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Boomersgold
03-02-2013, 12:01 AM
Who fills in at Point Guard while Tony Parker is out, and why?

DesignatedT
03-02-2013, 12:02 AM
Nando should start. CJ off the bench.

Nando is the only one who can semi-create for others.

benfti
03-02-2013, 12:03 AM
Blair for the lolz

Boomersgold
03-02-2013, 12:06 AM
Nando should start. CJ off the bench.

Nando is the only one who can semi-create for others.

I'd prefer Nando to start, and Pop bring Patty off the bench.

Brunodf
03-02-2013, 12:08 AM
Hopefully not Neal.

Boomersgold
03-02-2013, 12:09 AM
Hopefully not Neal.

Neal's also an option that Pop can go to.

GB20
03-02-2013, 12:09 AM
i think with cojo we have a true point guard.

playblair
03-02-2013, 12:12 AM
cojo...................... cojo defense >>>>>>>>>>> patty nando combined .............. its refreshing to see a spurs pg fight through screens& not get caught in p&r ..............

TheGoldStandard
03-02-2013, 12:18 AM
In some alternate universe "evil" Matt Bonner is donning his eye patch and getting ready to do work. Hopefully we get a steady dose of Mills, De Colo and Corey Joseph but it'll end up being Gary Neal and circle gets the square.

Chris
03-02-2013, 12:18 AM
Guaranteed Pop starts De Colo.

Mugen
03-02-2013, 12:19 AM
Nando should have won the backup PG role outright after the Miami game tbh. He's the least flawed out of him/Neal/Patty/CJ. Pop's really mishandled the backup PG role so far this season. Sure nobody has stepped up and seized it but it's tough when Pop flip flops every game.

I'd prefer Nando to start while TP is out, and he will be out a while IMO.

DrunkTXLabrat
03-02-2013, 12:20 AM
Hopefully not Neal.

amen!

i vote nando, the spurs need him to fill the void in assists. although, manu did put in a pretty good application tonight.

i hate to say it... but if pop is gonna play blair over baynes. he might as well keep manu in the bench squad with him. blair can't defend, but if manu can keep him goin' point for point... gwah! that idea is difficult to type.

spurraider21
03-02-2013, 12:30 AM
I prefer nando starts. My gut days Pop wants to start Neal, but with Neal being hurt I guess Nando will be the starter for the time being. Hopefully CoJo gets some burn. I think he's good enough to steal the show if given a legit opportunity

AFBlue
03-02-2013, 12:50 AM
My vote goes to CoJo...runs the sets, plays D and doesn't turn the ball over.

Mills off the bench w/ Manu.

RuffnReadyOzStyle
03-02-2013, 12:52 AM
Nando. He did a decent job during two of his starts.

capek
03-02-2013, 12:53 AM
Guaranteed Pop starts De Colo.

This. Though I'm starting to think Nando will need a year to be fully "comfortable" being an NBA player. But I think Nando will start, though Pop might bring Manu off the bench a little earlier, and in general do a 'point guard by committee' type approach while Tony is out.

Bill_Brasky
03-02-2013, 12:54 AM
Cojo needs a chance....only true PG

superjames1992
03-02-2013, 12:55 AM
Nando is going to seize the backup job for the playoffs, tbh!!!

AussieFanKurt
03-02-2013, 12:58 AM
Cojo needs a chance....only true PG

Boomersgold
03-02-2013, 01:05 AM
Nando is going to seize the backup job for the playoffs, tbh!!!

Not after the way he's played these last three games. Patty Mills has outplayed him in every one of those games. Even Cojo outplayed De Colo tonight...

TheGoldStandard
03-02-2013, 01:16 AM
Not after the way he's played these last three games. Patty Mills has outplayed him in every one of those games. Even Cojo outplayed De Colo tonight...

It doesn't matter who's outplayed who when Gary Neal is healthy Pop will go to with him.. that's more tragic than the sprained ankle. If only someone can see the master plan that Pop has envisioned with Neal at PG and Bonner on the team.

DrunkTXLabrat
03-02-2013, 01:20 AM
It doesn't matter who's outplayed who when Gary Neal is healthy Pop will go to with him.. that's more tragic than the sprained ankle. If only someone can see the master plan that Pop has envisioned with Neal at PG and Bonner on the team.

