View Full Version : Injury Thread: Tony Parker's Anke (Update: Out 4 weeks)
Libri
03-01-2013, 10:13 PM
Possible ankle injury for TP. Was helped off the court.
Mugen
03-01-2013, 10:14 PM
Looked like a really bad sprain. I hope that's it.
jon123spurs
03-01-2013, 10:15 PM
Let's just hope its his ankle. Fuck not this again.
Richie
03-01-2013, 10:15 PM
Looks like it might just not be our year. None of the big 3 can stay healthy
Trainwreck2100
03-01-2013, 10:16 PM
spurs were gonna have to learn to play without Parker anyway
timvp
03-01-2013, 10:17 PM
Dammit, looked bad. Definitely an ankle sprain of some sort.
Let's hope it's a regular sprain and not something like a high ankle sprain or something even worse.
cheguevara
03-01-2013, 10:17 PM
Season ending? Let us pray
Calispursfan11
03-01-2013, 10:19 PM
Yeah, it didn't look good, but I think he'll definitely be back in a couple of weeks at worst.
timvp
03-01-2013, 10:19 PM
Yeah, it didn't look good, but I think he'll definitely be back in a couple of weeks at worst.
A high ankle sprain would be 4-6 weeks. Unfortunately, that's kinda what it looked like :depressed
timtonymanu
03-01-2013, 10:20 PM
Too many damn injuries. Sickening.
Darius Bieber
03-01-2013, 10:21 PM
Do we sign Aaron Brooks now?
DesignatedT
03-01-2013, 10:21 PM
Trying to see the silver lining in this and it might could serve to be good thing for some people. It could also be a disaster if nobody steps up and we start to lose HCA.
Hopefully this forces Tim to get out of his funk and start playing like he was. It will definitely force Manu to be more involved and this might finally be what wakes him up. It could also let a backup PG distance himself from the rest as well. Of course there could only be a silver lining if it's just a simple sprain and he's back and healthy in 2-4 weeks. It rolled pretty good but it didn't roll all the way over.
loveforthegame
03-01-2013, 10:22 PM
Looked bad. Praying for the best.
HarlemHeat37
03-01-2013, 10:22 PM
Hopefully it's only a few weeks, Spurs should be able to withstand OKC's run during that span..
Obviously Duncan will need to shake off his rust more urgently than expected, and Manu will need to remember how to play like an NBA starter-caliber player again, tbh..
Calispursfan11
03-01-2013, 10:22 PM
Does this mean significant minutes for Cory Joseph as Patty's backup? Unbelievably he's actually in the game right now. I don't think Pop will play Joseph - probably a combo of Manu, Mills, Neal and Diaw at the point or something weird like that.
Not really worried, like Manu's injury it'll only force guys to step up, Kawhi, Green and Parker were those guys. More playing time for Joseph and Mills to develop, Kawhi will be expected to score much more often as will Green.
Yes the Spurs will lose some games but after TP comes back they should be a much stronger team.
Budkin
03-01-2013, 10:25 PM
Christ. Just logged in. Christ.
sink for swim time, one of the point guards will need to step up and the spurs might even have a viable back up come playoff time.
thispego
03-01-2013, 10:26 PM
3 weeks out tops. Blessing in disguise, give us a chance to see who of Joseph, mills, de colo will be the primary backup pg. also will for spurs to be not so reliant on tony
HarlemHeat37
03-01-2013, 10:26 PM
Not really worried, like Manu's injury it'll only force guys to step up, Kawhi, Green and Parker were those guys. More playing time for Joseph and Mills to develop, Kawhi will be expected to score much more often as will Green.
Yes the Spurs will lose some games but after TP comes back they should be a much stronger team.
Joseph and Mills are below average players, and Danny Green's game will suffer without Parker creating open looks for him, tbh..
Budkin
03-01-2013, 10:27 PM
Can't they invent some kind if brace that prevents those fucking things?
Floyd Pacquiao
03-01-2013, 10:27 PM
fawk....why us basketball gods?
jon123spurs
03-01-2013, 10:27 PM
Called it just a right ankle sprain.
Calispursfan11
03-01-2013, 10:28 PM
sink for swim time, one of the point guards will need to step up and the spurs might even have a viable back up come playoff time.
Pop will probably test out Splitter and Blair at Point Center and have them bring the ball up in TP's absence.
TheGoldStandard
03-01-2013, 10:28 PM
That's a 2 to 4 week sprain, at least I hope but Pop won't chance it. If he's able to come back he'll be back for a few games before playoffs starts.
This is why resting players left and right with fake injuries just doesn't matter. If your hurt then your hurt, otherwise just play the freaking games!
Trying to half-ass your way though the nba season is stupid. guys never get in rhythm, the team never gets in rhythm because its always being interrupted. Two years ago ginobili gets hurt the last game of the season.
hater
03-01-2013, 10:30 PM
:pctoss
looked very bad. TP has a huge pain tolerance, so seeing him wince in pain is very troubling
HarlemHeat37
03-01-2013, 10:31 PM
The silver lining is very thin here, tbh..
It may force Duncan and Ginobili to be more aggressive and find their touch, but it's not like either guy has trouble figuring out their role or understanding how to perform in big games..
We have already seen how the backup guards play as substitutes..De Colo is a very aggressive starter, but it doesn't translate to his backup role..Joseph isn't going to play a meaningful role..Mills isn't a PG, tbh..
Kawhi will receive more touches, but his confidence is already high and the Spurs already have a difficult time finding him in key situations..
bklynspursfan
03-01-2013, 10:31 PM
Well, we need the basketball gods to be on our side again this season...
ElNono
03-01-2013, 10:32 PM
looked like a regular sprain, IMO... Non-Issue
thispego
03-01-2013, 10:33 PM
Hater is a pussy. Tony is fine, quick healer.
Your mom winced but she was fine
Calispursfan11
03-01-2013, 10:33 PM
This is why resting players left and right with fake injuries just doesn't matter. If your hurt then your hurt, otherwise just play the freaking games!
Trying to half-ass your way though the nba season is stupid. guys never get in rhythm, the team never gets in rhythm because its always being interrupted. Two years ago ginobili gets hurt the last game of the season.
Some of what you say is true but the less games you play, the less likely you are to get injured. It's like a catch 22. You need to play your best guys to get the best record, but if you play them, they ar emore likely to get badly injured. Pop tries to cut down the chances of this with the rest and fake injuries based on odds, but he still got screwed regardless because every time you play it is possible to get injured. Just unlucky is all.
hater
03-01-2013, 10:33 PM
in other news ElNono finally gets a hardon
would be ironic if TP ends up missing more games than Manu, tbh :lol
ball moves better when manu is running the PG spot anyways...
thispego
03-01-2013, 10:35 PM
lol all you weenies calling doom :lol y'all are weak. especially harlem, dude acts like he knows basketball :lmao since basketball is his life you'd think he'd be more knowledgeable
ElNono
03-01-2013, 10:36 PM
hater wrong bout dem injuries per par
ElNono
03-01-2013, 10:37 PM
in other news ElNono finally gets a hardon
Brah, you gonna start the "TP is made of glass" thread?
hater getting a chockfull of his own medicine with this one... remember when I told you injuries happen? well, well, well
hater
03-01-2013, 10:38 PM
quick call your wife, she might actually get some this year :lol
ElNono
03-01-2013, 10:39 PM
I'm with pego on this one, tbh... dramatic cliff jumping is dramatic...
ElNono
03-01-2013, 10:41 PM
quick call your wife, she might actually get some this year :lol
Brah, you gonna start the "TP is made of glass" thread?
HarlemHeat37
03-01-2013, 10:43 PM
I just said that I don't think Parker will miss more than a few weeks, and that the Spurs would retain the #1 seed:lol..
I was merely pointing out that niggas like Corey Joseph and Patty Mills aren't going to cement roles on the team with Parker out:lol..
ElNono
03-01-2013, 10:45 PM
I just said that I don't think Parker will miss more than a few weeks, and that the Spurs would retain the #1 seed:lol..
I was merely pointing out that niggas like Corey Joseph and Patty Mills aren't going to cement roles on the team with Parker out:lol..
Agreed. Corey will probably be back in the Toros as soon as Neal can suit up
DAF86
03-01-2013, 10:45 PM
Watch the Spurs go on a 16-4 winnng streak and everyone calling Leonard an MVP candidate and Baynes rookie of the year.
bklynspursfan
03-01-2013, 10:45 PM
Would like to see Kawhi's ball handling duties increased during TP's absence.
Johnsyounger
03-01-2013, 10:46 PM
http://www.cbssports.com/nba/blog/eye-on-basketball/21792926/spurs-tony-parker-leaves-game-with-ankle-injury
Says not as bad as looks
TheGoldStandard
03-01-2013, 10:47 PM
Agreed. Corey will probably be back in the Toros as soon as Neal can suit up
And then we'll see an increased amount of turnovers from balls being dribbled off foots and getting jammed in the corner when he picks up his dribbled prematurely.. Gary at PG is pretty bad.
