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timvp
02-23-2013, 02:41 AM
Tony Parker C
Didn’t live up to MVP expectation. Ran out of gas by the fourth quarter. Looked battered and tired.

Tim Duncan B-
Strong production across the board but not efficient enough on offense. Mobility on D also subpar.

Manu Ginobili B-
Couldn’t hit a three but competed and found ways to produce. Still a work in progress; herky-jerky tonight.

Kawhi Leonard B
Stout D. Excelled man-to-man and help-wise. O wasn’t smooth but showed promising depth to his game.

Danny Green A-
Continues to roll on O. Hit multiple big shots. D wavered from acceptable to great. Oozing with confidence.

Tiago Splitter C+
Authored a few notable plays but just didn’t produce enough. He needed to be better on the boards.

Boris Diaw C-
Didn’t shoot it enough. Not enough rebounding. Pretty passes negated by sloppiness.

Matt Bonner C
Decent defensively but weak on the glass. Didn’t impact the offense much at all.

Patrick Mills C
D looked active but results were poor. Didn’t get involved on O. Limited mistakes but Spurs needed more.

Gary Neal D-
Terrible on defense; just really, really bad. Couldn’t hit a shot no matter how open.

Nando De Colo C-
Blended into the background too much. D was underwhelming.

DeJuan Blair Inc.
Fantastic burst of play when he entered. Shortly came back down to Earth shortly thereafter, however.

Pop D
Putting Neal on Curry in 4th was worst coaching move of the season. Befuddled by the their small ball lineups.

racm
02-23-2013, 02:43 AM
It used to be that the Spurs were decent when they went small, but for some reason Golden State was even better when they played Lee at center.

Of course I realize Finley was frequently played at the 4 back in those days and that was turrible.

Tony should see a doc for his shoulders.

racm
02-23-2013, 02:44 AM
Also, to all the cliff jumpers: Championships are not won in February.

SpurPadre
02-23-2013, 02:51 AM
Also, to all the cliff jumpers: Championships are not won in February.

Jarret Jack didn't get that memo, apparently. I swear I can hear the guy screaming like a little bitch from where I live, 30 minutes away from Oakland.

racm
02-23-2013, 02:58 AM
Jarret Jack didn't get that memo, apparently. I swear I can hear the guy screaming like a little bitch from where I live, 30 minutes away from Oakland.

The guy always has career games against San Antonio because of his playing style (live and die by the midrange jumper).

Hasn't won jack though.

FuzzyLumpkins
02-23-2013, 03:15 AM
I was annoyed down the stretch that they tried to force the issue with Parker and Duncan despite double teams and defensive hedging. Leonard did not even sniff the ball. He was shooting 3-5 from inside the 3 and he was being ignored on the weakside. Green was getting straight to the rim from the strongside but he is at best a mediocre finisher. That and Neal passing up open looks on the wing and I was more than a little unhappy.

That being said GS was at home and treating this like it was an elimination game in the WCF. By the 4th quarter you could tell Parker ran out of gas.

superjames1992
02-23-2013, 03:26 AM
The microball lineup with Tony and Patty at the guard positions and Blair at center should give Pop an F, tbh.

justinandimcool
02-23-2013, 03:38 AM
Another case of super athletic, highly motivated, tough nosed youngins beating up on classyball.

Execution is great, energy was poor. Ran out of gas. Gotta match the intensity especially in that arena.

BatManu20
02-23-2013, 03:49 AM
The microball lineup with Tony and Patty at the guard positions and Blair at center should give Pop an F, tbh.

Not sure what he was thinking there.. It immediately hurt us, especially defensively. I never want to see that again.

crc21209
02-23-2013, 04:02 AM
I didn't understand or like the Neal-Blair combo in the 4th or the TP-Mills combo either. Pop really couldn't have gone with another guard at that spot?

Boomersgold
02-23-2013, 04:12 AM
The microball lineup with Tony and Patty at the guard positions and Blair at center should give Pop an F, tbh.

