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racm
02-20-2013, 09:22 PM
IIRC Tony leads the team in FTAs per game at around 5... to put that into perspective, Danilo Gallinari draws around 5 FTAs per game too, and he's not even an All-Star this season.

freetiago
02-20-2013, 09:24 PM
They are but get no respect
they also create wide open looks over playing Denver style monkeyball aka "just attack" as George Karl says
Parker should be near the top of the league in FTA and Splitter should also get way more, too many times guys are going for piggyback rides and its a no call

Ginobili who is our best foul drawer also takes it easier in the reg season where 50% of his shots consist of 3s
in the playoffs hell probably attack more

Russ
02-20-2013, 09:28 PM
They don't penetrate enough (market penetration, that is).

chapnis
02-20-2013, 09:37 PM
Don't flop enough?

spursmartyr
02-20-2013, 09:40 PM
a) The Spurs are the most league-hated team in the NBA
b) The Spurs don't draw many cheap fouls (think LAC/OKC)
c) The Spurs' best attackers aren't penetrating as much because they're older and Pop wants them healthy for the playoffs


/thread

Brunodf
02-20-2013, 09:51 PM
Substantial Sanctions

BatManu20
02-20-2013, 10:00 PM
We honestly don't have many players that drive to the hole outside of Tony. Manu does sometimes when he actually plays, but not nearly as much as he used to, and for good reason. Kawhi is starting to attack more which is good. But overall, we're not an aggressive offense outside of Tony, we're just really smart and great at moving the ball. It's as simple as that.

callo1
02-20-2013, 10:01 PM
Starters play less minutes than most other starting teams.

Pop camps Leonard in the corner far too much.

"Three point specialist" shooters.

Spurs lack "nuthugging" mass market appeal per the usual.


Truth be told, I am happy that Tiago is getting to the line more this year. With Timmy playing at a higher level, the frontcourt is drawing more fouls. Due to Manu's injuries and aging, TP is the only backcourt player that gets to the line on a regular basis.

BatManu20
02-20-2013, 10:04 PM
Scratch

capek
02-20-2013, 10:24 PM
Because they don't rely on iso's and driving the ball into traffic. They have an actual offensive system, where they prefer to make the extra pass and get the open shot.

Cry Havoc
02-20-2013, 10:38 PM
http://newagesports.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/david-stern-lockout.jpg

Tough question. Lemme think about it.

Capt Bringdown
02-20-2013, 11:22 PM
Because they don't rely on iso's and driving the ball into traffic. They have an actual offensive system, where they prefer to make the extra pass and get the open shot.

That's so very noble and pure, but driving into traffic & drawing fouls is a necessary component to NBA championship basketball IMO.

capek
02-20-2013, 11:37 PM
That's so very noble and pure, but driving into traffic & drawing fouls is a necessary component to NBA championship basketball IMO.

Well they get to the line sometimes by doing that. It's just not as much a part of their offense as teams with superstars or who rely on iso's more.

And because Spurs are persecuted by the NBA :tu

racm
02-20-2013, 11:47 PM
I do like how Tony's far more aggressive over the RRT. IIRC he's now averaging around ~8 FTAs on the RRT.

TVI
02-21-2013, 12:01 AM
They don't penetrate enough (market penetration, that is). I see what you did there...:downspin:

Danny.Zhu
02-21-2013, 12:59 AM
David Stern.

siraulo23
02-21-2013, 01:15 AM
Jump shooting team?

RD2191
02-21-2013, 01:18 AM
Jump shooting team?
OKC?

Arcadian
02-21-2013, 02:12 AM
Because they don't rely on iso's and driving the ball into traffic. They have an actual offensive system, where they prefer to make the extra pass and get the open shot.

Correct

Roger Freemason Jr.
02-21-2013, 02:18 AM
They don't penetrate enough (market penetration, that is).

I'm going to start a band called "Market Penetration".

Roger Freemason Jr.
02-21-2013, 02:51 AM
By the way, I read on twitter, that Parker wants to play until he is 38.

Mal
02-21-2013, 03:30 AM
I`ll go with TV ratings

Darkwaters
02-21-2013, 04:29 AM
5x8

ambchang
02-21-2013, 11:39 AM
The Spurs aren't actually that bad overall. They are ranked 16th in the league at 0.205 FT/FGA (above the league average of 0.204). They also do quite a bit of motion offense which leads to open shots as opposed to fouls.

The interesting part is where OKC stands. Not only are they ranked #1 in FT/FGA (expected), they are leading it by a HUGE margin. OKC shoots 0.282 FT/FGA, whereas the Bobcats, sitting at #2, shoots 0.237 FT/FGA, that is a difference of 0.045 FT/FGA. Putting that into perspective, that is more than the difference between #2 ranked Bobcats and #23 ranked NYK (0.194)