GOP chair pins 2012 loss on debates, branding

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Apparently, he thinks that there were too many debates and that they should have done a better job branding their image. It sounds to me like they are more interested in making themselves appear better while hiding who they are and how they behave and think.

The GOP is going to go down the crapper and this denial does not bode well for midterm election campaigns cranking up around this time next year. This is the direction they are going now. With the GOP senate obstructionism continuing they had best hope they get a really good advertising agency.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-3460_162...-to-2012-loss/

[CosmicCowboy]

Actually makes sense. Republicans shot themselves in the ass with all the debates. I wouldn't get too cocky about 2016 if I were you fuzzynuts. The Obama economy is gonna be a big pile of shit to dig out of by then for whoever gets the Dem nomination.

[boutons_deux]

RNC Planning $10 Million Minority Outreach, Fewer 2016 Debates, Earlier Convention

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/17/reince-priebus-rnc_n_2896942.html


RNC chair to fix GOP with ‘hackathons,’ marketing ‘year round’ — but no policy changes

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/03/17/rnc-chair-to-fix-gop-with-hackathons-marketing-year-round-but-no-policy-changes/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

:lol

[baseline bum]

Number one, we’re a little too math focused


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[baseline bum]

Seriously Fuzzy, did you expect them to say their party sucks and that a majority of Americans saw through their empty platitudes?

[ElNono]

You would think debates would actually provide greater exposure to the ideas of the party and thus be events they would want more of, not less...



...unless your ideas suck.

[ElNono]

But it's good to hear that they recognize and need to address items where they were way behind, like technology.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Actually makes sense. Republicans shot themselves in the ass with all the debates. I wouldn't get too cocky about 2016 if I were you fuzzynuts. The Obama economy is gonna be a big pile of shit to dig out of by then for whoever gets the Dem nomination.

I have not voted for a democrat in the last two elections. They shot themselves in the foot because the American public could see what the candidates for what they were like and they sucked. Rick Perry was a buffoon. Rick Santorum is an obnoxious social conservative bordering on zealotry. Romney is a mealy-mouthed dissembler. They shot themselves in the foot because they are awful leaders not because the debates happened. Nevermind that the public attention which is great for democracy was very high. People watched those debates and want to be engaged. The GOP doesn't wnat that.

And lets look at economic indicators and keep in mind this is after an increase in taxes including the payroll tax:

Unemployment: down.
Sales including core sales: up
various stock markets: way up
factory orders: up

Continue living in your dream world. I will continue living in reality.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Seriously Fuzzy, did you expect them to say their party sucks and that a majority of Americans saw through their empty platitudes?

If you don't have anything nice to say then don't say anything at all. That's not directed at you but at them. It would have been one thing to just ignore the issue but it's quite another to address it head on by dismissing it.

[ElNono]

Frankly, I think more and more people are coming around to the realization that neither party wants to (or even can?) change the status quo when it comes to the few interests that control a large part of the economy. Banks will keep on being too big to fail, too big to prosecute, large multinationals will keep on outsourcing or outright replacing workers with automation to please Wall Street, the MIC will keep milking the government for every penny they have, etc etc etc.

Guys like Bernanke that walked into the Fed with Bush and still remains with Barry is a great example of 'meet the new boss, same as the old boss'.

IMO, people in general are quite skeptic of *any* claims from *any* party at this point when it comes to the economy, supply side, stimulus, and any other theory making the rounds. Ultimately, you get the impression that you, the citizen, are gonna get screwed regardless, and the few up top will get the cozy deals. Happened with the TARP, Obamacare, etc. and I think it's a large part of why people overall hate Congress, no matter the party.

As far as the GOP is concerned, IMO, they need to go away from stupid generalizations and dumbed down messages (like comparing the US economy with a household economy), and evolve a bit on social issues. Not full blown 'we love abortions', but at least weed out morons like Akin from the party. That'd be a good start.

The 2016 election is the GOPs to lose, IMO. But we've just seen that if they try hard enough, they lose it.

[ElNono]

BTW, this is an article that somebody else posted in another thread and somewhat illustrates what I was saying in my previous post:
http://www.politico.com/story/2013/03/poll-warns-republicans-of-focus-on-deficit-88954.html

[CosmicCowboy]

I have not voted for a democrat in the last two elections. They shot themselves in the foot because the American public could see what the candidates for what they were like and they sucked. Rick Perry was a buffoon. Rick Santorum is an obnoxious social conservative bordering on zealotry. Romney is a mealy-mouthed dissembler. They shot themselves in the foot because they are awful leaders not because the debates happened. Nevermind that the public attention which is great for democracy was very high. People watched those debates and want to be engaged. The GOP doesn't wnat that.

And lets look at economic indicators and keep in mind this is after an increase in taxes including the payroll tax:

Unemployment: down.
Sales including core sales: up
various stock markets: way up
factory orders: up

Continue living in your dream world. I will continue living in reality.

:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

You are an idiot if you think everything is just peachy.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

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[Clipper Nation]

They probably should have thought of this BEFORE they forced a nominee who's too stiff and deluded to win a debate, and whose off-the-record rants and verbal gaffes are destructive to the GOP's brand, tbh.....

[Winehole23]

super PAC money kept the GOP clown car rolling far longer than it would have in the pre-Citizens United era, buoying up candidates who had no realistic chance to win in the general election and draining Romney's resources in a fight with other Republicans. Had Romney been able to sew up the nomination a bit sooner, attention would have turned to Obama and away from Republican non-entities foaming at the mouth.

[DarrinS]

The 47% video released by Jimmy Carter's grandson prob didn't help.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

The debates were one of the few areas where Romney held his own with Obama. That isn't even close to the biggest reason why the Republicans lost.

Even though the Dems don't have any great candidate lined up for 2016, I still see them winning because of the direction demographics are headed and the fact the Republican candidates aren't any better. By then it'll be 4 more years of Republicans dying off, Democrats turning 18, and a bigger portion of voters being non-white. States like Ohio that used to be swing states might be solid blue by 2016.

[Winehole23]

http://images.politico.com/global/2013/03/17/rnc_growth_opportunity_book_2013.html

[Winehole23]

The 47% video released by Jimmy Carter's grandson prob didn't help.video of Romney putting his foot in his mouth did not help. true.

[TeyshaBlue]

http://images.politico.com/global/2013/03/17/rnc_growth_opportunity_book_2013.html

At first blush, that appears to be a startlingly well thought out analysis. Had never looked at the Governor vs. National figures regarding Republican electoral success. Telling.

[Clipper Nation]

The 47% video released by Jimmy Carter's grandson prob didn't help.
Willard making that idiotic 47% comment in the first place definitely didn't help....

[boutons_deux]

Repugs controlling governor and legislature are able to fuck up their states in ways they can't achieve nationally.


4 Absurd GOP Efforts to Look "Inclusive" and "Tolerant" Totally Undermined by Their Policies

1. RNC RHETORIC

“[W]e do need to make sure young people do not see the Party as totally intolerant of alternative points of view. Already, there is a generational difference within the conservative movement about issues involving the treatment and the rights of gays — and for many younger voters, these issues are a gateway into whether the Party is a place they want to be.

ACTUAL POLICY

Republicans are spending millions (http://thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2013/01/15/1452801/boehner-secretly-agrees-to-now-pay-3-million-defending-marriage-discrimination-law/) of dollars defending the discriminatory Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA), generally oppose federal nondiscrimination laws to protect the LGBT community and marriage equality.

2. RNC RHETORIC
“The Republican Party must be the champion of those who seek to climb the economic ladder of life. Low-income Americans are hard-working people who want to become hard-working middle-income Americans. Middle-income Americans want to become upper-middle-income, and so on. We need to help everyone make it in America.”

ACTUAL POLICY

Rep. Paul Ryan’s (R-WI) budget, released last week, slashes the health and safety net programs that middle and lower income Americans rely on — like Medicare, Medicaid, and food stamps — while proposing tax code reforms that would significantly benefit top-income earners and corporations. A recent analysis (http://www.cbpp.org/cms/index.cfm?fa=view&id=3925) from the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities concluded that the budget “would get at least 66 percent of its $5 trillion in non-defense budget cuts over ten years (relative to a continuation of current policies) from programs that serve people of limited means.” GOP governors have offered plans to axe sate corporate and personal income taxes, replacing them instead with an increase in the sales tax. Such policies would directly benefit the rich at the expense of the poor. (http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2013/01/15/1449001/jindal-tax-80-percent/)

3. RNC RHETORIC

“We have to blow the whistle at corporate malfeasance and attack corporate welfare. We should speak out when a company liquidates itself and its executives receive bonuses but rank-and-file workers are left unemployed. We should speak out when CEOs receive tens of millions of dollars in retirement packages but middle-class workers have not had a meaningful raise in years.”

ACTUAL POLICY

Republicans have proposed slashing the corporate tax rate just as corporate profits are skyrocketing (http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2013/03/11/1699101/corporate-profits-tax-havens/) and wages for middle and lower income Americans remain stagnant. The GOP seeks to repeal Wall Street reform (http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2013/01/24/1492901/new-republican-lies-wall-street/) and resists any efforts to tax capital gains (http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2013/02/20/1616651/capital-gains-tax-cuts-by-far-the-biggest-contributor-to-growth-in-income-inequality-study-finds/) at a higher rate, close the carried interest loophole (http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2013/02/04/1535461/obama-carried-interest-again/), or raise any taxes on higher-income earners. Rep. Paul Ryan’s (R-WI) budget, for instance, “would result in tax cuts worth an average of about $330,000 a year (http://www.cbpp.org/cms/index.cfm?fa=view&id=3926) to households with incomes of more than $1 million a year.”

4. RNC RHETORIC

“Our candidates, spokespeople, and staff need to use language that addresses concerns that are on women’s minds in order to let them know we are fighting for them.“

ACTUAL POLICY

Republicans in Congress oppose provisions in the Affordable Care Act that provide contraception coverage to women without additional co-pays, have backed measures to allow employers to deny birth control to their female employees (http://thinkprogress.org/health/2012/10/21/1055041/rubio-defends-romney-contraception/), voted against equal pay for equal work (http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2012/04/26/472103/mccain-video-war-on-women/), and even stonewalled the Violence Against Women Act (http://thinkprogress.org/health/2013/02/12/1556601/senate-passes-vawa-again/). Lawmakers on the state level have enacted numerous provisions that seek to severly restrict (http://www.guttmacher.org/media/inthenews/2013/01/02/index.html) access to abortion services.

http://www.alternet.org/4-absurd-gop-efforts-look-inclusive-and-tolerant-totally-undermined-their-policies

[Clipper Nation]

super PAC money kept the GOP clown car rolling far longer than it would have in the pre-Citizens United era, buoying up candidates who had no realistic chance to win in the general election and draining Romney's resources in a fight with other Republicans.
You say that as if Willard somehow had a realistic chance of beating Obama.... let's be real, even if Willard had run unopposed as the GOP nominee, he still would have been slaughtered in the general election, tbh.....

[boutons_deux]

the kind of crap proposed in Repug states



NORTH DAKOTA: The state is getting in on the latest anti-abortion fad sweeping the nation (http://app.mx3.americanprogressaction.org/e/er?s=785&lid=136915&elq=6c2ba0d0798b488a8f4995bd4d039d55): so-called “heartbeat bills” that ban abortion as soon as a fetal heartbeat can be detected. North Dakota is set to pass a law that bans abortions (http://app.mx3.americanprogressaction.org/e/er?s=785&lid=140488&elq=6c2ba0d0798b488a8f4995bd4d039d55) (at its single remaining abortion clinic) after just six weeks. The law, the most stringent in the nation, is clearly unconstitutional.




TEXAS: An “avid proponent of tort reform” in the state legislature has proposed a law that will allow people to be served notice of a lawsuit through social media sites (http://app.mx3.americanprogressaction.org/e/er?s=785&lid=140489&elq=6c2ba0d0798b488a8f4995bd4d039d55) like Facebook and Twitter.




OKLAHOMA: The Sooner State is still fighting Obamacare and just this week the Oklahoma House passed an unconstitutional Obamacare “nullification” law (http://app.mx3.americanprogressaction.org/e/er?s=785&lid=140490&elq=6c2ba0d0798b488a8f4995bd4d039d55).




INDIANA: Newly elected Gov. Mike Pence (R) is pushing for a 10 percent cut in the state’s income tax, something which could gut investments in education and infrastructure. Even Republican legislators are wary, but the Koch Brothers front group, Americans for Prosperity is pushing the proposal (http://app.mx3.americanprogressaction.org/e/er?s=785&lid=140491&elq=6c2ba0d0798b488a8f4995bd4d039d55).




MISSISSIPPI: The Magnolia state, which has the highest obesity rate in the nation, passed a so-called “anti-Bloomberg” bill (http://app.mx3.americanprogressaction.org/e/er?s=785&lid=140492&elq=6c2ba0d0798b488a8f4995bd4d039d55) to prevent localities from “enacting rules that require calorie counts to be posted, that cap portion sizes, or that keep toys out of kids’ meals.”




