LA or San Antonio--Which fan base has more mexicans?

[Arnold Toht]

both fan bases often make mexican jokes about the other. So which is it?

[rayjayjohnson]

Per capita, or total?

[Arnold Toht]

total

[midnightpulp]

Lakers. By farrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.

15 million bean3rs just in California alone, and they all love them some Laker basketball.

[whitemamba]

both fan bases often make mexican jokes about the other. So which is it?


SA no question

[midnightpulp]

SA no question

Well now, we now know you obviously don't live in Southern California.

Southern California alone has more illegal Mexicans than San Antonio has people.

[whitemamba]

Lakers. By farrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.

15 million bean3rs just in California alone, and they all love them some Laker basketball.

San Antonio- Hispanic or Latino (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hispanic_and_Latino_Americans) 61.2%
Los Angeles - Hispanics or Latinos (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hispanic_and_Latino_Americans):48.5%.

dumbass

[sook]

lakers and its not even close.

[whitemamba]

1254 Mile border with texas
137 mile border with CA

****** infested state

[JingleJangleJingle]

San Antonio- Hispanic or Latino (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hispanic_and_Latino_Americans) 61.2%
Los Angeles -Hispanics or Latinos (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hispanic_and_Latino_Americans):48.5%.

dumbass

SA has roughly 1.4 million people so around 800k are Mexican

LA has roughly 4 million people so around 2M are Mexican Latino whatever

so yeah there are way more Hispanics cheering for the Lakers than the Spurs...but i don't understand why that's bad though?

[whitemamba]

SA has roughly 1.4 million people so around 800k are Mexican

LA has roughly 4 million people so around 2M are Mexican Latino whatever

so yeah there are way more Hispanics cheering for the Lakers than the Spurs...but i don't understand why that's bad though?

used wikipedia tbh

[midnightpulp]

San Antonio- Hispanic or Latino (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hispanic_and_Latino_Americans) 61.2%
Los Angeles - Hispanics or Latinos (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hispanic_and_Latino_Americans):48.5%.

dumbass

Population:

SA (metro): 2.2 million

LA (metro): 13 million

Furthermore, the Laker fanbase just isn't limited to Los Angeles. The majority of Southern California residents are Lakers fans, along with many, many in the greater Southwest.

Are you really this stupid?

[Arnold Toht]

but i don't understand why that's bad though?

http://www.prisonplanet.com/mexican-flag-waving-lakers-fans-riot-in-l-a.html

[whitemamba]

Population:

SA (metro): 2.2 million

LA (metro): 13 million

Furthermore, the Laker fanbase just isn't limited to Los Angeles. The majority of Southern California residents are Lakers fans, along with many, many in the greater Southwest.

Are you really this stupid?

2000-2010 census doesnt seem to agree with you

[midnightpulp]

Population:

SA (metro): 2.2 million

LA (metro): 13 million

Furthermore, the Laker fanbase just isn't limited to Los Angeles. The majority of Southern California residents are Lakers fans, along with many, many in the greater Southwest.

Are you really this stupid?

And why do I even have to ask this? Of course you're this stupid. You're a Lakers fan with a tiny bean3r brain.

[LakerHater]

WTF!??

[Venti Quattro]

I'm a ******, tbh. Love coffee bean

[Arnold Toht]

Holy shit, just as this thread was created, the Lakers fans chanting "we want tacos"


you need any more evidence? :rollin

[midnightpulp]

2000-2010 census doesnt seem to agree with you

Agree with what?

• Metro 12,828,837

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Los_angeles

You being ignorant of SoCal's massive bean3r population tells me you're probably some honky from Montana who bandwagoned the Lakers since his home state doesn't have a team.

More from the census that "disagrees with me:"

http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/06000.html

38% of California citizens are of Hispanic descent (and that's not even counting all the illegals). This state has a population of 38 million people. You do the math.

[chapnis]

SA, highest percentage.
LA, more in total.

Not a hard problem to solve guys...

[Venti Quattro]

304473337554407424

:lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao What a preservation of Mexican culture

[whitemamba]

Agree with what?

• Metro 12,828,837

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Los_angeles

You being ignorant of SoCal's massive bean3r population tells me you're probably some honky from Montana who bandwagoned the Lakers since his home state doesn't have a team.

More from the census that "disagrees with me:"

http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/06000.html

38% of California citizens are of Hispanic descent (and that's not even counting all the illegals). This state has a population of 38 million people. You do the math.

:lolgot u running around like a bitch tbh

[whitemamba]

304473337554407424

:lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao What a preservation of Mexican culture

:lol

[midnightpulp]

:lolgot u running around like a bitch tbh

The old "I was only trolling all along defense."

First I pegged you for a bean3r, considering how retarded you are. But now I'm going with a honky bandwagoner, since you seem totally oblivious to the reality of the Lakers fanbase.

[midnightpulp]

SA, highest percentage.
LA, more in total.

Not a hard problem to solve guys...

Not so simple. Mexicans living in Mexico love the Lakers, as well.

[Venti Quattro]

midnightpulp, why u get worked up about Mexicans as much as Hitler gets worked up with Jews? Did they rob your house? Did a niggato bang your chick?

