2013 Draft Prospect: Rudy Gobert [Archive]

Bruno

02-28-2013, 03:05 PM

Seems to be dropping in a lot of mocks. What is your opinion on Gobert's game Bruno?

Gobert has a huge upside with crazy length and great mobility but he has also some big flaws. He really lack of power which hurt him to battle in the paint. He is raw as hell offensively with no post game. He is having a complicated season with some injuries and the fact that most opponents play extra hard against him just to own a future lottery pick.

It's a risky pick but I still think he would be a nice gamble for a mid to late first round pick. Some players with his physical abilities have been busts like Ajinça or Whiteside but their main issue was a poor work ethic and Gobert seems to be fine in that area.

He might slide in some mock drafts but he is still heavily followed. For his last game, there were 21 NBA scouts and 1 GM (Presti). They were at this game also to watch one of his opponents called Mam Jaiteh but it's unreal how much NBA people these two prospects have been able to draw for a game.

pad300

02-28-2013, 03:53 PM

They were at this game also to watch one of his opponents called Mam Jaiteh but it's unreal how much NBA people these two prospects have been able to draw for a game.

Hey Bruno, I'm kind of surprised that you don't have one of these for Jaiteh... He might be a useful 2nd round pick.

Bruno

02-28-2013, 04:17 PM

Hey Bruno, I'm kind of surprised that you don't have one of these for Jaiteh... He might be a useful 2nd round pick.

I've mostly done profile for automatically eligible players (college senior and 1991 international players). There are some profiles for underclassmen projected to enter in the 2013 draft and I will add others when the early entry list will be known. If you want thread(s) on some draft prospects, just let me know and I will gladly do them.

Regarding Jaiteh, he is a big time prospect. I'm a huge fan of him. He is first round material and might be even get drafted before Gobert if he is in this year draft. The key for him will be the Nike Hoops Summit. If he doesn't shine at that game, I would have no problem with Spurs doing a Mahinmi and guaranteeing their first round pick to him.

DesignatedT

02-28-2013, 11:56 PM

I've mostly done profile for automatically eligible players (college senior and 1991 international players). There are some profiles for underclassmen projected to enter in the 2013 draft and I will add others when the early entry list will be known. If you want thread(s) on some draft prospects, just let me know and I will gladly do them.

Bruno Have you heard anything about Giannis Adetokunbo? Seen him play? Starting to see a lot of people talk about this young kid and DX has him in their latest mock.

Bruno

03-01-2013, 05:54 AM

Bruno Have you heard anything about Giannis Adetokunbo? Seen him play?

No, I haven't. I didn't even knew he existed until a week ago when DX has started to promote him.

exstatic

03-08-2013, 10:08 PM

Yes, please. If you can't teach height, you DAMN sure can't teach a 7'9" wingspan.

BackHome

03-09-2013, 01:30 PM

This guy is softer then Splitter...sorry I would pass.

exstatic

03-10-2013, 08:43 AM

This guy is softer then Splitter...sorry I would pass.

Are you flying over and scouting his games?

CGD

03-13-2013, 09:06 PM

Did I read that right 7'6" wingspan?!? Like what I've read about him so far. If he has a decent motor and good work ethic then heck yes. If he is Ajinca, then pass for sure.

Bruno

03-13-2013, 10:37 PM

Did I read that right 7'6" wingspan?!?

You didn't.

He has a 7'8.9 wingspan.

source (http://www.draftexpress.com/article/adidas-EUROCAMP-Measurements-and-Athletic-Testing-Results-3961/)

BackHome

03-13-2013, 11:01 PM

I would rather get someone who could start then live off the could/potential that gets most teams in trouble.

exstatic

03-14-2013, 09:19 PM

I would rather get someone who could start then live off the could/potential that gets most teams in trouble.

Not available outside of the top 5 picks. Hell, Kawhi didn't even start until Manu went down last year. He went back to the bench until HWSNBN was traded.

I'm not down with potential for guards and wings, but big men have to cook a little longer before they're done, and if you can get a freak like Gobert and actually develop him, LOOK OUT.

BackHome

03-15-2013, 06:21 PM

exstatic

03-27-2013, 06:40 AM

That is our problem when was the last time we developed a big man? Pop doesn't know how to coach and develop big men he needs to bring in someone to help him just like he brought in a free throw coach to help out.