ElNono
03-01-2013, 10:48 PM
And then we'll see an increased amount of turnovers from balls being dribbled off foots and getting jammed in the corner when he picks up his dribbled prematurely.. Gary at PG is pretty bad.
don't disagree, but I think we're too far into the season to see Pop go with somebody else
SupremeGuy
03-01-2013, 10:48 PM
looked like a regular sprain, IMO... Non-IssueThis.
You guys are ridiculous. Have you all never played sports before? That didn't even look like a bad sprain.
TheGoldStandard
03-01-2013, 10:50 PM
don't disagree, but I think we're too far into the season to see Pop go with somebody else
Yeah, if Pop is anything he's a creature of habit. Lots of the same from the start of the season. Hopefully Manu will have a fountain of youth moment in the next few weeks. Corey Joseph needs to be on the bench next year, Spurs have way too many project shooting guards that pop tries to convert.
Man In Black
03-01-2013, 10:51 PM
If someone posts a clip I might be able to tell from the clip. Whats most important is that they minimize swelling for the next 48 hours. High ankle sprains are normally the result of stepping on someone's foot when landing from a jump move.
Pasta Batman
03-01-2013, 10:51 PM
don't disagree, but I think we're too far into the season to see Pop go with somebody else
Now that trade season is over, and no one can be shown off, only time will tell. Obviously the biggest change will be Manu more involved (as long as he's healthy)
ElNono
03-01-2013, 10:52 PM
Yeah, if Pop is anything he's a creature of habit. Lots of the same from the start of the season. Hopefully Manu will have a fountain of youth moment in the next few weeks. Corey Joseph needs to be on the bench next year, Spurs have way too many project shooting guards that pop tries to convert.
More like habit, IMO, he's a big believer of 'process' and building towards the playoffs... and he built the backup PG with Neal primarily at it
ElNono
03-01-2013, 10:53 PM
If someone posts a clip I might be able to tell from the clip. Whats most important is that they minimize swelling for the next 48 hours. High ankle sprains are normally the result of stepping on someone's foot when landing from a jump move.
He did step on someone's foot... but it didn't look like it twisted all the way to the side... I'm sure somebody will post a clip when available... there's one camera on one of the corners that caught the sprain pretty good
timvp
03-01-2013, 10:54 PM
As long as Parker is gone less than three weeks and he can return at 100%, this isn't the worst thing to ever happen.
1. If you could handpick a stretch to be without Parker, this would be it. He could miss three weeks and the Spurs would only have to miss one road game.
2. Maybe it will allow one of the backup PGs to emerge. CJ, specifically, could be given a long, hard look.
3. Ginobili needs more touches. This will do that.
4. Duncan needs to figure out how hard he can push his knee. This will do that.
5. Parker could use the rest, tbh.
Let's hope for a standard sprain. If that's all it is and there's no long-term effects, this might work out.
ace3g
03-01-2013, 10:54 PM
Mike Monroe @Monroe_SA (https://twitter.com/Monroe_SA) Pop on parker ankle sprain: 'it's a good one, he'll be out a while'
davidbowie
03-01-2013, 10:54 PM
that's it. we're finished. see you guys next year.
Spurs Brazil
03-01-2013, 10:55 PM
Mike Monroe @Monroe_SA (https://twitter.com/Monroe_SA) Pop on parker ankle sprain: 'it's a good one, he'll be out a while'
damn
Blizzardwizard
03-01-2013, 10:55 PM
Ah screw this, David Stern payed the basketball gods as well now did he?
HI-FI
03-01-2013, 10:56 PM
I hope for TOny's sake it's alright and he'll be fine. This injury bug is getting ridiculous though.
I am interested though to see our team without Tony running it. It could be ugly, but maybe not.
ElNono
03-01-2013, 10:56 PM
MRI tomorrow probably... we'll know more then
timvp
03-01-2013, 10:57 PM
If someone posts a clip I might be able to tell from the clip. Whats most important is that they minimize swelling for the next 48 hours. High ankle sprains are normally the result of stepping on someone's foot when landing from a jump move.
That's exactly what it was. Why I'm worried about a high ankle sprain was because of that but also because Parker was grabbing higher up on his leg than you typically see when a player suffers an ankle sprain.
If it is a high ankle sprain, the Spurs would be F'ed, tbh.
Trying to see the silver lining in this and it might could serve to be good thing for some people. It could also be a disaster if nobody steps up and we start to lose HCA.
Hopefully this forces Tim to get out of his funk and start playing like he was. It will definitely force Manu to be more involved and this might finally be what wakes him up. It could also let a backup PG distance himself from the rest as well. Of course there could only be a silver lining if it's just a simple sprain and he's back and healthy in 2-4 weeks. It rolled pretty good but it didn't roll all the way over.
you know timmy is going to be 37 right ?
dbreiden83080
03-01-2013, 10:57 PM
Well better now than the playoffs.. Can't panic too much over the seedings and HC. They had HC last year and it didn't matter..
timvp
03-01-2013, 10:57 PM
Mike Monroe @Monroe_SA (https://twitter.com/Monroe_SA) Pop on parker ankle sprain: 'it's a good one, he'll be out a while'
Shyt.
Strategic
03-01-2013, 10:57 PM
and just think, this happens ten days earlier and the cliff divers could have had Fish for dinner.
loveforthegame
03-01-2013, 10:58 PM
Mike Monroe @Monroe_SA (https://twitter.com/Monroe_SA) Pop on parker ankle sprain: 'it's a good one, he'll be out a while'
Shit. :td
Libri
03-01-2013, 10:59 PM
:(
Blizzardwizard
03-01-2013, 10:59 PM
Well then, De Colo for finals MVP :lobt2: :hat
ThePop
03-01-2013, 11:00 PM
Probably the usual 4-6 weeks
BatManu20
03-01-2013, 11:00 PM
Yea it definitely sucks but HCA advantage doesn't matter anyways. We've shown that the past 2 years. Let Parker rest up and come back with fresh legs in 6 weeks.
loveforthegame
03-01-2013, 11:00 PM
Time for guys to step up and hold the fort down until he returns.
Budkin
03-01-2013, 11:01 PM
Dude I just saw the replay and cringed. He's lucky his ankle isn't broken. I guess that's the only silver lining is that it's only a sprain, albeit a severe one.
Strategic
03-01-2013, 11:01 PM
I guess hoping it's a contusion is dreaming. I think Parker is in need of some extended rest so it might help in the long run.
Splits
03-01-2013, 11:01 PM
His left ankle didn't land on the foot of anybody according to this image:
http://proxy.storify.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fpbs.twimg.com%2Fmedia%2FBEUkltRC MAEJjy6.jpg
Budkin
03-01-2013, 11:02 PM
Well better now than the playoffs.. Can't panic too much over the seedings and HC. They had HC last year and it didn't matter..
Agreed I used to think HCA was everything, then the last two years happened.
RD2191
03-01-2013, 11:02 PM
Well then, De Colo for finals MVP :lobt2: :hat
lmfao, comment of the day
Libri
03-01-2013, 11:02 PM
Pop looks depressed. :depressed
Southwest Texas Fan
03-01-2013, 11:03 PM
Pop didn't look happy......shit.
timvp
03-01-2013, 11:03 PM
Pop looks glum regarding TP's injury .........
Arcadian
03-01-2013, 11:04 PM
This team is capable of securing #1 even without Parker, tbh.
jestersmash
03-01-2013, 11:04 PM
I guess hoping it's a contusion is dreaming. I think Parker is in need of some extended rest so it might help in the long run.
FSSW showed a clean replay a while ago. It looked like he mildly rolled his ankle. I wouldn't put too much stock into Pop's words. In addition to "it's a good one, he'll be out for a while" he also said "we can't worry about it right now, we'll know more tomorrow." I think Pop was just giving a generic response based on how Tony said he felt.
This looked far from a season ending injury or anything like that. IMO he'll probably be out for around 3 weeks.
crc21209
03-01-2013, 11:04 PM
I wouldnt be surprised if he came back sooner than later. IIRC, I think Tony had an ankle sprain or some sort of injury 2 years ago and he was supposed to be out a long period of time and he only missed about a week or so and made a surprise comeback against the Heat in San Antonio. I remember all of us here were surprised he came back so quick..
Budkin
03-01-2013, 11:05 PM
Mike Monroe @Monroe_SA (https://twitter.com/Monroe_SA) Pop on parker ankle sprain: 'it's a good one, he'll be out a while'
Watching the interview with Pop when he said this... the way he said it and the look on his face did not make me feel very good. Ugh.
Southwest Texas Fan
03-01-2013, 11:06 PM
This will mean more touches for Kawhi.
DesignatedT
03-01-2013, 11:06 PM
you know timmy is going to be 37 right ?