[IronMaxipad]

304473337554407424

:lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao What a preservation of Mexican culture
:hungry:

[Venti Quattro]

:hungry:

Sup IronMaxipad I see you're already bolded. Welcome to the family, nigga.

:lmao Barca

[midnightpulp]

midnightpulp, why u get worked up about Mexicans as much as Hitler gets worked up with Jews? Did they rob your house? Did a niggato bang your chick?

I have no problems with Mexican-Americans.

Bean3rs are a different story, however.

[Venti Quattro]

LA's mayor has Mexican roots...end of debate. Why are you treating it like it's the end of the world tho. There are a lot of honest to goodness Mexicans

[Arnold Toht]

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQw0uvg48wWk2kmylCej29C5engqETGe AlLB7-C4pgcWL9ohp3V
:cry

[Venti Quattro]

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQw0uvg48wWk2kmylCej29C5engqETGe AlLB7-C4pgcWL9ohp3V
:cry

http://www.toodol.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/alberto%20del%20rio-1351006928.jpg

[midnightpulp]

LA's mayor has Mexican roots...end of debate. Why are you treating it like it's the end of the world tho. There are a lot of honest to goodness Mexicans

Not the ones I'm referring to.

I'm talking about the ones who invade the country illegally, shit out 30 anchor babies, get on welfare, and demand everyone speakie-the-Spanish.

[midnightpulp]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fr9imilqanQ

:cry But they do the jobs Americans won't :cry

[midnightpulp]

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQw0uvg48wWk2kmylCej29C5engqETGe AlLB7-C4pgcWL9ohp3V
:cry

A great AMERICAN.

[HI-FI]

Not the ones I'm referring to.

I'm talking about the ones who invade the country illegally, shit out 30 anchor babies, get on welfare, and demand everyone speakie-the-Spanish.
i'm not sure what Venti's quote meant, of course the mayor would be hispanic, LA is very liberal with lots of hispanics wanting entitlements, seems like the ideal candidate for there. as for SA, it's always been a hispanic community and that's just part of the culture. I respect the history. I imagine though it has become more brown thanks to a corrupt and complacent political class that benefits from illegals, that part bothers me. But not much can be done, our politicians sold us out a long time ago, I imagine Third World status is inevitable.

[jeebus]

304473337554407424

:lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao What a preservation of Mexican culture

:lmao what a deal! $.99 of savings!

[jeebus]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fr9imilqanQ

:cry But they do the jobs Americans won't :cry

oh wow, I just watched that. makes me wanna shoot her with a shotgun a few dozen times.

[midnightpulp]

oh wow, I just watched that. makes me wanna shoot her with a shotgun a few dozen times.

:lol

[HI-FI]

oh wow, I just watched that. makes me wanna shoot her with a shotgun a few dozen times.

:lol first i thought you were being brutal per par, but that bitch is revolting. i hate when people like her mention God's will yet she just broke a law and took advantage of other people's taxes.

[z0sa]

San Antonio- Hispanic or Latino (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hispanic_and_Latino_Americans) 61.2%
Los Angeles - Hispanics or Latinos (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hispanic_and_Latino_Americans):48.5%.

dumbass

:lmao you just self-pwned hard

[Splits]

I see pulp is on the "self deportation" bandwagon. fail.

[BobaFett1]

oh wow, I just watched that. makes me wanna shoot her with a shotgun a few dozen times.



:stirpot:

[unforeseen]

Easier question would be...LA or SA - Which fan base has more criminals?

[Thebesteva]

LA's mayor has Mexican roots...end of debate. Why are you treating it like it's the end of the world tho. There are a lot of honest to goodness Mexicans

True

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lz7mjeLLov1qalc3uo1_500.png

[TDMVPDPOY]

u know with the cholos uniform..why skinhead, black trousers and white shirt for every member?

[Mao Zedong]

Pff, who cares about your ****** towns.

I am China, I have zero beaners!

[rayjayjohnson]

LA's mayor has Mexican roots...end of debate. Why are you treating it like it's the end of the world tho. There are a lot of honest to goodness Mexicans
Acevada?

[rayjayjohnson]

Pff, who cares about your ****** towns.

I am China, I have zero beaners!
You got ricers instead

[Mao Zedong]

******
beaners

That's one weird filter. You can't be racist against one hispanic, but you can against the lot of them.

Works too with dark people?

Fix?

[rayjayjohnson]

******
beaners

That's one weird filter. You can't be racist against one hispanic, but you can against the lot of them.

Works too with dark people?

Fix?

Spics
wops
dagos
wogs
jungle bunnies
jiggaboos
currys

all seems good here tbh

[99 Problems]

Timberwolves

[rayjayjohnson]

True

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lz7mjeLLov1qalc3uo1_500.png

:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao :lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

[Relevancy]

304473337554407424

:lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao What a preservation of Mexican cultureWtf, if your truly a Mexican you wouldn't eat Jack in the Box tacos:lol

[Relevancy]

Crossed the border when I was young, was legally documented a few months later.

That's your USA white people:lmao

[Relevancy]

Faggots

[Trainwreck2100]

In terms of percentage of fanbase is mexican, Spurs. But in terms of sheer numbers lakers

[Relevancy]

Whose fan base consists of more white people? LA or SA?

[Sportcamper]

LA's mayor has Mexican roots...

