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HarlemHeat37
03-09-2013, 01:18 AM
They are so terrible, tbh..

If your team has a Black coach, you better have either:

A) The consensus best player in the NBA
B) Elite White assistant coach or 2

lefty
03-09-2013, 01:23 AM
lol playing zone and leaving 3 pt shooters open all night

3 is higher than 2, especially when you have the lead late in the game

Do the math, faggot

HarlemHeat37
03-09-2013, 01:25 AM
He still refuses to play Valenciunas over Aaron Gray with 20 games remaining and the playoffs out of reach:lol..

dave
03-09-2013, 01:29 AM
Worst coach in the league, by far.

DMC
03-09-2013, 01:56 AM
Worst coach in the league, by far.

He didn't sit the 1st overall pick in the 4th and score only 9 points when he was up 25.

InRareForm
03-09-2013, 02:00 AM
Didn't know Doc is white.

EmoKobe
03-09-2013, 02:01 AM
What about doc rivers? :lol apparently the master strategist

DMC
03-09-2013, 02:05 AM
Doc surely didn't get KG, Ray Allen, Paul Pierce and Rondo on the same team. That wasn't talked about much in sports media. Funny they now consider Doc to be a "great" coach, yet his assistant gets CotY and led his team to a better record with only PG. Makes you wonder.

DMC
03-09-2013, 02:06 AM
Nate
Avery
Mike Brown
Doc Rivers
Cheeks
Woodson
Williams
Mark Jackson
Jacques Vaughn
Whomever Toronto's coach is


who else?

HarlemHeat37
03-09-2013, 02:07 AM
Thibodeau ran the Celtics, it's common knowledge..

Boston runs the same scheme post-Thibodeau..

LkrFan
03-09-2013, 02:08 AM
Damn, that Laker win stangs. BNSFs everywhere maaaaaaad. :lol

LkrFan
03-09-2013, 02:08 AM
Yet another knee jerk emo thread. :lol

HarlemHeat37
03-09-2013, 02:10 AM
Nate
Avery
Mike Brown
Doc Rivers
Cheeks
Woodson
Williams
Mark Jackson
Jacques Vaughn
Whomever Toronto's coach is


who else?

Larry Drew
Byron Scott
Lyndsey Hunter
Lionel Hollins
Ty Corbin
Keith Smart

DMC
03-09-2013, 02:10 AM
Besides Rivers, Scott and Woodson, the NBA's other black coaches are Mike Brown (Los Angeles Lakers), Avery Johnson (New Jersey), Dwane Casey (Toronto), Paul Silas (Charlotte), Lionel Hollins (Memphis), Tyrone Corbin (Utah), Larry Drew (Atlanta), Alvin Gentry (Phoenix), Monty Williams (New Orleans), Mark Jackson (Golden State) and Keith Smart (Sacramento). A half-dozen will be coaching in the playoffs starting this weekend.

So only Doc has won a ring as a black head coach?

HarlemHeat37
03-09-2013, 02:11 AM
Damn, that Laker win stangs. BNSFs everywhere maaaaaaad. :lol

I've been saying this for years..

I've predicted the Lakers would make the playoffs all year, tbh:lol..their wins against horrible teams are irrevelant to me, relax..

HarlemHeat37
03-09-2013, 02:12 AM
KC Jones won rings in the 80s with Bird/McHale/Parrish..

Doc Rivers and Jones are the only Black coaches to win in the modern era IIRC..

lefty
03-09-2013, 02:15 AM
Do Phillyb-e-a-n-e-r-s count ?

LkrFan
03-09-2013, 03:16 AM
I've been saying this for years..

I've predicted the Lakers would make the playoffs all year, tbh:lol..their wins against horrible teams are irrevelant to me, relax..
:lol

hater
03-09-2013, 04:01 AM
Pop got shat ontonite and that nigga white

spurraider21
03-09-2013, 04:36 AM
Damn, that Laker win stangs. BNSFs everywhere maaaaaaad. :lol

Kobe going bananas against doormats of the league doesn't really scare anybody tbh. keep having miraculous efforts against non playoff teams, and fall short against every team you might actually face in the playoffs.

epic comebacks against Raptors and Hornets :lol
needing epic comebacks against those teams :lol
2-13 against Top 5 western conference teams :lol

:lmao

LkrFan
03-09-2013, 04:45 AM
Kobe going bananas against doormats of the league doesn't really scare anybody tbh. keep having miraculous efforts against non playoff teams, and fall short against every team you might actually face in the playoffs.

epic comebacks against Raptors and Hornets :lol
needing epic comebacks against those teams :lol
2-13 against Top 5 western conference teams :lol

:lmao
Lakers are undefeated in the 1st round as a #1 seed. Can you say the same about your team? Get your hummingbird as in here and :downspin: det shit for 8 sec:lolnds sphincterraider21. :lol

DMC
03-09-2013, 12:41 PM
Pop got shat ontonite and that nigga white

Your point? Pop has 4 rings.

DeadlyDynasty
03-09-2013, 01:35 PM
Thibodeau ran the Celtics, it's common knowledge..

Boston runs the same scheme post-Thibodeau..

Pretty much...and people forget that in 2007 (the year before the Big 3 and Thibs came together), the great Doc Rivers led the Celtics to a 19-game losing streak.

apalisoc_9
03-09-2013, 01:43 PM
I mean no offense to black people but leading, Inventing, being smart in general is just not in their genes.

jag
03-09-2013, 02:46 PM
I mean no offense to black people but leading, Inventing, being smart in general is just not in their genes.