He was 36 years and 9 months old playing some of his best basketball of the last 5 years... What are you saying? There's some huge dropoff I don't know about between the age of 36 years and 9 months and 37 years old?
crc21209
03-01-2013, 11:07 PM
And BTW...fuck this! I've been looking forward to the Spurs-Thunder game on March 11th at home because I have tickets to the game. Now it won't be the same without TP...
Budkin
03-01-2013, 11:07 PM
Unless Tony has Dirk ankles I'm guessing it's going to be at least 6 weeks.
Bill_Brasky
03-01-2013, 11:07 PM
One of the tweets on the post game show was just "PLEASEBEOKAYPLEASEBEOKAYPLEASEBEOKAYPLEASEBEOKAY" a million times
jestersmash
03-01-2013, 11:08 PM
Watching the interview with Pop when he said this... the way he said it and the look on his face did not make me feel very good. Ugh.
But he doesn't know anything right now. Naturally he'd be concerned when his star player just went down with a rolled ankle. But it's not like Pop is privy to secret medical records that says Tony tore X and is out for the season and he's just not telling the public right now. Pop probably knows just as much as you do.
DesignatedT
03-01-2013, 11:08 PM
Pop doesn't know how long he's going to be out. Better off not speculating. Nobody knows until they look at it tomorrow.
Sean Cagney
03-01-2013, 11:08 PM
EVERY SINGLE DAMN NIGHT I tell you, another injury.
jestersmash
03-01-2013, 11:09 PM
Pop doesn't know how long he's going to be out. Better off not speculating. Nobody knows until they look at it tomorrow.
+1
Budkin
03-01-2013, 11:09 PM
And BTW...fuck this! I've been looking forward to the Spurs-Thunder game on March 11th at home because I have tickets to the game. Now it won't be the same without TP...
Even though OKC might win, it might actually be better if they don't face us with our playoff lineup. Sefalosha will be sad.
Splits
03-01-2013, 11:09 PM
BREAKING: Thunderefs in Denver tonight, looks like both Westchuck and Durant will play 44 minutes without injury!
Amuseddaysleeper
03-01-2013, 11:10 PM
Damn, this sucks.
Parker is a quick healer though.
timvp
03-01-2013, 11:10 PM
But he doesn't know anything right now. Naturally he'd be concerned when his star player just went down with a rolled ankle. But it's not like Pop is privy to secret medical records that says Tony tore X and is out for the season and he's just not telling the public right now. Pop probably knows just as much as you do.
Well, to be fair, Pop could have just asked TP how he was doing. Basketball players have rolled their ankles so many times that they usually know how bad it is pretty quickly.
Sean Cagney
03-01-2013, 11:11 PM
Yea it definitely sucks but HCA advantage doesn't matter anyways. We've shown that the past 2 years. Let Parker rest up and come back with fresh legs in 6 weeks.
Yeah we are not getting no HC now, but as you said last two years it did not matter in the end anyways so 2nd seed or so be it! I guess we will have to take it now without best player out.
mexicanjunior
03-01-2013, 11:11 PM
Looked pretty bad, he is probably done being MVP Parker for this season, which means we have no chance come playoff time.
BatManu20
03-01-2013, 11:11 PM
This team is capable of securing #1 even without Parker, tbh.
Doubtful. If it's any extended period of time that is. It would take some surprising losses by OKC and Miami, and I don't see either happening. Especially Miami.. They won their 15th straight tonight even with Lebron having his worst game of the season.
I think we end up with the 2nd seed in the West now and play the Lakers in the 1st round because I think they end up with the 7th seed.
crc21209
03-01-2013, 11:11 PM
Even though OKC might win, it might actually be better if they don't face us with our playoff lineup. Sefalosha will be sad.
I wanted a healthy Spurs squad for that game though. I only get to see them twice or three times a year in person because I'm in college. That week is my Spring Break week so I was really looking forward to the game. :depressed
jestersmash
03-01-2013, 11:12 PM
BREAKING: Thunderefs in Denver tonight, looks like both Westchuck and Durant will play 44 minutes without injury!
I actually like these games because I think Denver is the only team in the NBA that can get more free throw attempts than the Thunder (@Denver) regularly. These games are usually called tightly on both sides with Denver getting 30+ free throws and Thunder getting 25-30 or something like that.
At least it's better than seeing the Thunder get 35 free throw attempts while their opponent gets like 9, or something.
DesignatedT
03-01-2013, 11:13 PM
Even if Parker told Pop it felt bad, nobody knows what "awhile" means in Pops vocab. Could be 3 weeks could be longer. I'm sure he thinks 2 damn weeks without Tony is "awhile"
jestersmash
03-01-2013, 11:13 PM
Well, to be fair, Pop could have just asked TP how he was doing. Basketball players have rolled their ankles so many times that they usually know how bad it is pretty quickly.
True. Hopefully we'll get good news tomorrow after imaging results come in.
siraulo23
03-01-2013, 11:13 PM
I hope it's not a season ending injury, and when he does comeback that we he plays 100% come playoff time
TheGoldStandard
03-01-2013, 11:16 PM
Looks like Dr. Jason Garrett and Airrosti will have there hands full this coming week with a treatment plan for Tony after the doctors diagnosis the severity.
Strategic
03-01-2013, 11:19 PM
Maybe he can soak it in cider over night, that usually helps.
Some of what you say is true but the less games you play, the less likely you are to get injured. It's like a catch 22. You need to play your best guys to get the best record, but if you play them, they ar emore likely to get badly injured. Pop tries to cut down the chances of this with the rest and fake injuries based on odds, but he still got screwed regardless because every time you play it is possible to get injured. Just unlucky is all.
You cant play the game that way. playing not to get hurt increases your odds of getting hurt. you decrease your odds of getting hurt by keeping your body in a rhythm. Stopping and starting is the worse thing you can do for your body. I've said it before, Phil rarely rested his guys, bulls or lakers and those teams were always lathered up going into the playoffs. The only exception being Shaq getting fat and lazy.
SupremeGuy
03-01-2013, 11:24 PM
I'm calling 2-3 weeks. It's not the end of the World guys, just chill out and wait for more information.
RuffnReadyOzStyle
03-01-2013, 11:27 PM
If TP is back in 2-4 weeks we'll be fine, any longer and that's probably the season for us. :depressed
Brunodf
03-01-2013, 11:32 PM
This team is capable of securing #1 even without Parker, tbh.
If the Spurs play without Neal too, we have a chance
thispego
03-01-2013, 11:33 PM
Pop looks glum regarding TP's injury .........
Pop just won by 30, what does he have to be happy about?
thispego
03-01-2013, 11:36 PM
If TP is back in 2-4 weeks we'll be fine, any longer and that's probably the season for us. :depressed
lol what?
SilverSpur
03-01-2013, 11:37 PM
Looks like a regular ankle sprain. More time for DeColo, Mills and Joseph.
Time for someone else to step up, hopefully someone will take advantage
jesterbobman
03-01-2013, 11:38 PM
You cant play the game that way. playing not to get hurt increases your odds of getting hurt. you decrease your odds of getting hurt by keeping your body in a rhythm. Stopping and starting is the worse thing you can do for your body. I've said it before, Phil rarely rested his guys, bulls or lakers and those teams were always lathered up going into the playoffs. The only exception being Shaq getting fat and lazy.
Just because it worked for a given team doesn't mean it is optimal strategy. The Bulls play starters 40mpg, and over the last 3 years(Thibs era) have had long injuries to Boozer and Noah(1st year), and then to Rose(last year and this year). There are always injuries, but playing a strategy that minimises the odds of injury is the best option.
The Spurs strategy has worked(In general). For example, this post from 2 years ago from Brewhoop (http://www.brewhoop.com/2011/7/21/2180038/comparing-the-bucks-injuries-to-a-decades-worth-of-data) which shows that the Spurs have been one of the best teams in the league at avoiding injuries, even with old rosters. There will still be injuries, but the instances of those injuries does not mean it's abad strategy.
Remember when the 2005 Spurs started hot (in fact it was Pop's first year as All-Star coach) then Timmy injured his ankle and the Spurs stumbled into the playoffs as the 2nd seed? :hat
Splits
03-01-2013, 11:41 PM
Spurs coach Gregg Popovich indicated Tony Parker will be out for an extended period after spraining his left ankle in Friday’s 130-102 victory over Sacramento.
“He’ll be out a while,” Popovich said. “It’s a good one. Tony’s been pretty stalwart for us. He’s having an All-Star season, and as I said, I think playing better than any other point guard in the league consistently throughout the year. We’ll definitely miss him.”
Said Tim Duncan, “Obviously it’s a huge loss. He’s been our leader all year long. But we’ve played with all kinds of different people this year. We’re going to rally. Pop’s going to change some lineups. We’re not going to replace him obviously, but we’re going to have to change the way we play for a little while.
“We’re going to have to pick it up and continue to be aggressive and attack in the fashion he has for us. We’ll try to get a lot of ball movement, a lot of body movement and try to counter it
superjames1992
03-01-2013, 11:47 PM
Per par, it's Manu's time to carry this team to an NBA Title, tbh.