SOUTH CAROLINA: The Palmetto State said no to expanding Medicaid under Obamacare, which sadly is hardly a novel feat. The South Carolina GOP’s innovation was to explain its motivation for doing so was because the president is black (http://app.mx3.americanprogressaction.org/e/er?s=785&lid=140234&elq=6c2ba0d0798b488a8f4995bd4d039d55).




OHIO: Ohio’s radical anti-union law was overturned by a statewide referendum and its anti-voting law was headed for the same fate until the legislature preemptively repealed it on their own. Now Ohio legislators are trying to make it harder for voters to initiate referenda (http://app.mx3.americanprogressaction.org/e/er?s=785&lid=140493&elq=6c2ba0d0798b488a8f4995bd4d039d55) to overturn the radical laws passed by the GOP-controlled legislature.




NEW HAMPSHIRE: You might think that the 13th amendment to the Constitution is the one that banned slavery, but some Republican legislators in New Hampshire would like to tell you otherwise. They claim the “original 13th amendment” is one that banned people with titles of nobility from holding office and that it was deleted by some sort of conspiracy. They aren’t taking this lying down and have introduced a bill to restore the “original” version (http://app.mx3.americanprogressaction.org/e/er?s=785&lid=140494&elq=6c2ba0d0798b488a8f4995bd4d039d55), in order “to end the infiltration of the Bar Association and the judicial branch into the executive and legislative branches of government and the unlawful usurpation of the people’s right.”




IOWA: An Iowa Republican wanted to ban no-fault divorces for couples with children, out of fears that easier divorces may make teenage girls “more promiscuous.” (http://app.mx3.americanprogressaction.org/e/er?s=785&lid=140495&elq=6c2ba0d0798b488a8f4995bd4d039d55) Fortunately, legislative leaders shut that whole thing down.


http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/9-terrible-republican-proposed-state-laws

[TeyshaBlue]

lol alternet. lol echo chamber

Eight of the 10 states with the lowest unemployment in America have Republican governors.

Gerogia Governor Nathan Deal saved the state’s popular college scholarship program from bankruptcy.

Kansas Governor Sam Brownback reformed the state Medicaid program to improve and
expand services while saving the state more than $800 million over five years — without
cutting provider rates or removing people from Medicaid.

New Jersey Governor Chris Christie saved retirees their pensions through pension reform,
which also resulted in taxpayers saving $120 billion over 30 years.

Ohio Governor John Kasich closed an $8 billion shortfall without raising taxes.
He revamped economic development and diversified his state’s employment base,
and Ohio’s unemployment rate has dropped steadily.


etc...etc....
Probably won't find that on alternet. :lmao:lmao

[boutons_deux]

lol alternet. lol echo chamber

Eight of the 10 states with the lowest unemployment in America have Republican governors.

Gerogia Governor Nathan Deal saved the state’s popular college scholarship program from bankruptcy.

Kansas Governor Sam Brownback reformed the state Medicaid program to improve and
expand services while saving the state more than $800 million over five years — without
cutting provider rates or removing people from Medicaid.

New Jersey Governor Chris Christie saved retirees their pensions through pension reform,
which also resulted in taxpayers saving $120 billion over 30 years.

Ohio Governor John Kasich closed an $8 billion shortfall without raising taxes.
He revamped economic development and diversified his state’s employment base,
and Ohio’s unemployment rate has dropped steadily.


etc...etc....
Probably won't find that on alternet. :lmao:lmao

right to work states have lower avg incomes than blue states, so more shitty jobs/suppressed salaries.

[TeyshaBlue]

right to work states have lower avg incomes than blue states, so more shitty jobs/suppressed salaries.

lol echo chamber.

lol analysis aversion.

[CosmicCowboy]

A Conservative Republican Black Surgeon.

Wild Cobra's head is spinning.

[Winehole23]

You say that as if Willard somehow had a realistic chance of beating Obama.... let's be real, even if Willard had run unopposed as the GOP nominee, he still would have been slaughtered in the general election, tbh.....I think Romney did have a realistic chance, but that an overlong nomination process and a horribly run campaign did him in.

[TeyshaBlue]

I think Romney did have a realistic chance, but that an overlong nomination process and a horribly run campaign did him in.

Obama's camp continues to impress with their data mining and web-savy approach to campaigning.

[boutons_deux]

I think Romney did have a realistic chance, but that an overlong nomination process and a horribly run campaign did him in.

so he didn't REALLY have a chance. Obamacare Barry/2012 won much bigger than "war president" dubya/2004.

[ElNono]

New Jersey Governor Chris Christie saved retirees their pensions through pension reform,
which also resulted in taxpayers saving $120 billion over 30 years.

Christie also 'reformed' pensions for groups that didn't need 'saving', ie: Police and Fire Fighters, whose funds were fully funded.

His 'New jersey comeback' "plan" also has one of the highest unemployment rates in the nation to show for it.

He also vowed to lower property taxes (NJ has one of the highest rates in the nation), and people are still waiting.

I'm sure alternet covered some of these here and there :lol

[TeyshaBlue]

Christie also 'reformed' pensions for groups that didn't need 'saving', ie: Police and Fire Fighters, whose funds were fully funded.

His 'New jersey comeback' "plan" also has one of the highest unemployment rates in the nation to show for it.

He also vowed not to lower property taxes (NJ has one of the highest rates in the nation), and people are still waiting.

I'm sure alternet covered some of these here and there :lol

:lol:lol

[FuzzyLumpkins]

:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

You are an idiot if you think everything is just peachy.

Yeah that's what I said. :rolleyes

[FuzzyLumpkins]

The 47% video released by Jimmy Carter's grandson prob didn't help.

It wasn't just the presidency that the GOP failed. They also performed poorly in the Congressional elections. Compare it to what they were 'supposed' to do and it was an abject failure.

:lol retake the senate

[FuzzyLumpkins]

http://images.politico.com/global/2013/03/17/rnc_growth_opportunity_book_2013.html

:lmao Good find.


One of the contributors to this problem is that while Democrats tend to talk about people,
Republicans tend to talk about policy. Our ideas can sound distant and removed from
people’s lives. Instead of connecting with voters’ concerns, we too often sound like
bookkeepers. We need to do a better job connecting people to our policies.

Translation: People don't like our policies so we shouldn't talk about them.

[boutons_deux]

Repug policies? Y'all want to talk about Repug policies? :lol


Two-Thirds Of House GOP’s Budget Cuts Come From Programs For Low-Income Americans (http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2013/03/18/1735811/gop-budget-low-income-cuts/)

The House Republican budget’s vast spending cuts are overwhelmingly aimed at low-income Americans, so much so that nearly two-thirds of its budget cuts would come from poverty programs that aid the neediest people in the nation, according to the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities.

Budget Committee Chairman Paul Ryan (R-WI), the plan’s author, claims his budget will cut a total $4.6 trillion in spending by using a baseline that includes current policies like the automatic budget cuts known as sequestration, among other policies. By counting those cuts and other policies that are unlikely to remain in tact, CBPP estimates that the House Republican plan would cut even more — a total of $5 trillion. Of that, 66 percent of the cuts (http://www.cbpp.org/cms/index.cfm?fa=view&id=3925) — a total of $3.3 trillion — would come from programs that help low-income Americans, CBPP found:

http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/cbppryanbudget.jpg

This version of the House GOP plan cuts even more from low-income programs than the 2012 version, which found 62 percent (http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2012/03/23/451050/ryan-budget-low-income-cuts/) of its cuts from similar sources. That version was even more draconian (http://www.cbpp.org/cms/index.cfm?fa=view&id=3723&emailView=1) than its predecessor, meaning Ryan’s budgets have gotten more devastating for the poor each year.

The social safety net keeps millions of Americans out of poverty each year, but the House GOP plan seeks to convert many of them, including food stamps, into block grants to states that follow the model of the 1996 welfare reform law that has failed to help children and families in poverty, particularly during and after the Great Recession. At the same time, Ryan’s plan provides $5.7 trillion in tax cuts aimed largely at the wealthy and corporations. Under his proposal, the average millionaire would see a tax cut of at least $200,000 (http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2013/03/18/1732981/gop-budget-millionaires-tax-cut/).

http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2013/03/18/1735811/gop-budget-low-income-cuts/

[TeyshaBlue]

Repug policies? Y'all want to talk about Repug policies? :lol



lol thinkprogress.

[boutons_deux]

lol thinkprogress.

so you really can't dispute CBPP analysis? analysis averse? TB :lol

[TeyshaBlue]

Maybe you should start with their baseline assumptions, which include a crap load of the Ryan plan's cuts. Then they build a case against the very data points they use to make their "analysis".

Too fucking funny. Not surprising you can't see this, tho.

[TeyshaBlue]

Maybe you should start with their baseline assumptions, which include a crap load of the Ryan plan's cuts. Then they build a case against the very data points they use to make their "analysis".

Too fucking funny. Not surprising you can't see this, tho.

Since thinkprogress didn't spell it out for you, you remain oblivious to it. lol simpleton.

[boutons_deux]

Maybe you should start with their baseline assumptions, which include a crap load of the Ryan plan's cuts. Then they build a case against the very data points they use to make their "analysis".

Too fucking funny. Not surprising you can't see this, tho.

so the spending cuts on the poor and tax cuts on the corps/1% are all bogus?

[TeyshaBlue]

so the spending cuts on the poor and tax cuts on the corps/1% are all bogus?

lol. You can't even ask the right questions. lol simpleton.

[TeyshaBlue]

I took a thinkprogress hit piece apart in 30 seconds (again) and all you can do is ask asinine, talking point questions.

[TeyshaBlue]

maybe you should be asking yourself why you quote such a low content blog like tp.

[boutons_deux]

answer evasion? TB :lol

[TeyshaBlue]

answer evasion? TB :lol

"so the spending cuts on the poor and tax cuts on the corps/1% are all bogus?"

Of course not. But the analysis by CBPP and tp is shit. That's the point I'm making and you continue to ignore.

[TeyshaBlue]

lol boutons
lol logic evasion

[Wild Cobra]

A Conservative Republican Black Surgeon.

Wild Cobra's head is spinning.
No it's not. Do you apply all "what if" scenarios to your belief system?

[FuzzyLumpkins]

No it's not. Do you apply all "what if" scenarios to your belief system?

You should ask yourself the same question. Youre well known for "what if <made up nonsense that in your mind would excuse or validate what you want to believe>" and then acting and talking along those lines. You try and center the discussion around said wishful thinking.

For example:


Or was it a liberal plant, setting up the video?

You do it all the time.

[CosmicCowboy]

Back to the OP, there is no doubt that the fucking clown car full of primary candidates and the endless fucking primary debates hurt the Republicans. they chopped each other to shreds while Obama sat back and smirked. Most Republicans after those debates wanted a "none of the above" choice and a "restart" button.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Back to the OP, there is no doubt that the fucking clown car full of primary candidates and the endless fucking primary debates hurt the Republicans. they chopped each other to shreds while Obama sat back and smirked. Most Republicans after those debates wanted a "none of the above" choice and a "restart" button.

:lol So competition is not good?

They chopped each other to shreds because there was no legitimate candidate. The one that was most compelling was Ron Paul and red team shunned him. Indeed the clown car was the problem, not the production.

[Winehole23]

The party has fallen by default into the worst caricatures of its coalition’s components. The very choice of leaders in the last election revealed how tone deaf Republicans had become: however Catholic Paul Ryan may or may not be, he’s identified in the public mind (http://www.theonion.com/articles/romney-campaign-sends-in-champion-of-the-poor-paul,29608/) entirely with the business wing of conservatism. So was Romney, who had the added burden of religious background that he dared hardly speak of.


Meanwhile, even though it should be obvious that a business-minded GOP doesn’t want to pour effort into culture-war issues, the party has acquired a reputation for out-and-out hostility to women, minorities, and homosexuals. It’s a complete botch: both the economics and the social policies of the party have been turned from strengths into weaknesses.


That’s what you get when you prioritize political technique and ideological checklists over creative engagement with ideas. It’s also what you get when you try to be someone you’re not—when a John McCain or Mitt Romney poses as a culture warrior, for example. That alienates moderate voters who might actually a like a moderate Republican candidate, even as it fails to excite right-wing activists about candidates who transparently are not the men they pretend to be. The sheer insincerity of the exercise repels yet more voters.


It also confounds the party’s ability to analyze its mistakes: moderates can say, with good reason, that McCain and Romney were too tainted by an unpopular right-wing brand, while right-wingers can say with equal justice that McCain and Romney weren’t conservatives and never expressed conservatism persuasively. One faction prescribes more moderation, the other prescribes more conservatism, and neither gets the point that the wrong kinds of moderation and conservatism together are crippling the party.http://www.theamericanconservative.com/mccarthy/how-a-good-political-brand-goes-bad/

[Winehole23]

At first blush, that appears to be a startlingly well thought out analysis. Had never looked at the Governor vs. National figures regarding Republican electoral success. Telling.Ramesh Ponnuru thinks the premise is a weakness of the report.