:rollin lol

loveforthegame
03-02-2013, 01:23 AM
I'd like to see Joseph get the nod but would be fine with De Colo. So long as its not Neal starting.

HI-FI
03-02-2013, 01:24 AM
Nando should have won the backup PG role outright after the Miami game tbh. He's the least flawed out of him/Neal/Patty/CJ. Pop's really mishandled the backup PG role so far this season. Sure nobody has stepped up and seized it but it's tough when Pop flip flops every game.

I'd prefer Nando to start while TP is out, and he will be out a while IMO.
I never understood why he didn't outright win the position after that game. I know Pop likes to experiment, and I don't blame him, but Nando really could've used the extra time/momentum. Still, it doesn't help that Nando sometimes can't shoot for shit.

I'd prefer Nando to have the spot since he has the best overall court vision, then CoJo, Mills and finally Neal. Neal has more of a heroball problem than TP.

TheGoldStandard
03-02-2013, 01:31 AM
Seriously, I think Bonner has photos of Pop doing something he doesn't want getting out and he shares this with only a few souls on the team, that's the only explanation why they get the minutes they have and why Bonner is still on the team. Gary Neal is Roger Mason Jr. 2.0 except he can occasionally hit a 3 pointer outside of the bubble screen. Its okay though because next year the Spurs will draft another shooting guard and send them down to the D-league and repeat the process over again.

chapnis
03-02-2013, 01:31 AM
I think Mills if Manu is on the floor, otherwise CoJo or Nando. Will be interesting to see how CJ holds up against decent opponents

timtonymanu
03-02-2013, 02:05 AM
De Colo. Obviously. He has that extra motivation when he's put into the starting lineup. Plus his playmaking abilities are needed for someone like Danny Green who thrives off Parker's passing.

Then Manu-Patty off the bench. CoJo for 3rd string PG.

Neal being out also affects everything.

Robz4000
03-02-2013, 02:24 AM
Another idea might be to start Diaw at PG and see how that works. Just keep bringing Blair or Bonner off the bench and sub Splitter and Duncan as necessary so the turd towers aren't on the floor at the same time.

aal04
03-02-2013, 02:31 AM
On a night when all the backups hard a chance to put their hand up, Nando hid at the back and Corey Joseph said hi

TheGoldStandard
03-02-2013, 02:39 AM
On a night when all the backups hard a chance to put their hand up, Nando hid at the back and Corey Joseph said hi

Yes, but Pop was looking at Gary Neal the whole time making googly eyes at him while Bonner filed his taxes.

Sean Cagney
03-02-2013, 03:24 AM
Neal's also an option that Pop can go to.

Thats not a very good option at all at PG.

racm
03-02-2013, 04:09 AM
Neal hasn't really played PG this year.

hooperflash
03-02-2013, 06:57 AM
It'll be Nando.. Cory looked pretty good out there last night, wouldn't be surprised after a few games if Pop gives him the starting nod. Gary Neal might see some good minutes at PG though, Pop's "team chemistry" always seems to include him in that position.

Bambililos
03-02-2013, 08:42 AM
Cory fouled out in 10 minutes last night and made zero assist. Sure he defends alright, but how can he be given real minutes if he plays like that?

I'm pulling for Nando, with Mills as a backup.

dbestpro
03-02-2013, 08:52 AM
Not much of a CoJo fan, but I would prefer he be given the nod to see if he truly has what it takes to play with the big boys. DeColo is an ongoing project that may be better than anyone expects once his shot is fixed. Mills is what he is, but is better than Neal at the point. That leaves CoJo as the unknown and how far his game has come.

Raven
03-02-2013, 09:13 AM
wouldn't make more sense to start manu with cojo and bring nando and green off the bench? outside of tony, manu is our best ballhandler..

elemento
03-02-2013, 09:30 AM
Considering that most people feel SAS backup PG situation is ok because Manu runs the show with the 2nd unit, he should be the one starting when Parker is not there.

I don't want to see unproven players like Nando, Mills or Joseph running the show for 30+ minutes. Let Manu run the show, then choose the best option among Mills/Cojo/Nando to run the 2nd unit for 12-15 minutes.

racm
03-02-2013, 09:39 AM
wouldn't make more sense to start manu with cojo and bring nando and green off the bench? outside of tony, manu is our best ballhandler..

