View Full Version : 2013 Draft Prospect: Mam Jaiteh
Bruno
03-01-2013, 05:06 AM
http://s.lnb.fr/lnb/image/article/illustration/g/84/16724.jpg
Height: 6-10
Weight: 231 lbs
Birthday: 11/27/1994
Team: Boulogne (France)
Country: France
DraftExpress (http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Mouhammadou-Jaiteh-6366/)
NBADraft (http://www.nbadraft.net/players/mouhammadou-jaiteh)
Bruno
03-01-2013, 04:24 PM
31 points and 17 rebounds in 35 minutes today. :wow
http://www.lnb.fr/fr/Pro-B/300009/Resultat-match/7221/Fos-sur-Mer-Boulogne-sur-Mer
French second league level is relatively low but doing that at 18 years old while playing his 5th year of basketball is crazy.
I'm more and more convinced that Jaiteh is the real deal and I would, for example, pick him over Gobert.
bluebellmaniac
03-01-2013, 07:11 PM
31 points and 17 rebounds in 35 minutes today. :wow
http://www.lnb.fr/fr/Pro-B/300009/Resultat-match/7221/Fos-sur-Mer-Boulogne-sur-Mer
French second league level is relatively low but doing that at 18 years old while playing his 5th year of basketball is crazy.
I'm more and more convinced that Jaiteh is the real deal and I would, for example, pick him over Gobert.
Wow, that's pretty high praise. He's definitely under the radar though. If he's that good, let's keep it low key so that nobody steals him... lol. Thanks Bruno.
pad300
03-01-2013, 09:13 PM
He has the physical profile - but so did Mahinmi. The question is does he have the heart and the head?
ace3g
03-01-2013, 11:09 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9MsU_Ow1B8
exstatic
03-14-2013, 10:26 PM
He has the physical profile - but so did Mahinmi. The question is does he have the heart and the head?
This.
Uriel
03-14-2013, 11:31 PM
DX's mock currently has us picking him at 29.
The question is his fouling tendencies.
bluebellmaniac
03-15-2013, 05:12 AM
DX's mock currently has us picking him at 29.
Team needs are not considered in those mock drafts yet, but still, to go from nowhere on the list to being in the top 30 is amazing. The cat is out of the bag.... so much for secrecy nowadays... I like what Bruno had to say about him. Keep your fingers crossed....
exstatic
03-15-2013, 07:08 AM
Team needs are not considered in those mock drafts yet, but still, to go from nowhere on the list to being in the top 30 is amazing. The cat is out of the bag.... so much for secrecy nowadays... I like what Bruno had to say about him. Keep your fingers crossed....
Willie Cauley, Nerlens Noel's fellow UK freshman and backup/replacement is also now showing up on draft boards as a first rounder. Having players show up like this out of the blue is good, because it pushes a better player down to us then would have otherwise been available.
exstatic
03-15-2013, 07:23 AM
Oooh. Downside in video listed as "questionable motor". That's definitely Mahinmi-like, and not good.
Richie
03-15-2013, 12:56 PM
The Spurs won't waste a pick based on size alone. They'd rather take a 6'9" center than a 7 footer if he has better intangibles.
freetiago
03-15-2013, 04:12 PM
A reason the Spurs have failed in the past few years is because of the talent deficient roleplayers
sure its a good story when guys like Blair/Bonner can have a career or a Danny Green/RMJ become productive players after a journeyman career
but our roleplayers are always disappearing in the playoffs when they go against other teams talented lottery pick roleplayers
their flaws get exposed and the other teams guys just outplay them
SA needs to take a chance on a guy with high upside for once instead of playing it safe all the time
Bruno
03-15-2013, 04:25 PM
Just saw him on TV playing a game and he dominated (21 points, 12 rebounds in 30 minutes) but he faced midgets.
The end of the game what a big WTF. A player was having the ball near the sideline, while the game was tied with a couple of seconds left, and a coach stretched his arm to touch the ball. He got a well deserved technical for it and his team lost.