:lol

Latarian Milton
03-09-2013, 07:48 PM
Lakers are undefeated in the 1st round as a #1 seed. Can you say the same about your team? Get your hummingbird as in here and :downspin: det shit for 8 sec:lolnds sphincterraider21. :lol
there ain't many teams in NBA history that got defeated in the first round by the #8 seed imho.

Grit and Grind
03-09-2013, 07:50 PM
Lionel Hollins is the best Black coach ... That's not saying much

HarlemHeat37
03-09-2013, 07:50 PM
Hollins's offensive creativity is terrible, tbh..

Grit and Grind
03-09-2013, 07:59 PM
Hollins's offensive creativity is terrible, tbh..

Not even sure is Lionel is black I mean his Obama color a wigger ( white nigga ) or nacker ( ****** cracker ) but this guy does have the Playoff wins and doesn't need KG , Pierce in Ray in their end of the primes to win

Samuel Eto'o
03-10-2013, 07:40 PM
bumping for visibility to the sunday afternoon guest rush, tbh

BRHornet45
03-10-2013, 07:45 PM
sons my black side is very annoyed with this. its like back when the Colts played the Bears in the Super Bowl and the media made such a big deal about it being the first time TWO black coaches were playing each other. you would think it was like some sort of science experiment with Zoo animals that finally worked by the way the media obsessed over it. like ... "oh look yall! we got us two black people who can read, write, and talk! they can even coach a football team too!".

very insulting to black people when they do this type of nonsense. just let the best man for the job do the job.

DMC
03-10-2013, 08:01 PM
sons my black side is very annoyed with this. its like back when the Colts played the Bears in the Super Bowl and the media made such a big deal about it being the first time TWO black coaches were playing each other. you would think it was like some sort of science experiment with Zoo animals that finally worked by the way the media obsessed over it. like ... "oh look yall! we got us two black people who can read, write, and talk! they can even coach a football team too!".

very insulting to black people when they do this type of nonsense. just let the best man for the job do the job.

It's not insulting. It should be a wake up call, that it's not is insulting to the human race.

Brazil
03-11-2013, 07:22 AM
I mean no offense to black people but leading, Inventing, being smart in general is just not in their genes.

you mean genres ? right ?

Mal
03-11-2013, 08:10 AM
I believe NFL ended their black coach experiment, in brutal way this year.

DUNCANownsKOBE
03-11-2013, 11:17 AM
Nate
Avery
Mike Brown
Doc Rivers
Cheeks
Woodson
Williams
Mark Jackson
Jacques Vaughn
Whomever Toronto's coach is


who else?
Alvan gentry is the cream of the black coaching crop imo

DUNCANownsKOBE
03-11-2013, 11:25 AM
Pretty much...and people forget that in 2007 (the year before the Big 3 and Thibs came together), the great Doc Rivers led the Celtics to a 19-game losing streak.
Yeah prior to the kg trade and having a player who'd bark at any teammate who didn't listen to the coach, doc was on the hot seat like no other coach in 2007 and regularly drew criticism from bill Simmons about how bad of a coach he is. Even in 2008 before they won it all Simmons would constantly talk about how they win in spite of rivers not because of him.

Chinook
03-11-2013, 11:48 AM
sons my black side is very annoyed with this. its like back when the Colts played the Bears in the Super Bowl and the media made such a big deal about it being the first time TWO black coaches were playing each other. you would think it was like some sort of science experiment with Zoo animals that finally worked by the way the media obsessed over it. like ... "oh look yall! we got us two black people who can read, write, and talk! they can even coach a football team too!".

very insulting to black people when they do this type of nonsense. just let the best man for the job do the job.

Pretty much. I remember Warren Moon being insulted when asked how it felt to be the first black quarterback elected to the Hall of Fame. He said he didn't want to be thought of as a black quarterback, because it made it seem like he was in a different class than the others.

Chinook
03-11-2013, 11:51 AM
Yeah prior to the kg trade and having a player who'd bark at any teammate who didn't listen to the coach, doc was on the hot seat like no other coach in 2007 and regularly drew criticism from bill Simmons about how bad of a coach he is. Even in 2008 before they won it all Simmons would constantly talk about how they win in spite of rivers not because of him.

To be fair, that doesn't make someone a bad coach. All the way up to the Super Bowl, people were talking about how John Harbaugh was being taken to the championship by his veterans. Sure, he had the whole prevented-mutiny thing going for him, but each game of the playoffs, people were giving the Ravens' opponents the coaching advantage.

HarlemHeat37
03-11-2013, 11:55 AM
I don't remember anybody criticizing Harbaugh to that extent, tbh..that sounds like a forced storyline..

DUNCANownsKOBE
03-11-2013, 12:33 PM
I don't remember anybody criticizing Harbaugh to that extent, tbh..that sounds like a forced storyline..
:lol I had the same reaction to that fictional story. I don't remember anyone saying they were winning in spite of harbaugh or that kubiak had a coaching advantage.

DMC
03-11-2013, 02:22 PM
Alvan gentry is the cream of the black coaching crop imo

I cannot look at him without thinking he's barely keeping his eyes open. I keep thinking "Stymie".

Thread
03-11-2013, 02:27 PM
I cannot look at him without thinking he's barely keeping his eyes open. I keep thinking "Stymie".

He wasn't the Phoenix Suns breed. He was different. His actions toward Kobe in that series where Artest put it back were true class of superlative degree.