The Manu-Patty lineup worked much better, tbh. Got us that lead in the 4th.

chapnis
02-23-2013, 04:40 AM
The call that gave the Warriors the ball when it was clearly off Curry and swung the momentum of the game F

Hoops Czar
02-23-2013, 05:18 AM
Blew a 13 point 4th quarter lead in under 3 minutes and the inability to hit a pair of freethrows cost the Spurs the game.Tiago continues to unimpressive. The Spurs need to think long and hard about whether or not Splitter's worth 8M+ per year. And if someone is willing to pay that price, goodbye!!!

ego
02-23-2013, 05:55 AM
I saw only the last quarter and for this quarter I think it's difficult to give B- at TD and Manu. The end of this match was horrible.

weeks
02-23-2013, 06:17 AM
games like this remind me of how spoiled i am as a fan. i still get morose after losses

bbarry
02-23-2013, 07:03 AM
grades seem rather low for basically just losing by a possession or two in a OT game on the road against one of the better teams in the West.

what would they have been if spurs won by 1 possession instead? they seem kind of biased. too many c's

Darkwaters
02-23-2013, 07:39 AM
Not a bad loss to be honest. Sure, the Spurs played like crap, but you're not always going to be super sharp throughout an 82 game season. The fact remains that the Spurs offense sputtered, but the defense locked in and kept the game tight and winnable despite all odds. Frankly, having experience in tight gutsy games, and overtime matches, is probably exactly what the Spurs really need...not more blowout wins where we coast through the final 20 minutes. And this was against a capable playoff team, not a garbage team like the Suns or essentially any Eastern Conference team outside of Miami. Plus it was on the second night of a road back-to-back against two playoff teams.

All and all, it could have been much much worse: we could have been clipper'd by 30 points in our own building.

wildbill2u
02-23-2013, 08:31 AM
1. I don't think Kwahi took a shot in the last quarter. He didn't score there. Whether it was the fault of the guards or his not asserting himself, that can't happen if we want to play at our best.
2. Diaw is overrated. Pretty passes? Only 2 assists from those pretty passes. Won't shoot so he doesn't help space the floor by drawing off defenders. 2 defensive rebounds.
3. Tiago spent too much time on the bench. The guy has proved to be an effective player in all areas so you have to let him play, especially if Pop wants to limit TD minutes.
4. Don't understand Pop letting Duncan play so many minutes.
5. Neal has been in a slump lately. Nothing to do but let him work himself out of it.


This will be a better road trip than I predicted regardless of what happens in Phoenix. GS is a good team, especially at home, and on a back to back after the great win in LA it isn't too surprising that we lost.

Strategic
02-23-2013, 08:47 AM
grades seem rather low for basically just losing by a possession or two in a OT game on the road against one of the better teams in the West.



This.

Spurs managed to stay in it even with Jack and Lee dominating the game. Parker's inabilty to get the first step on Thompson seemed to trigger all that failed with the Spurs offense. While I'm comfortable with Leonard and Green dribbling and moving toward the basket on offense, it changes the flow. Though it is only one game and not going to take much from the L, the Dubs perimeter defense may remind the Spurs to dust off some old plays, just hopefully it's not TP and TD playing pick and roll. I was concerned the Spurs would be on a two game losing streak today, so just having this one loss is still a decent proposal. Now let's see if the good guys can take care of business in Phoenix.

superbigtime
02-23-2013, 09:09 AM
Horribly coached game. Neal plus Green together was odd too. lots and lots of lineup shuffling. Tim had a pretty un-clutch game. I predicted this loss after a win vs LAC. Lee was pretty fantastic. I wish Spurs had Jarrett Jack instead of Neal, lol (or patty or nando).

tmtcsc
02-23-2013, 09:16 AM
I agree with the comments on Pop. Terrible line-up choices. I also thought he left the guys in too long. They were obviously getting gassed.
I'm not worried about the loss. The Spurs were spectacular against the Clippers and sent a message. Golden St. won the equivalent of a regular season Championship for them and will probably lose their next game. It happens all the time.

John B
02-23-2013, 09:17 AM
Spurs just run out of gas on OT on a 2nd night of a B2B playing against a better defensive team at their home. Still I don't understand the subtitution after Spurs went up by 10. Also Manu should have started the OT he was playing great esp if TP was already tired. Also I'm not happy with our PNR D down the stretch, Tim was too slow putting a hand on the shooters face. That's how we lost in OKC and come playoffs that would be exploited. But then again the Spurs was probably just tired last night. Go Spurs Go!