Interesting, Antonio Villaraigosa's WIKI page reads like he is an NBA Superstar…

In the wake of extensive media coverage of his affair with Spanish-language television reporter, Mirthala Salinas, Villaraigosa announced that he was separating from his wife, and on June 12, 2007, Corina Villaraigosa filed for dissolution of marriage in Los Angeles Superior Court, citing irreconcilable differences. Villaraigosa acknowledged on July 3, 2007, that he was in a relationship with Salinas… As a result of the affair, Salinas was suspended by her employer,Telemundo, forcibly relocated to Riverside,after which she resigned…

In a New Yorker profile published shortly before the divorce, Villaraigosa acknowledged that he and Corina had had difficulties over the course of their marriage. “In a twenty-year marriage, there are many ups and downs," Villaraigosa said…The New Yorker also reported that in 1994, while Corina was undergoing treatment for thyroid cancer, Villaraigosa was involved with a friend's wife..( All Class :lol) and Corina filed for dissolution of marriage at that time…The New Yorker magazine reported that Villaraigosa's actions had infuriated colleagues who had helped portray him as a family man and lost him key supporters…

Villaraigosa had a relationship with Lu Parker, a local television news anchor and 1994 Miss USA, from March 2009… In July 2012, Parker's publicist told the Los Angeles Times that the couple's relationship had ended on May 25, 2012…

[mexpurs21]

Not so simple. Mexicans living in Mexico love the Lakers, as well.

That's not true :lol
Spursfan from México here

[024]

jack in the box tacos are the shit

[Budkin]

Well considering there are a ton of Mexican Laker fans in SA I'd have to say Lakers.

[FkLA]

midnight is such an ignorant fuck, mexican-americans are alot lazier and more prone to take advantage of the system...most illegals are scared to even have any interaction with the government dipshit.

[Black&Silver]

Hispanics =/= Mexicans

hispanics could be Guatemalan, Cuban, Dominican, Colombian, etc

with that being said is there something wrong with being Hispanic?

[jsandiego]

Well considering there are a ton of Mexican Laker fans in SA I'd have to say Lakers.
Winner!

[FkLA]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fr9imilqanQ

:cry But they do the jobs Americans won't :cry

Allright, so I took the time to watch the video.

First off, the anchor baby shit is overplayed by fools like you tbh. The majority of babies of illegal immigrants arent born in border towns like McAllen or for the sole purpose of facilitating citizenship for the parents. Most illegal immigrants come here as adults looking for a better life, at an age were starting a family is common. They have kids here because they want a family just like everyone else not because they want to steal your tax money and have an anchor dumbfuck. I have some family that is here illegally, oldest child is like 8...Im sure once hes 21 and can facilitate citizenship for the parents theyll be open to it (especially since both the parents still have tons of family in Mexico but havent stepped foot there in about 10 years), but to suggest that was the sole purpose behind them having him is ignorant.

Secondly, what makes you think all illegals dont pay taxes? I have some family and know a bunch of other people that are illegal and Ive never met one that doesnt pay taxes like you or I do. Every illegal I know arrives, gets a fake green card and social security card (normally nonexistant # or one that belongs to a deceased person), and starts working. Gets a check and has taxes taken out. Go to the social security website, billions of dollars are collected annually from 'unknown' people...who do you think that is? For a house, they get someone they know that is here legally and have them finance the house for them while they make the payments and pay all the property taxes like anyone else does. Same with renting. Obviously there are niggas that work off the street and get paid on a daily basis who dont report that, but then again how many people actually report stuff like that?

Youre ignorant on the subject, nigga. If youre gonna hate a people atleast have the decency to not be so ignorant about them tbh.

[Dirk Oneanddoneski]

Hispanics =/= Mexicans is there something wrong with being Hispanic?

Well would you like to have shit colored skin where you walk around all day looking like a giant turd?

[BatManu20]

I grew up in SA and now live in LA and I can tell you that it's the Lakers and it's not even close. Every city has Lakers fans, and many of them are hispanic. But they also have a much larger fan base in general so it only makes sense.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

I think it's the Lakers and not particularly close. There are a lot of Southwest united states cities (Phoenix, Salt Lake, etc.) where the entire hispanic population predominantly cheers for the Lakers. They're the Cowboys of the NBA.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Well would you like to have shit colored skin where you walk around all day looking like a giant turd?

:lmao

[mavs>spurs]

with that being said is there something wrong with being Hispanic?


was that question really necessary? i'm thinking you're dirkoneanddoneski's troll, he used you to lob one out there for the home run you little spic BITCH

[FkLA]

people with cum colored skin love to tan in order to try to get that shit color tbh

[mavs>spurs]

nobody is cum colored that isn't humanly possibly unless maybe a black albino comes kind of close try again you idiot piece of shit subhuman

[FkLA]

but yall sure do love to tan and get that shit color aint that right cumboy !!

[midnightpulp]

Allright, so I took the time to watch the video.

First off, the anchor baby shit is overplayed by fools like you tbh. The majority of babies of illegal immigrants arent born in border towns like McAllen or for the sole purpose of facilitating citizenship for the parents. Most illegal immigrants come here as adults looking for a better life, at an age were starting a family is common. They have kids here because they want a family just like everyone else not because they want to steal your tax money and have an anchor dumbfuck. I have some family that is here illegally, oldest child is like 8...Im sure once hes 21 and can facilitate citizenship for the parents theyll be open to it (especially since both the parents still have tons of family in Mexico but havent stepped foot there in about 10 years), but to suggest that was the sole purpose behind them having him is ignorant.