This Albert they got as an announcer is likewise against the grain. He won't be invited back.

DeadlyDynasty
03-11-2013, 02:47 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEQB-C8bY8M

lefty
03-11-2013, 02:55 PM
So yesterday vs the Cavs, Raptors were up 3 in the closing moments and they fouled to send the Cavs to send them to the FT line instead of giving up a 3, and won the game

But they didnt do that vs the Lakers and let Kobe tie the game with a 3



:lol Casey
:lol black coaches

jeebus
03-11-2013, 02:59 PM
Yeah prior to the kg trade and having a player who'd bark at any teammate who didn't listen to the coach, doc was on the hot seat like no other coach in 2007 and regularly drew criticism from bill Simmons about how bad of a coach he is. Even in 2008 before they won it all Simmons would constantly talk about how they win in spite of rivers not because of him.
lol I remember this. And then when Boston got all those stars and firepower and won games, Doc suddenly became a :cry great fuckin coach :cry. wtf? of course, it was nigh impossible to tell anyone that without being labeled as a "hater" and "just jealous". And now Doc is being considered to coach the olympics :lmao

Chinook
03-11-2013, 07:20 PM
I don't remember anybody criticizing Harbaugh to that extent, tbh..that sounds like a forced storyline..


:lol I had the same reaction to that fictional story. I don't remember anyone saying they were winning in spite of harbaugh or that kubiak had a coaching advantage.

https://www.google.com/search?q=%22John+Harbaugh%22+-jim+outcoached&aq=f&oq=%22John+Harbaugh%22+-jim+outcoached&aqs=chrome.0.57.21168&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#hl=en&safe=off&sclient=psy-ab&q=%22John+Harbaugh%22+-jim+outcoached&oq=%22John+Harbaugh%22+-jim+outcoached&gs_l=serp.12...152932.154193.0.155480.2.2.0.0.0.0. 60.105.2.2.0.les%3B..0.0...1c.1.5.psy-ab.LHxjJWdSFuI&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_qf.&bvm=bv.43287494,d.dmQ&fp=d672e554d7535006&biw=1138&bih=535

That's a link to a search covering what I was talking about. There has been a general stigma (especially among Ravens media) that Harbaugh had a talented team that took him to the playoffs as much as he took them. There was even talk as recently as last year about how much better of a coach Jason Garret was. If I find more-concrete articles, I'll link them. But this was not a forced storyline.

HarlemHeat37
03-11-2013, 09:46 PM
All I see there are links that discuss Harbaugh outcoaching opposing coaches..do I have to click them to read the arguments that Harbaugh is a shitty coach that was carried by his team?..

Chinook
03-11-2013, 09:56 PM
No. You should just scroll down. If you did read the top links, everyone is surprised as hell that Harbaugh managed to outcoach their team, like a man that had been to four consecutive playoffs (at the time) was not supposed to be able to outsmart their team.

DAF86
03-11-2013, 10:02 PM
Brooks may not be black but his system does seem pretty non-existent when Durant and Westbrook aren't on the court, OKC's system pretty much consists of those two making plays out of nothing. When they both sat for a while at the start of the 4th the lack of a true system got exposed and that's where the game got out of reach. No wonder he rides them so hard.

HarlemHeat37
03-11-2013, 10:05 PM
Brooks may not be black but his system does seem pretty non-existent when Durant and Westbrook aren't on the court, OKC's system pretty much consists of those two making plays out of nothing. When they both sat for a while at the start of the 4th the lack of a true system got exposed and that's where the game got out of reach. No wonder he rides them so hard.

Many non-Black coaches are shitty, too, obviously..it's a similar argument to White QB vs. Black QB(I know that's an argument that is close to your heart:lol)..

DAF86
03-11-2013, 10:08 PM
Many non-Black coaches are shitty, too, obviously..it's a similar argument to White QB vs. Black QB(I know that's an argument that is close to your heart:lol)..

I'm not trying to defend black coaches or anything I just wanted to point out the lack of offensive system that OKC has, tbh. :lol

HarlemHeat37
03-11-2013, 10:09 PM
Agreed, but part of it is due to Durant's lack of testosterone, tbh..

HarlemHeat37
03-18-2013, 10:28 PM
:lol Doc Rivers showing why he's an average/below average coach that would still be an announcer if Thibodeau hadn't saved his coaching career, tbh..

Kulo
03-18-2013, 11:49 PM
:lol Doc Rivers showing why he's an average/below average coach that would still be an announcer if Thibodeau hadn't saved his coaching career, tbh..
The one thing he is good at, 90% of Black people are good at anyway. He is good at controlling egos but that's about it, hell even his bad rotation habits have sagged off on Thibodeau.

spurraider21
03-18-2013, 11:53 PM
The one thing he is good at, 90% of Black people are good at anyway. He is good at controlling egos but that's about it, hell even his bad rotation habits have sagged off on Thibodeau.

Thibodeau rotations? What rotations. He pretty much plays his starters 48 minutes

ElNono
03-18-2013, 11:58 PM
We have a good one here between Knicks and Utah, tbh... who will outcoach the other?

HarlemHeat37
03-19-2013, 12:00 AM
Thibodeau still has a lot to learn, particularly managing rotations, but he runs a great scheme that brought success to both the Celtics and Bulls, tbh..

spurraider21
03-19-2013, 12:03 AM
We have a good one here between Knicks and Utah, tbh... who will outcoach the other?