Raven
02-23-2013, 09:22 AM
seriously, what is up with danny green?

jyra
02-23-2013, 10:03 AM
You really have to give credit to the Warrios defense for this game. The decision to switch to a zone in the last one and a half minutes or so was huge and really confused the Spurs offense. First, Manu's pass was deflected which led to an easy transition layup and the next time down the floor they managed to force Danny Green into a long contested 2 off the dribble.

Ice009
02-23-2013, 10:38 AM
The only player I am happy with after this game is Danny Green. Great effort from Danny. I really hope his finishing is coming along and that it has actually improved, rather than him just having a couple of good games near the rim. I hope this is actual improvement that he has been working on starting to pay off for him and the Spurs.

And that fuckwit Pop, putting Gary Neal on Stephen Curry lost the game for the Spurs. One of the worst defensive moves he's made this season. It reminded me of the Lakers game 1 in 2008 where he put Udoka on Bryant, that was worse, but this has got to be right up there. Never put a freaking fire starter on a guy who is a great scorer and been held down, you're just asking for trouble. Absolutely stupid decision by Pop.

101A
02-23-2013, 10:51 AM
3rd game in 4; young athletic team. Ran out of gas. Next. If the Spurs DON'T lose THIS game - what, 70 win season?

Cane
02-23-2013, 11:06 AM
I didn't like that Pop subbed out Ginobili after making the game tying bucket. I think it messed up the flow of the game and you could see it in Duncan's passing too in OT, and it may have clued GSW in on Ginobili's play more when he did check in....

Oh well

freetiago
02-23-2013, 11:13 AM
Parker disappearing act is the most worrying thing from this game
put bigger defender on him
pack the paint
disappear

silverblk mystix
02-23-2013, 11:31 AM
Parker disappearing act is the most worrying thing from this game
put bigger defender on him
pack the paint
disappear


Relax

He came down a little after destroying the clips

superjames1992
02-23-2013, 12:14 PM
The Manu-Patty lineup worked much better, tbh. Got us that lead in the 4th.

Yes, it did, tbh. Pop took Manu out and it all went to hell in short order.

superjames1992
02-23-2013, 12:15 PM
Where was Captain Jack tonight, btw?

And Neal was awful, per par, tbh.

Spur|n|Austin
02-23-2013, 12:21 PM
Parker disappearing act is the most worrying thing from this game
put bigger defender on him
pack the paint
disappear

ONE GAME

benstanfield
02-23-2013, 12:26 PM
Spurs did this really cool thing where they screen for the screener, so his man is completely out of position to react to the main PnR. We play a really avante garde style of basketball that is awesome to watch.

Pretty smart play for the Warriors when they screened so Duncan switched to Jack and Parker to Lee, swung the ball around and drove so that Duncan instinctively collapsed, and kicked back out to an open Jack. Recognized that we were switching on screens and used Duncan's instincts against him.

Good basketball last night


minus the refs who were complete dogshit

Fabbs
02-23-2013, 12:26 PM
Pop D
Putting Neal on Curry in 4th was worst coaching move of the season. Befuddled by the their small ball lineups.
We all (PollyAnna Poppers and Realists alike) can agree that:
a. It's just a reg season game.
b. All coaches make errors.

That having been said, are we going to get more Popper Befuddlement 2008-12 come this 2013 playoffs?

Chomag
02-23-2013, 12:28 PM
Pop made this a harder game then it should have been. Oh well, Spurs were just not on it for this game.

benstanfield
02-23-2013, 12:33 PM
And when they collapse the paint, of course Parker is going to struggle. Then the only way to un-collapse the paint is to hit outside shots and run the fast break, neither of which were clicking last night. I think it's encouraging to see a game where the other team is able to shut down Parker (and notably make him defer to Manu in the waning minutes) AND we are terrible from outside, and yet we still are able to stay in the game via defense. This is what we will need to do in the playoffs, because teams ARE going to shut down the paint and make us hit outside shots, but on a terrible shooting night we need to be able to fall back on the D.