Here’s how the report opens: “The GOP today is a tale of two parties. One of them, the gubernatorial wing, is growing and successful. The other, the federal wing, is increasingly marginalizing itself, and unless changes are made, it will be increasingly difficult for Republicans to win another presidential election in the near future.”


We have heard this a lot since the election. It’s much too optimistic. All Republican success at the gubernatorial level really tells us is that the party is doing fine in red states and did well in 2009–10. Take a look at the list of Republican governors (http://www.rga.org/homepage/governors/). Every one of them was either elected in 2009–10 or in a state Romney carried or both. And what the 2009–10 experience tells us, like the elections of 1966, 1978, and 1994, is that Republicans usually do well when Democrats have control of both houses of Congress and the White House.


Maybe the federal party is too ideological and should mimic the pragmatic governors. There may well be something to that. But the fact that Republicans have 30 of the 50 governorships doesn’t tell us much, and the fact that the RNC report keeps returning to the claim that it does is not reassuring about its grasp of the party’s problem.

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/343243/rncs-election-report-ramesh-ponnuru

[Winehole23]

The root of the GOP’s problem now is the same as that of the Democrats in 1969: the party’s reputation has been ruined by a botched, unnecessary war—Vietnam in the case of the Democrats, Iraq for the GOP. This may sound implausible: every political scientist knows that Americans don’t care about foreign policy; certainly they don’t vote based on it. But foreign policy is not just about foreign policy: it’s also about culture...

...Through the 1980s, both alternate Democratic brands—Johnson-style Cold War liberalism and peacenik McGovernism—were tainted by Vietnam and the war’s cultural aftershocks. The party could not shake its reputation for defeatism and radicalism merely by nominating a Southern Baptist like Jimmy Carter or an old-line laborite like Walter Mondale. And even though America had become mildly antiwar—Nixon got out of Vietnam and Reagan never launched an intervention on such a scale—it was not antiwar in a way that the Democratic Party’s left could capitalize on.


Instead the Republican Party, for all its anti-Communist rhetoric, adopted a conflict-averse Realpolitik exemplified by Nixon’s opening to China and Reagan’s negotiations with Gorbachev—maneuvers that cemented the GOP’s reputation for adult leadership among centrist voters. The long-remembered excesses of the New Left and the reality-based policies—especially foreign policy—of the Republican Party reduced Democrats to role of half-party for almost a quarter of a century.

That’s a role Republicans might have to get used to today, thanks to the Iraq War and prolonged occupation of Afghanistan. And like the Democrats of the ’70s and ’80s, Republicans of the 21st century not even begun to grapple with the magnitude of what their foreign-policy follies mean for the culture. Instead of the causes of gay rights and black power being tied to the party that started a war in Vietnam that it couldn’t finish, the causes of traditional marriage and tax cuts are now tied to a party that started wars in Iraq and Afghanistan that it couldn’t finish...


...The GOP never learned to talk to the post-Vietnam generation in the first place; over the last decade, it compounded the problem by launching wars that, far from resolving the unfinished business of the Vietnam era, only made clear that those who are refighting the conflicts of that time are oblivious to today’s realities.


While Republicans wage a war on the past, Barack Obama has staked claim to the future—in the same way that Richard Nixon and Ronald Reagan once did. The reputation for competence in wielding power that Nixon (before Watergate) and Reagan accumulated now accrues to Obama’s advantage. He brought the troops home from Iraq—however reluctantly—and is on course to end the war in Afghanistan next year. His foreign policy, like Nixon’s and Reagan’s, involves plenty of military force. But like those Republicans, the incumbent Democrat has avoided debacles of the sort that characterized the administrations of Lyndon Johnson and George W. Bush.

Meanwhile, Obama is winning the culture war because that war continues to be fought by the right in the terms of the Vietnam era. That mistake, coupled with the natural credit a leader gets from keeping the country out of quagmires, gives the president’s party a tremendous advantage among the rising generation...

...The Republican Party may not be able to escape its McGovern phase, even if Democrats screw up (as they will) and we briefly get a Republican Carter. The party and the ideology soaked into it have lost their reputation for competence, and they’ve lost the emotional resonances that come with being the party of America: victory, prosperity, normality. Instead the resonances that come from the War on Terror are of a party and an era marked by resentment, recession, and insecurity. Although the party still sees Ronald Reagan when it looks in the mirror, what the rest of the country sees is George W. Bush—much as post-Vietnam Democrats continued to think of themselves as the party of Franklin Roosevelt when in the minds of most Americans they had become the party of Johnson and McGovern.


Until the Republican Party can come to grips with its failure, the Democrats will be the party Americans trust to govern.http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/the-gops-vietnam-212/

[DarkReign]

Repugs controlling governor and legislature are able to fuck up their states in ways they can't achieve nationally.


4 Absurd GOP Efforts to Look "Inclusive" and "Tolerant" Totally Undermined by Their Policies

1. RNC RHETORIC

“[W]e do need to make sure young people do not see the Party as totally intolerant of alternative points of view. Already, there is a generational difference within the conservative movement about issues involving the treatment and the rights of gays — and for many younger voters, these issues are a gateway into whether the Party is a place they want to be.

ACTUAL POLICY

Republicans are spending millions (http://thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2013/01/15/1452801/boehner-secretly-agrees-to-now-pay-3-million-defending-marriage-discrimination-law/) of dollars defending the discriminatory Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA), generally oppose federal nondiscrimination laws to protect the LGBT community and marriage equality.

2. RNC RHETORIC
“The Republican Party must be the champion of those who seek to climb the economic ladder of life. Low-income Americans are hard-working people who want to become hard-working middle-income Americans. Middle-income Americans want to become upper-middle-income, and so on. We need to help everyone make it in America.”

ACTUAL POLICY

Rep. Paul Ryan’s (R-WI) budget, released last week, slashes the health and safety net programs that middle and lower income Americans rely on — like Medicare, Medicaid, and food stamps — while proposing tax code reforms that would significantly benefit top-income earners and corporations. A recent analysis (http://www.cbpp.org/cms/index.cfm?fa=view&id=3925) from the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities concluded that the budget “would get at least 66 percent of its $5 trillion in non-defense budget cuts over ten years (relative to a continuation of current policies) from programs that serve people of limited means.” GOP governors have offered plans to axe sate corporate and personal income taxes, replacing them instead with an increase in the sales tax. Such policies would directly benefit the rich at the expense of the poor. (http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2013/01/15/1449001/jindal-tax-80-percent/)

3. RNC RHETORIC

“We have to blow the whistle at corporate malfeasance and attack corporate welfare. We should speak out when a company liquidates itself and its executives receive bonuses but rank-and-file workers are left unemployed. We should speak out when CEOs receive tens of millions of dollars in retirement packages but middle-class workers have not had a meaningful raise in years.”

ACTUAL POLICY

Republicans have proposed slashing the corporate tax rate just as corporate profits are skyrocketing (http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2013/03/11/1699101/corporate-profits-tax-havens/) and wages for middle and lower income Americans remain stagnant. The GOP seeks to repeal Wall Street reform (http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2013/01/24/1492901/new-republican-lies-wall-street/) and resists any efforts to tax capital gains (http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2013/02/20/1616651/capital-gains-tax-cuts-by-far-the-biggest-contributor-to-growth-in-income-inequality-study-finds/) at a higher rate, close the carried interest loophole (http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2013/02/04/1535461/obama-carried-interest-again/), or raise any taxes on higher-income earners. Rep. Paul Ryan’s (R-WI) budget, for instance, “would result in tax cuts worth an average of about $330,000 a year (http://www.cbpp.org/cms/index.cfm?fa=view&id=3926) to households with incomes of more than $1 million a year.”

4. RNC RHETORIC

“Our candidates, spokespeople, and staff need to use language that addresses concerns that are on women’s minds in order to let them know we are fighting for them.“

ACTUAL POLICY

Republicans in Congress oppose provisions in the Affordable Care Act that provide contraception coverage to women without additional co-pays, have backed measures to allow employers to deny birth control to their female employees (http://thinkprogress.org/health/2012/10/21/1055041/rubio-defends-romney-contraception/), voted against equal pay for equal work (http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2012/04/26/472103/mccain-video-war-on-women/), and even stonewalled the Violence Against Women Act (http://thinkprogress.org/health/2013/02/12/1556601/senate-passes-vawa-again/). Lawmakers on the state level have enacted numerous provisions that seek to severly restrict (http://www.guttmacher.org/media/inthenews/2013/01/02/index.html) access to abortion services.

http://www.alternet.org/4-absurd-gop-efforts-look-inclusive-and-tolerant-totally-undermined-their-policies

Uhhhh, the quotes used in your "article" there are literally in the first 10 pages of a 100 page document.

The person youre quoting clearly never read past that...didnt even skim past that.

[Winehole23]

I doubt boutons read it either

[boutons_deux]

Uhhhh, the quotes used in your "article" there are literally in the first 10 pages of a 100 page document.

The person youre quoting clearly never read past that...didnt even skim past that.

and you read the other 100 pages?

the point is that what RNC says and does is, which is all smokescreen bullshit, is totally different from what the Repug STATES are doing which is more and more extreme nuttiness, and in the case of outlawing abortion, 100% illegal. The Repugs also have bills in CONGRESS to totally defund Planned Parenthood. The Repug War on Women continues full blast.

[boutons_deux]

uh oh, the Repug party's thought dictator ain't happy

Limbaugh: GOP’s ‘Autopsy’ Is Wrong

Rush Limbaugh blasted the Republican Party for saying in a new report that conservatives were “narrow-minded” and “out of touch.”

The Republican National Committee released earlier on Monday an “autopsy” of its 2012 election failures and pinned the blame on the party being out of touch with voters, particularly minorities.

Limbaugh said the opposite was true. “We are in touch with the founding of this country. We are in touch with the greatness in this country and its people,” the popular radio commentator said, according to Politico.

Limbaugh said that if the party moves away from championing values, such as traditional marriage, it will lose support among its base.

“If the party makes that [gay marriage] something official that they support, they’re not going to pull the homosexual activist voters away from the Democrat Party, but they are going to cause their base to stay home and throw their hands up in utter frustration,” Limbaugh said.

Limbaugh said it was party leaders who were out of touch with its own base. “Whether they like it or not, the Republican Party’s base is sufficiently large that they cannot do without them and their problem is they don’t like them. It really isn’t any more complicated than that.”

http://www.newsmax.com/Newswidget/limbaugh-gop-autopsy-conservatives/2013/03/18/id/495240?promo_code=12289-1&utm_source=12289Raw_Story&utm_medium=nmwidget&utm_campaign=widgetphase1

Works at the national level, but at the Repug (Confederate) state level, with insane gerrymandering and voter suppression, Repugs are ACTUALLY doing wonderfully.

"their problem is they don’t like them." never have never will. As dubya said to NAACP: "I value the black vote" (not black people). Repugs are the party of the 1% suckering in single-issue, ignorant bubbas with the their social issues and "Christian" hating.

[DarkReign]

and you read the other 100 pages?.

No, but then again I don't pretend to be a journalist whose work would be linked by others as a source of either endorsement or criticism. Sooooo, there's that.

But I did read the first ~30 pages and skimmed the rest.

[TeyshaBlue]

No, but then again I don't pretend to be a journalist whose work would be linked by others as a source of either endorsement or criticism. Sooooo, there's that.

But I did read the first ~30 pages and skimmed the rest.

lol @ alternet and journalist used in the same sentence.:lmao:lmao

Alternet wouldn't recognize a journalist if one bit them on the ass. http://homerecording.com/bbs/images/smilies/facepalm.gif

[DarkReign]

lol @ alternet and journalist used in the same sentence.:lmao:lmao

Alternet wouldn't recognize a journalist if one bit them on the ass. http://homerecording.com/bbs/images/smilies/facepalm.gif

I have no idea what alternet is or isnt, just simply pointing out the obvious deficiency in the article posted.

[TeyshaBlue]

I have no idea what alternet is or isnt, just simply pointing out the obvious deficiency in the article posted.

alternet and deficiency are synonymous.

[DarkReign]

alternet and deficiency are synonymous.

lol. Fair enough then.

[boutons_deux]

One Day After RNC Calls For Minority Outreach, Arkansas GOP Passes Bill To Suppress Minority Vote (http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2013/03/20/1749121/one-day-after-rnc-calls-for-minority-outreach-arkansas-gop-passes-bill-to-suppress-minority-vote/)Yesterday, the Arkansas Senate passed — on an entirely party-line vote (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/19/arkansas-voter-id-bill_n_2911885.html) — a so-called voter ID law requiring voters to show photo identification before they can cast a ballot.

http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2013/03/20/1749121/one-day-after-rnc-calls-for-minority-outreach-arkansas-gop-passes-bill-to-suppress-minority-vote/

Bishop Gecko lost because of MASSIVE VOTER FRAUD in blue states. :lol

[baseline bum]

alternet and deficiency are synonymous.

