Celtics: How overrated is Paul Pierce [Archive]

BobaFett1

03-19-2013, 09:42 PM

Hall of Fame worthy in my book. He'll probably end up as the #1 scorer in Celtics history. Nuff said

I guess I think Bird and McHale are better players per par.

DPG21920

03-19-2013, 09:43 PM

He's probably underrated.

Richie

03-19-2013, 09:44 PM

Dude is 35, can't be looking at his performances at his age and claim he isn't a Hall of Famer. His Hall of Fame resume was written 3-8 years ago.

BobaFett1

03-19-2013, 09:46 PM

He's probably underrated.

DPG You are probably right, maybe I overlook him due to LBJ and Kobe.

spurraider21

03-19-2013, 09:48 PM

I guess I think Bird and McHale are better players per par.

I didn't say he's the best Celtics player ever, but its definitely nice to have "Celtics all time leading scorer" on your resume, provided he passes Hondo.

Latarian Milton

03-19-2013, 09:49 PM

dude has the athleticism of my grandma's but he displays the best fundamentals the world has ever seen tbh. you don't see any juggling movements from him but he can always create comfortable shots for himself using his fundamentals and experience, he's a textbook to amateur and semi-professional players tbh

OKC

03-19-2013, 09:51 PM

Uhhh- not overrated. He's a HOFer

Venti Quattro

03-19-2013, 09:56 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ry8-ieR8Lvw

whitemamba

03-19-2013, 09:57 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ry8-ieR8Lvw

:lolWheelchair
:lolCarry me

spurraider21

03-19-2013, 09:58 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ry8-ieR8Lvw

Kobe fan talking about faking injuries :lol

DAF86

03-19-2013, 10:06 PM

Some think he was the best player of that Celtics' championship, that's how overrated he is.

D-Wade

03-19-2013, 10:11 PM

I've always respected Paul. Annoying how someone that unathletic can be effective. Everything he does is pretty much in slow-motion for his step-back jumper to his drive. But he's clutch, a great competitor and a solid defender. If anything he's underrated.

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03-19-2013, 10:29 PM

Lieing about not returning to Los Angeles, Game 2.

Letting Artest take his pants down, Game 7.

Not wiping the scum from the corners of his mouth in Los Angeles, Game 7.

Not picking the wooley boogers out from his armpits in Los Angeles, Game 7.

Please.

LarryDavid

03-19-2013, 10:30 PM

Dude's a warrior tbh. Almost had his leg amputated and still came back to play.

http://lostangelesblog.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/0608058300.jpg

lefty

03-19-2013, 10:38 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ry8-ieR8Lvw
http://community.us.playstation.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/20871iD3D2B7F516FF5E02/image-size/original?v=mpbl-1&px=-1

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03-19-2013, 10:41 PM

Q-mT99HCFFI

- "Nobody closes us out, Cully. Nobody."

- Lakaluva - Game 7, down 13.

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03-19-2013, 10:42 PM

That motherfucker was in the air a long fucking time.

Killakobe81

03-19-2013, 10:43 PM

He's probably underrated.

A bit underrated by general NBA fan. Properly rated by hard-core ones ...overrated by plenty on here tbh

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03-19-2013, 10:44 PM

Q-mT99HCFFI

- "Nobody closes us out, Cully. Nobody."

- Lakaluva - Game 7, down 13.

What in the world was Pierce thinking flinching like that on a drive fake from Ron Artest?

Hell, that's better than Bynum never playing for Philadelphia.

tee, hee.

HarlemHeat37

03-19-2013, 10:48 PM

He was overrated for a while IMO, but he has been underrated since Rondo's stat-padding emergence, tbh..

- Perennial 20+ PPG player
- Best scorer on a championship team and another Finals team
- Perennial All-Star
- Still a top 20-25 player in the league
- Top 5 "closer" of his era
- Matched Lebron in 2008 and outplayed Kobe in the Finals the same year

HOF near-lock IMO..

Chinook

03-19-2013, 11:06 PM

Hall of Fame worthy in my book. He'll probably end up as the #1 scorer in Celtics history. Nuff said

This brings up an interesting question (to me, at least): Is the all time-scorer from each team in the Hall of Fame? I know that a couple of franchises are too young to have HOFer yet. Durant will probably get there, though. So with the exception of Charlotte, is every team's all-time leading scorer in the Hall or on his way there?