You don't get big men of quality where we draft. Even the raw projects are usually gone by the late 20s in the first round. You can't make diamonds out of dogshit.

Bruno

03-27-2013, 10:24 AM

I wouldn't worry about Spurs ability to develop a promising young big because they have Tim Duncan who is very willing to mentor young players and seems to do it successfully during the summer with other teams bigmen like Roy Hibbert.

Now, the issue is finding a good young promising bigmen because they are few and most of the time they end up being drafted in the lottery, well before Spurs pick. And I'm not sold on Gobert being that promising player.

Richie

03-27-2013, 12:47 PM

exstatic

03-28-2013, 07:40 AM

Since the 2008 draft which had 3 good big men in the 2nd round (Pekovic, DeAndre Jordan and Asik) there hasn't been a quality big fall that low, and Pekovic was only a 2nd rounder because teams knew he wouldn't come over for the rookie scale contract ala Splitter.

Of course the year before that you had Big Baby Davis and Marc Gasol in the 2nd and before that Millsap was a mid second rounder. There is the occasional diamond in the rough

Other than Pecovic, and maybe Gasol, all of those guys had HUGE flaws that every team passed on in the first.

BTW, when those drafts went down, we had Scola (2007 draft) AND Splitter (2008 draft) already on the line. As you've said, no one really fell since then.

td4mvp2k

05-18-2013, 11:09 AM

he didnt look like a lotto pick... i think he could go in the 20s

exstatic

05-18-2013, 05:33 PM

he didnt look like a lotto pick... i think he could go in the 20s

Uh, no. He's destroying scorers in the paint, blocks, steals and deflections. Players like that rarely get out of the top 10. I thought we had a chance to hypothetically move up to the mid teens and snag him, but he's really trending upwards in the last week or so.

DraftExpress: No one can score on Rudy Gobert inside the paint. Block deflections steals. Changing everything around the rim. #nbacombine
2013-05-16 11:51:43

td4mvp2k

05-18-2013, 06:10 PM

DraftExpress: No one can score on Rudy Gobert inside the paint. Block Deflections steals. Changing everything around the rim. #nbacombine
2013-05-16 11:51:43:lol @ DX... nuff said!

exstatic

05-18-2013, 09:44 PM

:lol @ DX... nuff said!

I'll be ready with the bump when he goes way earlier than the 20s. Pretty arrogant to think you're smarter than someone who does draft analysis for a living and is on site for the draft combine.

td4mvp2k

05-18-2013, 10:10 PM

I'll be ready with the bump when he goes way earlier than the 20s. Pretty arrogant to think you're smarter than someone who does draft analysis for a living and is on site for the draft combine.:lol @ u :cry but but DX said so... :cry plz... :lol

Chinook

05-18-2013, 11:19 PM

If Gobert pulls a Leonard and falls into the late teens, would he be worth moving Green for?

exstatic

05-18-2013, 11:36 PM

If Gobert pulls a Leonard and falls into the late teens, would he be worth moving Green for?

Someone thinks he's going to fall into the 20s. Ask him.

td4mvp2k

05-18-2013, 11:51 PM

^ some1s salty :lol

DesignatedT

05-23-2013, 11:04 PM

The french JaVale McGee.

CGD

05-25-2013, 05:04 PM

Strikes me as someone OKC will pick at 12.

exstatic

05-26-2013, 01:11 PM

Strikes me as someone OKC will pick at 12.

They really need another scoring wing. As cheap as OKC is, Martin is likely gone. Their offer, if they make one, will likely be low and near insulting. It would make no sense to pay him after dumping Harden for financial reasons.

Chinook

05-26-2013, 09:57 PM

They really need another scoring wing. As cheap as OKC is, Martin is likely gone. Their offer, if they make one, will likely be low and near insulting. It would make no sense to pay him after dumping Harden for financial reasons.

They have Lamb. He's unproven, but so is whoever they could draft at 12. Lamb at least has had a year in the "system." I think the Thunder are in a good position to go BPA and fill their needs in free agency.

exstatic

05-27-2013, 10:43 AM

They have Lamb. He's unproven, but so is whoever they could draft at 12. Lamb at least has had a year in the "system." I think the Thunder are in a good position to go BPA and fill their needs in free agency.