LOL, so boutons goes with a thinkprogress spam next

[CosmicCowboy]

One Day After RNC Calls For Minority Outreach, Arkansas GOP Passes Bill To Suppress Minority Vote (http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2013/03/20/1749121/one-day-after-rnc-calls-for-minority-outreach-arkansas-gop-passes-bill-to-suppress-minority-vote/)Yesterday, the Arkansas Senate passed — on an entirely party-line vote (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/19/arkansas-voter-id-bill_n_2911885.html) — a so-called voter ID law requiring voters to show photo identification before they can cast a ballot.

http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2013/03/20/1749121/one-day-after-rnc-calls-for-minority-outreach-arkansas-gop-passes-bill-to-suppress-minority-vote/

Bishop Gecko lost because of MASSIVE VOTER FRAUD in blue states. :lol

I used a highly complicated and sophisticated equation that revealed for the first time that there are at least 253,000 cases of voter fraud a year.

[Trainwreck2100]

Getting shitcanned on women's rights :lol lost em two senate seats. :lol Tricked into talking about rape

[Nbadan]

Republican National Committee Chairman Reince Priebus on Wednesday continued his effort to reach out to minorities and women voters by suggesting that his party had failed to win over “cultural” and “emotional” voters in 2012.

During an interview on MSNBC, guest host Luke Russert gave Priebus an opportunity to explain how the GOP could change its image if it continued to put forward budgets like the one recently offered by Rep. Paul Ryan (R-WI), which could give millionaires a $200,000 tax cut, according to Citizens for Tax Justice.

“Look, we’re not losing the issues on the math,” the RNC chairman insisted. “We’re not losing the issues on spending and debt and jobs and the economy. Those are total winners for us. :lol But what we found in the election is that while we’re winning those arguments on spending and math, we’re losing this sort of emotional/cultural vote out there in presidential elections.”

Russert noted that former Republican Party chairman Michael Steele had recently criticized Priebus for claiming the party was reaching out to African-Americans while pushing policies like voter photo ID that tend to suppress black voters.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/03/20/priebus-obama-won-women-because-republicans-lost-the-emotional-

Recent GOP presidents ran up and kept deficits, every last one of them, and the 2013 edition of the Republican Party keeps proposing budgets that are wholly in the realm of fantasy, based both on the math and the policy.

[Wild Cobra]

One Day After RNC Calls For Minority Outreach, Arkansas GOP Passes Bill To Suppress Minority Vote (http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2013/03/20/1749121/one-day-after-rnc-calls-for-minority-outreach-arkansas-gop-passes-bill-to-suppress-minority-vote/)Yesterday, the Arkansas Senate passed — on an entirely party-line vote (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/19/arkansas-voter-id-bill_n_2911885.html) — a so-called voter ID law requiring voters to show photo identification before they can cast a ballot.

http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2013/03/20/1749121/one-day-after-rnc-calls-for-minority-outreach-arkansas-gop-passes-bill-to-suppress-minority-vote/

Bishop Gecko lost because of MASSIVE VOTER FRAUD in blue states. :lol
Are you suggesting that only minorities would be affected?

Evidence please.

[boutons_deux]

Are you suggesting that only minorities would be affected?

Evidence please.

Mainly, yes, which is presicsely why Repugs/ALEC/VRWC push voter suppression hard, even in deep red states where their voter suppression and gerrymandering has given them mostly unassailble control already to turn those states into undemocratic autocracies.

[Winehole23]

Are you suggesting that only minorities would be affected?besides minorities, the Brennan Center study on the probable effect of voter ID laws mentions the elderly, the sick, the impoverished and rural citizens.

http://www.brennancenter.org/analysis/voter-id

[Wild Cobra]

besides minorities, the Brennan Center study on the probable effect of voter ID laws mentions the elderly, the sick, the impoverished and rural citizens.

http://www.brennancenter.org/analysis/voter-id
So...

You agree, it's not just minorities.

[Winehole23]

lots of other people besides, yes

[Winehole23]

you want to screw them all too?

[TeyshaBlue]

So...

You agree, it's not just minorities.

So you agree it causes problems for those other than minorities?

[TeyshaBlue]

Oh crap...WH!

[Wild Cobra]

So you agree it causes problems for those other than minorities?
Does it? Is that argument valid? If problems are cause, I am pointing out that it isn't a racist thing.

[boutons_deux]

Does it? Is that argument valid? If problems are cause, I am pointing out that it isn't a racist thing.

you're pointing out nothing

Repugs/ALEC are targeting Dem voters: blacks, hispanics, sick, old, poor, young, etc.

Your position on this is about as rational as your defense of drunk raping and drunk driving

[TeyshaBlue]

Does it? Is that argument valid? If problems are cause, I am pointing out that it isn't a racist thing.

It's a shot gun fired into a crowd to kill a perceived problem. Unfortunately:
a. The problem doesn't exist
b. The solution kills alot of bystanders.

[exstatic]

uh oh, the Repug party's thought dictator ain't happy

Limbaugh: GOP’s ‘Autopsy’ Is Wrong

Rush Limbaugh blasted the Republican Party for saying in a new report that conservatives were “narrow-minded” and “out of touch.”

The Republican National Committee released earlier on Monday an “autopsy” of its 2012 election failures and pinned the blame on the party being out of touch with voters, particularly minorities.

Limbaugh said the opposite was true. “We are in touch with the founding of this country. We are in touch with the greatness in this country and its people,” the popular radio commentator said, according to Politico.

Limbaugh said that if the party moves away from championing values, such as traditional marriage, it will lose support among its base.

“If the party makes that [gay marriage] something official that they support, they’re not going to pull the homosexual activist voters away from the Democrat Party, but they are going to cause their base to stay home and throw their hands up in utter frustration,” Limbaugh said.

Limbaugh said it was party leaders who were out of touch with its own base. “Whether they like it or not, the Republican Party’s base is sufficiently large that they cannot do without them and their problem is they don’t like them. It really isn’t any more complicated than that.”

http://www.newsmax.com/Newswidget/limbaugh-gop-autopsy-conservatives/2013/03/18/id/495240?promo_code=12289-1&utm_source=12289Raw_Story&utm_medium=nmwidget&utm_campaign=widgetphase1

Works at the national level, but at the Repug (Confederate) state level, with insane gerrymandering and voter suppression, Repugs are ACTUALLY doing wonderfully.

"their problem is they don’t like them." never have never will. As dubya said to NAACP: "I value the black vote" (not black people). Repugs are the party of the 1% suckering in single-issue, ignorant bubbas with the their social issues and "Christian" hating.

No, Rush, you're not gong to pull the "homosexual activists" away from the Dems any more than the Dems are going to pull the Religious Right away from the GOP. Guess what, Rush? They're not the only ones who support gay marriage. It's become a centrist issue, and it's keeping you from getting a lot of middle of the road votes. THEY'RE the ones you can get by softening your stance.

[Nbadan]

t's become a centrist issue, and it's keeping you from getting a lot of middle of the road votes. THEY'RE the ones you can get by softening your stance.

Bammmm....the controlled assault gun issue is a middle of the road issue too, but the NRA and NGA, extremists groups, think it's the other way around...

[boutons_deux]

The G.O.P.'s Bachmann Problem

The current intramural squabbling on the right is just too delicious for words. At least for nice words.

Senator John McCain called the far-right darlings Senator Rand Paul, Senator Ted Cruz and Representative Justin Amash "wacko birds" earlier this month. (McCain later apologized for that burst of honesty and candor.)

Ann Coulter used her Conservative Political Action Conference speech to take a shot at New Jersey's governor, Chris Christie, who was not invited to speak this year. Coulter quipped: "Even CPAC had to cut back on its speakers this year, by about 300 pounds." What a lovely woman.

Also at CPAC, the half-term ex-governor of Alaska, Sarah Palin, took a whack at Karl Rove, challenging him to run for office himself. "Buck up or stay in the truck," she said with her usual Shakespearean eloquence. Rove shot back that if he were to run and win, he'd at least finish his term. Ouch.

Donald Trump took to Twitter recently to call the conservative blogger Michelle Malkin a "dummy" who was "born stupid." It's hard to know whom to side with when two bullies battle.

But all this name-calling, as fun as it is to watch, is just a sideshow. The main show is the underlying agitation.

The Republican Party is experiencing an existential crisis, born of its own misguided incongruity with modern American culture and its insistence on choosing intransigence in a dynamic age of fundamental change. Instead of turning away from obsolescence, it is charging headlong into it, becoming more strident and pushing away more voters whom it could otherwise win.

Andrew Kohut, the founding director of the Pew Research Center, pointed out in The Washington Post on Friday that the party's ratings "now stand at a 20-year low," and that is in part because "the outsize influence of hard-line elements in the party base is doing to the G.O.P. what supporters of Gene McCarthy and George McGovern did to the Democratic Party in the late 1960s and early 1970s - radicalizing its image and standing in the way of its revitalization."

And too many of those hard-liners have a near-allergic reaction to the truth.

A prime example is Michele Bachmann, the person who convened the Tea Party Caucus in Congress and a Republican candidate for president last year.

She burst back on the scene with a string of lies and half-truths that could have drawn a tsk tsk from Tom Sawyer.

PolitiFact rated two of her claims during her CPAC speech last Saturday as "pants on fire" false. The first was that 70 cents of every dollar that's supposed to go to the poor actually goes to salaries and pensions of bureaucrats. The second was that scientists could have a cure for Alzheimer's in 10 years if it were not for "a cadre of overzealous regulators, excessive taxation and greedy litigators."

She also said during that speech that President Obama was living "a lifestyle that is one of excess" in the White House, detailing how many chefs he had, and so on.

The Washington Post gave that claim four Pinocchios, and pointed out that "during last year's G.O.P. presidential race, Bachmann racked up the highest ratio of Four-Pinocchio comments, so just about everything she says needs to be checked and double-checked before it is reported."

And in a speech Thursday on the House floor, she said of the federal health care law:

"The American people, especially vulnerable women, vulnerable children, vulnerable senior citizens, now get to pay more and they get less. That's why we're here, because we're saying let's repeal this failure before it literally kills women, kills children, kills senior citizens."

Factcheck.org pointed out that her "facts" didn't match her hyperbole.

Last year The Washington Post quoted Jim Drinkard, who oversees fact-checking at The Associated Press, as saying, "We had to have a self-imposed Michele Bachmann quota in some of those debates."

It's sad when you are so fact-challenged that you burn out the fact-checkers.

People like Bachmann represent everything that is wrong with the Republican Party. She and her colleagues are hyperbolic, reactionary, ill-informed and ill-intentioned, and they have become synonymous with the Republican brand. We don't need all politicians to be Mensa-worthy, but we do expect them to be cogent and competent.

When all the dust settles from the current dustup within the party over who holds the mantle and which direction to take, Republicans will still be left with the problem of what to do with people like Bachmann.

And as long as the party has Bachmanns, it has a problem.

http://mobile.nytimes.com/article;jsessionid=65DC96A42A2D82C07116FB72705232B 6?a=1041120&f=28&sub=Columnist

[TSA]

Bammmm....the controlled assault gun issue is a middle of the road issue too, but the NRA and NGA, extremists groups, think it's the other way around...
No, we just think you're a moron.


"An assault gun is a gun or howitzer mounted on a motor vehicle or armored chassis, designed for use in the direct fire role in support of infantry when attacking other infantry or fortified positions"

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Yay more semantic arguments and talking about people.


Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people.

[Winehole23]

^^^ seems more a slap at people than a comment about ideas or events, tbh

[boutons_deux]

Read aloud deadpan at a comedy club, the RNC’s nearly hundred-page report, a.k.a its “Growth and Opportunity Project,” would be surefire stand-up material. With its talk of “Group Listening Sessions” and its call for an “Inclusion Council,” it reads like a Maoist reeducation plan, or perhaps a liberal affirmative-action treatise.

There’s talk of hiring Hispanic and African-American “communications directors and political directors” and of finding “female spokespeople” to explain the party’s views to America’s female people.

(Women “represent more than half the voting population in the country” is one of the report’s believe-it-or-not revelations.)

We’re also informed that “America looks different” than it used to in the good old days and that “Obama was seen as ‘cool’” in 2008. Who’d have thunk it?

To help counter these weird developments, the party chairman, Reince Priebus, announced that he wants “to hold Hackathons in tech-savvy cities like San Francisco, Austin, Denver, and New York — to forge relationships with developers and stay on the cutting edge.” (Could he not find a single red hackathon-worthy city?)

Perhaps what’s most revealing about the report, however, is that it has already exacerbated the divide between the Republican Establishment, exemplified by Priebus and the report co-author Ari Fleischer, and the party’s base.

The text virtually ignores the party’s Congressional leadership, the Christian right, and the tea party, while repeatedly praising George W. Bush as a Republican role model.

No wonder the grassroots right is already ridiculing Priebus’s project more venomously than the mostly amused Democrats.