TDMVPDPOY

03-19-2013, 11:08 PM

NOT overrated as tim duncan above

irishock

03-19-2013, 11:20 PM

Most underrated player ever if people are questioning his HOF chances.

spurraider21

03-19-2013, 11:26 PM

This brings up an interesting question (to me, at least): Is the all time-scorer from each team in the Hall of Fame? I know that a couple of franchises are too young to have HOFer yet. Durant will probably get there, though. So with the exception of Charlotte, is every team's all-time leading scorer in the Hall or on his way there?

Not sure about every team. Bur for most, I would say so. I mean, look at the great players that have suited up for the Celtics. Halvicek, Cousy, Russell, Bird, McHale, Parish, etc. To have scored more points in your career than all of those dudes says you're something special. Now, if you're the all time leading scorer for say, the Clippers, the Suns, etc, it doesn't say as much.

JamStone

03-19-2013, 11:29 PM

The guy's amazing. You could cut his throat, put him in a wheelchair, wrap a bandage around his chin for no reason, force him to throw up gang signs, and he'll still drop a quarter on you with a clutch three for good measure. Ninja is cold blooded. He's kind of strange the way he acts sometimes and he can be pretty annoying, but his game gets respect.

baseline bum

03-19-2013, 11:31 PM

Easily in the HOF and probably on the first ballot.

dunkman

03-19-2013, 11:37 PM

Under-rated definitely, he never made any all-defensive team which is ridiculous. He's not only a great scorer, but a very efficient one. One of the best in the clutch, the best of his generation. Good rebounder, good passer, 3pt champion, lot of steals too.

2pac > Kobe

03-19-2013, 11:38 PM

we aint goin back to LA

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03-20-2013, 12:11 AM

The guy's amazing. You could cut his throat, put him in a wheelchair, wrap a bandage around his chin for no reason, force him to throw up gang signs, and he'll still drop a quarter on you with a clutch three for good measure.

& yet Artest feigned to the right and Pierce bit on it. Next thing you know:

Kobe: 5

the tired old shit bag Duncan: 4

Just shows ta go ya.

Venti Quattro

03-20-2013, 12:13 AM

we aint goin back to LA

:lmao

LnGrrrR

03-20-2013, 12:17 AM

This guy is good but I question if this cat is hall of fame worthy. Very very overrated imho.

How stupid is BobaFett? This guy is stupid but I question if this cat is hall of fame stupid. Very very dumb, but not top 50 goat stupid imho.

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03-20-2013, 12:19 AM

^I'm gonna need ya Friday nite in Dallas. Don't fuck it up, asshole.

LnGrrrR

03-20-2013, 12:20 AM

^I'm gonna need ya Friday nite in Dallas. Don't fuck it up, asshole.

Could've used your support a day ago, to be honest. :lol

callo1

03-20-2013, 01:09 AM

Not really a fan of Pierce, but he is a HoF player no doubt.

8FOR!3

03-20-2013, 01:25 AM

1st ballot this thread is a joke.

BatManu20

03-20-2013, 03:39 AM

Pierce is a lock for the Hall and one of the most clutch shooters in the league tbh. Plus he's never been very athletic which makes it all the more impressive. He's just a baller.

LkrFan

03-20-2013, 04:19 AM

First Ballot HOFer

Raven

03-20-2013, 05:23 AM

underrated tbh, the dude is awesome.

ambchang

03-20-2013, 06:55 AM

Judging by this thread, he is one of the most underrated of all time.

Fabbs

03-20-2013, 10:00 AM

Had great playoffs and Finals in 2008.

Otherwise, volume chucker with below average D.

Brazil

03-20-2013, 04:26 PM

Probably a bit overrated after the LOB in 2008 but mostly underrated all his career. This year in particular, he is carrying the load since Rondo went down leading his team to a very solid record and yet nobody talks about him in the media.

hater

03-20-2013, 05:15 PM

Prime Pierce is as good as pretty much anyone. I'd take prime Pierce over Wade in a second for example. The fact that he raised his game and clutchness as the stakes got higher makes him a lock to HOF

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03-20-2013, 07:08 PM

It was nice seeing him get his in the '10 Finals. Media was outraged. They got no bites at the apple. They so wanted to shish-ka-bob Kobe there, get him stopped before he passed Daddy and got his over the Celtics. Sure, Magic had gotten straighted out, but, Kobe was still in peril after '08. Pierce, & Allen fucked game 7 up so badly and to this day neither have had to answer for it.