Jeremy Lamb played 147 minutes in 23 games for OKC, and sucked balls. To put that in perspective, James Anderson was thrown a bone by the Spurs last fall, and with no plan for a future with the club, he played 94 minutes in only 10 games and smoked Lamb's numbers. Even though he didn't play as well for Houston as he did for us, JA still put up better numbers for HOU than Lamb did in OKC. You're talking about Lamb being worse than a guy who's year 3 option wasn't picked up, and who was cut in the middle of the season last year.

SOMA Spur

05-28-2013, 12:40 AM

I was on plane from LA to SA on Friday May 24th. I'm about 99% sure I was sitting behind this guy on the plane - cant really miss 7 footers, also looked just like him. So I'm guessing he was in town to tryout for the Spurs - probably hoping they trade up, I doubt he falls to us at 28, but maybe. Pretty funny watching this guy grab his bag from the overhead compartment - not getting out of his seat, just reaching up with his long ass arms to grab his back pack.

jesterbobman

05-28-2013, 04:53 AM

If he's trying to fall to the Spurs, he might mysteriously come out with a case of Kidney disease/Knee injury/Heart condition... a day before the draft.

Bruno

05-28-2013, 08:33 AM

His agent is Bouna N'Diaye who has a very good work relationship with Spurs. I saw on of his interview about Gobert and he said the goal was to have him drafted by a team in need of a center instead of having him drafted as high as possible. He also said that he wouldn't be stashed overseas because he was done with stashing players after the Mahinmi failed experiment.

Looking at mock drafts, it seems unlikely to have him slipping at #28 but Spurs could try to move up to grab him. That's likely what they have told him to convince him to work out for them.

Anyway, all the above is, of course, providing he did worked out for Spurs.

Thomas82

06-07-2013, 02:58 AM

I really do hope we get him!!

DrunkTXLabrat

06-21-2013, 02:53 PM

the splitter finals performance has me kinda rooting for gobert putting on a spurs hat.

TheGoldStandard

06-21-2013, 06:49 PM

good prospect

AFBlue

06-21-2013, 07:44 PM

Centers rise on draft day...dude won't be around when the Spurs pick.

RD2191

06-21-2013, 11:54 PM

Is he athletic? We just need someone besides tim to grab some rebounds, easy put backs, and protect the rim.

cdcast

06-22-2013, 12:53 AM

Dieng (Louisville) is a solid defensive player but limited offensively. He should be there when Atlanta has their two picks.

DrunkTXLabrat

06-22-2013, 01:52 PM

i like dieng and olynyck, too. would gobert compete against baynes? or would they play off the bench together? diaw at sf?

RD2191

06-23-2013, 06:59 PM

Next Tim Duncan :hat

exstatic

06-23-2013, 07:44 PM

Next Tim Duncan :hat
Maybe in a parallel universe where he has a post game.

RD2191

06-23-2013, 08:03 PM

Do you think Tim could work with him?

Thomas82

06-23-2013, 08:07 PM

Do you think Tim could work with him?

I believe Tim could work wonders with him.

exstatic

06-23-2013, 09:18 PM

I believe Tim could work wonders with him.

I think Fab could help him very much, too, as our new big man coach.

xellos88330

06-23-2013, 09:25 PM

If this dude is "gettable" I say go for it.

Thomas82

06-23-2013, 10:14 PM

I think Fab could help him very much, too, as our new big man coach.

+1

Thomas82

06-23-2013, 10:14 PM

I think Fab could help him very much, too, as our new big man coach.

+1

Baam

06-25-2013, 08:06 AM

Seems like Schroeder and him both didn't impress in workouts and are slipping, might be decent targets to trade up for. I don't really believe in him because I thought he had bust written all over him but if he drafted by the Spurs who knows.

Uriel

06-25-2013, 06:46 PM

Ford's latest Mock Draft 6.0 (as of 6/25/13) now has us taking Gobert at 28.