Chomag
02-23-2013, 12:48 PM
And when they collapse the paint, of course Parker is going to struggle. Then the only way to un-collapse the paint is to hit outside shots and run the fast break, neither of which were clicking last night. I think it's encouraging to see a game where the other team is able to shut down Parker (and notably make him defer to Manu in the waning minutes) AND we are terrible from outside, and yet we still are able to stay in the game via defense. This is what we will need to do in the playoffs, because teams ARE going to shut down the paint and make us hit outside shots, but on a terrible shooting night we need to be able to fall back on the D.

Agreed man, this is how most teams have beaten the Spurs in the playoffs. (collapse the lane and close out fast on the 3 point shooters) The more authletic teams are killer at doing that when they ramp up the D for playoff mode, because they have the length to pack the middle but still have the speed, and quickness to close out on the shooters.

I just would feel allot more comfortable if Spurs had at least one more decent post up player to pound it in when things get ugly. Timmy is the only player with a post game like that.

boutons_deux
02-23-2013, 12:49 PM
"in the game via defense"

Warriors missed a ton of open jumpers, so either are defense sucked or the Warriors' offense played right to get their guys open.

42% GSW to 39% SAS, a crappy shooting game all around.

SpurPadre
02-23-2013, 12:50 PM
And when they collapse the paint, of course Parker is going to struggle. Then the only way to un-collapse the paint is to hit outside shots and run the fast break, neither of which were clicking last night. I think it's encouraging to see a game where the other team is able to shut down Parker (and notably make him defer to Manu in the waning minutes) AND we are terrible from outside, and yet we still are able to stay in the game via defense. This is what we will need to do in the playoffs, because teams ARE going to shut down the paint and make us hit outside shots, but on a terrible shooting night we need to be able to fall back on the D.

You're looking for positives, which is cool but we also have to look at the legit concerns and there are some to ponder. One of of which is Neal's recent slump and all around inconsistent play. We need him to get his shot back ASAP but then again, even when he does, we still have to worry about him being a chucker who takes the ball off Manu's hands too many times. The thing with TP struggling when he's Sefolosha'd or when the paint is packed is that he doesn't have a Plan B. Sure, deferring to TD and Manu is a great fallback but you have to take what the defense gives you. While TP was still taking jumpers, he still stubbornly tried to attack the paint when he didn't have a clear path. And even with our D being much better now than last year, we're still not a good rebounding team and 2nd chance opportunities loom huge in a close-knit playoff series. Teams with younger legs and more athleticism will try to exploit our deficiency in that area. Winning the 50/50 battles will be of the utmost importance and it will be a tough task.

Brunodf
02-23-2013, 01:27 PM
1- we would have won this game if Blair/Bonner/Neal had been traded.
2- Kawhi scored 2 easy baskets in the post when they had Thompson on Parker, why not run more plays for him?
3- Spurs can't get stops playing small and micro ball forces TD to defend the PnR...

TMTTRIO
02-23-2013, 01:57 PM
by the way what's up with Manu's bad FT shooting? He used to do them consistently well for the most part and lately this season he's been pretty bad (last night when it was clutch time he missed one of them and almost missed the second one too). Out of everyting in his game that's one part that I expect him to still do well.

TJastal
02-23-2013, 02:17 PM
Yep it's clear that Pop is heading back to his old stubborn ways instead of learning and adapting

TJastal
02-23-2013, 02:22 PM
It's also clear that the teams 2nd unit is struggling ... u can't have 3 guys (4 if you count manu) all getting random minutes at the pg position .. it's not going to work. Pop needs to make a decision one way or another. Seems to me that the Neal experiment at point guard is a fail. Manu and Patty play well together which makes it a no brainer imo. DeColo & Mills should get thhe minutes.

Mugen
02-23-2013, 02:23 PM
Klay did a good job on TP last night. I can attribute a lot of it to TP being gassed, but i had flashes of Sefolosha in the WCF. Parker has played unbelievable this season but I'm still not sold that he can perform at the same level when teams throw length with quickness at him.