Budkin
03-01-2013, 11:47 PM
Remember when the 2005 Spurs started hot (in fact it was Pop's first year as All-Star coach) then Timmy injured his ankle and the Spurs stumbled into the playoffs as the 2nd seed? :hat
This is quite similar in fact. That sprain at Detroit looked just as bad.
Robz4000
03-01-2013, 11:50 PM
Hoping for the best, expecting the worst. Felt far more depressed after Timmy's injury scare, so hopefully this injury follows the trend. It's time for someone else to step up for a while.
Mugen
03-01-2013, 11:59 PM
Dropping out of 1st isn't the worst thing in the world if it means playing HOU/UTAH in the first round instead of a hot Laker team tbh.
Assuming he comes back a week or two before the RS ends, I agree with those saying that this could be a blessing in disguise. This team, particularly Manu/TD/Kawhi, need to learn how to win without TP setting everything up for them.
BatManu20
03-01-2013, 11:59 PM
Per par, it's Manu's time to carry this team to an NBA Title, tbh.
Yea wait til he's almost 36 and fragile to try and ride him to a title.. :lol
RuffnReadyOzStyle
03-02-2013, 12:05 AM
Dropping out of 1st isn't the worst thing in the world if it means playing HOU/UTAH in the first round instead of a hot Laker team tbh.
Assuming he comes back a week or two before the RS ends, I agree with those saying that this could be a blessing in disguise. This team, particularly Manu/TD/Kawhi, need to learn how to win without TP setting everything up for them.
Good point.
And as long as TP can come back with a week or two left in the season to work himslef back to game shape, we should be fine. If he can't come back until during the playoffs things will get dicey.
Sean Cagney
03-02-2013, 12:07 AM
Remember when the 2005 Spurs started hot (in fact it was Pop's first year as All-Star coach) then Timmy injured his ankle and the Spurs stumbled into the playoffs as the 2nd seed? :hat
Yes I remember that, we had a Prime Tim then even though he was hurt and Ginobili was out of this world that year especially in the playoffs! I don't see the relation here at all sides they might stumble into the playoffs and get the 2nd seed. That is a looooooong time ago.
Per par, it's Manu's time to carry this team to an NBA Title, tbh.
Pshhhh, that guy can't stay healthy to save his life. He is also 36 and past his prime :(
Xevious
03-02-2013, 12:09 AM
Hopefullly he can be back at full strength come playoff time. This just magnifies my frustration with last season. It was the first time in years that all of our guys were healthy going into the playoffs.
Dropping out of 1st isn't the worst thing in the world if it means playing HOU/UTAH in the first round instead of a hot Laker team tbh.
Assuming he comes back a week or two before the RS ends, I agree with those saying that this could be a blessing in disguise. This team, particularly Manu/TD/Kawhi, need to learn how to win without TP setting everything up for them.
Just like the 2005 team needed Manu and Tony to step up in 2005, tbh.
Buddy Holly
03-02-2013, 12:11 AM
Probably the usual 4-6 weeks
No. Don't estimate again, thanks.
DrunkTXLabrat
03-02-2013, 12:12 AM
terrible news, but i think the spurs will be alright. i think it's huge opportunity for nando and kawhi. i imagine nando pickin up the slack in assists, and kawhi in the points.
this also sets the stage for a mills/cojo backup battle. mills player option fate will be decided.
also wanna chime in on pops minute and injury hounding posters. it's a good strategy. yeah injuries happen, but less minutes = less risk of happen = less risk of injury. plus nando and mills are not so rusty. that's a bonus too.
mercos
03-02-2013, 12:13 AM
The Spurs are lucky this happened now, instead of before the Rodeo Road Trip. A home heavy schedule will ease the loss of Parker. It doesn't hurt that Manu just had a 15 assist night. I would think the choice is between starting him at point, or going with De Colo. Nando has played well when he started. The only problem with starting Ginobili is that then we would have no bench.
I honestly believe they can hold on to the number one spot even if Parker misses the rest of the regular season. He has been our best player, but unlike the Clippers, the Spurs are not overly reliant on him. As long as Manu doesn't get hurt as well over this stretch, we still have an all world playmaker. I am very confident that Tiago Splitter and Kawhi Leonard can pick up the scoring slack left by Parker's absence. Those two have needed more touches for some time, and now they are going to get them.
HarlemHeat37
03-02-2013, 12:18 AM
While I agree that the Spurs need to be less reliant on Parker, how exactly would any potential success without him translate to subsequent games following his return?..
Parker is a ball-dominant player, as are all top PGs..when he's on the floor, the rest of the team compliments his game, not the other way around..
capek
03-02-2013, 12:29 AM
While I agree that the Spurs need to be less reliant on Parker, how exactly would any potential success without him translate to subsequent games following his return?..
Parker is a ball-dominant player, as are all top PGs..when he's on the floor, the rest of the team compliments his game, not the other way around..
Well, we have a very recent reminder of the tendency this team has developed this season to rely on Parker in crunch time to make buckets, and forget about the ball movement. The Phoenix game? Not having Parker on the court for a few weeks, if nothing else, will force the rest of the team to rely more on ball movement even late in games, experience which should stick around once Parker gets back.
BatManu20
03-02-2013, 12:29 AM
Dropping out of 1st isn't the worst thing in the world if it means playing HOU/UTAH in the first round instead of a hot Laker team tbh.
Assuming he comes back a week or two before the RS ends, I agree with those saying that this could be a blessing in disguise. This team, particularly Manu/TD/Kawhi, need to learn how to win without TP setting everything up for them.
I think the Lakers make the 7th seed and we end up playing them in the 1st round anyways. They have a pretty easy schedule coming up in their next 15 games outside of a couple and I have zero faith in Houston and Utah to keep winning.
jestersmash
03-02-2013, 12:30 AM
While I agree that the Spurs need to be less reliant on Parker, how exactly would any potential success without him translate to subsequent games following his return?..
Parker is a ball-dominant player, as are all top PGs..when he's on the floor, the rest of the team compliments his game, not the other way around..
Parker draws so much attention that our complementary role players can afford to be a little bit "sloppy," in a sense, when making plays off the ball.
Our secondary ball handlers are quite a bit more inferior/ineffective compared to Tony in terms facilitating (Manu, De Colo, Mills, Neal, you name it) which leaves far less wiggle room for our other guys playing off the ball.
Without Tony, you have to set cleaner screens, your positioning on the roll (off a pick and roll) has to be more optimal, your timing on passes has to be a little bit more crisp because the defense isn't nearly as worried of De Colo or Neal with the ball versus Tony Parker.
I mean this is all speculation of course, but it feels almost miraculous when De Colo, for example, successfully assists against a competent defense, given that he's such a non-threat to score. The timing/precision of his passes has to be absolutely on point.
Mugen
03-02-2013, 12:33 AM
Looked a lot like Aaron Brook's injury against us a couple of years back. I believe he was diagnosed to be to 4-6 weeks and missed around 5 weeks.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpwqIQaGFmg
HarlemHeat37
03-02-2013, 12:33 AM
Well, we have a very recent reminder of the tendency this team has developed this season to rely on Parker in crunch time to make buckets, and forget about the ball movement. The Phoenix game? Not having Parker on the court for a few weeks, if nothing else, will force the rest of the team to rely more on ball movement even late in games, experience which should stick around once Parker gets back.
True, but this will require Ginobili and Duncan to draw the opposing defense and opening the floor for the rest of the guys..are they still capable of performing at that level?..they both failed in clutch time vs. Phoenix as well, it wasn't just Parker's impact that was negated..
I excluded Kawhi, because it appears that the Spurs are still hesitant to let him create in clutch moments..
superjames1992
03-02-2013, 12:34 AM
Pshhhh, that guy can't stay healthy to save his life. He is also 36 and past his prime :(
Apparently, Tony can't stay healthy either, getting injured so close to the playoffs, smh.
DrunkTXLabrat
03-02-2013, 12:37 AM
While I agree that the Spurs need to be less reliant on Parker, how exactly would any potential success without him translate to subsequent games following his return?..
Parker is a ball-dominant player, as are all top PGs..when he's on the floor, the rest of the team compliments his game, not the other way around..
disagree.
i think the team compliments each other more than any one player compliments the team.
imo, that's the benefit of having a coach that's just as important as a big time player.
HarlemHeat37
03-02-2013, 12:39 AM
Parker draws so much attention that our complementary role players can afford to be a little bit "sloppy," in a sense, when making plays off the ball.
Our secondary ball handlers are quite a bit more inferior/ineffective compared to Tony in terms facilitating (Manu, De Colo, Mills, Neal, you name it) which leaves far less wiggle room for our other guys playing off the ball.
Without Tony, you have to set cleaner screens, your positioning on the roll (off a pick and roll) has to be more optimal, your timing on passes has to be a little bit more crisp because the defense isn't nearly as worried of De Colo or Neal with the ball versus Tony Parker.