Secondly, what makes you think all illegals dont pay taxes? I have some family and know a bunch of other people that are illegal and Ive never met one that doesnt pay taxes like you or I do. Every illegal I know arrives, gets a fake green card and social security card (normally nonexistant # or one that belongs to a deceased person), and starts working. Gets a check and has taxes taken out. Go to the social security website, billions of dollars are collected annually from 'unknown' people...who do you think that is? For a house, they get someone they know that is here legally and have them finance the house for them while they make the payments and pay all the property taxes like anyone else does. Same with renting. Obviously there are niggas that work off the street and get paid on a daily basis who dont report that, but then again how many people actually report stuff like that?

Youre ignorant on the subject, nigga. If youre gonna hate a people atleast have the decency to not be so ignorant about them tbh.


:lol No wonder you're so touchy about this particular subject.

[DMC]

would you want a Mexican doctor delivering your baby? Hell no. Come to America, have the Indians do it.

[Black&Silver]

was that question really necessary? i'm thinking you're dirkoneanddoneski's troll, he used you to lob one out there for the home run you little spic BITCH

judging by your similar avatars, i'm quite sure that dirkoneandoneski is your troll.

[FkLA]

This nigga writes paragraphs about the smallest lakers related stuff, but only musters up a throwawy one liner. Pussy ass, ignorant dumfuck. :lol

[midnightpulp]

This nigga writes paragraphs about the smallest lakers related stuff, but only musters up a throwawy one liner. Pussy ass, ignorant dumfuck. :lol

Because your entire argument was:

http://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/anecdotal

It wasn't worth a thoughtful reply. UTSA obviously didn't teach you how to debate properly and we'd simply go around in circles. You personally know some hard-working illegals who pay taxes. Good for you :tu

That said, here's some facts about the actual economic impact your people have:


Households headed by illegal aliens imposed more than $26.3 billion in costs on the federal government in 2002 and paid only $16 billion in taxes, creating a net fiscal deficit of almost $10.4 billion, or $2,700 per illegal household.

Among the largest costs are Medicaid ($2.5 billion); treatment for the uninsured ($2.2 billion); food assistance programs such as food stamps, WIC, and free school lunches ($1.9 billion); the federal prison and court systems ($1.6 billion); and federal aid to schools ($1.4 billion).

With nearly two-thirds of illegal aliens lacking a high school degree, the primary reason they create a fiscal deficit is their low education levels and resulting low incomes and tax payments, not their legal status or heavy use of most social services.

On average, the costs that illegal households impose on federal coffers are less than half that of other households, but their tax payments are only one-fourth that of other households.

*Many of the costs associated with illegals are due to their American-born children, who are awarded U.S. citizenship at birth. Thus, greater efforts at barring illegals from federal programs will not reduce costs because their citizen children can continue to access them.

If illegal aliens were given amnesty and began to pay taxes and use services like households headed by legal immigrants with the same education levels, the estimated annual net fiscal deficit would increase from $2,700 per household to nearly $7,700, for a total net cost of $29 billion.

Costs increase dramatically because unskilled immigrants with legal status -- what most illegal aliens would become -- can access government programs, but still tend to make very modest tax payments.

Although legalization would increase average tax payments by 77 percent, average costs would rise by 118 percent.

The fact that legal immigrants with few years of schooling are a large fiscal drain does not mean that legal immigrants overall are a net drain -- many legal immigrants are highly skilled.

The vast majority of illegals hold jobs. Thus the fiscal deficit they create for the federal government is not the result of an unwillingness to work.


The results of this study are consistent with a 1997 study by the National Research Council, which also found that immigrants' education level is a key determinant of their fiscal impact.

http://www.cis.org/High-Cost-of-Cheap-Labor


*"The anchor baby thing is overblown by dumbfucks like you." - FKLA

[PingPong]

The chicos are taking their land back. They learned the lesson get the whole place crowded of su gente then take over it. Like some old crook called Sam Houstoun did years ago. Almost the same for California, everybody ran after the oro...and purple.

:lol:lol

[cheguevara]

plata y negro >>> oro y puto

[Clipper Nation]

but yall sure do love to tan and get that shit color aint that right cumboy !!

lol utsa

[Strategic]

Does this include the Mexicans that check the "I'm white" box for the census?

[midnightpulp]

Because your entire argument was:

http://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/anecdotal

It wasn't worth a thoughtful reply. UTSA obviously didn't teach you how to debate properly and we'd simply go around in circles. You personally know some hard-working illegals who pay taxes. Good for you :tu

That said, here's some facts about the actual economic impact your people have:


Households headed by illegal aliens imposed more than $26.3 billion in costs on the federal government in 2002 and paid only $16 billion in taxes, creating a net fiscal deficit of almost $10.4 billion, or $2,700 per illegal household.

Among the largest costs are Medicaid ($2.5 billion); treatment for the uninsured ($2.2 billion); food assistance programs such as food stamps, WIC, and free school lunches ($1.9 billion); the federal prison and court systems ($1.6 billion); and federal aid to schools ($1.4 billion).