There's a reason Green starts and Manu comes off the bench. The former is a better shooter and the Spurs need floor spacing with the Duncan Splitter frontcourt.

racm
03-02-2013, 09:42 AM
Considering that most people feel SAS backup PG situation is ok because Manu runs the show with the 2nd unit, he should be the one starting when Parker is not there.

I don't want to see unproven players like Nando, Mills or Joseph running the show for 30+ minutes. Let Manu run the show, then choose the best option among Mills/Cojo/Nando to run the 2nd unit for 12-15 minutes.

Didn't Manu start with Green and Leonard once last season? Might be time to revisit that.

Richie
03-02-2013, 10:04 AM
I'd like to see Kawhi have the ball in his hands more initiating the offence, see how he does in limited possessions.

De Colo start at the point sharing possessions with Kawhi and Ginobili running it off the bench.

Strategic
03-02-2013, 10:12 AM
Who fills in at Point Guard while Tony Parker is out, and why?

I think it is dependent on Tony's prognosis;

1. If he's only going to be out for a few games, or day to day :toast, then why disrupt the rotation? Maybe go with Mills or even Joseph, if they don't turn into screw ups by abandoning the offensive schemes.

2. If he's out for a long period, or that amount of time which I will not say, then probably De Colo. This would throw the rotation PG duties back to Manu and Neal.


:flag::flag:

elemento
03-02-2013, 10:19 AM
Didn't Manu start with Green and Leonard once last season? Might be time to revisit that.

Yes he did against the Mavs.

bigdog
03-02-2013, 11:12 AM
Joseph just got out of hand last night with the fouls. Besides that, I think it should be a no-brainer. Cory Joseph should be given a shot at the PG position, and the backup spot when Tony is healthy. He's a complete PG, can score, and might be the best defender on the team. DeColo will be alright, if that's who Pop chooses, but it should definitely NOT be Gary Neal, and Patty can't handle full-time PG duties. He is great off the bench, though. Give it to Cory.

quentin_compson
03-02-2013, 01:16 PM
I think DeColo would be the best option available at this point. Maybe Manu can play more minutes as long as Parker's out and shoulder the playmaking responsibilities whenever he is on the court.

loveforthegame
03-02-2013, 01:20 PM
I think some consistency will be important. Hopefully Pop makes his choice and sticks with it. He can always make adjustments after the start.

I hope he avoids starting De Colo one game, Mills the next, CJ after that, etc...

ace3g
03-02-2013, 01:49 PM
Whether he starts or not during this stretch, CJ needs big minutes so he can eliminate some of those "rookie" calls he is getting. I know that sounds like an excuse but CJs defense wasn't that bad last night to warrant 6 fouls in 10 minutes; refs just need to get use him on the court and how he guards. This shouldn't be the case, but that is just how refs are in the NBA.

callo1
03-02-2013, 01:50 PM
CJ, Nando, Mills, three-toed sloth, Bonner, anyone else (except Neal), Neal

waisman
03-02-2013, 02:15 PM
This is Colos chance .
Play with starter .

Boomersgold
03-02-2013, 02:18 PM
This is Colos chance .
Play with starter .

Going from not being with the team at all and playing in the D-League to being an NBA starter? I just can't see Pop attempting something so risky to the Spurs' advantageous record.

99 Problems
03-02-2013, 03:02 PM
Considering that most people feel SAS backup PG situation is ok because Manu runs the show with the 2nd unit, he should be the one starting when Parker is not there.

I don't want to see unproven players like Nando, Mills or Joseph running the show for 30+ minutes. Let Manu run the show, then choose the best option among Mills/Cojo/Nando to run the 2nd unit for 12-15 minutes.



Wise words indeed.

The second unit can survive w/o Manu, they done it b4.

EVAY
03-02-2013, 03:09 PM
Even though Manu is a shooting guard rather than a point guard, I Pop goes with Manu starting with Green. Then DeColo or Joseph off the bench for the second squad. If we are going to try to maintain some decent positioning for the playoffs, we need Manu's ball handling and passing skills in the first set. He has to be the one. We have no hope against some of the opponents we are going to face with either Neal or Joseph at the starting point.