TJastal
02-23-2013, 02:35 PM
Pop getting all star coach nod probably worst thing to happen... just blew up his head even furthur and reinforced that he must be right. Expect more of the same (lineups/rotations that make no sense)

Obstructed_View
02-23-2013, 03:35 PM
All that passing that people raved about against the Clippers disappeared in Oakland.

No Jack. WTF? Could have used him. See my next point...

Pop looked like he was trying to find a way to lose that game. There's a really soft schedule coming up, and he's probably quite unhappy with ESPN now calling the Spurs "the best team in the NBA" instead of "the best team in the NBA, record-wise". He's likely hoping the upcoming 8 game winning streak passes under the radar.

Neal on Curry in the 4th quarter? Switching on pick and rolls with 2 minutes to go? See my previous point...

Danny Green hit two layups off the dribble. That's got to be some kind of record. Do you think he's suddenly become someone we want handling the ball? Me, neither.

Kawhi's ability to create his own shot is really starting to show. This is a guy people were concerned about just dribbling the ball last year. He's put in a lot of work. That said, he single-handedly let the Warriors and the crowd back into the game early on. That's as bad as letting a shooter get hot.

I vastly preferred the Gary Neal who shot without a conscience to this current Gary Neal who passes up shots when open. If the Spurs are in "look for the best shot" mode, Gary's the recipient, not the provider. Shoot the fucking ball, choochoo. If Pop doesn't want you to shoot when you're open, he'll put you on the bench.

cd021
02-23-2013, 03:35 PM
Blew a 13 point 4th quarter lead in under 3 minutes and the inability to hit a pair of freethrows cost the Spurs the game.Tiago continues to unimpressive. The Spurs need to think long and hard about whether or not Splitter's worth 8M+ per year. And if someone is willing to pay that price, goodbye!!!

When Splitter was in the game we were better defensively. Except for OT when we couldn't stop even the wizards. He has been more than solid 8 million is a good deal for a player like him

wildbill2u
02-23-2013, 03:40 PM
Teams aren't stupid. They know that the way to beat these Spurs is to stop Parker.

Pop isn't stupid either. He has to produce an option when Parker is stopped. Easier said than done because the offense is built around Tony and we sometimes get confused when he's having problems.

In the past, it was Manu and Tony and Duncan in the 4th quarter--but Manu was the key since he could control the game at the end with his FT ability. It was interesting to hear Manu comment after the Clipper game about how long it had been since he and Tony worked together on the floor.

024
02-23-2013, 05:39 PM
parker was obviously going to struggle this game. the warriors had a good defensive game plan to stop him and it was a back to back. it was up to the others to step up but they didn't.

ginobili played just as poor as parker. he chucked bricks and still looks broken out there. even though the stat sheet only shows 2 turnovers, there are plenty of plays where he dribbles and trips or where he forces bad passes that all lead to broken plays and bad shots. giving him that much control of the offense is questionable but pop didn't have much choice with neal and duncan also getting poor shots. this just shows parker is still the head of the snake, cut him off and the rest of the team struggles to produce.

therealtruth
02-23-2013, 06:11 PM
We all (PollyAnna Poppers and Realists alike) can agree that:
b. All coaches make errors.

That having been said, are we going to get more Popper Befuddlement 2008-12 come this 2013 playoffs?

The problem is Pop doesn't seem to learn from his mistakes.

maverick1948
02-23-2013, 06:13 PM
1- we would have won this game if Blair/Bonner/Neal had been traded.
2- Kawhi scored 2 easy baskets in the post when they had Thompson on Parker, why not run more plays for him?
3- Spurs can't get stops playing small and micro ball forces TD to defend the PnR...

It is sad that the only reason we lost is because we didnt trade Blair/Bonner/Neal. It appears to me that Bonner had about the same stat line as the Absolutely the Greatest Boris Diaw.

We lost because we didnt score enough points in the 1st half to matter. Yes D was there but the O was horrible. TP woith 3 assists total is a disgrace. Somebody just anybody making a couple of shots in the 1st half would have been nice. The big 3 were 21 of 51 for the night. Not exactly what you look for in a game from them. Pitch in Neal and Diaw at 0-8 and you got disaster.

There never should have been an overtime. We should have been out of the game before 1st half ended.