PLAYER CARD (http://insider.espn.go.com/nbadraft/results/players/_/id/19724/allen-crabbe)
28
Rudy Gobert
San Antonio Spurs

COUNTRY: France
AGE: 20
HT: 7-2
WT: 238
POS: PF

http://a.espncdn.com/combiner/i?img=/i/teamlogos/nba/500/sas.png?w=60&h=60&transparent=true

Analysis: The Spurs need size and have never shied away from taking international players. What Gobert lacks in athletic ability he makes up with extreme length for his position. The Spurs also can stash him overseas if they need the cash.

CGD

06-25-2013, 06:55 PM

Ford's latest Mock Draft 6.0 (as of 6/25/13) now has us taking Gobert at 28.
Wtf wasn't this guy a top 12 pick just a few days ago? What am I missing?

Uriel

06-25-2013, 07:00 PM

Wtf wasn't this guy a top 12 pick just a few days ago? What am I missing?
Yeah. And now apparently, Nogueira is a lottery pick and Muhammed is only in the mid-first round; a lot of surprises in these new Mock Drafts.

benefactor

06-25-2013, 07:11 PM

Nogueria isn't a lottery pick. He's still in the mid-20's in DX's latest mock. As or Gobert, if he doesn't get selected by the Pacers I'd be shocked if he made it past Minny.

Captivus

06-25-2013, 07:53 PM

Yes, mocks are going crazy.
IMO, Gobert is not falling to the Spurs, Nogueira might, some one will take a risk and pick Schroeder at 15-20, Karasev might also be available, and so on...
Giannis is the player I have doubts...

Thomas82

06-25-2013, 11:23 PM

He was slated as a potential top 5 pick back in December.

KawhiLeonard

06-25-2013, 11:44 PM

This guy is gonna be a bust imo nothin but a career backup just because of his length

objective

06-26-2013, 03:05 AM

Listening to podcasts from the last 48 hours featuring Ford and Pelton, Gobert sounds like the guy who will fall while Noguiera rises.

Pelton told David Locke that the Jazz should take Noguiera at 14. Talked up his blocking more shots in Spain than Ibaka. Ford pointed out that Noguiera's standing reach was only 1 inch shorter than Gobert. But he played much more athletic in the better league. And that Gobert was slow reaction-wise in comparison and might not be able to play fast enough to keep up in the NBA, like Saer Sene.

Captivus

06-26-2013, 09:50 AM

He could be our Birdman for the next Finals!! :lol
He is not falling...NO WAY!

Baam

06-26-2013, 02:30 PM

Chad Ford has him at 30 in his final mock.

Chinook

06-26-2013, 03:52 PM

Draft Gobert and sign Ryan Richards. Then the Toros would have the tallest and most-awkward-looking staring front court in d-league history.

Thomas82

06-26-2013, 07:10 PM

Chad Ford has him at 30 in his final mock.

If he's still available for us, we won't let him slide to 30.

CGD

06-26-2013, 07:56 PM

I just don't get the drop. Did he suck ass at workouts?

benefactor

06-26-2013, 08:21 PM

He's just very raw. He really feels like one of those freakishly long bigs that never develops but gets dunked on by everyone.

DesignatedT

06-27-2013, 12:01 AM

Bruno, Do you think the Spurs should use 28 on Gobert if he is available?

Bruno

06-27-2013, 12:23 AM

Bruno, Do you think the Spurs should use 28 on Gobert if he is available?

I do. I'm not high on him and he isn't close of being NBA ready but at #28 he would be a very nice gamble to make.

DrunkTXLabrat

06-27-2013, 04:21 PM

if adetokunbo or gobert are there, the spurs gotta take them. the spurs need a another freak young body to match kawhi.

Captivus

07-10-2013, 09:35 AM

http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/07/10/report-jazz-rookie-gobert-to-have-foot-surgery-after-summer-league/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

Report: Jazz rookie Gobert to have foot surgery after Summer League (http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/07/10/report-jazz-rookie-gobert-to-have-foot-surgery-after-summer-league/)