The issue for me is how long Manu can last without getting hurt again himself if he is in the starting lineup. But he is the best ball handler. He has essentially been playing point guard for the second squad. So he will be playing out of position one way or another.

I hope Pop realizes he has to win games more than play around with his rotations as he has been doing. Play around with the backup point position if you want, but put Manu on the point to start.

No brainer, imo.

EVAY
03-02-2013, 03:10 PM
ooops. d/p

TheSkeptic
03-02-2013, 03:16 PM
Wise words indeed.

The second unit can survive w/o Manu, they done it b4.

BBM: I don't think so in this case because Blair's coming off the bench. If our frontcourt is going to be at a disadvantage on the defensive end and our backcourt isn't going to be much better (Neal, Mills, CoJo, De Colo, etc), then they need either Manu or Splitter playing with the second unit in order to make it work because Blair + Diaw/Bonner won't get it done without some offensive or defensive production.

Anyways, I figure De Colo should be starting if Parker's going to be out. I don't trust Mills at all to run the point and while CoJo's improved, I'd rather go with the surer thing at this point and make subs as needed. Plain and simple.

TheSkeptic
03-02-2013, 03:27 PM
^^ Most likely. He'll probably have the ball in his hands when closing games so I think Pop has more options at his disposal when it comes to choosing his backcourt players.

superbigtime
03-02-2013, 04:39 PM
Cojo as de Colo's backup. Play Neal with Manu when he returns. Pop was playing de Colo with Tony, what the hell was that about.

Strategic
03-02-2013, 05:27 PM
Tony Parker's success this year has been shadowed all season by the often confusing backup point guard, or what appears to be the lacking of. Wait a minute, isn't that the position that Cory Joseph, Patty Mills and Nando de Colo are rostered at? Let the Spurs ride these guys in the point minutes and at the end of the year if they can't get it done, get rid of their asses. Sure, Manu and Neal can fill in in spots, but thinking the team can ride Ginobili for 30 plus minutes a game at PG for the next month, plus change, could only render him damn near if not completely broken for this year's playoff run, which I still consider formidable, and sure as hell more important than this next month. Please, will the real Spurs' fans stand up, and rid the crowd of these "it's time for Timmy and Manu to step up" bunch of teeth chattering pussies. Glad Pop doesn't read this shit. Duncan and Ginobili are tired, old, and doing all they can. Somebody else has to carry the load.

DieHardSpursFan1537
03-02-2013, 05:30 PM
Blair would be a good choice. :pop:

DieHardSpursFan1537
03-02-2013, 05:31 PM
:lol

Proxy
03-02-2013, 05:44 PM
Nando will start. When patty/cojo/neal get 2nd string minutes, expect Manu to hold their hands.

eric365
03-02-2013, 05:49 PM
I feel like De Colo will play better with the starter than with the second unit

SpurPadre
03-02-2013, 05:54 PM
This is a little off topic, but do you guys think we would've gone after Aaron Brooks if we played the Kings on Thursday and TP got hurt then? Or were the Rockets a lock for him? Back to the topic, I'm not sure about starting De Colo. He is so slow and the game might be too fast for him at this stage as a starter. He has his role with the team, for sure, but I'd rather see CoJo get a crack at the spot or even Mills, who has the speed at least.

spurtech09
03-02-2013, 06:04 PM
I know CJ hasn't play that much but I he looked pretty good in the Kings game so I say give him a shot....

spurtech09
03-02-2013, 06:05 PM
would be awesome if TP came back that soon....but will see what happens

benstanfield
03-02-2013, 07:07 PM
Start Manu at SG and Joseph at PG.

Boomersgold
03-02-2013, 09:47 PM
That's because Mills is playing in garbage time.

Nope. Last three games, Mills was given the backup role, and played minutes in all the quarters.

raybies
03-02-2013, 09:53 PM
If spurs are serious about giving cojo a legit shot a back up then they would start him but that's depending on whether or no they feel he's ready after the kings game.

Did they see potential or immaturity? ...foul prone...

raybies
03-02-2013, 09:53 PM
If spurs are serious about giving cojo a legit shot a back up then they would start him but that's depending on whether or no they feel he's ready after the kings game.

Did they see potential or immaturity? ...foul prone...

therealtruth
03-03-2013, 04:12 AM
This feels like 2010 again with TP goes down with an injury and Manu not playing that well. Hopefully Manu can recreate what he did then.