I mean this is all speculation of course, but it feels almost miraculous when De Colo, for example, successfully assists against a competent defense, given that he's such a non-threat to score. The timing/precision of his passes has to be absolutely on point.
I agree with all of this, but my point is that I don't think the rest of the team is going to gain useful experience or discover any new internal qualities without Parker..
The only silver lining is that Parker could get some needed rest, and that this may force Duncan/Ginobili to play with more aggression..this could determine whether Ginobili can still reach another level of play and could gauge Kawhi's responsibility level in the playoffs..
Mugen
03-02-2013, 12:39 AM
True, but this will require Ginobili and Duncan to draw the opposing defense and opening the floor for the rest of the guys..are they still capable of performing at that level?..they both failed in clutch time vs. Phoenix as well, it wasn't just Parker's impact that was negated..
I excluded Kawhi, because it appears that the Spurs are still hesitant to let him create in clutch moments..
I'm hoping TP's absence benefits Kawhi more than anybody else. I'm not expecting Manu/TD to carry this team for an extended period of time as I just don't think they're physically capable of doing it anymore. But if TP's not around, then I think Pop is forced to call more plays for Leonard where he can be a playmaker and not have to rely on TP breaking down the defense. Such experience could prove to be invaluable when TP is inevitably slowed by longer defenders in the playoffs.
This team isn't getting past the WCF if Kawhi doesn't play like a borderline all-star in the playoffs tbh.
Sean Cagney
03-02-2013, 12:40 AM
Apparently, Tony can't stay healthy either, getting injured so close to the playoffs, smh.
Eh he has stayed alot healthier than Manu! Manu gets hurt every other week or so. Tony is also in his prime years, Manu is almost 36 years old now so how the hell is he going to lead us to a title? He is not near what he was in 05-08 or so. Tony did get hurt, but he doesn't get hurt a whole lot nor miss playoff series etc.
I agree with all of this, but my point is that I don't think the rest of the team is going to gain useful experience or discover any new internal qualities without Parker..
The only silver lining is that Parker could get some needed rest, and that this may force Duncan/Ginobili to play with more aggression..this could determine whether Ginobili can still reach another level of play and could gauge Kawhi's responsibility level in the playoffs..
See this is what I want to see, if Ginobili can still get near his older level and if Kawhi has more in him like we know he does! This is the part of me that is excited to see what they can do. Tony is hurt and thats that, now lets try to see positives from it .
hater
03-02-2013, 12:41 AM
lol all you weenies calling doom :lol y'all are weak. especially harlem, dude acts like he knows basketball :lmao since basketball is his life you'd think he'd be more knowledgeable
hater wrong bout dem injuries per par
would be ironic if TP ends up missing more games than Manu, tbh
ball moves better when manu is running the PG spot anyways...
:lmao fucking morons. probably never played a sport in their life
here's to TP somehow getting better quick
capek
03-02-2013, 12:41 AM
True, but this will require Ginobili and Duncan to draw the opposing defense and opening the floor for the rest of the guys..are they still capable of performing at that level?..they both failed in clutch time vs. Phoenix as well, it wasn't just Parker's impact that was negated..
I excluded Kawhi, because it appears that the Spurs are still hesitant to let him create in clutch moments..
My observation from that game was that it was more about the team 'forgoing' the system in favor of the more direct one on one approach. So in my eyes it's not about any one player being able to do this or that, but the whole team playing within the system, making the extra pass, etc. Now, it still begs the question, when the opposing team gets really tough and plays hard on defense, can this system hold up? It didn't do so well in the WCFs, but then again a lot of our role players shrunk, Tiago couldn't hit his free throws, we had trouble getting stops, and of course Harden going vintage Manu on our asses.
I'm just looking for a bright spot here, and it's that without Tony for a few weeks, the team will have no choice but to rely more on the system, which hopefully will pay dividends in the playoffs when we get into those tough games where the opposing team is playing really tough defense.
hater
03-02-2013, 12:44 AM
I'm with pego on this one, tbh... dramatic cliff jumping is dramatic...
MRI tomorrow probably... we'll know more then
:lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao
KaiRMD1
03-02-2013, 12:46 AM
My belief is that now the real season begins
ElNono
03-02-2013, 12:49 AM
:lmao fucking morons. probably never played a sport in their life
shit takes never stop :lmao
:lol pretending anybody here can be compared to professional athletes...
brah, go back to celebrate Spurs' players injuries... that's your thing
capek
03-02-2013, 12:49 AM
I agree with all of this, but my point is that I don't think the rest of the team is going to gain useful experience or discover any new internal qualities without Parker..
The only silver lining is that Parker could get some needed rest, and that this may force Duncan/Ginobili to play with more aggression..this could determine whether Ginobili can still reach another level of play and could gauge Kawhi's responsibility level in the playoffs..
I don't get this. So you don't think Kawhi got anything from that Chicago game? Your important players sit, which means there's more minutes and responsibility for other players, which means that get more court time, which means at the end of the day they have more experience than the would otherwise have had. For professional basketball players at this level, more court time can only be a good thing. If they don't end up taking advantage of it, well they weren't going to help the team much anyways when it matters in the playoffs. But for Mills, De Colo, maybe CoJo, and probably Kawhi because he'll get more offensive touches, not having Tony for a few weeks has to change their mindset. De Colo I'm a little iffy on at this point, but I think Mills because of his NT experience, and Kawhi because he's a bad ass, will respond well to having more responsibility but on their shoulders.
ElNono
03-02-2013, 12:51 AM
:pctoss
looked very bad. TP has a huge pain tolerance, so seeing him wince in pain is very troubling
I'm with pego on this one, tbh... dramatic cliff jumping is dramatic...
:lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao
timvp
03-02-2013, 01:04 AM
For the worst case scenario-ers out there, playoffs start in seven weeks. Obviously the Spurs are in big trouble if the prognosis is in the 6+ week range.
HarlemHeat37
03-02-2013, 01:07 AM
I don't get this. So you don't think Kawhi got anything from that Chicago game? Your important players sit, which means there's more minutes and responsibility for other players, which means that get more court time, which means at the end of the day they have more experience than the would otherwise have had. For professional basketball players at this level, more court time can only be a good thing. If they don't end up taking advantage of it, well they weren't going to help the team much anyways when it matters in the playoffs. But for Mills, De Colo, maybe CoJo, and probably Kawhi because he'll get more offensive touches, not having Tony for a few weeks has to change their mindset. De Colo I'm a little iffy on at this point, but I think Mills because of his NT experience, and Kawhi because he's a bad ass, will respond well to having more responsibility but on their shoulders.
Yes, I do, but as I pointed out earlier, Kawhi's confidence is already high..he will get more touches with Parker out, but he will revert back to his current role once TP returns..the Chicago game allowed Kawhi to expand his role and display his versatility..Leonard is the only player outside of the big 3 that has the ability to play more than a supporting role, though..
De Colo, for example, has displayed intriguing potential in a starting role, because he's forced to exert more aggression..once De Colo returned to his bench role, he lost his aggressive streak and reverted back to his shaky and inconsistent game..evidently, he has not effectively translated any of his gained confidence and aggression from those starting gigs to his usual bench role..
ElNono
03-02-2013, 01:11 AM
I think we have a good stretch of games at home, IIRC... that should help too
Mugen
03-02-2013, 01:16 AM
Typical SPHAM tbh.
Spurs Players Hurt After March.
BatManu20
03-02-2013, 01:16 AM
At least OKC lost tonight to Denver. And Lol at Ty Lawson for doing the Bernie after hitting the GW shot.
jestersmash
03-02-2013, 01:41 AM
At least OKC lost tonight to Denver. And Lol at Ty Lawson for doing the Bernie after hitting the GW shot.
I was surprised at the final FT differential. Denver usually gets the kind whistle at home, even against a ref-coddled team like OKC. Nice to see Denver pull it out int he end.
TheGoldStandard
03-02-2013, 01:45 AM
I was surprised at the final FT differential. Denver usually gets the kind whistle at home, even against a ref-coddled team like OKC. Nice to see Denver pull it out int he end.
The refs did everything they could to make Andre Miller the patsy tonight but Durant going cold from mid range saved the day for Denver.
The refs did everything they could to make Andre Miller the patsy tonight but Durant going cold from mid range saved the day for Denver.
OKC's playmaking down the stretch was:
Durant ISO. Brick.
Durant ISO. Brick.
Durant ISO. Decides to drive, gets the layup.
Clipper Nation
03-02-2013, 01:52 AM
Damn, that sucks, guys.... it's crazy that all of the top point guards in the league (CP3, Parker, Rose, Ra'on) have missed or will miss significant time this year....
Yes, I do, but as I pointed out earlier, Kawhi's confidence is already high..he will get more touches with Parker out, but he will revert back to his current role once TP returns..the Chicago game allowed Kawhi to expand his role and display his versatility..Leonard is the only player outside of the big 3 that has the ability to play more than a supporting role, though..