Brunodf
02-23-2013, 06:24 PM
It is sad that the only reason we lost is because we didnt trade Blair/Bonner/Neal. It appears to me that Bonner had about the same stat line as the Absolutely the Greatest Boris Diaw.

We lost because we didnt score enough points in the 1st half to matter. Yes D was there but the O was horrible. TP woith 3 assists total is a disgrace. Somebody just anybody making a couple of shots in the 1st half would have been nice. The big 3 were 21 of 51 for the night. Not exactly what you look for in a game from them. Pitch in Neal and Diaw at 0-8 and you got disaster.

There never should have been an overtime. We should have been out of the game before 1st half ended.

Spurs had a 13 points lead in the 4th, wtf are u smoking? Micro ball killed us.

EVAY
02-23-2013, 06:30 PM
It is hard for me to be convinced that we still have a "big three" when we lose when Parker is taken out of the game for whatever reason: exhaustion, worn out shoulders from having carried the team for so much of this season and last season as well, bruised arms (recent press release), whatever. Tony took almost no shots in the fourth quarter. If we can't count on Tim and Manu to carry us even a little bit every once in a while, this is going to be a short post season.

More proof that Tony is really the MVP of this team. When he is shut down, we can't win. No one else stepping up.

HarlemHeat37
02-23-2013, 06:51 PM
Duncan looked absolutely terrible, tbh..

Biedrins is a pretty decent defensive player, but Tim even had problems against Lee and Landry, 2 of the worst defensive players in the NBA..granted it was a back-to-back, but it looked like the robotic and indecisive Duncan of the past few years, rather then the resurgent Duncan from the first half of the year..

Hopefully it's just a rhythm issue and not age catching up quickly..

Horse
02-23-2013, 07:14 PM
This was their superbowl let them enjoy it. While we're trying to win a championship they'll just be happy they finally beat us.

ChumpDumper
02-23-2013, 07:32 PM
Judging from the angst-riddled posts, I'm almost sad the Spurs don't lose more.

Chinook
02-23-2013, 07:48 PM
It is hard for me to be convinced that we still have a "big three" when we lose when Parker is taken out of the game for whatever reason: exhaustion, worn out shoulders from having carried the team for so much of this season and last season as well, bruised arms (recent press release), whatever. Tony took almost no shots in the fourth quarter. If we can't count on Tim and Manu to carry us even a little bit every once in a while, this is going to be a short post season.

More proof that Tony is really the MVP of this team. When he is shut down, we can't win. No one else stepping up.

I don't think it's just that the Spurs are dependent on Parker. I think it's also that Parker is going to keep trying, even when it's not there. I think had Parker missed the game, the Spurs would have been able to still put together good offense. It's just like with Duncan: The Spurs can win without him, but it's hard to them to win if he can't get anything going but keeps trying.

EVAY
02-24-2013, 10:11 AM
I don't think it's just that the Spurs are dependent on Parker. I think it's also that Parker is going to keep trying, even when it's not there. I think had Parker missed the game, the Spurs would have been able to still put together good offense. It's just like with Duncan: The Spurs can win without him, but it's hard to them to win if he can't get anything going but keeps trying.

Didn't he only try two shots in the entire fourth quarter? How is that 'still trying, even when it's not there'?

Chinook
02-24-2013, 10:26 AM
Didn't he only try two shots in the entire fourth quarter? How is that 'still trying, even when it's not there'?

I meant the whole game, first off. Secondly, the fact that he took only two shots doesn't mean that he wasn't driving and getting stopped. As I said earlier, I can't speak much for this particular game, as I didn't watch a lot of it. But it's typically been the case that whenever Parker is out there and not playing well, the Spurs struggle more than they do if he just misses the game.

Preemptively, I'll say that I don't believe the Spurs are a better team without Parker. They wouldn't get passed the second round without him. Their championship hopes rest on his shoulders more than anyone else's. I'm talking about individual games here. When they know Parker is going to be out, the other players can adjust. When Parker's playing but is ineffective, it's harder.

will_spurs
02-24-2013, 11:10 AM
Preemptively, I'll say that I don't believe the Spurs are a better team without Parker. They wouldn't get passed the second round without him. Their championship hopes rest on his shoulders more than anyone else's. I'm talking about individual games here. When they know Parker is going to be out, the other players can adjust. When Parker's playing but is ineffective, it's harder.