Juggity

03-20-2013, 07:13 PM

I guess I think Bird and McHale are better players per par.

Incorrect usage tbh

DAF86

03-20-2013, 07:24 PM

Just to clarify, I think he's a Hall of Famer but he was by no means the best player of that '08 Celtics team, Garnett was.

Kulo

03-20-2013, 07:29 PM

Had great playoffs and Finals in 2008.

Otherwise, volume chucker with below average D.
He is a volume chucker no doubt, makes us fans rage when he isn't hitting... But, he is underrated defensively imho.

BobaFett1

03-20-2013, 08:34 PM

How stupid is BobaFett? This guy is stupid but I question if this cat is hall of fame stupid. Very very dumb, but not top 50 goat stupid imho.

Just giving my 2 cents. Of course you a Celtic fan so I expect no less. Do not go IRA on me.

BobaFett1

03-20-2013, 08:36 PM

1st ballot this thread is a joke.

^^^^^^
This thread has opened up a honest topic.

mavs>spurs

03-20-2013, 08:52 PM

Truth is underrated by you lame ass fuckboys. Dude was a leader, clutch, great scorer, solid defender. punked kobe and lebron on his way to the ship.

BobaFett1

03-20-2013, 09:02 PM

Kobe,LeBron,Wade,dirk>pierce

mavs>spurs

03-20-2013, 09:07 PM

Kobe,LeBron,Wade,dirk>pierce

^slightly. truth is right behind them rounding out the top 20.

LnGrrrR

03-20-2013, 10:53 PM

Kobe,LeBron,Wade,dirk>pierce

So anyone not as good as Kobe, Lebron, Wade or Dirk isn't Hall of Fame material? Man, the Hall isn't going to get a lot of entrants in the next few decades.

Latarian Milton

03-21-2013, 10:23 AM

pierce is well past his prime and for sure you can take guys like wade/dirk/kobe over him at this point of time but he's still an efficieny player even with limited athleticism and vertical jump.

Spur-Addict

03-21-2013, 10:34 AM

Definetly a HOF'er. Has some of the best footwork ever.

Phillip

03-21-2013, 10:50 AM

Overrated? :downspin:

Dude is one of the most underrated superstars I've ever seen, IMO.

I can't think of many players that were as balanced as he is, and able to do it mostly with great fundamentals and skill, as opposed to extreme athletic ability.

When he needed to, he showed a great ability to play lockdown defense even against elite scorers like Kobe, while being able to dominate offensively against elite defenders. Incredibly clutch. He could pretty much beat you any way you want offensively, whether its through driving and scoring, posting up and getting to the basket, hitting difficult fadeaways, catch and shoot 3s, etc...

I think a great argument can be made that he is the 3rd best SF of all time, behind only Lebron and Bird.

Phillip

03-21-2013, 10:51 AM

Just to clarify, I think he's a Hall of Famer but he was by no means the best player of that '08 Celtics team, Garnett was.
no

TDMVPDPOY

03-21-2013, 10:57 AM

pp played with bullshit like broke ass walker

BobaFett1

03-21-2013, 08:55 PM

Pickle

03-21-2013, 09:00 PM

LOL putting James worthy on the same level as Paul pierce. Worthy wasn't even a #1 option type player.

BobaFett1

03-21-2013, 09:03 PM

LOL putting James worthy on the same level as Paul pierce. Worthy wasn't even a #1 option type player.

Worthy was pretty dam good.

irishock

03-21-2013, 09:07 PM

According to lakersground, Worthy never won a title unlike Kobe.

mavs>spurs

03-21-2013, 09:23 PM

Worthy was pretty dam good.

He was the ultimate role player, that doesn't put him on the level of a guy like Pierce who put the team on his back and lead them to the championship, outplaying prime Lebron and Kobe en route.

DAF86

03-21-2013, 09:34 PM

no

'07/'08 season

MVP voting
1-Kobe
2-CP3
3-KG

DPOY
1-KG

http://www.basketball-reference.com/awards/awards_2008.html

Killakobe81

03-21-2013, 10:40 PM

According to lakersground, Worthy never won a title unlike Kobe.