De Colo, for example, has displayed intriguing potential in a starting role, because he's forced to exert more aggression..once De Colo returned to his bench role, he lost his aggressive streak and reverted back to his shaky and inconsistent game..evidently, he has not effectively translated any of his gained confidence and aggression from those starting gigs to his usual bench role..
Maybe a bigger sample size will change things
Anyway here's the thin silver lining:
Parker gets to rest and heal the rest of his body
Mills might lose a few pounds
Splitter might be able to prove he can have more than just a supporting role
Duncan/Manu get back into form
Godspeed
TheGoldStandard
03-02-2013, 01:57 AM
You know, Lebron has never had a serious injury that's kept him out more than a few games..
Kuestmaster
03-02-2013, 02:04 AM
Definetely, we're the San Injury Spurs.
Why always happen to us and the fuckers from okc and miami stay healthy for all the season?
HarlemHeat37
03-02-2013, 02:05 AM
Definetely, we're the San Injury Spurs.
Why always happen to us and the fuckers from okc and miami stay healthy for all the season?
Miami lost Bosh for half the playoffs last year..
Arcadian
03-02-2013, 02:05 AM
Maybe the Spurs will actually peak at the right time this year. They peaked too early the last 2 years. Parker just needs to be back for the playoffs. Whoever we play in the first round will be relatively easy - a tune-up of sorts for later rounds.
TheGoldStandard
03-02-2013, 02:07 AM
Definetely, we're the San Injury Spurs.
Why always happen to us and the fuckers from okc and miami stay healthy for all the season?
Well, Dwyane Wade is pieced together with duct tape he benefits from Lebron being a freak o' nature. Hopefully this will make the Spurs a stronger team on the whole.
Man In Black
03-02-2013, 02:59 AM
Again, the first 48 hours is so key. Spurs have a head of the class training facility and I expect that the Docs and trainer, Will Sevening, already have Tony on cryotherapy keeping the injured ankle cold to minimize the swelling. Once they control that, then they run the MRI to see the grade of the sprain. Since he came off a jump, the velocity is such that it's amplified...HOWEVER...when I look at it, it's not that he just turned it to the side, his foot came forward at the ball first and then he turned. In that case, that's not a bad thing, it means he didn't just go straight to the side for a typical inversion sprain which would result in a higher grade injury. Grade 2 means severe stretching and that is 2 weeks no on court play and then however long until training and Pop feel he's good to come back.
The possible complicating thing is if the force was re-directed and then became a high ankle sprain, that means it involves the ligaments not only in the ankle, it also includes the ligament above the ankle that joins the 2 lower leg bones. When that gets injured, it's an automatic 4-6 weeks of just straight healing. Let's hope that the syndesmotic ligament aka tib-fib ligaments aren't affected.
Again, it's critical to minimize swelling and then to see the alignment. I've hypothesized from the Duncan scare that I feel a team as equipped as San Antonio already knows what a normal x-ray or MRI looks like for TP. It's how much difference between normal and the ones taken after the injury that will help them determine course of action for treatment. It's the beginning of March and that means the teams have 6 weeks until the playoffs give or take, let's just hope TP's ankle is a no more than a grade 2 sprain and that he is a quick healer so we see him on the court in 3 weeks limited with the 4th week a giant uptick in minutes player to help Tony get back what he calls, "my ritim."
I plan on watching the team there at the end of the month and I hope to see him on the court.
Go TP...heal thyself!
Watch as he's rushed back for the OKC game.
timaios
03-02-2013, 06:52 AM
His left ankle didn't land on the foot of anybody according to this image:
http://proxy.storify.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fpbs.twimg.com%2Fmedia%2FBEUkltRC MAEJjy6.jpg
Sorry for the quality of the pictures, but his left ankle did land on the foot of Thomas.
http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/6724/68876002.jpg
http://img853.imageshack.us/img853/3684/84252794.jpg
http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/2614/51303299.jpg
http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/2142/44290951.jpg
timaios
03-02-2013, 08:07 AM
http://img593.imageshack.us/img593/759/parkerinjury.gif
Bruno
03-02-2013, 08:20 AM
http://blog.mysanantonio.com/spursnation/2013/03/01/spurs-win-game-lose-tony-parker/
Spurs coach Gregg Popovich said Parker would likely be out “a while” after rolling his left ankle on Sacramento guard Isaiah Thomas’ foot following a layup with 4:40 left in the third quarter.
Early indications are that “a while” could mean a couple of weeks.
Leetonidas
03-02-2013, 08:42 AM
He'll be back before the POs, it looked kinda bad but he hopped right up and didn't grimace too much. I'm sure he'll be back on the court soon. Maybe this will force the Spurs to learn to play without TP effectively
elemento
03-02-2013, 08:45 AM
This looks like 2005 Timmy all over again
I hope he gets back before the playoffs
bigfan
03-02-2013, 08:57 AM
Well, this blows but nothing to do now but throw the other guys in and soldier on. As long as he is back by the playoffs is the main thing. This is where De Colo and Mills need to use their brains.
Strategic
03-02-2013, 09:28 AM
Mike Monroe @Monroe_SA (https://twitter.com/Monroe_SA) Pop on parker ankle sprain: 'it's a good one, he'll be out a while'
Hopefully we've been CIA Popped, Tony has looked a little fatigued of late.
skulls138
03-02-2013, 09:33 AM
Now we have to play shut down defense. Thats a good thing.
Now we have to play shut down defense. Thats a good thing.
The Spurs have played elite D over their past few games. Their O just wasn't there in the OT losses @GS and vs PHX
The Spurs have one of the most best offense in NBA history, and Tiago is about to be freed. Tiago is about to put the team on his back.
thispego
03-02-2013, 10:14 AM
most best? :lol
Uriel
03-02-2013, 10:25 AM
Spurs coach Gregg Popovich said Parker would likely be out “a while” after rolling his left ankle on Sacramento guard Isaiah Thomas’ foot following a layup with 4:40 left in the third quarter.
Early indications are that “a while” could mean a couple of weeks.
Doesn't that mean two?
Strategic
03-02-2013, 10:57 AM
Doesn't that mean two?First comes the black and blue, then comes the gray that is ST.
Maybe a bigger sample size will change things
Anyway here's the thin silver lining:
Parker gets to rest and heal the rest of his body
Mills might lose a few pounds
Splitter might be able to prove he can have more than just a supporting role
Duncan/Manu get back into form
Godspeed
I don't see much silver lining if this is a bad ankle sprain. TP likely won't be back to his old self this season. And when he comes back he'll be prone to reinjuring that ankle. And it will affect his game -- he's always flying through the air waiting to land underneath the basket. He won't be able to land that way for a while and he will recognize that and adjust his game. When TP loses that sense of abandon, he's just an undersized guard trying to survive in a big man's game.
That said -- I see this silver lining. It may not be that bad an ankle sprain. Look at the photos -- TP's right foot is firmly planted at the time his left foot is twisting. That is huge in terms of the force being applied during that twist. So it's probably pretty much all or nothing as far as the Spurs' prospects go -- two weeks or let's hope for better luck next year.
skulls138
03-02-2013, 11:31 AM
The Spurs have played elite D over their past few games. Their O just wasn't there in the OT losses @GS and vs PHXI agree but to win it all, our D has to be one of the best or the best. I think this is a blessing in disguise. I have thought that in order for us to win it all, Manu has to be his old self, Kawhi has to be a part of the big 4 and our D has to be the best its been since the championship days. All these things can be turned up a notch now that they have to.
eDizzle20
03-02-2013, 12:25 PM
It will interesting see how much Pop will rely on Kawhi. Any injury is bad, but we'll get look at who emerges as the preferred back-up at pg (cojo, de colo, or mills).
Embedded
03-02-2013, 12:36 PM
There are a few things to consider:
1) Mr. Parker got right up. He's a fighter, and has a very high tolerance for pain. He didn't just writhe around in pain, his first instinct was to get up. I would have needed an ambulance, maybe 2.
2) With our homestand heavy schedule, he will be able to get full treatment every day.
3) last night we won, and OKC lost.
4) I believe in The System. All Hail The System.
5) Mr. Ginobili made a CAREER high 15 assists last night - a sign of things to come.
6) With Mr. Neal and Mr. Parker injured, this is a perfect opportunity for the three other PG's to gain experience.
superjames1992
03-02-2013, 12:43 PM
There are a few things to consider:
1) Mr. Parker got right up. He's a fighter, and has a very high tolerance for pain. He didn't just writhe around in pain, his first instinct was to get up. I would have needed an ambulance, maybe 2.
2) With our homestand heavy schedule, he will be able to get full treatment every day.
3) last night we won, and OKC lost.
4) I believe in The System. All Hail The System.
5) Mr. Ginobili made a CAREER high 15 assists last night - a sign of things to come.
6) With Mr. Neal and Mr. Parker injured, this is a perfect opportunity for the three other PG's to gain experience.
Thanks, Mister.
DesignatedT
03-02-2013, 01:15 PM
dan mccarney @danmccarneysaen
No update on Tony Parker at shootaround's end. Should get something by the end of the day. No guarantees, of course.