Rudy Gobert has done at Summer League in Orlando exactly what the Jazz hoped he would do when they traded for the No. 27 pick — be a defensive presence in the paint.
Gobert is 7’1” with a 7’9” wingspan and a standing reach of 9’7” — he is very hard to shoot over and around. The rest of his game needs polish, but you can’t teach that kind of length and it is effective at blocking and altering shots.
But the Jazz rookie is not going to gain any polish playing for the French national team this summer at Eurobasket because he is going to have foot surgery after Summer League, the French national team coach told French sports publication L’Equipe (http://www.lequipe.fr/Basket/Actualites/Gobert-forfait-a-son-tour/384838) (via Hoopshype (http://hoopshype.com/rumors.htm) and Sportando (http://www.sportando.net/eng/national-teams/national-teams/59083/rudy-gobert-won-t-play-eurobasket-with-french-nt.html)).
No word on exactly how serious an injury we are talking about, but he is playing through it. The French coach told the paper that this was a known situation, so it is likely the Jazz knew about it as well.
We don’t have any timetable for his return yet, we don’t know if he will miss any of Training Camp or the regular season.

Bruno

07-10-2013, 11:17 AM

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DrunkTXLabrat

07-10-2013, 12:32 PM

so bummed at how close he fell to being a spur. the final late 20's stretch there. all those trades. i think that was based on the spurs being obviously willing to draft him.

Raven

07-11-2013, 11:55 AM

damn! he's really looking good according to the boxscore..

DrunkTXLabrat

12-19-2014, 12:50 PM

The Spurs might now be kicking themselves for not getting in on that trade action.

Chinook

12-19-2014, 01:19 PM

Dude, come on with this.

exstatic

12-21-2014, 03:16 PM

The Spurs might now be kicking themselves for not getting in on that trade action.

There is NO team that will help us move up in the draft for our scraps/picks. Most teams (HOU/POR in particular) will actively work against us, so you really need to pull your head out of your ass with this "if only" shit.

elemento

01-10-2015, 10:25 AM

Kid is shot-blocking machine ! Offensively he is still raw, but his ceiling defensively is absolutely great.

Can't believe Denver pretty much gifted the Jazz that 1st round pick. I wonder if SA would have taken him if he was available at the time, or if JLC was the main target from the beginning.

DrunkTXLabrat

01-11-2015, 09:11 AM

The spurs also missed on Tavares who seems like Gobert 2.0, imo.

DrunkTXLabrat

01-11-2015, 09:13 AM

There is NO team that will help us move up in the draft for our scraps/picks. Most teams (HOU/POR in particular) will actively work against us, so you really need to pull your head out of your ass with this "if only" shit.

Gobert went 1 pick ahead and was seemingly sold to the highest bidder. Help has nothing to do with it.

DrunkTXLabrat

01-11-2015, 09:15 AM

Lack of vision is a weapon to be exploited, but guess what the problem is?

exstatic

01-13-2015, 08:31 AM

Gobert went 1 pick ahead and was seemingly sold to the highest bidder. Help has nothing to do with it.

And Nic Batum went one pick ahead of us in 2008, also sold to the highest bidder. You think Houston would have EVER traded that pick to us?

Teams will actively work against San Antonio. Just like any business, there are professional jealousies. We missed out on getting a young, impressionable JR Smith in 2006 because Billy Knight of ATL refused to pick up his phone on trade deadline day to help RC leverage a few tens of thousands of dollars. You think anyone will trade with anyone, but I assure you, your Pollyanna view is NOT the real world.

DrunkTXLabrat

01-13-2015, 09:58 AM

And Nic Batum went one pick ahead of us in 2008, also sold to the highest bidder. You think Houston would have EVER traded that pick to us?

Teams will actively work against San Antonio. Just like any business, there are professional jealousies. We missed out on getting a young, impressionable JR Smith in 2006 because Billy Knight of ATL refused to pick up his phone on trade deadline day to help RC leverage a few tens of thousands of dollars. You think anyone will trade with anyone, but I assure you, your Pollyanna view is NOT the real world.

If the guy wouldn't answer the phone, then I knock on his door.

DrunkTXLabrat

01-13-2015, 09:59 AM

If you refuse to sell, I offer more.

Drom John

01-13-2015, 12:22 PM

2013-2014
The Spurs had deals with the Raptors, 76ers and Nets.

2011-2012
Warriors

2010-2011
Pacers (trading up for a 1st round pick)

2009-2010
Bobcats

2008-2009
Bucks

2007-2008
Rockets, Timberwolves, Supersonics, Suns

2006-2007
Bobcats, Raptors

2005-2006
Raptors, Bucks

exstatic

01-13-2015, 08:58 PM

If the guy wouldn't answer the phone, then I knock on his door.