With nearly two-thirds of illegal aliens lacking a high school degree, the primary reason they create a fiscal deficit is their low education levels and resulting low incomes and tax payments, not their legal status or heavy use of most social services.

On average, the costs that illegal households impose on federal coffers are less than half that of other households, but their tax payments are only one-fourth that of other households.

*Many of the costs associated with illegals are due to their American-born children, who are awarded U.S. citizenship at birth. Thus, greater efforts at barring illegals from federal programs will not reduce costs because their citizen children can continue to access them.

If illegal aliens were given amnesty and began to pay taxes and use services like households headed by legal immigrants with the same education levels, the estimated annual net fiscal deficit would increase from $2,700 per household to nearly $7,700, for a total net cost of $29 billion.

Costs increase dramatically because unskilled immigrants with legal status -- what most illegal aliens would become -- can access government programs, but still tend to make very modest tax payments.

Although legalization would increase average tax payments by 77 percent, average costs would rise by 118 percent.

The fact that legal immigrants with few years of schooling are a large fiscal drain does not mean that legal immigrants overall are a net drain -- many legal immigrants are highly skilled.

The vast majority of illegals hold jobs. Thus the fiscal deficit they create for the federal government is not the result of an unwillingness to work.


The results of this study are consistent with a 1997 study by the National Research Council, which also found that immigrants' education level is a key determinant of their fiscal impact.

http://www.cis.org/High-Cost-of-Cheap-Labor


*"The anchor baby thing is overblown by dumbfucks like you." - FKLA

So the conclusion is that bean3rs aren't a drain because they're lazy. It's because they're stupid :lol

[FkLA]

*Many of the costs associated with illegals are due to their American-born children, who are awarded U.S. citizenship at birth. Thus, greater efforts at barring illegals from federal programs will not reduce costs because their citizen children can continue to access them.


*"The anchor baby thing is overblown by dumbfucks like you." - FKLA

The term anchor baby implies that these kids are being popped out as a strategy to prevent deportation and to eventually gain citizenship. Thats ignorant and has nothing to do with the part you asterisked. Im telling you it has more to do with them wanting a family just like everyone else. Anyways, it seems like you and the article take the costs of these kids, who are US citizens and legally entitled to any services they receive and tack them on to the cost of actual illegals. I guess if illegals werent here to begin with their legal babies wouldnt be here, but its still a misleading statistic. It actually pretty much shows that if you exclude the children, and just look at the people that are by law illegal, they provide alot more for the government than they pay. So you can throw the they dont pay taxes bullshit out the window.

That article also states illegal immigrant households cost half as much as an average household, that illegal immigrants account for 0.3 % of the cost of welfare, and that in general they abuse the system a whole lot less than any other demographic. I mean if you wanna be a dickhead and hate them because their American-born babies cost the government money (what kid doesnt cost money?) cool but dont make ignorant generalizations about how they 'spit out anchor babies, get on welfare, and demand that we speakie the spanish'. It makes you look like a bigot.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

illegals also call the fire department and go to the hospital disproportionately more times per capita than any other group which probably isn't factored into those costs. The one time I've been to the hospital in as long as I can remember there were countless be@ners ahead of me who were there because either they or their kid had a tummy ache.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Then again going to the hospital for the most minor bullshit when you don't have medical insurance and expect the state to cover it is a white trash thing too. Calling the fire department however is something Messicans love to do.

[FkLA]

Prisons, Schools, the Uninsured, and Immigration. There are four areas where the estimated costs illegal households impose are much larger than for other households--treatment for the uninsured, federal aid to schools, federal prisons/courts, and the immigration system. Figures for the uninsured simply reflect the fact that such a large share of illegal aliens and their children lack health insurance. With more than half of persons in illegal households lacking health coverage, illegal households account for a very large share of the costs of treating the uninsured. As for schools, although they are primarily paid for by state and local governments, the federal government now provides more than $28 billion for primary and secondary education. Moreover, Washington gives schools some assistance in paying for children with limited English and for the children of agricultural workers. Not surprisingly, illegal households account for a disproportionate share of these programs. Illegal households impose very significant costs on the federal education budget, however, mainly because illegal households have more school-age children on average. The costs for the federal prison and court system are also significant because, although persons in illegal households account for about 3.6 percent of the nation's total population, illegals now account for almost one-fifth of those in federal prison and others processed by the federal courts. Thus, they impose costs on that system that are disproportionally high relative to their share of the total population. This is also true for the immigration system. As indicated in the methodology section, the costs of the immigration system are assigned based on the distribution by household of post-1980 non-citizens. This probably understates the costs of illegals to the immigration system because enforcement alone, which is directed specifically at illegal aliens, accounts for two-thirds of the immigration budget. Nonetheless, it is certainly not surprising that illegal aliens account for a large share of the costs of the immigration system because so much of that system is focused specifically on them.

^The hospital visits are included, Im assuming calling the fire department would be included in cost of household but not sure. The prison cost is just the government being stupid, if anybody should be getting deported its those niggas.

[PingPong]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITK84zpB_JU

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

They get deported, come back and commit more crimes. Deporting illegals who commit crimes has proven itself as a failed procedure.