Utah's offense is terrible to watch. Stand around and as the shot clock dwindles, let your big man take a contested jumper.
:lol Corbin

ElNono
03-19-2013, 12:06 AM
yeah, looks like friendkiller will deliver the win to the Knicks

Thread
03-19-2013, 12:22 AM
^Stand by, I'll need you Friday nite.

Danka.

ElNono
03-19-2013, 12:27 AM
I think Tony might be back by then. Just make sure you don't lose the season series against the Wizards, tbh

Thread
03-19-2013, 12:30 AM
I think Tony might be back by then. Just make sure you don't lose the season series against the Wizards, tbh

Yer going first, so act like somebody.

ElNono
03-19-2013, 12:34 AM
Yer going first, so act like somebody.

You're the one crawling for favors...

Thread
03-19-2013, 12:36 AM
...God willing you'll be sitting with me and 27 others come June.

ElNono
03-19-2013, 12:38 AM
...God willing you'll be sitting with me and 27 others come June.

But tonight you savor the Suns shit-sandwich.

AussieFanKurt
03-19-2013, 01:04 AM
If that last play was one drawn up by Doc, he is even more overrated than I thought

lefty
03-19-2013, 01:07 AM
KC Jones drew much better inboud plays

DUNCANownsKOBE
03-19-2013, 01:19 AM
Utah's offense is terrible to watch. Stand around and as the shot clock dwindles, let your big man take a contested jumper.
:lol Corbin
Cosigned. I don't watch Utah at all and from what I saw tonight I'm not missing much. Their offense is disgusting to watch.

lefty
03-19-2013, 01:23 AM
How the fuck did the Spurs lose to Utah earlier this seasonj

AussieFanKurt
03-19-2013, 01:33 AM
How the fuck did the Spurs lose to Utah earlier this seasonj

fluke 3

lefty
03-19-2013, 01:45 AM
fluke 3
Even so

It shouldnt have been that close to begin with

racm
03-19-2013, 01:46 AM
How the fuck did the Spurs lose to Utah earlier this seasonj

Mo Williams hit a 3 over Danny Green despite Duncan having a 20/20 game.

To be fair Kawhi Leonard didn't play.

AussieFanKurt
03-19-2013, 02:35 AM
Even so

It shouldnt have been that close to begin with

http://data.whicdn.com/images/26351083/Alz6HAYCQAA46Cc_thumb.jpg_large?

HarlemHeat37
03-30-2013, 11:33 PM
:lmao black coaches, tbh..

jag
03-30-2013, 11:50 PM
you would think it was like some sort of science experiment with Zoo animals that finally worked by the way the media obsessed over it.

:lol

DMC
03-31-2013, 10:10 AM
How the fuck did the Spurs lose to Utah earlier this seasonj

The Spurs aren't that good

HarlemHeat37
04-05-2013, 11:53 PM
Smh, tbh..

The Batman
04-06-2013, 12:26 AM
http://rontrarianreport.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/KeithSmart2.gif

HarlemHeat37
04-13-2013, 12:05 AM
:lol keep running plays for Klay Thompson instead of Curry, Mark Jackson..

irishock
04-13-2013, 12:11 AM
Ken Berger ‏@KBergCBS (https://twitter.com/KBergCBS)2m (https://twitter.com/KBergCBS/status/322939273504514048)
The Lakers maintain control of their playoff fate, but to what end? Kobe Bryant's future in serious jeopardy with a left leg injury.

DMC
04-13-2013, 12:14 AM
Oh shit, out for an undetermined amount of time.

I don't know what's worse, the fact that the NBA keeps trying to resurrect the Lakers or the fact that NBA fans still get butt hurt by the Lakers even getting to the playoffs.

Every team in the NBA makes money from the Lakers. So unless you want your team sucking cock like the Bucks for the next thousand years, you better hope the heavy hitters like the Lakers continue to produce, because when they lose their crowd, you lose yours.

Clipper Nation
04-13-2013, 12:15 AM
Oh shit, out for an undetermined amount of time.

Translation: he'll be back next game and was just faking...

MarioSpeedwagon
04-13-2013, 04:49 AM
Still all better than D'Antoni

LOL Lakers

HarlemHeat37
05-03-2013, 12:17 AM
Regardless of the outcome, wow, Mark Jackson was horrible tonight..

Wasting your final timeout with nothing to show for it:lol..

DAF86
05-08-2013, 12:09 AM
Hollins isn't all that bad, imho. Grizzlies have a good system on defense and offense and the players stick to it, tbh.

ElNono
05-19-2013, 06:07 PM
any updates on this?

Floyd Pacquiao
05-19-2013, 06:16 PM
Lets see if this nigga can make adjustments for game 2 tbh

Arnold Toht
05-19-2013, 06:19 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z43QL_fhclY&bpctr=1369007279

HarlemHeat37
05-19-2013, 06:19 PM
Hollins is a horrible offensive coach, tbh..he's Mike Brown 2.0..

The obvious adjustment is to remove either Prince or Allen from the starting lineup, we'll see if he makes it..

DAF86
05-20-2013, 09:22 AM
Hollins is a horrible offensive coach, tbh..he's Mike Brown 2.0..

The obvious adjustment is to remove either Prince or Allen from the starting lineup, we'll see if he makes it..

