rest of the players, partly because the Spurs rely on him so much. If he can't hold down the fort while Duncan rests, the Spurs are toast. Leonard needs to continue to blossom but the Spurs aren't yet totally dependent on him.

6. Boris Diaw
7. Danny Green

Diaw is very important. If he doesn't do well, the Spurs are in trouble because of the weakness of the bigs behind him. Green hurts the team if he implodes but his importance decreases come the playoffs since Ginobili will play more minutes.

8. Gary Neal
9. Stephen Jackson
10A. Nando De Colo
10B. Patrick Mills

The Spurs need at least two of these players to play well -- preferably three.

12. Matt Bonner
13. DeJuan Blair

Any production during a vital game is a bonus.

14. Aron Baynes
15. Cory Joseph

Might or might not get a chance this season.

So has Leonard pushed his way into the top three?

If so, who is #4?

spectator
06-16-2014, 09:03 PM
i think leonard is now top 3. i still have timmy at no 2 because of defense and leadership.

Aztecfan03
06-16-2014, 10:01 PM
i think leonard is now top 3. i still have timmy at no 2 because of defense and leadership.

then who is 1? haha. I think this year or at least playoffs it may have been
1.Duncan
2. kawhi
3/4 parker/manu
5. green
6/7 splitter/ diaw
8 Mills
9 Belli