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Mr.Bottomtooth
03-02-2013, 01:34 PM
Out four weeks.
Mr.Bottomtooth
03-02-2013, 01:34 PM
Marc J. Spears @SpearsNBAYahoo
Spurs say guard Tony Parker is expected to be out for approximately four weeks with a Grade 2 left ankle sprain.
lefty
03-02-2013, 01:35 PM
Not too bad
We can win some games here and there
HCA is overrated
will_spurs
03-02-2013, 01:37 PM
http://www.nba.com/spurs/news/130302_parker_injury
Spurs guard Tony Parker underwent an MRI examination this morning in San Antonio. The MRI confirmed that Parker has a Grade 2 left ankle sprain. He is expected to be out for approximately four weeks. The injury occurred in the third quarter of last night's Spurs-Kings game.
Shit.
Robz4000
03-02-2013, 01:37 PM
Welp, could've been worse. Hopefully he can come back a little earlier for that brutal stretch at the end of the month.
loveforthegame
03-02-2013, 01:37 PM
Crap. Was hoping for better news but could have been worse.
Hopefully he won't be out the full length of time but if he is that gives him 2-3 weeks to get back in some sort of groove for the playoffs.
Time for guys to step up.
shyne
03-02-2013, 01:39 PM
He's a fast healer ill say three weeks.
smaka
03-02-2013, 01:40 PM
To look at it from the bright side: Better now than in playoffs.
DesignatedT
03-02-2013, 01:40 PM
4 weeks. 3 if were lucky.
RD2191
03-02-2013, 01:41 PM
4 weeks, damn
ace3g
03-02-2013, 01:41 PM
Tony will spend a lot of time in this:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BENtWd2CcAEN4ZR.jpg:large
307209432322961408
Robz4000
03-02-2013, 01:42 PM
Tony will spend a lot of time in this:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BENtWd2CcAEN4ZR.jpg:large
307209432322961408
:lol
freetiago
03-02-2013, 01:43 PM
starting to look like the 2011 season where all the guys were relatively healthy and hot to start out the season then everyone got injured after the all star break
DesignatedT
03-02-2013, 01:43 PM
I'd say the earliest would be the 27th vs DEN and the latest April 3 vs ORL. 8-12 games before the playoffs start.
Bruno
03-02-2013, 01:45 PM
Wow. That's a lot.
Let's hope he will be able to be back at 100% for the playoffs.
dbreiden83080
03-02-2013, 01:49 PM
Well time for guys to step it up.. Kawhi can really step up his offensive game now..
Robz4000
03-02-2013, 01:50 PM
Definitely not that bad, provided he's back by the end of the month. Spurs play 12 games between now and the 31st, and all but 2 are at home. IMO the Houston game is a throwaway to help keep the Lakers out of the playoffs. The OKC game will be tough and more than likely a loss, but maybe they'll surprise us. The rest of the games excluding Denver and LAC are very winnable. Hopefully a backup PG emerges through all this.
Mugen
03-02-2013, 01:50 PM
Could have been worse. Gives him and the team some time to get their rhythm back before the playoffs. Hopefully this is the last serious injury of the season.
Brunodf
03-02-2013, 01:53 PM
:pctoss:pctoss
timvp
03-02-2013, 01:53 PM
Damn, that sucks.
Bambililos
03-02-2013, 01:54 PM
Parker expected to miss approximately four weeks.
http://www.nba.com/spurs/news/130302_parker_injury
will_spurs
03-02-2013, 01:55 PM
That includes a lot of games against top teams. I wonder if Stern will fine the Spurs for Tony's injury...
LongtimeSpursFan
03-02-2013, 01:55 PM
Back in time for game against Miami Heat. That game could decide home court advantage throughout playoffs.
Captivus
03-02-2013, 01:56 PM
This injury couldn't have come in a better time, a lot of games at home: no excuses now for other PGs.
I just HOPE!! Pop decides for 1 of the PGs available.
Like many, I want to see CoJo just a little more.
Then again, having NDC and Mills is not bad.
The teams is looking very good to my eyes, very good.
ace3g
03-02-2013, 02:00 PM
At the 2 week mark, we should know how close he is or not to returning; by that stage he will be well into his rehab.
Juggity
03-02-2013, 02:02 PM
Jesus, 4 weeks. It's going to be tough to win games without TP in clutch situations.
timvp
03-02-2013, 02:02 PM
If he is out four weeks, that's 11 games:
vs. DET
vs. CHI
vs. POR
vs. OKC
@ MIN
vs. DAL
vs. CLE
vs. GSW
vs. UTA
@ HOU
vs. DEN
Thankfully, the games are mostly at home. With Parker, the Spurs probably cruise to something like 10-1 or 9-2 during this stretch. Without him, it's going to be a lot more difficult, obviously.
Reasons for the high suck-age of this news:
1. Who knows how long four weeks really is in Pop days... If this is really a 5 or 6 week injury, that'd really suck.
2. Even four weeks out would give TP just three weeks to prepare for the playoffs.
3. His ankle is now susceptible to re-spraining the rest of the season.
4. This was the stretch where the Spurs were supposed to cash in on all those early road games. If the Spurs do any worse than 8-3 during this stretch, their homecourt advantage would be in serious jeopardy.
jjktkk
03-02-2013, 02:04 PM
Sucks for Tony, but this could be a great opportunity for one of the backup pgs to step up a solidfy their spot for the backup job.
Floyd Pacquiao
03-02-2013, 02:04 PM
damn that sucks..if he really is out for 4 weeks than that only leaves him 3 weeks of games to get his rhythm back before the playoffs
crc21209
03-02-2013, 02:08 PM
Well, it could've been worse I guess. But it still sucks....get well soon TP!
Budkin
03-02-2013, 02:11 PM
Could have been way way worse. I'm grateful it's only 4 weeks.
Darkwaters
03-02-2013, 02:12 PM
Class 2 sprain means ligament damage. 4 weeks might be on the low side to be honest...especially with it being his left (and bad) ankle.
4 weeks is pretty bad but it could be worse...
crc21209
03-02-2013, 02:14 PM
Damn, a lot of those games just went from a 80% chance of winning them to a toss up now.The really, really tough ones are going to be against OKC, GS, Houston, and Denver...
Budkin
03-02-2013, 02:15 PM
Mills and DeColo are serviceable as long as everyone else picks up their games.
crc21209
03-02-2013, 02:16 PM
Class 2 sprain means ligament damage. 4 weeks might be on the low side to be honest...especially with it being his left (and bad) ankle.
Don't you think if they thought it was worse they would've said 4-6 or 4-8 weeks instead?
Hoops Czar
03-02-2013, 02:16 PM
The Spurs play better when one of the big three are injured. I don't think this will be a big deal considering most of their games will be played at home.
Joyrider
03-02-2013, 02:18 PM
The Spurs play better when one of the big three are injured. I don't think this will be a big deal considering most of their games will be played at home.
Exactly. This is perfect time for Manu to up his game because if he isn't playing at an elite level with Duncan, Spurs have no chance of getting to the Finals.
Brunodf
03-02-2013, 02:18 PM
Manu/TD/Kawhi/Splitter/Green have to step up...
timvp
03-02-2013, 02:23 PM
Don't you think if they thought it was worse they would've said 4-6 or 4-8 weeks instead?The Spurs aren't exactly known for giving accurate timetables regarding injuries, so it'd be unwise to pencil any return date for Parker. Hopefully we hear from him soon so he can indicate how bad it is. Hopefully it's not so bad he's in an air cast or on crutches ...
The Spurs play better when one of the big three are injured.Typically bads per pars.
ace3g
03-02-2013, 02:24 PM
It might also come down to the playoff seeding picture. Not very likely in the west, but if the Spurs are guaranteed a certain favorable match up, could give the Spurs more time to rest/rehab Parker.
Granted Spurs aren't the type of team to rest a certain player through a playoff series and then bring him in for the next.
capek
03-02-2013, 02:27 PM
Just glad nothing was torn. He'll be able to make it back before the playoffs, which is all that matters. I'll think we'll pull through this stretch just fine. Excited to see Kawhi get a lot more offensive touches while Tony is out, that should really help come playoff time. Also think Manu will step things up, and now that Duncan is closer to finding his rhythm, we should be able to ride him a little more. Neal will come back soon, to provide a little more offense (hopefully the rest will allow him to get back to hitting his shots). I'm really not all that worried, just hope Tony's rehab goes smoothly and there are no setbacks.
tmtcsc
03-02-2013, 02:30 PM
The good news is: Tony is a fast healer. As great as TP has been for us, relying on him to produce at the same level or to count on him in the playoffs is dangerous. Teams know how to stop him and once they do, we are toast. If they clog the lane and put a taller defender who has some speed on him, he's done.