I don't see that, tbh. Brown's offense (same as Brooks' which, imo, is by far the worst offensive coach on the league) was basically give the ball to your star and hope for the best many times without even getting into an offensive set. With Memphis you can see pretty clearly that on every trip to the offensive end they try to run a play, it may work or not but they have a gameplan and the players stick to it, it's not Hollins' fault that so many of his players are below average offensive players.

jag
05-21-2013, 11:16 PM
Lionel Hollins should be working at a carwash somewhere in Memphis...not coaching the Grizzlies.

ElNono
05-21-2013, 11:21 PM
:lol using up your two timeouts back to back
:lol being in the bonus for like 3 mins in OT and still chucking up shots

HarlemHeat37
05-21-2013, 11:45 PM
Hollins is a horrible offensive coach, tbh..he's Mike Brown 2.0..

The obvious adjustment is to remove either Prince or Allen from the starting lineup, we'll see if he makes it..

:lol finally goes with Pondexter over Prince and they make a run..

The most obvious adjustment he should have made immediately, tbh..

ElNono
05-26-2013, 02:05 AM
What now Lionel? :lol

Splits
05-26-2013, 02:06 AM
MEMPHIS, Tenn. -- The Memphis Grizzlies (http://www.cbssports.com/nba/teams/page/MEM/memphis-grizzlies) had a chance to win this game and get back in this series, and given what's happening in the East -- given how vulnerable the Miami Heat (http://www.cbssports.com/nba/teams/page/MIA/miami-heat) suddenly appear to be -- that means the Grizzlies had a chance to remain a serious contender for an NBA championship.

But to do all of that they needed to dial up a great play on the final possession of regulation to win Game 3 of the Western Conference finals -- and there's a problem with that:

The Grizzlies don't have plays they can dial up. Not great plays. Not good plays. Not any plays. The Grizzles give the ball to their point guard -- either Mike Conley (http://www.cbssports.com/nba/players/playerpage/1231861/mike-conley) or Jerryd Bayless (http://www.cbssports.com/nba/players/playerpage/1622494/jerryd-bayless) or even Keyon Dooling (http://www.cbssports.com/nba/players/playerpage/196318/keyon-dooling), if coach Lionel Hollins is in one of his moods -- and hope he can make something happen.

Conley is so good that he often does make something happen. Bayless, too, on occasion. Dooling? No. Not him. Not ever. But anyway, that's the Memphis offense: Give the ball to the point guard. Send center Marc Gasol (http://www.cbssports.com/nba/players/playerpage/1231870/marc-gasol) to the top of the key for the pick-and-roll. See what happens next.

Let's be clear about something: That's not a "play" -- that's a "wish" -- though I'm not sure Hollins or Conley know the difference. More on that in a minute.

For now, keep in mind that the score was tied in the final 20 seconds of regulation and the Grizzles were down 2-0 to the San Antonio Spurs (http://www.cbssports.com/nba/teams/page/SA/san-antonio-spurs). Needing a bucket to avoid overtime and win this game and get back into the series, Hollins called timeout and didn't call a play. He made a wish.

It failed spectacularly, the game went to overtime and the Spurs pulled away to win 104-93 and take a 3-0 lead in the Western Conference finals.

The second question to Hollins in his postgame press conference was about the wish at the end of regulation. He gave the ball to Conley, who was having a bad game. He called for a pick-and-roll with Gasol, who was having a bad game. Hollins put the most important play of the Grizzlies' season into the hands of two very good players having two very bad games -- and what do you know? The Grizzles got a very bad shot.

Conley tried to win it with a running hunk of crap off the glass that didn't even hit the rim. And so the question for Hollins was this:
Was that the shot you wanted?

"No," Hollins said, then stretched the truth like taffy. "I tried to get him to the basket ..."

Conley was going with the same fiction, saying that Hollins "drew up a play to try to get into the paint, let me make a play."
See, that's an interesting choice of words.

Drew up a play ...

Hollins doesn't draw up plays. The pick-and-roll requires no 'X's and only one 'O' -- the one in the word "roll." Occasionally he has a grease board in his hands, but that thing must be for show. Not like he's drawing anything on it. Hollins called timeout with 19 seconds left in regulation, and while I wasn't in the Grizzlies' huddle, I imagine he used the grease board to scribble three words:

Pick and roll.

Maybe he drew a smiley face, too. Hollins is a genuinely nice guy.
That stuff worked in the Western Conference semifinals against Oklahoma City because the Thunder have a similar coach to Hollins. Oklahoma City's Scott Brooks is a players' coach, which is to say, he's not an X-and-O coach. His team wins for the same reason the Grizzlies win -- because the players like the coach, and they play hard for him on both ends, and in the NBA that's enough to win more games than you lose. So when the games were close in that series and Hollins was writing the words "pick and roll" on his grease board, that was enough for the Grizzles to win. Somebody had to win, right? Without a great coach on either sideline, it came down to the players. Seeing how the Thunder were going without Russell Westbrook (http://www.cbssports.com/nba/players/playerpage/1622555/russell-westbrook), the Grizzles had more good players. They won to advance to the Western Conference finals.

But here's the thing: The Spurs are not the Thunder. Not even close. There are a lot of reasons, one named Tim Duncan (http://www.cbssports.com/nba/players/playerpage/6552/tim-duncan) and another named Tony Parker (http://www.cbssports.com/nba/players/playerpage/240304/tony-parker) and another namedManu Ginobili (http://www.cbssports.com/nba/players/playerpage/139066/manu-ginobili). But another reason San Antonio is not Oklahoma City is because Gregg Popovich is not Scott Brooks.