Why do illegals go to the hospital every time they get an upset stomach tho, serious question? Are they that enamored with a country that has modern medicine that going to hospitals is like going to a museum for them? They should take a bus to Canada if efficient healthcare is so amazing to them.

[midnightpulp]

The term anchor baby implies that these kids are being popped out as a strategy to prevent deportation and to eventually gain citizenship. Thats ignorant and has nothing to do with the part you asterisked. Im telling you it has more to do with them wanting a family just like everyone else. Anyways, it seems like you and the article take the costs of these kids, who are US citizens and legally entitled to any services they receive and tack them on to the cost of actual illegals. I guess if illegals werent here to begin with their legal babies wouldnt be here, but its still a misleading statistic. It actually pretty much shows that illegals that if you exclude the children the actual illegals provide alot more for the government than they pay. So you can throw the they dont pay taxes bullshit out the window.

That article also states illegal immigrant households cost half as much as an average household, that illegal immigrants account for 0.3 % of the cost of welfare, and that in general they abuse the system a whole lot less than any other demographic. I mean if you wanna be a dickhead and hate them because their American-born babies cost the government money (what doesnt cost money?) cool but dont make ignorant generalizations about how they 'spit out anchor babies, get on welfare, and demand that we speakie the spanish'. It makes you look like a bigot.


It actually pretty much shows that illegals that if you exclude the children the actual illegals provide alot more for the government than they pay. So you can throw the they dont pay taxes bullshit out the window.

But we can't "exclude the children," because, you know, they are their fuckin' children. It's not a misleading statistic at all, since the people having those babies are ILLEGAL immigrants and have no legal right to be in the United States. The resulting economic impact of those births has every right to "be tacked on to the cost of illegals" because it's the illegals who are having them. You just can't "exclude it" because you feel like it.

"He isn't such a bad guy. Just exclude the fact that he murdered 17 people, and his existence is actually beneficial!"


That article also states illegal immigrant households cost half as much as an average household,

And pay 1/4th the taxes, meaning they are more of a net drain overall than an average household. Was basic math part of the curriculum at UTSA?

Bottom line: Your people have a negative effect on the U.S. economy.

[FkLA]

I dont know tbh. The illegals Ive come across arent really like unless its their kids, since theyre overly protective of them. Actually had a friend a couple of years ago that had a beer bottle cracked on his head and he wasnt willing to go to the hospital because he was afraid.

[midnightpulp]

They get deported, come back and commit more crimes. Deporting illegals who commit crimes has proven itself as a failed procedure.

Why do illegals go to the hospital every time they get an upset stomach tho, serious question? Are they that enamored with a country that has modern medicine that going to hospitals is like going to a museum for them? They should take a bus to Canada if efficient healthcare is so amazing to them.

Because if it's free, why not?

Plus, little Juan gets a free lolipop from the nice doctor.

[FkLA]

But we can't "exclude the children," because, you know, they are their fuckin' children. It's not a misleading statistic at all, since the people having those babies are ILLEGAL immigrants and have no legal right to be in the United States. The resulting economic impact of those births has every right to "be tacked on to the cost of illegals" because it's the illegals who are having them. You just can't "exclude it" because you feel like it.

"He isn't such a bad guy. Just exclude the fact that he murdered 17 people, and his existence is actually beneficial!"



And pay 1/4th the taxes, meaning they are more of a net drain overall than an average household. Was basic math part of the curriculum at UTSA?

Bottom line: Your people have a negative effect on the U.S. economy.

I acknowledged that, didnt I? I said if you wanna be an asshole and hate a group of people because their babies cost the government money then cool but the other shit was just ignorant, bigotry on your part.

[midnightpulp]

http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscal17.gif

"But they cost half as much!"

[midnightpulp]

I acknowledged that, didnt I? I said if you wanna be an asshole and hate a group of people because their babies cost the government money then cool but the other shit was just ignorant, bigotry on your part.

My ignorance is just as a "legitimate" as your ignorance, since my experience with illegals has been negative. The majority of illegals I've encountered behaved like I described: Demanding, entitled, arrogant, and just downright repulsive. And yes, it is an ignorant point-of-view, since it's anecdotal, just like your feel-good stories of illegals being upstanding, contributing members of society who want nothing more than a family and a better life.

I also live in Southern California, and we simply have a different breed of bean3r than you do in Texas. Many illegals out here are criminal gangbangers.

[jag]

San Antonio - 61.2% Mexican or Latino.

Wow, what a nightmare. I can't even remember the last time I saw a Mexican here.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Why is it that when illegals want a "family" they feel the need to pop out 7-8 welfare babies? White people (non-mormon) usually stop at 2-3 babies and call it a day.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

San Antonio - 61.2% Mexican or Latino.

Wow, what a nightmare. I can't even remember the last time I saw a Mexican here.

_JaG, coming out of the bushes from nowhere and harrassing shit-skinned people in the rectangular area under the rim.

[jag]

The worst part about the politics of LA and SA is that politicians will never legitimately do anything to crack down on illegals because their campaigns are entirely dependent on pandering to mexicans so they can get votes. It's a vicious cycle that will only result in more and more barbacoa restaurants filled with illegals.

[jag]

_JaG, coming out of the bushes from nowhere and harrassing shit-skinned people in the rectangular area under the rim.