Edit: pic of the play: https://twitter.com/mephisto1954/status/312691057550819328/photo/1
He had 20+ scouts come watch him several times and is invited to the Nike Hoop Summit, there's zero chance we get him.
exstatic
03-16-2013, 02:58 PM
He had 20+ scouts come watch him several times and is invited to the Nike Hoop Summit, there's zero chance we get him.
It seems like there are 40 players we'll never get, yet we pick at #29, or better if we trade up.
Bruno
03-16-2013, 03:47 PM
The key will be what he will do at the hoops summit. If he does well in practices and at the game, he might end up in the lottery. If he does poorly, he won't enter or stay in this draft. Jaiteh was interviewed by TP on his radio show and he said that he was fine with waiting one more year before entering in the draft.
Spurs best odd at getting him would be that he sucks at the hoops summit and then guaranteeing him their first round pick. He would spend his 2013-2014 season either with the Toros or in France if he is fine with being stashed for a year.
exstatic
03-17-2013, 08:34 AM
The key will be what he will do at the hoops summit. If he does well in practices and at the game, he might end up in the lottery. If he does poorly, he won't enter or stay in this draft. Jaiteh was interviewed by TP on his radio show and he said that he was fine with waiting one more year before entering in the draft.
Spurs best odd at getting him would be that he sucks at the hoops summit and then guaranteeing him their first round pick. He would spend his 2013-2014 season either with the Toros or in France if he is fine with being stashed for a year.
Or, he could fake an injury and not show up at all. See: Mahinmi, Ian.
bluebellmaniac
03-18-2013, 09:53 PM
The key will be what he will do at the hoops summit. If he does well in practices and at the game, he might end up in the lottery. If he does poorly, he won't enter or stay in this draft. Jaiteh was interviewed by TP on his radio show and he said that he was fine with waiting one more year before entering in the draft.
Spurs best odd at getting him would be that he sucks at the hoops summit and then guaranteeing him their first round pick. He would spend his 2013-2014 season either with the Toros or in France if he is fine with being stashed for a year.
A less honest FO would guarantee a second round pick with an as good as or better than lottery pick salary if he stayed home for the Nike Hoop Summit... and fake an injury.... just sayin....
exstatic
03-18-2013, 11:06 PM
A less honest FO would guarantee a second round pick with an as good as or better than lottery pick salary if he stayed home for the Nike Hoop Summit... and fake an injury.... just sayin....
Very few players would take that offer. It's equivalent, but almost no player dreams of being a second round draft pick.
Bruno
03-18-2013, 11:47 PM
A less honest FO would guarantee a second round pick with an as good as or better than lottery pick salary if he stayed home for the Nike Hoop Summit... and fake an injury.... just sayin....
Unless the team doing that at the first pick of the second round, it's too risky for Jaiteh because another team could grab him with an earlier second round pick.
Unlike what you said earlier in this thread, Jaiteh isn't a prospect that pop out of nowhere. He made the youth FNT and he played at the INSEP that is a special high school made for the best young french players. Parker, Diaw or Batum went at that school. The reason why you suddenly heard about him is just because he is young and it's the first year he is eligible to enter in the draft but he has been on NBA teams radars for years.
bluebellmaniac
03-18-2013, 11:56 PM
I love the basketball education you can get on ST. Awesome info, I didn't know about INSEP. Bruno, you should have your own blog, given all the info you could share... You'd be famous... like Sham... that's famous in a basketball geek kind a way.
Bruno
03-19-2013, 12:11 AM
If you're interested in all these Euro young players, there is still a great blog about it:
http://www.europeanprospects.com/
The blogger knows way more than me about these players and goes to the youth tournaments to see them play. For example, he has some scouting reports on the 1995 born Damien Inglis, who has a good chance of being the next big french prospect.
Aside of that, draftexpress.com and to a lesser extent nbadraft.net have some articles or rankings of international players.
ace3g
03-19-2013, 09:05 AM
Just saw him on TV playing a game and he dominated (21 points, 12 rebounds in 30 minutes) but he faced midgets.