The recipe is quite simple: if the other team's whole game plan is to make Parker "ineffective" (i.e. more to the tune of 18 & 6 than 31 & 12) then the other players have to step up: one way is via post moves, but sadly Duncan cant always perform, Splitter isn't quite assertive enough and Kawhi not considered enough; or via jump shots, which means Neal isn't supposed to go 0-for-6, Green and Bonner aren't supposed to shrivel, etc.

All in all it's exactly like any other team: sometimes role players have to step up, and when they don't it's really hard to win. The Spurs role players mostly do, to be fair, but most of them aren't consistent enough for the Spurs to feel so well about their chances to go deep in the playoffs.

superjames1992
02-24-2013, 12:52 PM
by the way what's up with Manu's bad FT shooting? He used to do them consistently well for the most part and lately this season he's been pretty bad (last night when it was clutch time he missed one of them and almost missed the second one too). Out of everything in his game that's one part that I expect him to still do well.
He's still shooting 82% from the charity stripe, which isn't bad, but it's definitely down from the last few years. It's more on par with his FT numbers early in his career.

Bambililos
02-24-2013, 12:56 PM
The recipe is quite simple: if the other team's whole game plan is to make Parker "ineffective" (i.e. more to the tune of 18 & 6 than 31 & 12) then the other players have to step up: one way is via post moves, but sadly Duncan cant always perform, Splitter isn't quite assertive enough and Kawhi not considered enough; or via jump shots, which means Neal isn't supposed to go 0-for-6, Green and Bonner aren't supposed to shrivel, etc.

All in all it's exactly like any other team: sometimes role players have to step up, and when they don't it's really hard to win. The Spurs role players mostly do, to be fair, but most of them aren't consistent enough for the Spurs to feel so well about their chances to go deep in the playoffs.
You're forgetting Diaw. He's cruising most of the time but he proved a couple times this season he knows how to step up his game when it's needed.

FuzzyLumpkins
02-24-2013, 08:23 PM
Klay did a good job on TP last night. I can attribute a lot of it to TP being gassed, but i had flashes of Sefolosha in the WCF. Parker has played unbelievable this season but I'm still not sold that he can perform at the same level when teams throw length with quickness at him.

I had flashes of when they do that there is a mismatch somewhere else on the court. They weren't calling shit in the post. Lee and co were using both hands and nary a forearm. Shoves were hardly called. Lee scores off of pnr, putbacks and jumpshots so that was a definite disavantage. They had Thompson on Parker but they were doubling on him too. How many times did that double team force Parker into the corner.

Kawhi sat on the weakside with a midget sagging into the paint the entire second half. They would get it out to Neal on the wing and he passed up shots a la Matt Bonner. That last 6 minutes was frustrating as hell to watch.

therealtruth
02-24-2013, 08:55 PM
I had flashes of when they do that there is a mismatch somewhere else on the court. They weren't calling shit in the post. Lee and co were using both hands and nary a forearm. Shoves were hardly called. Lee scores off of pnr, putbacks and jumpshots so that was a definite disavantage. They had Thompson on Parker but they were doubling on him too. How many times did that double team force Parker into the corner.

Kawhi sat on the weakside with a midget sagging into the paint the entire second half. They would get it out to Neal on the wing and he passed up shots a la Matt Bonner. That last 6 minutes was frustrating as hell to watch.

Pop knows teams are going to do this but still hasn't come up with a good counter.

superbigtime
02-24-2013, 09:36 PM
by the way what's up with Manu's bad FT shooting? He used to do them consistently well for the most part and lately this season he's been pretty bad (last night when it was clutch time he missed one of them and almost missed the second one too). Out of everyting in his game that's one part that I expect him to still do well.

Dude good question. Troubles me too.

hooperflash
02-27-2013, 12:37 AM
Yeah, f the warriors! Haha

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fkdJ-sfcFI&feature=youtube_gdata_player

chapnis
02-27-2013, 02:35 AM
Ha, Curry trying to take out Hiibbert

DapDaGenius
02-27-2013, 04:56 AM
Punk ass Warriors...