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2013/03/frank-rich-how-iraq-wounded-america.html

lipstick on a pig

[boutons_deux]

More Repug reachout to Hispanics:

GOP Congressman Refuses To Apologize For Calling Latinos ‘Wetbacks’ (http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2013/03/29/1793271/don-young-latino-wetbacks/)
“During a sit down interview with Ketchikan Public Radio this week, I used a term that was commonly used during my days growing up on a farm in Central California,” Young said in the statement. “I know that this term is not used in the same way nowadays and I meant no disrespect.”

Such outreach has had little success so far, and the GOP is still plagued by racial inhospitality (http://www.buzzfeed.com/mckaycoppins/a-very-white-republican-leadership-plans-minority-outreach).

http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2013/03/29/1793271/don-young-latino-wetbacks/

[symple19]

Frankly, I think more and more people are coming around to the realization that neither party wants to (or even can?) change the status quo when it comes to the few interests that control a large part of the economy. Banks will keep on being too big to fail, too big to prosecute, large multinationals will keep on outsourcing or outright replacing workers with automation to please Wall Street, the MIC will keep milking the government for every penny they have, etc etc etc.

Guys like Bernanke that walked into the Fed with Bush and still remains with Barry is a great example of 'meet the new boss, same as the old boss'.

IMO, people in general are quite skeptic of *any* claims from *any* party at this point when it comes to the economy, supply side, stimulus, and any other theory making the rounds. Ultimately, you get the impression that you, the citizen, are gonna get screwed regardless, and the few up top will get the cozy deals. Happened with the TARP, Obamacare, etc. and I think it's a large part of why people overall hate Congress, no matter the party.

As far as the GOP is concerned, IMO, they need to go away from stupid generalizations and dumbed down messages (like comparing the US economy with a household economy), and evolve a bit on social issues. Not full blown 'we love abortions', but at least weed out morons like Akin from the party. That'd be a good start.

The 2016 election is the GOPs to lose, IMO. But we've just seen that if they try hard enough, they lose it.

Great post

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After RNC Calls For Hispanic Outreach, (Confederate) Republican Governor Eliminates Latino Affairs Office

The Republican National Committee devoted much of the attention of its “autopsy” report to improving party outreach to people of color. The report noted it is “imperative that the RNC changes how it engages with Hispanic communities to welcome in new members of our Party.” Yet, if the autopsy report had any effect at all, it appears to be short-lived. Since last week, top Republicans have dodged discussing immigration reform with citizenship, while one congressman used a racial slur to describe Latinos.


North Carolina Gov. Pat McCrory’s (R) contribution to this effort is to unexpectedly close the state’s Latino Affairs office, an office that normally engaged with Latino leaders on policy, offfered bilingual assistance for disaster victims, and collected demographic statistics on the state’s 800,000 Latino residents

http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2013/03/29/1794901/republican-latino-outreach/

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New Hampshire Republican refers to women as “vaginas” in email to lawmakers (http://www.salon.com/2013/04/17/new_hampshire_republican_refers_to_women_as_vagina s_in_email_to_lawmakers/)New Hampshire State Rep. Peter Hansen referred to women as “vaginas” in an email to colleagues (http://susanthebruce.blogspot.com/2013/04/vaginas-and-children-first.html?spref=tw&m=1) sent on the legislature’s official internal listserv. In response to a message debating a “stand your ground” measure being considered by the State House, the Republican lawmaker wrote:


What could possibly be missing from those factual tales of successful retreat in VT, Germany, and the bowels of Amsterdam? Why children and vagina’s of course. While the tales relate the actions of a solitary male the outcome cannot relate to similar situations where children and women and mothers are the potential victims.

Hansen’s use of synecdoche outraged his Democratic and Republican colleagues, prompting Democratice State Rep. Rick Watrous to respond:


“Children and vagina’s”??!! Are you really using “vaginas” as a crude catch-all for women? Really? Please think before you send out such offensive language on the legislative listserve.


http://www.salon.com/2013/04/17/new_hampshire_republican_refers_to_women_as_vagina s_in_email_to_lawmakers/

:lol

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lol

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Repug reachout to non-Ingles speakers continues wonderfully :lol

Florida Republicans Push Legislation Targeting Non-English Speaking Voters (http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2013/04/18/1880181/florida-foreign-language-voting/)


The architect of the new elections bill, Sen. Jack Latvala, R-St. Petersburg, said his measure would not ban interpreters, but would limit those who use foreign-language speakers for partisan ends. . . .

“What it does away with,” he said, “is the right of someone to stand outside a polling place and say: ‘I want to go in and help you because I’m here.’

It limits one person being able to do that 10 times a day.”

But that’s a major change, says Braynon and liberal-leaning election-rights groups.

If a person can provide assistance to only 10 people, then certain precincts could have required as many as 50 interpreters during the 2012 elections, Braynon said.

“We had trouble finding five people to help interpret,” he said.

http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2013/04/18/1880181/florida-foreign-language-voting/

[BobaFett1]

Repug reachout to non-Ingles speakers continues wonderfully :lol

Florida Republicans Push Legislation Targeting Non-English Speaking Voters (http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2013/04/18/1880181/florida-foreign-language-voting/)


The architect of the new elections bill, Sen. Jack Latvala, R-St. Petersburg, said his measure would not ban interpreters, but would limit those who use foreign-language speakers for partisan ends. . . .

“What it does away with,” he said, “is the right of someone to stand outside a polling place and say: ‘I want to go in and help you because I’m here.’

It limits one person being able to do that 10 times a day.”

But that’s a major change, says Braynon and liberal-leaning election-rights groups.

If a person can provide assistance to only 10 people, then certain precincts could have required as many as 50 interpreters during the 2012 elections, Braynon said.

“We had trouble finding five people to help interpret,” he said.

http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2013/04/18/1880181/florida-foreign-language-voting/







You have a sickness and need help.

[RandomGuy]

Repug reachout to non-Ingles speakers continues wonderfully :lol

Florida Republicans Push Legislation Targeting Non-English Speaking Voters (http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2013/04/18/1880181/florida-foreign-language-voting/)


The architect of the new elections bill, Sen. Jack Latvala, R-St. Petersburg, said his measure would not ban interpreters, but would limit those who use foreign-language speakers for partisan ends. . . .

“What it does away with,” he said, “is the right of someone to stand outside a polling place and say: ‘I want to go in and help you because I’m here.’

It limits one person being able to do that 10 times a day.”

But that’s a major change, says Braynon and liberal-leaning election-rights groups.

If a person can provide assistance to only 10 people, then certain precincts could have required as many as 50 interpreters during the 2012 elections, Braynon said.

“We had trouble finding five people to help interpret,” he said.

http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2013/04/18/1880181/florida-foreign-language-voting/




I would not take any Republican at their word on such a thing at this point.

It would seem they are reaping the whirlwind from their Southern Strategy.


Although the phrase "Southern strategy" is often attributed to Nixon's political strategist Kevin Phillips, he did not originate it,[9] but merely popularized it.[10] In an interview included in a 1970 New York Times article, he touched on its essence:

From now on, the Republicans are never going to get more than 10 to 20 percent of the Negro vote and they don't need any more than that...but Republicans would be shortsighted if they weakened enforcement of the Voting Rights Act. The more Negroes who register as Democrats in the South, the sooner the Negrophobe whites will quit the Democrats and become Republicans. That's where the votes are. Without that prodding from the blacks, the whites will backslide into their old comfortable arrangement with the local Democrats.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_strategy

Ish.

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You have a sickness and need help.

when I bitch slap, or rather Repugs/tea baggers bitch slap themselves, you righties gotta work on your defenses. :lol

[BobaFett1]

when I bitch slap, or rather Repugs/tea baggers bitch slap themselves, you righties gotta work on your defenses. :lol

I am not a righty.:lol Maybe if you read some of my statements you would pick that up. I like to rid DC of left and right. Both are most corrupt sob's.

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GOP Immigration Guru Insists DREAMers Should Self-Deport (http://thinkprogress.org/immigration/2013/04/22/1904121/gop-immigration-guru-insists-dreamers-should-self-deport/)On Monday, Sen. Dick Durbin (D-IL), a long-time advocate of the DREAM Act, strongly rebuked a GOP witness for opposing a pathway to citizenship for young immigrants brought into the country illegally by their parents. The witness, Kansas Secretary of State Kris Kobach, rose to prominence for advising Mitt Romney’s “self-deportation” immigration policy during the 2012 presidential campaign and is the architect of both Arizona’s infamous “show your papers” law (SB 1070) and the Republican Party’s harsh immigration platform.


Speaking at the Senate Judiciary Committee’s hearing, Kobach insisted that DREAM eligible applicants, many of whom have lived in the United States for most of their lives, should not be rewarded for the “sins of their parents.” Instead, DREAMers should go back to their parents’ country of origin, Kobach said, and “get in line with the rest of their countrymen.”

“That just defies basic compassion,” Durbin shot back, pointing to to Gabby Pacheco (http://www.judiciary.senate.gov/pdf/04-22-13PachecoTestimony.pdf), an undocumented immigrant brought to America at the age of eight from Ecuador, who was testifying alongside Kobach. “She’s never known any other country,” Durbin explained, “this is her home.”



Kobach responded by reviving self-deportation, arguing that “if you ratchet up the penalties for violating the law, people choose to leave.”

http://thinkprogress.org/immigration/2013/04/22/1904121/gop-immigration-guru-insists-dreamers-should-self-deport/



"We're STILL in Kansas, bozo"

Repugs simply can't help themselves

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Conservative Group Photoshops Black Woman's Face Out of Photo in Anti-Voting Rights Mailer
http://www.alternet.org/files/styles/story_image/public/hackstaffaltered.jpg


http://www.alternet.org/tea-party-and-right/conservative-group-photoshops-black-womans-face-out-photo-anti-voting-rights?akid=10361.187590.cKsi3Y&rd=1&src=newsletter830073&t=7

:lol

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The 11 Most Heartless Republican Amendments To The Immigration Bill (http://thinkprogress.org/immigration/2013/05/08/1972011/the-11-most-heartless-republican-amendments-to-the-immigration-bill/)
1. Undocumented immigrants can never become citizens. “No person who is or has previously been willfully present in the United States will [sic] not in lawful status…shall be eligible for United States citizenship.” Offered by Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX). (http://www.judiciary.senate.gov/legislation/immigration/amendments/Cruz/Cruz3-%28DAV13373%29.pdf)

2. Mandatory DNA testing. Registered provisional immigrant applicants must submit a DNA sample to the Department of Justice to compare against the Combined DNA Index System (CODIS) at the FBI. Offered by Sen. Orrin Hatch (R-UT) (http://www.judiciary.senate.gov/legislation/immigration/amendments/Hatch/Hatch3-%28MDM13476%29.pdf).

3. Zero assistance. Would prohibit undocumented immigrants who earn provisional legal status from applying for permanent residence if they qualify for state means-tested assistance, the supplemental nutrition assistance program (SNAP), the temporary assistance for needy families program (TANF), or supplemental security income benefits (SSI). Offered by Sen. Jeff Sessions (R-AL) (http://www.judiciary.senate.gov/legislation/immigration/amendments/Sessions/Sessions17-%28ARM13553%29.pdf).

4. Bans humanitarian travel. Immigrants who are in provisional legal status but have to go back to their home countries for a humanitarian reason (to visit a sick relative, for instance) would be prohibited from re-entering the United States. Currently, the provisional legal status includes an authorization for travel.Offered by Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-IA) (http://www.judiciary.senate.gov/legislation/immigration/amendments/Grassley/Grassley15-%28EAS13381%29.pdf).

5. Guts family re-unification. The green card distribution for some foreigners relies on a point allocation system in which a certain number of points must be accumulated before those individuals can qualify for a merit-based visa. This amendment would eliminate points for siblings of U.S. citizens and points for individuals from low-sending countries from counting towards merit-based immigrant visas. Offered by Sen. Jeff Sessions (R-AL) (http://www.judiciary.senate.gov/legislation/immigration/amendments/Sessions/Sessions48-%28MDM13428%29.pdf).

6. In-person interviews for 11 million immigrants. Sure to slow down the process time for 11 million immigrants, an in-person interview would be required to determine one’s eligibility requirements for provisional legal status. Offered by Sen. Jeff Sessions (R-AL) (http://www.judiciary.senate.gov/legislation/immigration/amendments/Sessions/Sessions20-%28MDM13338%29.pdf).

7. Limits visas to South Korea. In an effort to force South Koreans to buy beef from the United States again, this amendment threatens to withhold E-5 visas from South Korea immigrants until the country removes its age-based import restrictions on beef. Offered by Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-IA) (http://www.judiciary.senate.gov/legislation/immigration/amendments/Grassley/Grassley70-%28MDM13420%29.pdf).

8. Enforces head-of-household deportation and causes family separations. Under the current bill, immigration judges have the authority to decline to deport individuals if they believe that the immigrant’s removal will result in hardship for his or her U.S. citizen child. This amendment would waive this judicial discretion and allow the deportation to occur. Offered by Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-IA) (http://www.judiciary.senate.gov/legislation/immigration/amendments/Grassley/Grassley21-%28ARM13468%29.pdf).