AaronY
03-03-2013, 04:24 AM
Manu needs to play more and take more of the ball handling responsibilities

racm
03-03-2013, 07:34 AM
Manu needs to play more and take more of the ball handling responsibilities

15 assists in 22 minutes. :hat

td4mvp2k
03-03-2013, 10:42 AM
Who fills in at Point Guard while Tony Parker is out, and why?

That will be Neal and how he did it in 11-12

eDizzle20
03-03-2013, 11:01 AM
I love that Cojo will get some playing time. He has great defensive intensity. Even though he picked up 5 quick fouls the other night, Pop will take that over a lax defender that cannot guard the pick and roll.

ace3g
03-03-2013, 12:40 PM
Have to keep our passing efficiency up to par while Parker is out:

San Antonio Spurs (http://sulia.com/channel/san-antonio-spurs)
Art Garcia (http://sulia.com/artgarcia92/)
+ Trust Team Efficiency getting better, Spurs are passing fancy
The Spurs handed out a season-high 41 assists in their last game, led by Manu Ginobili’s career-high 15 dishes. The last time the Silver and Black had 40-or-more assists in a game came on 11/7/90 vs. Denver when San Antonio dished out 42 assists.

Ginobili filled up the box score with a career-high 15 assists, 9 points, 4 rebounds and 3 steals. Ginobili’s 15 dishes were the most by a Spurs player off the bench since John Lucas handed out a Spurs-record 24 assists vs. Denver on 4/15/84.

"He did have a great game as a 2 guard," Spurs coach Gregg Popovich said. "To have 15 assists is pretty impressive. I thought he was great in that regard. He let the game come to him. He played a really solid game."

The Spurs also shot a season-high 60.7 percent (51-84) from the floor in the 130-102 rout of Sacramento. San Antonio fell two points shy of a season high.

TJastal
03-03-2013, 01:05 PM
Hmm looks like I'll be the lone voice for Mills getting the nod. He has shown he can consistently put up points where Nando hasnt. He'll also have Green to help spearhead the faciltating duties. Duncan, Splitter, & Khawi are more than enough to make up any of Patty's defensive lapses. CJ is too inexperienced at this point but I could see him getting his chance next season.

AFBlue
03-03-2013, 04:56 PM
Any announcement yet on who's getting the nod?

hater
03-03-2013, 04:59 PM
give a chance to CJ. IMO he's a guy who is just waiting to break out.

slick'81
03-03-2013, 05:24 PM
Dcolo will start Sunday and should see good min. Atleast until neal arrives

AFBlue
03-03-2013, 05:56 PM
CoJo it!

hater
03-03-2013, 05:59 PM
give a chance to CJ. IMO he's a guy who is just waiting to break out.

:tu :tu :tu

jesterbobman
03-03-2013, 06:04 PM
I voted on Nando in the poll, because that seemed most likely. But I am perfectly happy with Joseph. I wanted him to get the backup PG role at the start of the year, but having him start seems somewhat shocking.

AFBlue
03-03-2013, 06:07 PM
I voted on Nando in the poll, because that seemed most likely. But I am perfectly happy with Joseph. I wanted him to get the backup PG role at the start of the year, but having him start seems somewhat shocking.

Not to me. He knows how to run all the sets, plays good defense, and he doesn't turn the ball over. He's also become a reliable jump shooter when he needs to take the shot.

He may not be as good a passer as De Colo or as good a shooter as Mills, but he's the best all-around of the three.

J_Paco
03-03-2013, 06:35 PM
I gotta go with Mills starting - especially if both Neal and Jackson are out as well - while CoJo and Nando play the back-up 1-2 and Manu plays most of his minutes at the 3 spot. I'm hoping Tony recovers quickly and is ready to roll in April, but his absence is going to force Pop to find a legitimate back-up (hoping it isn't Neal).

GB20
03-03-2013, 06:38 PM
i think with cojo we have a true point guard.
i was right form the beginning

DPG21920
03-03-2013, 06:47 PM
I really don't see any stretch of play by any PG will mean anything on who gets the back up PG spot. De Colo has done quite well in TP's absence before and then been relegated to mop up time when he's back. Hard to tell what Pop is doing with Neal even if they play well.