So when the game is on the line and Hollins is going over his smorgasbord of offensive options -- Let's see, do I dial up a pick-and-roll or a pick-and-roll or, what the hell, a pick-and-roll? -- Popovich is in the other huddle grinning, or whatever passes for a grin with that sardonic SOB. He knows what's coming. So do his players. Since the Grizzlies don't have a player so good that he can make a great play when the other side knows exactly what's coming, they end up with a Mike Conley (http://www.cbssports.com/nba/players/playerpage/1231861/mike-conley) hunk of crap off the glass.

They end up in overtime, getting run off the court, their crowd getting the hell out of the FedEx Forum with a minute left and the team trailing by seven because let's be honest: Memphis isn't rallying from a seven-point hole in the final minute with the pick-and-roll. That's like Oklahoma, back in the day when it ran the wishbone, rallying from a three-touchdown deficit in the fourth quarter. Just not going to happen, not then or now. Certainly not against a team as intelligent as the Spurs.

In the locker room after the game, though, the Grizzlies were lamenting their defense -- as if that's what lost this game. Kind of cute, really. The Grizzlies held the Spurs to 40 points in the first half, and 86 points in regulation, and they think they lost because of defense? Wrong. They lost because they couldn't muster a measly 87 points in regulation. Not on a night when Conley and Gasol were going a combined 15-for-39 with seven turnovers. Not when Zach Randolph (http://www.cbssports.com/nba/players/playerpage/240306/zach-randolph) was dominating the offensive boards and using all of those opportunities to go 5-for-14 from the floor and 4-for-8 from the line.

But the Grizzlies see themselves as a defensive team, which means they don't blame their offense for losses even when their offense is to blame for losses. And so Marc Gasol (http://www.cbssports.com/nba/players/playerpage/1231870/marc-gasol)said the Grizzlies lost because Tony Parker (http://www.cbssports.com/nba/players/playerpage/240304/tony-parker) was wreaking havoc on offense. And Tony Allen (http://www.cbssports.com/nba/players/playerpage/498270/tony-allen) concurred: "Tony Parker (http://www.cbssports.com/nba/players/playerpage/240304/tony-parker) was picking us apart."

Parker was 11 of 22 from the floor. He had five assists and seven turnovers. That's not a great offensive game. Not even a very good one.
Defense didn't lose this game for the Grizzlies. Offense did.

Hollins has two days to try to dial up some more offense, but don't count on much in the way of adjustments. Maybe he'll write the words "pick and roll" in another color. Maybe red. Maybe blue.

Maybe black.

lefty
05-26-2013, 02:10 AM
:lol Hollins

:lol thats the matchup he wanted

:lol right

HarlemHeat37
05-26-2013, 02:26 AM
Hollins is getting criticized for the same shit Doc Rivers has been doing his entire career, tbh..

The difference is one of them had Tom Thibodeau as the assistant running their system..

Mal
05-26-2013, 05:40 AM
Hollins is getting criticized for the same shit Doc Rivers has been doing his entire career, tbh..

The difference is one of them had Tom Thibodeau as the assistant running their system..

The truth revealed itself.

DMC
05-26-2013, 01:36 PM
Hollins has a gimpy fucking hand that gives me the creeps.

ElNono
05-27-2013, 11:56 PM
:lol

HarlemHeat37
05-27-2013, 11:57 PM
:lol Black coaches physically abusing their players now, tbh..

jag
05-28-2013, 12:32 AM
Scott Brooks is your typical black coach, tbh...

ElNono
05-28-2013, 12:35 AM
:lol Black coaches physically abusing their players now, tbh..

http://www-thescore.s3.amazonaws.com/images/123767/original.gif?1369713102

jag
05-28-2013, 12:39 AM
Lionel knows he can get away with doing Bayless like that because that nigga lightskinned. He wouldn't try that act on a darkskinned nigga like Tony Allen because he'd get his old ass slapped in front of all those cameras.

BobaFett1
05-28-2013, 02:10 AM
I would smack shit out of those bitches.

ElNono
06-23-2013, 09:15 PM
:lol Clippers

King Nupe
06-23-2013, 09:28 PM
Doc surely didn't get KG, Ray Allen, Paul Pierce and Rondo on the same team. That wasn't talked about much in sports media. Funny they now consider Doc to be a "great" coach, yet his assistant gets CotY and led his team to a better record with only PG. Makes you wonder.


But he still has a championship tbh....

HarlemHeat37
10-29-2013, 08:30 PM
Andrew Nicholson scores 18 points in the 1st half, but doesn't play even 1 second in the 3rd quarter, tbh:lol..

ElNono
10-30-2013, 12:12 AM
D:lolc

lefty
10-30-2013, 12:13 AM
No Thibs :lol

Floyd Pacquiao
11-25-2013, 03:58 PM
:rollin


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_QnywWzeKY&feature=youtube_gdata_player

lefty
11-25-2013, 04:04 PM
:lmao

Malik Hairston
04-21-2014, 04:00 PM
Mike Woodson and Tyrone Corbin fired, tbh..good for the Knicks and Jazz..

Sybok
04-21-2014, 04:02 PM
Meanwhite... Rick Adelman retires on his own terms and old as fuck Phil Jackson slave whips the entire coaching staff out of NY.