Hopefully, the injury will change the dynamics of the team and we won't rely on him as much to be successful. I fully realize that sounds crazy but its true. It happened against the Lakers when they came back from a 2-0 deficit and it happened last year against OKC when they did the same. Tony got discombobulated and turned the ball over and it threw everything out of whack. Don't get me wrong, he's improved tremendously in all areas but I won't trust him in the playoffs until he can do it consistently. --> Which he hasn't. If Cleveland had somebody to guard him in 2007, he wouldn't have won MVP and we wouldn't have swept them.
Our success in the playoffs this year will come from the team adjusting to when other teams try similar tactics. The next few weeks will help the team prepare for it. I'm not too concerned. If we lose homecourt, we lose homecourt. It didn't do us any good last year. To win the Championship you have to win on the road and battle through adversity. Last year, winning 20 games in a row was a detriment. The Spurs forgot what it took to respond to a loss. They forgot how important winning game 5's were. Hell, by the time they reached the WCF, they hadn't played in one.
HarlemHeat37
03-02-2013, 02:37 PM
Hopefully the Spurs get a 1st round bye(Utah), tbh..
txstr1986
03-02-2013, 02:40 PM
At least this happened now and not a month from now.
Time to see what CoJo can do!
superjames1992
03-02-2013, 02:56 PM
I hope he is at 100% for the playoffs, tbh.
superjames1992
03-02-2013, 02:56 PM
The good news is: Tony is a fast healer.
He's not getting any younger, though.
ginobilized
03-02-2013, 03:09 PM
Silver lining: others step up and Manu gets it together
Worst case: we ride Duncan and Manu too hard and another player gets injured or they run out of gas by the playoffs
I hope TP heals fully and can get back to his previous level by the playoffs
I am telling you. Manu fucking Ginobili is going to go off in the month of march.this.
The Spurs are deep enough to get the through this. The silver lining is, they'll have time to learn how to play without completely depending on Parker, which could help them with the whole "big guards give Parker trouble" thing.
Spurs21Fan4Ever
03-02-2013, 03:16 PM
You guys will probably think i"m crazy, but I had the exact same injury a few years ago and I was out 5 weeks. It's painful, but when it fully heals, feels like nothing ever happened. And the good news is Tony Parker is probably way tougher than me and he has professional trainers to help him out. No doubt Parker will be 100% by the playoffs. It was amazing to me how all of the sudden my ankle was 100%. The only thing that does worry me though, it the possibility of slight tweaks to it. To this day I will occasionally tweak my ankle randomly, and it will feel as painful as when I first sprained it, and I'll have to sit out a day or two. It will even swell up a tiny bit, but on around the third day it felt like nothing ever happened. I'm sure the trainers will help with that issue for Parker, but I am slightly worried of the possibility that he tweaks his ankle during the playoffs causing him to miss a game, but most likely that won't happen. Prayers for Parker and hoping the team steps up without him and role players get better because of this! This could be a blessing in disguise, but I still prefer that Parker never got injured.
Strategic
03-02-2013, 03:19 PM
Class 2 sprain means ligament damage. 4 weeks might be on the low side to be honest...especially with it being his left (and bad) ankle.Tony's first step is the strength of his offensive game, not to mention what he needs to cover a quick perimeter player. Hopefully the four weeks is what it will take to get that strength back 100%. Pop can patch the PG position with Manu, Neal and a little bit of the others, or he can seperate out the man from the boys considering De Colo, Mills and Joseph. The catch is that now he needs a starting and back up point guard to come forward. :dizzy
look_at_g_shred
03-02-2013, 03:23 PM
Now you all get your fucking wish no more hero ball. Hope you guys are happy...
Hoops Czar
03-02-2013, 03:25 PM
Typically bads per pars.
Get over yourself. The Spurs are way too reliant on TP. They aren't winning a championship with Mr. Everything having to do it all. In all seriousness, this is the perfect opportunity for other players not named Tony to step it up. If the Spurs can survive injuries from Manu and Timmy, I think they can survive without Parker for four weeks. And with a stroke of luck, the Spurs might just find their backup pg.
Joyrider
03-02-2013, 03:30 PM
Also blows that Parker didn't get POTM but the title was handed to Bryant for a 9-4 record.
spurraider21
03-02-2013, 03:32 PM
Well this will certainly force the backup point guards to step up
look_at_g_shred
03-02-2013, 03:32 PM
Remember last season when Manu went down, everyone thought our season was done? We didn't skip a beat. It also paved the way for a player to step up and breakout (green). Hopefully that's the case this time for CoJo.
timvp
03-02-2013, 03:33 PM
A scary factor is how screwed the Spurs would be in Duncan or Ginobili go down right now. Expecting them both to be healthy for a month straight at this stage of their careers is ........ ambitious.
Robz4000
03-02-2013, 03:39 PM
A scary factor is how screwed the Spurs would be in Duncan or Ginobili go down right now. Expecting them both to be healthy for a month straight at this stage of their careers is ........ ambitious.
Considering how home heavy this stretch is on top of the amount of rest between games, it shouldn't be too much. However, someone besides Tim and Manu is gonna have to step up.
DrunkTXLabrat
03-02-2013, 03:50 PM
how do 1st round picks work for playoff teams? does the pick get better based on playoff exit or regular season record?
hopefully he is out three weeks but he was looking kind of tired for the last 4 games
Darkwaters
03-02-2013, 03:52 PM
Don't you think if they thought it was worse they would've said 4-6 or 4-8 weeks instead?
Hard to say. I didn't assess the patient. But I do know that class 2 means ligament damage. And that by itself is concerning.
siraulo23
03-02-2013, 04:04 PM
Shit
Not enough time for Parker to recover to 100% before the playoffs begin and for the team to start gelling and find a definitive rotation
Let's hope 4 weeks is the worst case scenario and Parker gets back on the court much sooner.
Spurs have to hope for a favorable matchup in the first round if Parker is not gonna be a 100% for a while
siraulo23
03-02-2013, 04:09 PM
Again, the first 48 hours is so key. Spurs have a head of the class training facility and I expect that the Docs and trainer, Will Sevening, already have Tony on cryotherapy keeping the injured ankle cold to minimize the swelling. Once they control that, then they run the MRI to see the grade of the sprain. Since he came off a jump, the velocity is such that it's amplified...HOWEVER...when I look at it, it's not that he just turned it to the side, his foot came forward at the ball first and then he turned. In that case, that's not a bad thing, it means he didn't just go straight to the side for a typical inversion sprain which would result in a higher grade injury. Grade 2 means severe stretching and that is 2 weeks no on court play and then however long until training and Pop feel he's good to come back.
The possible complicating thing is if the force was re-directed and then became a high ankle sprain, that means it involves the ligaments not only in the ankle, it also includes the ligament above the ankle that joins the 2 lower leg bones. When that gets injured, it's an automatic 4-6 weeks of just straight healing. Let's hope that the syndesmotic ligament aka tib-fib ligaments aren't affected.
Again, it's critical to minimize swelling and then to see the alignment. I've hypothesized from the Duncan scare that I feel a team as equipped as San Antonio already knows what a normal x-ray or MRI looks like for TP. It's how much difference between normal and the ones taken after the injury that will help them determine course of action for treatment. It's the beginning of March and that means the teams have 6 weeks until the playoffs give or take, let's just hope TP's ankle is a no more than a grade 2 sprain and that he is a quick healer so we see him on the court in 3 weeks limited with the 4th week a giant uptick in minutes player to help Tony get back what he calls, "my ritim."
I plan on watching the team there at the end of the month and I hope to see him on the court.
Go TP...heal thyself!
Props tbh, let's hope he's back 2-3 weeks
Kidd K
03-02-2013, 04:11 PM
It sucks Parker went down now right when we were primed to start putting together our final rotations and defensive schemes. I guess at least this didn't happen 2 months from now. Then we'd be completely fucked. Luckily, Manu seems to be somewhat reasonably healthy, so he can take over more ballhandling duties. Then again, we don't want to see Manu pushed too hard until the WCF and Finals. :\
looked like a regular sprain, IMO... Non-Issue
Most of them look similar, whether they're really terrible or not. I've seen guys roll their ankles "normally", but it end up being grade 3 sprains which can have 5-6 week recovery periods. And even then, ankle stiffness for weeks. Supposedly Tony's is just a grade 2, but that still means a ligament tear.
Parker's probably going to be kept out longer than he normally would be to prevent further injury. We will probably lose the top seed because of this. I really hate that loss to the Suns now, and that Pistons loss. We may have been able to retain the top seed if not for those failures. Just gotta hope OKC tanks a few games now. Go Westbrook.
spurs10
03-02-2013, 04:16 PM
A scary factor is how screwed the Spurs would be in Duncan or Ginobili go down right now. Expecting them both to be healthy for a month straight at this stage of their careers is ........ ambitious.
Ouch...I was just wondering before the game how long it would be before one of them gets injured. That question has been answered. The idea of more than one of them being down is indeed 'scary.'
DeadlyDynasty
03-02-2013, 04:19 PM
Great news
Proxy
03-02-2013, 04:21 PM
Only two road games this month at least.
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