:lol "out of the bushes"

[mavs>spurs]

LMAO when an illegal wetback sneaks over the border and pops out little baby beans at 15,000-20,000 a pop and uses that get to get food and housing assistance that is every bit part of the cost of illegal immigration, they never should have changed it to where if you're born here you're a "citizen" having 2 citizen parents should be the real requirement so we can start picking off you parasites like ticks.

You fucks aren't wanted here that's why i make it a point to scoff you and spit on you wherever i go. when the 2nd american revolution pops off you fucks will get exterminated like a bad termite infestation tbh.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

:lol

cool avatar btw

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

LMAO when an illegal wetback sneaks over the border and pops out little baby beans at 15,000-20,000 a pop and uses that get to get food and housing assistance that is every bit part of the cost of illegal immigration, they never should have changed it to where if you're born here you're a "citizen" having 2 citizen parents should be the real requirement so we can start picking off you parasites like ticks.
:cry they just want a family :cry

[jag]

pops out little baby beans

:lmao I'm so glad I didn't miss this thread.

[PingPong]

Why do illegals go to the hospital every time they get an upset stomach tho, serious question? Are they that enamored with a country that has modern medicine that going to hospitals is like going to a museum for them? They should take a bus to Canada if efficient healthcare is so amazing to them.

Probably they do in their country too. I don't know about mexicans, but most of the latin people or poor people are kind of hypochondriacs. And there are something related to the psychological need of receiving attention from somebody too.



I dont know tbh. The illegals Ive come across arent really like unless its their kids, since theyre overly protective of them. Actually had a friend a couple of years ago that had a beer bottle cracked on his head and he wasnt willing to go to the hospital because he was afraid.

This is a very catholic and latin thing. When I was in Japan, there was some reports of japanese prison staff wondering about how the latin families are supportive to their children even when they commit crimes. The japanese, chinese and koreans usually let them rooting alone in jail, giving tough love.

[HarlemHeat37]

This is a very catholic and latin thing. When I was in Japan, there was some reports of japanese prison staff wondering about how the latin families are supportive to their children even when they commit crimes. The japanese, chinese and koreans usually let them rooting alone in jail, giving tough love.

I think that's just an Asian thing, tbh:lol..

Asians are pretty ruthless and cruel people, tbh..animal abuse capital of the world..strange game shows that include human suffering..snuff movie enthusiasts..etc..

It's not surprising that they wouldn't give a fuck about family members in jail..

[PingPong]

I think that's just an Asian thing, tbh:lol..

Asians are pretty ruthless and cruel people, tbh..animal abuse capital of the world..strange game shows that include human suffering..snuff movie enthusiasts..etc..

It's not surprising that they wouldn't give a fuck about family members in jail..

Well nowadays they got far better than before. Until some decades ago, they would sell their kids or even their grown daughter to the brodels or some rich old crook. And and stuff like that.

[FkLA]

http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscal17.gif

"But they cost half as much!"

Technically they do cost half as much. Their tax contributions are just smaller. :lol

Its also kind of misleading too imo. I dont think it makes a distinction between illegal immigrant household that 'work on the books' and those that dont. If thats the case the average federal payment would be brought down significantly by those households that dont work on the books. The people that work on the books, which is the majority of illegals, actually pay their share. In the grand scheme they do cost money, but individually the majority dont.


My ignorance is just as a "legitimate" as your ignorance, since my experience with illegals has been negative. The majority of illegals I've encountered behaved like I described: Demanding, entitled, arrogant, and just downright repulsive. And yes, it is an ignorant point-of-view, since it's anecdotal, just like your feel-good stories of illegals being upstanding, contributing members of society who want nothing more than a family and a better life.

I also live in Southern California, and we simply have a different breed of bean3r than you do in Texas. Many illegals out here are criminal gangbangers.

The welfare thing was dumb, man. Theres no basis for that. Throwing the term anchor baby out there is ignorant too. The entitlement shit...Ive come across alot of illegals or even strictly spanish-speaking legal Mexicans and I have honest to god never heard one claim that there should be Spanish signs or that Americans should learn Spanish. I always hear angry Americans say that illegals expect those things (how do yall understand what they say anyway?) but Ive never seen it personally. And those that do do that, I would agree that its stupid of them to expect things like that.

Im also not naive enough to think all illegals are good. Ive never encountered one, but like with any other people there are bad seeds.

[mavs>spurs]

the government will never be honest about the costs. they want the mexicans here (pretty obvious because they're here) in order to lower wages for the corporations who control them and also to usher in the NWO and vote for shit like gun confiscation and taking away civil rights, and the creation of an eventual north american union. bean3rs are dumb by nature and don't know any better, and the smart caucasians and jews running the world know this. you stupid fucks are just pawns in the rich mans game of chess. you brown turd looking fucks have already destroyed healthcare and driven down the wages..this damage won't be measured in some fancy federal costs chart. but again you're a fucking idiot so i wouldn't expect you to know any of this. it just proves my point, be@ners are dumb and gullible and look to the government for assistance. your go to thing was to look to the government for a way to show us big mean internet bullies. you're a joke and your home country is full of people like you, that's why they're POOR.