Malik Hairston
04-21-2014, 04:07 PM
Atlanta Hawks fans in love with Coach Bud's system and discussing his scheme's superiority over Mike Woodson's lack of a system:

http://hawksquawk.net/community/topic/392603-i-am-sold-on-coach-bud/

These poor souls don't realize the reason Bud has been successful with much less talent than Woodson, tbh..they don't get it, or they're afraid to say it:lol..

Malik Hairston
04-21-2014, 04:11 PM
The Black coaching system is usually successful in season 1, tbh..

It's usually a Black coach replacing a previous coach once the fired coach's players tuned him out and quit on him..the new, Black coach utilizes his preaching and motivation to get his players to play harder and use their talent, turning around their season, possibly making a run to the playoffs..

Once they fail, which is inevitable, that coach's lack of schemes and system is exposed in the next few seasons, and the fans begin to notice that his only coaching strength is his preaching and knowledge of African philosophy, tbh, which can only take you so far..

Mike Woodson is the best example of this..sadly, Woodson will continue to get NBA jobs, because his perpetual look of anger exudes the appearance of a hard-ass that players will want to play hard for:lol..

IrisHockey
04-21-2014, 04:18 PM
:lmao great anaylsis, per par, tbh..

Sybok
04-21-2014, 04:22 PM
Or in the timeless words of the legendary coach McHale, make the ball pop... make it pop.

freetiago
04-21-2014, 04:57 PM
The Black coaching system is usually successful in season 1, tbh..

It's usually a Black coach replacing a previous coach once the fired coach's players tuned him out and quit on him..the new, Black coach utilizes his preaching and motivation to get his players to play harder and use their talent, turning around their season, possibly making a run to the playoffs..

Once they fail, which is inevitable, that coach's lack of schemes and system is exposed in the next few seasons, and the fans begin to notice that his only coaching strength is his preaching and knowledge of African philosophy, tbh, which can only take you so far..

Mike Woodson is the best example of this..sadly, Woodson will continue to get NBA jobs, because his perpetual look of anger exudes the appearance of a hard-ass that players will want to play hard for:lol..

Mark Jackson is a better example tbh
gives Jesus credit for all the wins

spurraider21
04-21-2014, 05:05 PM
knowledge of African philosophy
:lmao god damn

lefty
05-04-2014, 02:55 PM
That final play :lmao

Floyd Pacquiao
05-12-2014, 02:40 PM
:lmao Mike Brown just got fired again.

jeebus
05-12-2014, 02:40 PM
:lmao Mike Brown just got fired again.
I'm sure he'll be back.....


....doing color commentator for the Spurm games

Floyd Pacquiao
05-12-2014, 02:47 PM
I'm sure he'll be back.....


....doing color commentator for the Spurm games
Or he could come back and be an assistant for us, aka pop's personal errand boy.

Budkin
05-12-2014, 02:47 PM
He's still better than Boylen. Swap him in.

jeebus
05-12-2014, 02:50 PM
Or he could come back and be an assistant for us, aka pop's personal errand boy.
If Boylen heads to the J:lolzz, then Pop could bring him in to be Marks and Ime's bitch.

jeebus
05-12-2014, 02:51 PM
And :lmao that the Cavs fired Brown to try and keep Lebeta then fired him again this year to lure Lebeta back.

Raven
05-12-2014, 02:55 PM
why did they do that, it's not his fault everyone was overrating kyrie irving.

Malice
05-12-2014, 02:55 PM
WTF is Cleveland doing? lol at that franchise and their ownership....getting fired not once, but twice by the same team. :lol

StrengthAndHonor
05-12-2014, 02:56 PM
It's great move. No way that team should miss the playoffs...in the East.

Clipper Nation
05-12-2014, 03:06 PM
It's great move. No way that team should miss the playoffs...in the East.

Firing Mike Br:lolwn is always a good call, but that team was trash, tbh.... Kyrie is one of the most overrated players in the NBA and the rest of the roster was full of draft busts - they also all hated each other and had zero chemistry.... even in the shitty East, that team wasn't playoff material :lol

StrengthAndHonor
05-12-2014, 03:14 PM
Firing Mike Br:lolwn is always a good call, but that team was trash, tbh.... Kyrie is one of the most overrated players in the NBA and the rest of the roster was full of draft busts - they also all hated each other and had zero chemistry.... even in the shitty East, that team wasn't playoff material :lol
Nah, they sure were Playoff material in the East. They had a 9 win improvement and missed the playoffs by just 5-6 games. That's really attainable with a better coach.

No one respected Mike, no one believed in him and his system. The younger players could use a better direction.

.G.
05-12-2014, 03:17 PM
Damn, dey did dat nigga wrowng.

ElNono
05-12-2014, 03:19 PM
When Gilbert re-hired Brown a year ago, he said, "When you get the benefit of hindsight, it was a mistake. We're very happy that we get to rectify any position we took back then by Mike being available right now."

Brown has been fired twice in two seasons. The Lakers fired him after the first five games of 2012-13.

Why not just let his retarded son coach the team, tbh? they're a joke anyways :lol

jeebus
05-12-2014, 03:25 PM
Why not just let his retarded son coach the team, tbh? they're a joke anyways :lol ElNono with the logical goods. If the tard could help them get multiple #1 picks in the lottery, chances are he can potato his way through to the 1st round of the playoffs.

Mugen
05-12-2014, 03:52 PM
Props to Mike "Potato Head" Brown tbh. He will be making more than this entire board combined over the next couple of years for being absolutely terrible at his job.