What?! GTFO you have to be posting the Kobefanbois real Laker fans on there appreciate Worthy

Phillip

03-21-2013, 10:42 PM

'07/'08 season

MVP voting
1-Kobe
2-CP3
3-KG

DPOY
1-KG

http://www.basketball-reference.com/awards/awards_2008.html

no different than Malone getting all the accolades while Stockton was the best player on the Jazz.

Phillip

03-21-2013, 10:44 PM

James Worthy

no

DAF86

03-21-2013, 11:22 PM

no different than Malone getting all the accolades while Stockton was the best player on the Jazz.

lol son, just no.

dfens

03-22-2013, 03:17 PM

lol son, just no.

http://www.sportsmemes.net/pics/4189.jpg

why are we talking about an overrated geriatric scrub?

LnGrrrR

03-22-2013, 07:56 PM

^ :lol gnlf

LkrFan

03-22-2013, 08:04 PM

He was the ultimate role player, that doesn't put him on the level of a guy like Pierce who put the team on his back and lead them to the title outplaying prime Lebron and Kobe en route.
What a moronic post. You are either 13, trolling, or a pure breed dumbass. Worthy use to decimate the vaunted Bad Boy defense en route to back to back titles for Showtime. He's even a top 50 player of all time. They didn't call him Big Game James for nothing. R:lolle player

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03-22-2013, 08:43 PM

Worthy had his faults, but, he never woulda flinched on Artest like Pierce did.

tee, hee.

Latarian Milton

03-22-2013, 09:50 PM

there ain't many niggas who could survive 11 knife wounds, let alone coming back to play professional basketball and establishing himself a superstar tbh

Calispursfan11

03-22-2013, 10:17 PM

Pierce is severely underrated tbh. He is up there with Kobe easily and at 35 only a notch below the best of the best ala James and Durant. Pierce is a true warrior, professional who has overcome physical limitations that most other superstars don't have to worry about.

mavs>spurs

03-23-2013, 01:12 PM

What a moronic post. You are either 13, trolling, or a pure breed dumbass. Worthy use to decimate the vaunted Bad Boy defense en route to back to back titles for Showtime. He's even a top 50 player of all time. They didn't call him Big Game James for nothing. R:lolle player

Worthy was a role player, he wasn't going to create his own shot in the half court when the game came down to grind it out in the fourth quarter. that was magic's and kareem's job. you can't compare apples and oranges, one is a legit #1 go to option and one isn't. Doesn't mean he wasn't a great player, he was great at his role which was different than Pierce's. If you take Worthy over Pierce you don't really know much about basketball and would make a shit GM.

DUNCANownsKOBE

03-23-2013, 01:41 PM

LkrFan

03-24-2013, 12:55 AM

Worthy was a role player, he wasn't going to create his own shot in the half court when the game came down to grind it out in the fourth quarter. that was magic's and kareem's job. you can't compare apples and oranges, one is a legit #1 go to option and one isn't. Doesn't mean he wasn't a great player, he was great at his role which was different than Pierce's. If you take Worthy over Pierce you don't really know much about basketball and would make a shit GM.
We'll agree to disagree. I know if Worthy was #1 option his whole career he'd put up much better #s. I won't knock PP because he's a baller. I just can't put him over Worthy, a 3-time world champ.

Sean Cagney

03-24-2013, 01:02 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ry8-ieR8Lvw

Like Kobe limping off and he is back a few games later with a so called severe ankle sprain........ Someone beat me to that though already I see.

LkrFan

03-24-2013, 01:05 AM

After Kareem and Magic were gone, Worthy disappeared from the NBA quicker than cocaine from Whitney Houston's coffee table :lol

:lol retiring at age 33
:lol wanting nothing to do with playing once he had to step up as a main option
Nah, I ain't buying it. He lost a quite a bit of his athleticism after he It was time for him to go. His game relied upon athleticism and he couldn't adjust his game to compensate for the lack of it. Same thing will happen to LBJ if he doesn't stop relying solely on his athleticism. Mother Nature is undefeated.

whitemamba

03-24-2013, 01:31 AM

Nah, I ain't buying it. He lost a quite a bit of his athleticism after he It was time for him to go. His game relied upon athleticism and he couldn't adjust his game to compensate for the lack of it. Same thing will happen to LBJ if he doesn't stop relying solely on his athleticism. Mother Nature is undefeated.

Kobe 1

Mother Nature 0