The end of the game what a big WTF. A player was having the ball near the sideline, while the game was tied with a couple of seconds left, and a coach stretched his arm to touch the ball. He got a well deserved technical for it and his team lost.
Edit: pic of the play: https://twitter.com/mephisto1954/status/312691057550819328/photo/1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9EEIATV7mUY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9MsU_Ow1B8
Those weaknesses in that video are pretty glaring actually. Can he even jump? The rebounding instincts look good though. Reminds me of Blair at Pitt.
BackHome
03-24-2013, 12:18 PM
Draft Net has us taking him in the second round #59
bluebellmaniac
03-24-2013, 12:43 PM
Draft Net has us taking him in the second round #59
Based on Bruno's feedback on him, I would be shocked to see him last that long. He's got to go much, much earlier.
bluebellmaniac
03-24-2013, 01:28 PM
If we used a 1st on Mam, would we stash him for 3 years then sign him or is he ready for a shot at C at his young age? I would think the stash route would be the way to go so then he gets the playing time he needs to really develop.
I'm reading a lot of great stuff on him. I think a lot of teams hate doing the stash bit with a first rounder, so that should work to our advantag if he is who we want. I can see where a lot of teams would be hesitant to draft a 6'9" C who's only 18 yo. If we can grab him, I think we'd be set at the C for a while with Splitter and Baynes anchoring the present and Mam being the future.
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Bruno
03-24-2013, 02:27 PM
^ Jaiteh was interviewed by TP on his french radio show a couple of weeks ago and he said that, while he was fine with staying another year in France, he wouldn't take the same road as Splitter or Ginobili and stay years overseas. A draft and stash agreement for one year could work but in that case, Jaiteh best interest might just be to wait for the 2014 NBA draft and bet he would be drafted higher than #29.
Jaiteh also said that players he was watching on tape to get better were Aldridge and Duncan. While he is playing C in an undersized league, his future could be more at the PF slot at the NBA level.
benefactor
03-24-2013, 02:29 PM
Draft Net has us taking him in the second round #59
Kinda strange...DX has him not even making it to the Spurs in the first round. I don't think NBADraft has done very much homework on him or they wouldn't have ranked him so low. If he makes it out of the first he won't make it out of the first few picks in the second.
BackHome
03-27-2013, 09:11 PM
I don't know they have Giannis Adetokuoubo going to Atlanta at 18 so they are looking but who knows what going to happen.
RodNIc91
03-31-2013, 11:32 AM
DraftExpress: Will be interesting to see how Mouhammadou Jaiteh does as he's "100% entering the 2013 draft" according to his agent and "90% staying in."
stnick2261
04-16-2013, 11:25 AM
damn :depressed
Captivus
04-16-2013, 12:41 PM
Draft Express has him at 26 and Draftnet doesn't have at all.
Bruno
04-16-2013, 01:33 PM
The big knock on Jaiteh is that he put great stats in a crappy league but he struggled against better players. This year he just got dominated when opposed to players like Rudy Gobert or Alexis Ajinça.
If he hasn't a good Hoop Summit, he might be in play for Spurs first round pick.
Bruno
04-20-2013, 08:31 PM
The big knock on Jaiteh is that he put great stats in a crappy league but he struggled against better players. This year he just got dominated when opposed to players like Rudy Gobert or Alexis Ajinça.
If he hasn't a good Hoop Summit, he might be in play for Spurs first round pick.
And that's what happened...
I would be all for Spurs guaranteeing their first round pick to him in June especially if he is fine with being stashed one year in France.
Chinook
04-20-2013, 09:12 PM
Does he have the skills to be an NBA power-forward? With the way the league is trending now, the idea of having two centers in at the same time is becoming less desirable.
stéphane
04-21-2013, 06:28 AM
Here comes my dream...
If he could be picked by the Spurs at the end of the first round and then stashed in Limoges for a year, I'd be fantastic !
exstatic
04-21-2013, 08:40 AM
And that's what happened...
I would be all for Spurs guaranteeing their first round pick to him in June especially if he is fine with being stashed one year in France.