[FkLA]

the government will never be honest about the costs. they want the mexicans here (pretty obvious because they're here) in order to lower wages for the corporations who control them and also to usher in the NWO and vote for shit like gun confiscation and taking away civil rights, and the creation of an eventual north american union. bean3rs are dumb by nature and don't know any better, and the smart caucasians and jews running the world know this. you stupid fucks are just pawns in the rich mans game of chess. you brown turd looking fucks have already destroyed healthcare and driven down the wages..this damage won't be measured in some fancy federal costs chart. but again you're a fucking idiot so i wouldn't expect you to know any of this. it just proves my point, be@ners are dumb and gullible and look to the government for assistance. your go to thing was to look to the government for a way to show us big mean internet bullies. you're a joke and your home country is full of people like you, that's why they're POOR.

midnight provided that link you conspiracy theorist, dumbfuck...

[mavs>spurs]

it's not a conspiracy that illegals are dumb, bad, irresponsible people shit for skin :lol

[irishock]

:lmao a Nazi trolling the F out of all of you

[FkLA]

hide your kids obama is the leader of the NWO and hes trying to circumcise all of them !!

[mavs>spurs]

another annoying thing be@ners do: that whole fake machismo thing to overcompensate for their overall lack of manliness. the average 5'4 feminine wetback ain't shit with the hands homeboy and u know it. as far as worldwide race rankings go, wetbacks are probably the worst race in existence. average 85 overall iq, short, fat, physically weak, poor because they can't build wealth, pompous, annoying, entitled, just terrible.

[FkLA]

if you ever stepped up to me this is what would happen cumboy...

http://cdn3.sbnation.com/imported_assets/1336819/699349861_medium_medium.gif

[TDMVPDPOY]

i see the black americans in this thread are trying to coat ride the white clowns tea bagging the cholos, latinos, hispanics or any illegals here....

arent unemployed cash in hand/welfare black americans also a big problem just like illegals?

[Relevancy]

if you ever stepped up to me this is what would happen cumboy...

http://cdn3.sbnation.com/imported_assets/1336819/699349861_medium_medium.gifAll the Filipino fans:cry:cry:cry they came all cocky and look what happened:lol

[Relevancy]

i see the black americans in this thread are trying to coat ride the white clowns tea bagging the cholos, latinos, hispanics or any illegals here....

arent unemployed cash in hand/welfare black americans also a big problem just like illegals?Everyone is a fucking problem, even you you fucking dutch faggot. Can't you see? everyone wants to categorize each other so they can feel their worth a damn on this world.

[ezau]

LOL at white people calling Mexicans illegals when they've been living in North and South America for thousands of years. How convenient white people distort history to suit their needs :lol

[Latarian Milton]

both cities are rather close to the border so it's fair to say they both have big populations of mexian descent, but when it comes to the total number or the % of mexicans on their fan bases, lakers beat the spurs with a well margin imho. lakers have more glamor than spurs and even though the numbers of mexicans living in those cities are similar, lakers have a lot more fans in mexico as well as any other country.

[RudyRay]

the government will never be honest about the costs. they want the mexicans here (pretty obvious because they're here) in order to lower wages for the corporations who control them and also to usher in the NWO and vote for shit like gun confiscation and taking away civil rights, and the creation of an eventual north american union. bean3rs are dumb by nature and don't know any better, and the smart caucasians and jews running the world know this. you stupid fucks are just pawns in the rich mans game of chess. you brown turd looking fucks have already destroyed healthcare and driven down the wages..this damage won't be measured in some fancy federal costs chart. but again you're a fucking idiot so i wouldn't expect you to know any of this. it just proves my point, be@ners are dumb and gullible and look to the government for assistance. your go to thing was to look to the government for a way to show us big mean internet bullies. you're a joke and your home country is full of people like you, that's why they're POOR.

Are you talking about Illegals or any person of brown skin (American or not)? I am a Mexican AMERICAN of at least 3 generations and I am not poor. I make a very comfortable living and have white people working for me, as well as blacks. I served my country as a SGT in the Marine Corps and for you to say we are dumb and poor is proof that you are an idot just like the sorry ass team you cheer for. I see you have a pic of Jason Terry, are you black? I didn't realize that there were so many racist people on this forum.

[PingPong]

LOL at white people calling Mexicans illegals when they've been living in North and South America for thousands of years. How convenient white people distort history to suit their needs :lol

The americans stole their land (I mean California and Texas) and nowadays complain about those little fat balls taking over again. And the fu*ing niggas living under the social security and food stamps who consider themselves americans? Well, at least the chicos improve their financial and social status generation after generation. The niggas and the white trash will be under the state umbrella for generations, ever and forever...

[jag]

If you got an education, have a job, pay taxes, have no felonies, don't throw trash in your yard, and dress in an appropriate manner, then you are not the subject of this thread.

[NRHector]

Are you talking about Illegals or any person of brown skin (American or not)? I am a Mexican AMERICAN of at least 3 generations and I am not poor. I make a very comfortable living and have white people working for me, as well as blacks. I served my country as a SGT in the Marine Corps and for you to say we are dumb and poor is proof that you are an idot just like the sorry ass team you cheer for. I see you have a pic of Jason Terry, are you black? I didn't realize that there were so many racist people on this forum.

they are racist and idiots

[thunderup]

they are racist and idiots

This is a pretty liberal forum where anything goes. I don't get caught up with all the racism but as a bystander it's pretty bad.