2013 Free Agent: Manu Ginobili

[Bruno]

http://www.nba.com/media/act_emanuel_ginobili.jpg
Born: Jul 28, 1977
Height: 6-6 / 1.98
Weight: 205 lbs. / 93.0 kg.
Prior to NBA / Country: Kinder Bologna / Argentina

Info (http://www.nba.com/playerfile/emanuel_ginobili/career_stats.html)

[td4mvp2k]

What $ does Manu get?

[jesterbobman]

I'd say all we know so far is:
a) He'll resign here
b) It'll be for less than his current deal.

How much he'll get paid will likely depend on performance in playoffs, and whether any trade scenarios/free agents are available that mean Manu will take less.

[Bruno]

Only 3 players (Garnett, Duncan and Nash) are older than Ginobili and paid more than $5M. All 3 are former MVPs.

[pad300]

One other thing to note - there is a rule about giving long contracts to older players: The over 36 Rule ( http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q56)
It is very unlikely that Manu will get a long deal, but potentially we could offer him a 3 year contract, expecting him to retire after 2. This mean we could pay him more with less of a cap penalty. eg $10m/2years is a $5 million cap space, but $12 million/3years is a $4 million cap space...

[ElNono]

Only 3 players (Garnett, Duncan and Nash) are older than Ginobili and paid more than $5M. All 3 are former MVPs.

Didn't Camby get a $11m deal from Portland in 2010-2011 at 36?

Not saying Manu should get that, I think $3m-$4m range will be enough to keep him.

Interesting too is that after Tim, Nash and KG, Manu is ranked 4th with the highest PER at 35+ years old.

[Richie]

One other thing to note - there is a rule about giving long contracts to older players: The over 36 Rule (http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q56)
It is very unlikely that Manu will get a long deal, but potentially we could offer him a 3 year contract, expecting him to retire after 2. This mean we could pay him more with less of a cap penalty. eg $10m/2years is a $5 million cap space, but $12 million/3years is a $4 million cap space...

That over 36 rule is very complicated. It seems to only talk about players signing for 4 years or more, does anyone know if it applies on contracts 3 years or less?

[Mel_13]

Didn't Camby get a $11m deal from Portland in 2010-2011 at 36?

Not saying Manu should get that, I think $3m-$4m range will be enough to keep him.

Interesting too is that after Tim, Nash and KG, Manu is ranked 4th with the highest PER at 35+ years old.

Manu will get something slightly above the MLE.


That over 36 rule is very complicated. It seems to only talk about players signing for 4 years or more, does anyone know if it applies on contracts 3 years or less?

It seems clear that it only applies to contracts of 4 years or longer. Duncan, Garnett, and Nash all signed 3 year contracts last summer and there was no mention of the over 36 rule.

[superjames1992]

Only 3 players (Garnett, Duncan and Nash) are older than Ginobili and paid more than $5M. All 3 are former MVPs.
I think Manu has aged better than most, though, tbh.

Most players really drop off by their mid-30s, but even though Manu has fallen off some and has struggled at times this year, in most respects he's still pretty good.

[Bruno]

Didn't Camby get a $11m deal from Portland in 2010-2011 at 36?

Not saying Manu should get that, I think $3m-$4m range will be enough to keep him.

I was talking about players that are earning more money than Ginobili while being older for this season. In the past, you can find many examples of 36+ years old players being paid more than $5M per year. There were mostly pas firs PGs or bigmen with size, the two kind of players that are aging the best.

$3M/$4M per years seems too low for Ginoibli, I would more go with $6M/$8M per year with a two years contract.


I think Manu has aged better than most, though, tbh.

I want to see what Manu will do in the playoffs before deciding whether or not he is aging well.

[BackHome]

Love Manu but would not pay him more then 5 mill a year..3 year deal with last Spurs option.

[Captivus]

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Seconde time in my career being a FA. Last time was 2004. Lets see what happens in the following days.

[Drom John]

A symbolic contract would be $3,229,020.
$30 less than Ray Allen, but I like the "20."