Well, there were minutes left to the deadline, and RC was in San Antonio and BK was in Atlanta, but thank you again for revealing your foolishness and naivete.

exstatic

01-13-2015, 08:59 PM

If you refuse to sell, I offer more.

I'll just refuse to sell until I have everything you ever owned. #winning!

DrunkTXLabrat

01-14-2015, 09:25 AM

I'll just refuse to sell until I have everything you ever owned. #winning!

And you call me naive?

DrunkTXLabrat

01-14-2015, 09:28 AM

And you call me naive?

You would only refuse to sell until you look like the loser for what you turned down. Winning isn't the only thing, it's not even everything.

DrunkTXLabrat

03-05-2015, 07:16 PM

Well, there were minutes left to the deadline, and RC was in San Antonio and BK was in Atlanta, but thank you again for revealing your foolishness and naivete.

looking back, it was you who was revealing. revealing of how much of an inside the box thinker, you are.

tim_duncan_fan

05-03-2015, 05:15 PM

Any chance we can get this guy from Utah?

TheGoldStandard

05-03-2015, 06:25 PM

Any chance we can get this guy from Utah?
Think they're pretty content on keeping him

tim_duncan_fan

05-03-2015, 06:39 PM

Think they're pretty content on keeping him

But what if we offered Kawhi?

TheGoldStandard

05-03-2015, 06:40 PM

But what if we offered Kawhi?
If it were 1995 sure.. but paying that kinda cash for a big... no thanks

tim_duncan_fan

05-03-2015, 06:59 PM

He'll be the next great big though, especially on defensive.

He's going to be a legit 20 and 12 guy.

DrunkTXLabrat

05-05-2015, 12:07 AM

if the Spurs find a way to acquire Gobert, 2 seasons ago... they don't lose to the clips, just a few days ago!

benefactor

05-05-2015, 08:08 AM

if the Spurs find a way to acquire Gobert, 2 seasons ago... they don't lose to the clips, just a few days ago!
They didn't. Utah will pay him and he will likely spend most of his career there. Stop bumping this fucking thread.

DrunkTXLabrat

05-05-2015, 02:00 PM

They didn't. Utah will pay him and he will likely spend most of his career there. Stop bumping this fucking thread.

The point is that the Spurs need to stop dicking around with the hack game and draft a big that can play some D against guys like Blake and Deandre. Anthony Davis is growing up, Noel had his name in the race for ROY, Okafor and more Kentucky bigs are coming, and the Spurs are going to lose Tim soon. Gobert should have been a Spur, the big rotation has obviously been overachieving. Replace Ayers with Dexter Pittman, even. And the Spurs at least have a hail mary to throw. Maximum opportunity has not been accomplished.

elemento

05-05-2015, 02:23 PM

This is the typical case where I'd hope that the Spurs were more aggressive in the draft.

Utah got him for peanuts from Denver, 1 pick above our pick. a 2nd and cash. Denver didn't even want that pick. Spurs could have offered more than that easily, even including a stashed guy or something else.

Gobert is a defensive stud. Utah went from garbage (with Kanter) to elite defensively pairing Gobert and Favors.

Well, nothing we can do about it anymore. Gobert is not leaving Utah anytime soon

Cklbmk

05-05-2015, 08:21 PM

Damn I didn't realize how close we were to Gobert..

thatd be an amazing future core with Leonard. GOAT wing defender and GOAT big man defender

exstatic

05-13-2015, 09:33 PM

Gobert won't be half the player on either side of the ball that Anthony Davis is. The GOAT talk needs to stop. He's long, but a stick. He'll likely never be able to defend in the post, or post anyone up. He's an elite weakside shotblocker. That's about it.

Ditty

05-13-2015, 10:31 PM

Another player Spurs fans overhype because he plays good on a bad team, and/or has a good game or two against us. He will probably have a better career than Livio Jean Charles who we selected, but nothing to be upset about that is going to haunt us down the line I hope. Their will be a draft or free agent that we will get that long athletic big man that are easy to find ;). Duncan does a pretty job getting his hand on a lot of shots, and Splitter does a good job altering shots himself.