9. Prevents low-income undocumented immigrants from seeking legalization. The amendment would require individuals applying for provisional legal status to maintain regular employment and a “regular income or resources” above 400 percent of the poverty line (more than $92,000 (http://aspe.hhs.gov/poverty/13poverty.cfm#thresholds) for a family of four). Under the current bill, immigrants must earn at 100 percent of the poverty line or show regular employment. Offered by Sen. Jeff Sessions (R-AL) (http://www.judiciary.senate.gov/legislation/immigration/amendments/Sessions/Sessions29-%28KER13175%29.pdf).

10. Restricts visas for refugees. This amendment would prohibit individuals from applying for refugee and asylum status until one year after the Director of National Intelligence submits a review related to the Boston bombings to Congress. Offered by Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-IA) (http://www.judiciary.senate.gov/legislation/immigration/amendments/Grassley/Grassley52-%28EAS13415%29.pdf).

11. Allows for racial profiling. Would allow Federal law enforcements to take into account an individual’s country of origin when allowing them into the country. Offered by Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-IA) (http://www.judiciary.senate.gov/legislation/immigration/amendments/Grassley/Grassley49-%28MDM13414%29.pdf).

http://thinkprogress.org/immigration/2013/05/08/1972011/the-11-most-heartless-republican-amendments-to-the-immigration-bill/

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Repug/VRWC eugenics alive and well

Heritage Study Author: ‘Hispanic Immigrants Will Have Low-IQ Children’ (http://thinkprogress.org/immigration/2013/05/08/1978961/heritage-study-author-hispanic-immigrants-will-have-low-iq-children/)
Richwine’s dissertation asserts that there are deep-set differentials in intelligence between races. While it’s clear he thinks it is partly due to genetics — ‘the totality of the evidence suggests a genetic component to group differences in IQ’ — he argues the most important thing is that the differences in group IQs are persistent, for whatever reason. He writes, ‘No one knows whether Hispanics will ever reach IQ parity with whites, but the prediction that new Hispanic immigrants will have low-IQ children and grandchildren is difficult to argue against.‘

Richwine is not the only author of the Heritage report with questionable views. Robert Rector, the paper’s lead author, was the source (http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/09/mitt-romney-welfare-obama-robert-rector) for then candidate Romney’s racially charged attack on President Obama’s welfare policy (http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2012/08/07/649621/romney-ad-welfare-reform/), and has spent his career dismissing the idea that poverty hurts people. On Tuesday, Rector admitted he hadn’t read the whole immigration bill (http://thinkprogress.org/immigration/2013/05/07/1974561/author-of-heritage-immigration-study-admits-he-has-not-examined-the-whole-bill/) before coauthoring his analysis of it with Richwine.

http://thinkprogress.org/immigration/2013/05/08/1978961/heritage-study-author-hispanic-immigrants-will-have-low-iq-children/

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GOP Director of Hispanic Outreach Quits and Becomes Democrat

When Republicans appointed Pablo Pantoja to State Director of Florida Hispanic Outreach for the Republican National Committee, they hoped he would be able to bridge the sizable gap that only expanded during the 2012 elections, when the state’s 4.7 million Hispanic voters supported Barack Obama over Mitt Romney by a 20 percent margin (http://miami.cbslocal.com/2013/05/08/hispanics-in-florida-voted-at-a-high-rate/).

But after months of inaction by Congressional Republicans on comprehensive immigration reform and stiff resistance by Republican-leaning groups like the Heritage Foundation, Pantoja has had enough; on Monday, he announced (http://thefloridanation.com/?p=555) via email that he was leaving the party and registering as a Democrat:

Friend,

Yes, I have changed my political affiliation to the Democratic Party.

It doesn’t take much to see the culture of intolerance surrounding the Republican Party today. I have wondered before about the seemingly harsh undertones about immigrants and others. Look no further; a well-known organization recently confirms the intolerance of that which seems different or strange to them.


http://www.alternet.org/gop-director-hispanic-outreach-quits-and-becomes-democrat?akid=10432.187590.tnYR7V&rd=1&src=newsletter840231&t=7 (http://www.alternet.org/gop-director-hispanic-outreach-quits-and-becomes-democrat?akid=10432.187590.tnYR7V&rd=1&src=newsletter840231&t=7)


How's That Outreach-y Working Out For Ya? :lol

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GOP sucks donkey dick, their base is uneducated, ignorant, low income, rural, old, fat, white, pissed off, "sovereign", militiamen, gun fellating, chauvinistic, xenophobic, homophobic "Christian" assholes


Ten Brutal Findings from the Republican Party's Report on Young Voters

1. "Young 'winnable' Obama voters were asked to say what words came to mind when they heard 'Republican Party.' The responses were brutal: closed-minded, racist, rigid, old-fashioned."

2. "Asked which words least described the GOP, respondents gravitated toward 'open-minded' (35%), 'tolerant' (25%), 'caring' (22%), and 'cooperative' (21%)."

3. "For the GOP, being thought of as closed-minded is hardly a good thing. But if the GOP is thought of as the 'stupid party,' it may as well be the kiss of death."

4. "A Hispanic voter in the San Diego focus group harshly laid out how she thought Republicans viewed social mobility for immigrants: '[They have] that mentality that you're born like royalty and the peasants stay peasants.'"

5. "An outright majority of young people still think those Republican policies are to blame [for the Great Recession] – hardly an encouraging finding."

6. "If young voters primarily thought the Republican Party's policy plan in 2012 was to prevent gay marriage and to ensure very low taxes for very rich people . . . it's understandable that a large majority voted the other way. . . . Opposition to gay marriage is a 'deal breaker' to one out of four young voters."

7. "Our focus on taxation and business issues has left many young voters thinking they will only reap the benefits of Republican policies if they become wealthy or rise to the top of a big business. We've become the party that will pat you on your back when you make it, but won't offer a hand to help you get there."

8. "Perhaps most troubling for Republicans is the finding from the March 2013 CRNC survey that showed 54% of young voters saying 'taxes should go up on the wealthy.'"

9. "When asked if they thought any Republican policies were making them personally worse off, one replied, 'Arizona comes to mind, all the laws that they've passed there regarding immigration and being allowed to pull somebody over just based on how they look.'"

10. "It is not that young voters are enamored of the Democratic Party. They simply dislike the Republican Party more."

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/ten-brutal-findings-from-the-republican-partys-report-on-young-voters-20130604

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11 GOP Positions Loathed by Young People -- According to College GOP Report

The College Republican National Committee released a report on Monday outlining the major challenges facing the GOP as it seeks to rebrand and redefine itself in the aftermath of the 2012 election. The survey criticizes the party’s singular focus on “big government” and “tax cuts” and calls on Republicans to become more tolerant and open on issues like same-sex marriage and women’s reproductive health.

But a close reading of the 90-page report (http://images.skem1.com/client_id_32089/Grand_Old_Party_for_a_Brand_New_Generation.pdf) finds that young people have strong disagreements with Republican policies
1. GOP economic polices are to blame for the recession. “Although ‘Republican economic policies’ is the factor least likely to be viewed as playing a major role in causing the crisis, this is mostly due to young Republicans in the sample hesitating to pin blame directly on their own party, and an outright majority of young people still think those Republican policies are to blame – hardly an encouraging finding.”

2. Lower taxes will not create jobs.” In the August 2012 XG survey, there was not a strong consensus around the virtues of lowering taxes and regulations on business. Only 34% of respondents in that survey thought they’d be better off if the corporate tax rate were lowered, and only 36% thought such a move would make it easier for young people to get jobs.”

3. Increase taxes on the wealthy. “Perhaps most troubling for Republicans is the finding from the March 2013 CRNC survey that showed 54% of young voters saying ‘taxes should go up on the wealthy,’ versus 31% who say “taxes should be cut for everyone.”

4. End the attacks on women’s reproductive health. “[T]he issue of protecting life has been conflated with issues around the definition of rape, funding for Planned Parenthood, and even contraception. In the words of one female participant in our Hispanic voter focus group in Orlando, “I think Romney wanted to cut Planned Parenthood. And he supports policies where it would make it harder for a woman to get an abortion should she choose, even if it were medically necessary. That goes head in hand with redefining rape.”

5. Expand universal health care coverage. “Many of the young people in our focus groups noted that they thought everyone in America should have access to health coverage. In the Spring 2012 Harvard Institute of Politics survey of young voters, 44% said that “basic health insurance is a right for all people, and if someone has no means of paying for it, the government should provide it.” … As one participant in our focus group of young men in Columbus put it, “at least Obama was making strides to start the process of reforming health care.”

6. Provide comprehensive immigration reform. “The position taken most frequently by young voters was that “illegal immigrants should have a path to earn citizenship,” chosen by 35% of respondents… Some 19% chose “illegal immigrants should be deported or put in jail for breaking the law,” while another 17% took the position that “illegal immigrants should have a path to legal status but not citizenship.”

7. Cut the defense budget first. “Indeed, a large number of respondents pointed to the defense budget as the place where cuts should start. In the survey, 35% of respondents thought that “we should have a smaller defense budget and leaner military,” including 49% of young independents.”

8. Democrats are more responsive on student loans. “Many focus group members did think that Democrats were responding to the student loan crisis. “I think they’re more in tune to what we need right now with student loans, getting a job, fixing the housing market and the environment,” observed one participant from Orlando, with another adding that he had “heard Obama once say, oh, he has student loans, he went to school, he knows what we’re going through.”

9. Climate change is real. “Ultimately, while voters may say they are concerned about climate change, they rarely list it among the issues on the top of their minds.”

10. Bush’s wars blew up the deficit. “The wars in Iraq and Afghanistan themselves, however, were largely viewed as having been a net negative for the U.S. In fact, during focus group discussions about the recession, one respondent said she felt that the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan had contributed in part to the economic crisis.”

11. Marriage equality for all. “Surveys have consistently shown that gay marriage is not as important an issue as jobs and the economy to young voters. Yet it was unmistakable in the focus groups that gay marriage was a reason many of these young voters disliked the GOP.”

http://www.alternet.org/gop?akid=10516.187590.2zgp2R&rd=1&src=newsletter849631&t=7&paging=off

so the Repugs continue to lose the young, women, blacks, LGBT, Hispanics, Repugs being left with rural white fat ignorant old bubbas.

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House Republicans Booed As They Vote To Deport DREAMers (http://thinkprogress.org/immigration/2013/06/06/2114081/house-republicans-booed-as-they-vote-to-deport-dreamers/)

To a chorus of boos from the gallery, House Republicans voted 224-201 on Thursday to approve an amendment that defunds (http://thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/house/303869-house-votes-to-defund-obamas-administrative-amnesty-for-immigrants) the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program. The amendment, from Rep. Steve King (R-IA), undercuts the flexibility that allows the Department of Homeland Security to halt deporting DREAMers and instead focus on people convicted of crimes.


After the vote, the House Hispanic Caucus tweeted (https://twitter.com/HispanicCaucus/status/342654361396195328),”House Republicans just voted to treat DREAMers and undocumented spouses of servicemembers in the same way as violent criminals.” Only six Republicans (http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2013/roll208.xml) voted against the measure.

http://thinkprogress.org/immigration/2013/06/06/2114081/house-republicans-booed-as-they-vote-to-deport-dreamers/

Hispanics HEART Repugs :lol

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New Data Confirm The Democratic Presidential Majority Is Here To Stay (http://thinkprogress.org/election/2013/06/06/2089331/new-data-confirms-the-democratic-presidential-majority-is-here-to-stay/)
Democrats have made great strides on the electoral map since 1988. They have established firm bases of support on both coasts, more than held their own in the battleground states of the industrial Midwest, and made inroads into Republican terrain in the South and the Mountain West. But the Democratic vote share has not increased everywhere since 1988, when Michael Dukakis lost the popular vote 53.4% to 45.6% to Republican George H.W. Bush. In a total of 19 states, Dukakis drew a larger share of the vote in 1988 than the victorious Barack Obama did in 2012. These states were predominantly rural in complexion and scattered about the country — in Appalachia, the South and border South, the upper Midwest, the Plains states and the Mountain West.

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http://thinkprogress.org/election/2013/06/06/2089331/new-data-confirms-the-democratic-presidential-majority-is-here-to-stay/

Repugs know they're fucked, so Repug-controlled states install voter suppression and ridiculous gerrymandering.

[TeyshaBlue]

:cheer :cheer :cheer :cheer

http://homerecording.com/bbs/images/smilies/facepalm.gif

[RandomGuy]

New Data Confirm The Democratic Presidential Majority Is Here To Stay (http://thinkprogress.org/election/2013/06/06/2089331/new-data-confirms-the-democratic-presidential-majority-is-here-to-stay/)
Democrats have made great strides on the electoral map since 1988. They have established firm bases of support on both coasts, more than held their own in the battleground states of the industrial Midwest, and made inroads into Republican terrain in the South and the Mountain West. But the Democratic vote share has not increased everywhere since 1988, when Michael Dukakis lost the popular vote 53.4% to 45.6% to Republican George H.W. Bush. In a total of 19 states, Dukakis drew a larger share of the vote in 1988 than the victorious Barack Obama did in 2012. These states were predominantly rural in complexion and scattered about the country — in Appalachia, the South and border South, the upper Midwest, the Plains states and the Mountain West.