Mugen
05-12-2014, 03:54 PM
When Gilbert re-hired Brown a year ago, he said, "When you get the benefit of hindsight, it was a mistake. We're very happy that we get to rectify any position we took back then by Mike being available right now."

Brown has been fired twice in two seasons. The Lakers fired him after the first five games of 2012-13.

Why not just let his retarded son coach the team, tbh? they're a joke anyways :lol

:lol Nono w/ the rare non-classy goods tbh

http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/615148/300740781.png

DMC
05-12-2014, 05:22 PM
http://www-thescore.s3.amazonaws.com/images/123767/original.gif?1369713102

He didn't want his gimpy ass hand being molested.

DMC
05-12-2014, 05:23 PM
Props to Mike "Potato Head" Brown tbh. He will be making more than this entire board combined over the next couple of years for being absolutely terrible at his job.

So more than a couple hundred K?

Mugen
05-12-2014, 05:24 PM
Yes.

spurraider21
05-12-2014, 07:12 PM
honestly any team in the east outside of blatant tank teams like the Bucks and Sixers should fire their coaches for missing the playoffs in a year like this

Malik Hairston
05-16-2014, 12:37 AM
Ubuntu..

ElNono
05-16-2014, 12:38 AM
wasn't great, but I thought he did ok... at some point the players need to take some responsibility, tbh

DD
05-16-2014, 12:54 AM
What does FuzzyLumpkins think?

DD
05-16-2014, 12:56 AM
Only 2 BHC's won a playoff series this year--but they came against 2 other BHC's:lmao

JohnnyMax
05-16-2014, 01:00 AM
Doc Rivers runs a better offense than Scott Brooks and Vinny Del Negro.

sook
05-16-2014, 01:18 AM
damn, none left now. I'd rather have a BC than Mchale though.

Mugen
05-16-2014, 01:20 AM
Only 2 BHC's won a playoff series this year--but they came against 2 other BHC's:lmao

:lol


damn, none left now. I'd rather have a BC than Mchale though.

:lol McHale is the blackest coach in the league tbh

sook
05-16-2014, 01:22 AM
:lol



:lol McHale is the blackest coach in the league tbh
Damn. Fooled us all along too :lol

The Batman
05-16-2014, 06:55 AM
:lol



:lol McHale is the blackest coach in the league tbh

My nigga Mugen.

Malik Hairston
10-29-2014, 09:38 PM
:lmao Lionel Hollins..

lefty
01-14-2015, 12:50 AM
Bump

:lmao Corbin

lefty
04-21-2015, 09:57 PM
Bump

Casey :rollin

Clipper Nation
04-21-2015, 10:20 PM
:lol Casey's "coaching" literally reducing his players to tears at how bad it is

http://i.imgur.com/2sDi7qL.png

Arcadian
04-21-2015, 10:29 PM
What did Casey do that was so bad in this series? I haven't been watching, so I wouldn't know.

lefty
04-21-2015, 10:33 PM
What did Casey do that was so bad in this series? I haven't been watching, so I wouldn't know.
He didn't do anything

That's the problem

Clipper Nation
04-21-2015, 10:34 PM
What did Casey do that was so bad in this series? I haven't been watching, so I wouldn't know.

The most egregious fuck-up is probably how Casey refuses to play James Johnson - who the front office brought in specifically to guard wings like Pierce in the playoffs - at all in the entire series. Plus, like he's done the entire time in Toronto, he enables the Three Stooges (Lowry, DeTard, Lou Williams) to chuck to their heart's content while treating the bigs like shit. Finally, he's supposed to be a defensive coach, but their perimeter defense has been atrocious all season.

resistanze
04-21-2015, 10:42 PM
The most egregious fuck-up is probably how Casey refuses to play James Johnson - who the front office brought in specifically to guard wings like Pierce in the playoffs - at all in the entire series. Plus, like he's done the entire time in Toronto, he enables the Three Stooges (Lowry, DeTard, Lou Williams) to chuck to their heart's content while treating the bigs like shit. Finally, he's supposed to be a defensive coach, but their perimeter defense has been atrocious all season.

One of the worst defenses in the league. No offensive system (Atlantic division ISO ball doesn't work in the playoffs). Terrible rotations. No development of big men. I could go on....lol people wanting Wizards :lol

Splits
04-23-2015, 11:49 PM
:lmao Monty Williams

That was fucking horrrrrible

ambchang
04-24-2015, 10:55 AM
Casey is just terrible. Still playing ISO ball offense, and focusing on low efficiency chuckers like DeRozan to boot.

Lowry can be coached into a floor general, and can actually do damage in the post, but he has to be coached for that.
DeRozan is best used as a defensive wing, if he refuse, ship him out for some picks
Lou Williams is horrible and does nothing but jack
Valasciunas did not improve one bit the last few years. His defense is still robotic, he still can't handle double teams, his passing is still horrendous, his moves are robotic, predictable and can easily be countered.
Amir Johnson, Patrick Patterson, James Johnson, Psycho T, and Terrence Ross can all be used to space the floor but weren't
Amir Johnson, Patrick Patterson and James Johnson can all be used effectively in a defensive system, but there is no system to speak of.

Get a coach like Kidd, SVG or JVG in and the Raptors can make the 2nd round, or even the ECF in the awful East.

spursistan
01-09-2017, 11:07 PM
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apalisoc_9
01-09-2017, 11:34 PM
818594430869446656

:lol

UZER
01-10-2017, 12:40 AM
818594430869446656

Alvin Gentry also said in his opinion, he has the most efficient opinions in the league.