DX has dropped him into the early second round in their latest mock. He was up somewhere around 20 before the NHS.
exstatic
04-21-2013, 08:44 AM
Does he have the skills to be an NBA power-forward? With the way the league is trending now, the idea of having two centers in at the same time is becoming less desirable.
He's 18, and raw as hell. You won't ever have to worry about he and Tim playing together, because by the time he's ready, Tim will be gone.
Chinook
04-21-2013, 08:50 AM
He's 18, and raw as hell. You won't ever have to worry about he and Tim playing together, because by the time he's ready, Tim will be gone.
Sure, but Splitter will still be there. And Baynes may as well.
bluebellmaniac
04-21-2013, 09:44 AM
Sure, but Splitter will still be there. And Baynes may as well.
It'd be a great problem to have... for a change :-).
exstatic
04-21-2013, 10:03 AM
Sure, but Splitter will still be there. And Baynes may as well.
That's not a given. IIRC, Baynes is also under contract only for next year. Kid could also be the backup while he develops.
You don't draft or not draft someone based on a log jam at a position. Shit, Portland had like 3 starting quality SFs for about 5 years in a row.
Chinook
04-21-2013, 01:38 PM
That's not a given. IIRC, Baynes is also under contract only for next year. Kid could also be the backup while he develops.
You don't draft or not draft someone based on a log jam at a position. Shit, Portland had like 3 starting quality SFs for about 5 years in a row.
I guess I should clarify. I am not questioning Jaiteh's draftability. I am asking about his skills because Bruno mentioned that Jaiteh may end up as an NBA four. I am wondering if he truly has the skills to play there (I haven't seen him at all, so I really don't know), because I don't like the idea of pretending a center is a power-forward and starting two stiffs like the Spurs are doing now. So I don't mind Jaiteh as a center prospect, but I'd have reservations about classifying him as a four if he doesn't have a good mid-range game and above-average mobility.
objective
04-21-2013, 07:23 PM
his nickname should be "La Jetee"
That would be sweet.
Captivus
04-21-2013, 08:30 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZcKVXi6gVA
The weaknesses are not minor for a big in the NBA, he doesnt block shots, partially because he doesn't jump much nor does hi contest many shots. Bad jump shot also. After watching the video it looked like a Tiago 2.0.
He is still 18, and like it says in the video, he may be picking up bad habits in that low intensity league. Questionable motor is never good.
Looking at many of the recent mocks this guys is being rated as second round material. Any explanation for the recent dip?
exstatic
04-27-2013, 06:02 PM
Looking at many of the recent mocks this guys is being rated as second round material. Any explanation for the recent dip?
He had a rotten Nike World Hoop Summit.
td4mvp2k
04-28-2013, 02:50 PM
ya he lookd avg... mahinmi any1?
exstatic
04-28-2013, 08:55 PM
It doesn't mean he won't be good, but it did ding his draft stock.
If he has motor problems, though, he could be Ian II. I always saw that as Mahinmi's problem.
BackHome
05-04-2013, 11:22 AM
Look just like Ian would never draft this guy in the first round. Questions about his work ethic and he is not a basketball player just a decent athletic player. These type of players I don't like. Forget about potential that word has gotten a lot of head coaches and GM's fired over the year. If he is there for us at the second to the last players in the second round then I might think about it.
Captivus
05-23-2013, 01:01 PM
Strange that he doesnt appear in NBADraft. DC has him at 1st pick, second round.
BackHome
05-26-2013, 08:17 PM
This kid sucked at the Nike Summit I mean he looked lost and was slow nothing I saw says first round picks. Heck I wouldn't even look at him until late second round.
DesignatedT
06-17-2013, 04:21 PM
Alex Kennedy @AlexKennedyNBA 48s
Mouhammadou Jaiteh has decided to withdraw his name from the 2013 NBA Draft, according to his agent. He'll return to France for the season.
ace3g
06-17-2013, 04:23 PM
Alex Kennedy @AlexKennedyNBA
(http://twitter.com/AlexKennedyNBA)Mouhammadou Jaiteh has decided to withdraw his name from the 2013 NBA Draft, according to his agent. He'll return to France for the season.