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http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/county-change.png

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http://thinkprogress.org/election/2013/06/06/2089331/new-data-confirms-the-democratic-presidential-majority-is-here-to-stay/

Repugs know they're fucked, so Repug-controlled states install voter suppression and ridiculous gerrymandering.

What should worry them:

Texas electoral college votes: 38
California electoral college votes: 55
New York: 29

Total: 122

Needed to win presidency: 270

45% of the presidency is these three states.

The only reason that the Democratic party hasn't won in Texas is that they haven't developed the infrastrcture, but they are really working on fixing that. The demographics make it outright inevitable that Texas swings blue, sometime in the next 10-15 years.

That will come as a deep shock to those residing in the Fox "news" information bubble. I expect violence at some point by the really disillusioned nutters.

[TeyshaBlue]

Pssst. Cycles. Look it up.

The study that thinkprogress cherry picked from makes mention of this. Doesn't really fit the TP narrative tho, so it was left out.

[boutons_deux]

Massachusetts Senate Candidate Loses Women’s Support As He Flounders On Reproductive Health Issues (http://thinkprogress.org/health/2013/06/07/2118701/gomez-womens-health-lose-support/)
Gabriel Gomez, the Republican nominee (http://thinkprogress.org/election/2013/05/07/1975921/republican-senate-nominee-gabriel-gomez-funded-wealthy-investors/) for John Kerry’s former Senate seat in Massachusetts, has been struggling to adequately articulate his positions on women’s health issues over the past several weeks. And as recent polling (http://www.wbur.org/2013/06/06/women-souring-gomez) shows, that’s not winning him any favors with the state’s female voters.

Gomez has not clarified (http://thinkprogress.org/health/2013/05/31/2083401/gomez-blunt-amendment/) whether or not he supports the Blunt Amendment, which would allow employers to deny birth control coverage from their employees for any reason. The GOP candidate has admitted he hasn’t actually read the eight-page Blunt Amendment, and one of his spokespeople recently referred to the birth control policy as “inside baseball (http://www.dscc.org/pressrelease/gabe-gomez-campaign-access-women-s-contraception-inside-baseball).” And this week, Gomez struggled to comment on abortion policy (http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/2013/06/06/gop-gomez-oppose-abortion-waiting-period/u7BSAkyUjJgiuqvfjpFYRL/story.html) — first saying that he supported requiring women to undergo a 24-hour waiting period before obtaining an abortion, and then telling reporters he would vote against such a restriction if it came up for debate in the Senate.

Voters are taking notice. According to new figures from Public Policy Polling, women’s opinions of Gomez have significantly dropped (http://www.wbur.org/2013/06/06/women-souring-gomez) over the past month. Back in the beginning of May, just after Gomez won the GOP primary, 41 percent of women viewed the candidate favorably while 24 percent viewed him unfavorably. In PPP’s most recent poll conducted at the beginning of June, just 35 percent of women had a favorable opinion of Gomez — and the number of women who viewed him unfavorably jumped to 44 percent. Altogether, that’s a 26 point shift away from the Republican candidate among this demographic.

“Women across the Commonwealth are seeing Gomez for who he really is — a pro-life Republican who can’t be trusted to protect women’s rights,” a spokesperson representing Gomez’s opponent, Rep. Ed Markey (D), said in a statement (http://www.wbur.org/2013/06/06/women-souring-gomez).

http://thinkprogress.org/health/2013/06/07/2118701/gomez-womens-health-lose-support/

Having pimped Kerry hard for State so they could go after his Senate seat, the Repugs run one of their beloved token wetbacks and still can't get traction. :lol

[boutons_deux]

Repug reachout to females going great, too, with the Repug Rape Caucus totally in retreat! :lol

More GOP Idiocy: 'The Incidence of Rape Resulting in Pregnancy Are Very Low'

. Franks is pushing a bill that would make abortion illegal after 20 weeks, and in opposing a Democratic amendment creating exceptions for rape and incest, he had this to say:

"The incidence of rape resulting in pregnancy are very low."

Actually, as we all found out after Akin's claim that "If it’s a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down," pregnancy from rape is not rare (http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/08/20/1122070/-Republican-voodoo-vaginomics-bears-little-resemblance-to-science-on-rape-and-pregnancy) at all. But Republicans like Todd Akin and Trent Franks don't really give a damn how rare or common it is for women to face an unwanted pregnancy after being raped. That's what absolutism is—there is absolutely no circumstance under which they are willing to allow a woman to decide to end a pregnancy.

Rape and incest just don't register for them.

Franks went on to echo the logic of Ron Paul's "honest rape" (http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/02/06/1062186/-Ron-Paul-okay-with-emergency-contraception-in-cases-of-honest-rape?detail=hide) comments: There shouldn't need to be a post-20 weeks rape and incest exception because (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2013/06/12/gop-congressman-rate-of-pregnancies-from-rape-is-very-low/) "when you make that exception, there’s usually a requirement to report the rape within 48 hours." So not only does he reject the facts on pregnancy and rape, he doesn't begin to get all the reasons women don't always immediately report rape.

http://www.alternet.org/more-gop-rape-nonsense

[boutons_deux]

Repug reaching out to LGBT

Rubio Says It Should Be Legal To Fire Someone For Being Gay (http://thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2013/06/13/2153451/rubio-enda/)


Though Rubio bristles at the notion of being called a "bigot (http://thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2013/03/14/1721551/rubio-denying-marriage-rights-to-gays-does-not-make-me-a-bigot/)," he showed no willingness to help protect LGBT workers from discrimination. "I'm not for any special protections based on orientation," Rubio told ThinkProgress.
KEYES: The Senate this summer is going to be taking up the Employment Non-Discrimination Act which makes it illegal to fire someone for being gay. Do you know if you'll be supporting that?

RUBIO: I haven't read the legislation. By and large I think all Americans should be protected but I'm not for any special protections based on orientation.

KEYES: What about on race or gender?

RUBIO: Well that's established law.

KEYES: But not for sexual orientation?



http://thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2013/06/13/2153451/rubio-enda/

[BobaFett1]

:lol

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I am not a righty.:lol Maybe if you read some of my statements you would pick that up. I like to rid DC of left and right. Both are most corrupt sob's.

:lol So says the guy that posts the Fox News ad nauseum. When your go to new source is Fox News that speaks louder than anything else.

[Wild Cobra]

Are you afraid of being fired boutons?

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Are you afraid of being fired boutons?

You aren't because of your union. Ironic given your views on unions.

[RandomGuy]

Pssst. Cycles. Look it up.

The study that thinkprogress cherry picked from makes mention of this. Doesn't really fit the TP narrative tho, so it was left out.

Cycles, schycles.

Demographics.


President Barack Obama won 5 million more votes than Gov. Mitt Romneyamong voters under the age of 30 in the 2012 election.

[TeyshaBlue]

Speaking of which....demographics, shmemographics.


Cycles.

http://behranalytics.blogspot.com/2013/04/demography-is-destiny.html

[boutons_deux]

Conservatives Double Down on the War on Women

The American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) fears this will be the worst year (http://www.aclu.org/enough-enough-latest-round-attacks-politicians-war-women) on record for reproductive rights, possibly worse than the previous two worst years, 2011 and 2012. The group has a map of the legislation offered and passed on the state level. Click through to see the interactive version:

http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/abortion-restrictions-e1371145315997.png

http://rhrealitycheck.org/article/2013/06/16/conservatives-double-down-on-the-war-on-women/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+rhrealitycheck+%28RH+Reality+ Check%29

:lol

[boutons_deux]

Lindsey Graham: GOP in a Death Spiral

Immigration reform sure has Republicans in a bind (http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/congress/graham-warns-fellow-republicans-without-immigration-bill-gop-to-lose-in-2016/2013/06/16/e9c5e6d2-d69f-11e2-ab72-3f0d51ec1628_story.html). After all, Sen. Lindsey Graham was not wrong when he said, on Sunday's Meet the Press, that:

"... if we don’t pass immigration reform, if we don’t get it off the table in a reasonable, practical way, it doesn’t matter who you run in 2016. We’re in a demographic death spiral as a party and the only way we can get back in good graces with the Hispanic community in my view is pass comprehensive immigration reform. If you don’t do that, it really doesn’t matter who we run in my view."

He's sure not wrong (http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/03/19/1195227/-The-GOP-s-admitted-demographic-problem) that the GOP can't continue to be the party of white men, to hell with brown people, and succeed. So you'd think it would be an obvious choice to any Republican who could read polls and demographic data. Yet Sen.

Marco Rubio demonstrates the other side of the Republican bind on immigration as he continues doing the will-he-or-won't-he dance (http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/congress/graham-warns-fellow-republicans-without-immigration-bill-gop-to-lose-in-2016/2013/06/16/e9c5e6d2-d69f-11e2-ab72-3f0d51ec1628_story.html)on the immigration reform bill he helped write.

http://www.alternet.org/gop-immigration?akid=10580.187590.UoJ0nM&rd=1&src=newsletter856428&t=15

Pass or fail imm reform, Repugs won't win Hispanic vote in 14 or 16.

[boutons_deux]

war on TX wimmen, protecting business profits

Rick Perry Vetoes Equal Pay Bill (http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2013/06/15/2164241/rick-perry-vetoes-equal-pay-bill/)

Texas Governor Rick Perry (R) vetoed a bill (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/14/rick-perry-equal-pay_n_3443591.html) on Friday that would have allowed women suffering wage discrimination to take legal action, alleging that the measure “duplicates federal law (http://governor.state.tx.us/news/veto/18661/), which already allows employees…to file a claim with the U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission.” On average, women earn 77 cents of every dollar (http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2013/01/29/1508421/ledbetter-anniversary-pay-gap/) a man makes, though the disparity is even greater for African American and Hispanic women.

Forty-two states (http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2013/05/17/2030071/how-states-are-leading-the-way-on-equal-pay-for-women/) have passed sate-based equal pay laws, recognizing that Lilly Ledbetter was not enough (http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2013/01/29/1508421/ledbetter-anniversary-pay-gap/).

http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2013/06/15/2164241/rick-perry-vetoes-equal-pay-bill/

[Homeland Security]

The GOP came to the fork in the road between conservatism and white nationalism, and chose white nationalism. That means its collapse is only a matter of time.

Debates on fiscal and economic conservatism/liberalism increasingly will be internal to the Democratic Party. It will be Democratic officeholders who demonstrate the ability to make those tough decisions.

We'll enter a decade or two of Democratic hegemony at the federal level -- probably after 2020 and the next round of redistricting. Once that happens, the progressive left increasingly will lose patience with the controlling pro-corporate moderate wing of the party and will agitate to split off on its own. Without a credible opposition party on the right, there will not be any reason for them to stick with the Democrats, so the left will form a new Progressive party.

For a while, the rump of the GOP will be able to play spoiler at a regional level, especially in the South. It will be similar to the spoiler role the Southern Democrats once held -- not surprising, since they're the exact same people. Ultimately it will disappear -- there's no point in keeping the GOP around as a minor party.

[boutons_deux]

how to win the WIMMEN VOTE:

House GOP To Vote On 20-Week Abortion Ban After Quietly Adding Exemptions For Rape And Incest

House Republicans have scheduled a vote Tuesday on legislation that would outlaw abortion after 20 weeks of pregnancy, but not before quietly carving out exemptions for cases of rape and incest (which had been defeated in committee) and sidelining the bill’s sponsor.

The legislation is likely to pass the GOP-led House and die in the Democratic-led Senate. It’s largely a messaging device to energize social conservatives whom Republicans rely on in elections. But Democrats are equally eager to cite the vote as another example of a Republican “war on women” and chip away at the party’s standing with female voters.

“But as we’ve seen recently, rebranding won’t work when the GOP holds onto the same backwards policies and loose-lipped leaders. No matter the messenger, women voters will continue to see this ban for exactly what it is — an extreme bill designed to threaten the rights and safety of women across the nation.”

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2013/06/house-vote-twenty-week-abortion-ban.php

God wants you have the rapist's or your father's/uncle's baby.

[boutons_deux]

Texas Republican Says He Wants to Ban Abortion Because ... Fetuses Masturbate?


http://www.alternet.org/files/styles/story_image/public/story_images/michael_c_burgess_112.jpg

Rep. Michael Burgess (R-TX) said that fetuses at 15-weeks “stroke their face. If they’re a male baby, they may have their hand between their legs. If they feel pleasure, why is it so hard to believe that they could feel pain?” Burgess is a former OB-GYN.

http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/masturbating-male-fetuses

[boutons_deux]

Repugs always staying classy, and running fantastically successful outreach to women. This woman is a whore pimped by Dems.

Go Repugs Go!