Alex Kennedy @AlexKennedyNBA
(http://twitter.com/AlexKennedyNBA)Jaiteh will likely enter the 2014 NBA Draft and be one of the top center prospects. He withdrew because he didn't get a first-round promise.
BackHome
06-19-2013, 01:21 AM
He withdrew cause he sucked!
AFBlue
06-19-2013, 03:37 PM
I read a blurb from his agent stating that he had guarantees in the first but no good fits. I'm sure it was bs, but I wonder if that stance makes him look even worse. I mean, teams picking late in the first compete for championships, and he didn't want to be a part of it?
pad300
06-19-2013, 05:09 PM
I read a blurb from his agent stating that he had guarantees in the first but no good fits. I'm sure it was bs, but I wonder if that stance makes him look even worse. I mean, teams picking late in the first compete for championships, and he didn't want to be a part of it?
He owes no team anything right now, as a close to home example, look at Mahinmi - came over to SAS - a team competing for a championship - and nearly watched his career flame out here... He has since proved at least a serviceable backup at DAL and then IND... Being on a competitive team does not necessarily mean the best fit for your career, and at this point, he's got a right to put his career first.
Bruno
06-20-2013, 11:15 PM
The most likely team that would have made him a first round pick promise is OKC at #29 under the condition that he would be stashed in Europe. Jaiteh and his agent were right to turn that kind of offer down. Being stashed with a late first round pick isn't that interesting for a player.
He will likely play next season in the french first division and we will see what he will do against stronger competition.
Went from getting 3minutes a game in Euroleague to getting his first double double.
His trajectory is really interesting, with someone like Nurkic out of reach he looks like a great option to me.
exstatic
12-16-2013, 07:57 PM
Went from getting 3minutes a game in Euroleague to getting his first double double.
His trajectory is really interesting, with someone like Nurkic out of reach he looks like a great option to me.
It's the catch 22 of drafting late. If they're any good, they rise in the draft. If they're not any good, who wants them?
AFBlue
03-09-2014, 10:24 PM
So what's the story with this kid? Bruno, any insight on whether he's improved on his weaknesses in his return to Europe? DX has him as a mid-second round pick at this point, but I wasn't sure if that had to do with his production or him just being a forgotten man with all these new hot prospects to discuss.
http://distilleryimage10.ak.instagram.com/6af0a356b5ab11e3a2f512616eb8225a_8.jpg
Looking like a midget next to real life giant...
Mel_13
04-21-2014, 11:26 PM
After deciding to declare, French center prospect Mouhammadou Jaiteh has pulled his name out of the NBA Draft, source tells RealGM.
https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania
Uriel
04-22-2014, 06:19 AM
After deciding to declare, French center prospect Mouhammadou Jaiteh has pulled his name out of the NBA Draft, source tells RealGM.
https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania
F.
Captivus
04-22-2014, 06:20 AM
After deciding to declare, French center prospect Mouhammadou Jaiteh has pulled his name out of the NBA Draft, source tells RealGM.
https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania
Probably best for him...not so much for the Spurs.
BackHome
04-25-2014, 12:26 PM
In some draft mocks he is being compared to "Ian M." the guy we drafted and never did anything for us.
objective
05-07-2015, 04:59 PM
Started watching some of Jaiteh after searching for LJC footage.
Man, his game is like combining the stone touch of Mahinmi with the below the rim no-dunking of Tiago. And defensively ... I was surprised by his measurements because he sure doesn't contest shots like a guy with his supposed reach. And that non vertical ...
Chinook
05-07-2015, 05:13 PM
Still an awesome last name...
DrunkTXLabrat
05-07-2015, 11:06 PM
Started watching some of Jaiteh after searching for LJC footage.
Man, his game is like combining the stone touch of Mahinmi with the below the rim no-dunking of Tiago. And defensively ... I was surprised by his measurements because he sure doesn't contest shots like a guy with his supposed reach. And that non vertical ...
lol
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