Illinois GOP Official Calls Black Republican Candidate A ‘Street Walker,’ ‘Love Child Of The DNC’ (http://thinkprogress.org/election/2013/06/20/2185891/gop-official-black-candidate-street-walker/)

The little queen touts her abstinence and she won the crown because she got bullied in school,,,boohoo..kids are cruel, life sucks and you move on..

Now, miss queen is being used like a street walker and her pimps are the DEMOCRAT PARTY and RINO REPUBLICANS…

These pimps want something they can’t get,,,

the seat held by a conservative REPUBLICAN Rodney Davis and Nancy Pelosi can’t stand it..

http://thinkprogress.org/election/2013/06/20/2185891/gop-official-black-candidate-street-walker/

[boutons_deux]

Why the GOP Can’t Learn

(http://robertreich.org/post/53326939792) It’s as if they didn’t learn a thing from the 2012 elections. Republicans are on the same suicide mission as before - - trying to block immigration reform (if they can’t scuttle it in the Senate, they’re ready to in the House), roll back the clock on abortion rights (they’re pushing federal and state legislation to ban abortions in the first 22 weeks), and stop gay marriage wherever possible.

As almost everyone knows by now, this puts them the wrong side of history. America is becoming more ethnically diverse, women are gaining economic and political power, and young people are more socially libertarian than ever before.

Why can’t Republicans learn?

It’s no answer to say their “base” — ever older, whiter, more rural and male — won’t budge. The Democratic Party of the 1990s simply ignored its old base and became New Democrats, spearheading a North American Free Trade Act (to the chagrin of organized labor), performance standards in classrooms (resisted by teachers’ unions) and welfare reform and crime control (upsetting traditional liberals).

The real answer is the Republican base is far more entrenched, institutionally, than was the old Democratic base. And its power is concentrated in certain states — most of the old Confederacy plus Arizona, Alaska, Indiana, and Wisconsin — which together exert more of a choke-hold on the Republican national party machinery than the old Democrats, spread widely but thinly over many states, exerted on the Democratic Party.

These Republican states are more homogenous and conspicuously less like the rest of America than the urbanized regions of the country that are growing more rapidly. Senators and representatives from these states naturally reflect the dominant views of their constituents — on immigration, abortion, and gay marriage, as well as guns, marijuana, race, and dozens of other salient issues.

But these views are increasingly out of step with where most of the nation is heading.

This state-centered, relatively homogenous GOP structure effectively prevents the Party from changing its stripes. Despite all the post-election rhetoric about the necessity for change emanating from GOP leaders who aspire to the national stage, the national stage isn’t really what the GOP is most interested in or attuned to. It’s directed inward rather than outward, to its state constituents rather than to the nation.

This structure also blocks any would-be “New Republicans” such as Chris Christie from gaining the kind of power inside the party that a New Democrat like Bill Clinton received in 1992. The only way they’d be able to attract a following inside the Party would be to commit themselves to policies they’d have to abandon immediately upon getting nominated, as Mitt Romney did with disastrous results.

It’s true that by 1992 Democrats were far more desperate to win the presidency — having been in the wilderness for twelve years — than today’s GOP appears to be. Nonetheless it’s doubtful the GOP will be willing to eschew its old base even if it loses the presidency again in 2016, because without its collection of relatively homogenous states, there just isn’t much of a GOP.

The greater likelihood is a steady eclipse of the Republican Party at the national level, even as it becomes more entrenched in particular states. Those states can be expected to become regressive islands of backwardness within a nation growing steadily more progressive.

The GOP’s national role will be primarily negative — seeking to block, delay, and filibuster measures that will eventually become the law of the land in any event, while simultaneously preaching “states’ rights” and praying for conservative majorities on the Supreme Court.

In other words, more of the same.

http://robertreich.org/

He's looking at you, Texians :lol

[boutons_deux]

'Man's Brain' Has Him Voting Against Health Care Expansion
I hear the conversation being about 'free this is free, we need to take it and it's free and we need to do it now' and that's sort of the fundamental message that my brain receives," Fredette said. "Now, my brain being a man's brain sort of thinks differently, because I say, well, it's not if it's free is it really free because I say in my brain there's a cost to this."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/12/ken-fredette-maine_n_3432207.html

yet another "freedom" asshole. Maine receives $1.40 from the feds for every $1 it pays.

Maine has 350K+ on Medicaid, probably 10Ks from his asshole's district.

[boutons_deux]

Texas Legislator Claims Rape Kits Are A Form Of Abortion (http://thinkprogress.org/health/2013/06/24/2201171/texas-legislator-claims-rape-kits-are-a-form-of-abortion/)


When Rep. Senfronia Thompson, D-Houston, called for an exemption for women who were victims of rape and incest, Rep. Jody Laubenberg, R-Parker, explained why she felt it was unnecessary.

“In the emergency room they have what’s called rape kits where a woman can get cleaned out,” she said, comparing the procedure to an abortion. “The woman had five months to make that decision, at this point we are looking at a baby that is very far along in its development.”

The remark about rape kits, which is not accurate, sparked widespread ridicule on social media sites. Laubenberg, who has difficulty debating bills, then simply rejected all proposed changes to her bill without speaking until the end of the debate.

http://thinkprogress.org/health/2013/06/24/2201171/texas-legislator-claims-rape-kits-are-a-form-of-abortion/

TX Repug wimmens is as anti-wimmen as TX Repug bubbas.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I though that was such an interesting thread in terms of political strategy I made. Now it has turned into boutox masturbation any time a GOP type says something stupid.

[boutons_deux]

Repugs think marketing/rebranding is their problem, but what I've been posting here, GFY, shows their actual actions, policies are more extreme/losing than ever, even worse than the 2012 campaign. They won't win any blue states, and could lose some purple states.

[boutons_deux]

there's ALWAYS more shit from the same-old-brand Repugs

Majority Of Texans Don’t Support The Abortion Restrictions Moving Through The Legislature (http://thinkprogress.org/health/2013/06/24/2202991/poll-texans-oppose-sb-5/)


Most Texas residents don’t support Senate Bill 5 (http://thinkprogress.org/health/2013/06/19/2180571/texas-advances-trap-special-session/), the omnibus anti-abortion bill currently advancing in the legislature (http://thinkprogress.org/health/2013/06/24/2200741/texas-gop-rushes-through-sb-5/), according to a new bipartisan poll (http://gqrr.com/images/documents/061913_TX_ACLU__FQ_public.pdf). In fact, 80 percent of Texans don’t want their lawmakers to be considering abortion-related bills during the special session that Gov. Rick Perry (R) convened (http://thinkprogress.org/health/2013/06/12/2142641/rick-perry-abortion-special-session/) at the beginning of the month.SB 5 combines several attacks on women’s reproductive into one omnibus measure. It would impose unnecessary burdens on abortion providers, force most of the abortion clinics in the state to close their doors, and criminalize abortions after 20 weeks (although one Senate version of the legislation removed the 20-week ban). Anti-choice lawmakers hope that the special session will give them the opportunity to push through SB 5, since its separate provisions failed to advance (http://thinkprogress.org/health/2013/05/23/2055941/texas-anti-abortion-bills-failed/) during the regular legislative session this year.

But Texas voters don’t actually want any more restrictions on abortion in their state. After conducting a survey among a representative sample of state residents between June 17 and 19, the polling firm Greenberg Quinlan Rosner (GQR) found (http://gqrr.com/articles/2013/06/20/texas-voters-oppose-governor-perry-s-omnibus-abortion-bill/) that

63 percent of registered voters think the Lone Star State already has enough anti-abortion laws on the books. Seventy one percent think the legislature should be more focused on the economy and jobs instead of social policies to police women’s reproductive rights.

Nearly three quarters of respondents said that personal medical decisions about whether to have an abortion should be made by a woman and her doctor, not by politicians.

Fifty seven percent said they don’t trust the Governor or the legislature to make choices about women’s health care.

And that opposition cuts across party lines: The support for women to make their own reproductive decisions remains strong among both Independents (76 percent) and Republicans (61 percent).

That opposition to the current legislative agenda is reflective in the massive numbers of protesters who have spoken out against SB 5 over the past week. On Thursday (http://thinkprogress.org/health/2013/06/21/2193501/hundreds-of-texans-block-anti-abortion-vote/) and Sunday (http://thinkprogress.org/health/2013/06/24/2200741/texas-gop-rushes-through-sb-5/), as the House considered SB 5, hundreds of women’s health advocates turned out to protest the abortion restrictions. Although those actions successfully delayed a vote on the bill, the House did eventually approve SB 5 (http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-06-24/abortion-ban-at-20-weeks-of-pregnancy-wins-texas-house-approval.html) on Monday morning. Senate Democrats have pledged to filibuster the legislation when it comes up for final passage in their chamber on Tuesday night — and, since the special session ends at midnight on Tuesday, they’re hoping to block it long enough to officially kill it for this year.

http://thinkprogress.org/health/2013/06/24/2202991/poll-texans-oppose-sb-5/

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Repugs think marketing/rebranding is their problem, but what I've been posting here, GFY, shows their actual actions, policies are more extreme/losing than ever, even worse than the 2012 campaign. They won't win any blue states, and could lose some purple states.

This is individual GOP types saying stupid things. Why don't you make a "stupid things GOP types say" thread.

Branding is typically denoted as a marketing campaign. The OP was talking about the RNC chair making such a central effort to market the party.

Your next post has nothing to do with a marketing attempt either. It's just GOP types being unresponsive to their electorate.

You are the one that bitches about posts being in the right place. Well you are posting off topic.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

From the article in the OP:


"This is unprecedented, and it's something we had to do," said RNC Chairman Reince Priebus, previewing the report on "Face the Nation." He told host Bob Schieffer the "huge" effort will include significant changes to the most high profile Republican event of the campaign.

"I'm calling for a convention in June or July," Preibus said. "We're going to set up a commission that's going to make that decision. I'm going to be a part of that. I'm going to chair that commission, but no more August conventions."

He said an earlier convention will help the eventual nominee go in stronger and come out with more time to try to win the general election.

What does your masturbation have to do with that? Oh yeah it doesn't.

[boutons_deux]

From the article in the OP:



What does your masturbation have to do with that? Oh yeah it doesn't.

The tea bagger extremists run the GOP, dominate the Congressional Repugs, not the RNC, Priebus.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

The tea bagger extremists run the GOP, dominate the Congressional Repugs, not the RNC, Priebus.

Who was talking in the original post? This is not hard to figure out. I even quoted it for you.

I get that the primary system removes much control from the actual party itself but that is besides the point. The OP is about the RNC's efforts. You are jerking off about any stupid thing a Republican says. Do you want me to make another thread to jerk off in?

[TeyshaBlue]

He's already got his vapid VWRC thread to pleasure himself with.

[boutons_deux]

Who was talking in the original post? This is not hard to figure out. I even quoted it for you.

I get that the primary system removes much control from the actual party itself but that is besides the point. The OP is about the RNC's efforts. You are jerking off about any stupid thing a Republican says. Do you want me to make another thread to jerk off in?

"beside the point"? :lol tea baggers/extremists control the Repug Congressional delegation. "beside the point"? :lol They killed the farm bill, they will kill the immigration bill.

"any stupid thing a Republican says." :lol

ok! :lol the isolated, non-representative "rotten apple" bullshit? :lol Like TX Repugs passing the most extreme anti-woman bill in the US? TX is just a "stupid thing"

TB :lol the fraudulent Tea baggers/Repug extremists are FINANCED by the VRWC :lol

[FuzzyLumpkins]

"beside the point"? :lol tea baggers/extremists control the Repug Congressional delegation. "beside the point"? :lol They killed the farm bill, they will kill the immigration bill.

"any stupid thing a Republican says." :lol

ok! :lol the isolated, non-representative "rotten apple" bullshit? :lol Like TX Repugs passing the most extreme anti-woman bill in the US? TX is just a "stupid thing"

TB :lol the fraudulent Tea baggers/Repug extremists are FINANCED by the VRWC :lol

Yay a bunch of boutox memes that are completely besides the point.

I am getting now that you are clueless as to how political parties are structured. You have your meme's. I have the GOP charter and platform. The OP is about the RNC and it's chair changing it's marketing policy towards elections.

I will tell you what, I will make another thread for you to spam your shit in.

[boutons_deux]

"marketing policy towards elections."

yes, yes, we understand the RNC thinks Repugs only have a marketing problem, so LYING better about what they actually do, and trying to get the tea baggers to shut up until after an election, will fix the Repugs huge demographic problem.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

"marketing policy towards elections."

yes, yes, we understand the RNC thinks Repugs only have a marketing problem, so LYING better about what they actually do, and trying to get the tea baggers to shut up until after an election, will fix the Repugs huge demographic problem.

Well that is the subject of the thread and not the subject of your posts in this thread. I made you a new thread that actually is about what you are posting in here.

I would like a place to discuss RNC policy without having to sift through your bullshit.

[scott]

It's branding that's clearly THE issue for the GOP.

Signed,

The Texas GOP.

[Winehole23]

nm

[Winehole23]

(drunk dialing)

[Winehole23]

(more of the same)