Rasho will be traded, but not for Rahim

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Stick with me for a second. The Spurs never let people know about their personnel moves, unless there is a reason behind it.

Everyone knows we're talking to Portland about Rahim for Rasho. My theory? We've got the word out, now RC and Pop are sitting back and waiting to see what offers come their way.

Deep down, they know a starting caliber center is something about 2/3 of the league needs. So why not let it be known Rasho's available, and see what you can get?

Don't ask who I think it will be for, I have no idea. The Spurs always seem to pull a rabbit out of their hat on this stuff, and probably will again (but feel free to speculate).

[slayermin]

Interesting angle. But who's better than SAR?

[Man In Black]

Are we talking about Rasho to them or are they asking if Rasho is available and Pop & RC are listening?

[BadlyDrawnBoy]

Rasho for Marshall?

[drivanroca]

We've got the word out, now RC and Pop are sitting back and waiting to see what offers come their way.



POP is Fishing in Argentina :elephant :spin

[spurschick]

POP is Fishing in Argentina :elephant :spin

Hopefully he will catch himself an Argentinian forward.

[kolko]

POP is Fishing in Argentina :elephant :spin

No, Pop is flying to SA right now.

[angel_luv]

Stop toying with my heart Popovich!

[BadlyDrawnBoy]

No, Pop is flying to SA right now.

Nope, Pop is currently flying to Flytonaville to do some fly fishing for the next flyve days.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

I think we've got bigger fish to catch than Scola.

I think Donyell could be a possibility, for one.

I could even see Seattle move Radmanovic for a legit center.

[BadlyDrawnBoy]

I think we've got bigger fish to catch than Scola.

I think Donyell could be a possibility, for one.

I could even see Seattle move Radmanovic for a legit center.

Radmanovic is S-O-F-T defined.

[tlongII]

I hope you're right, because that trade sucks ass.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

I mainly threw out Radman's name to try and get people to think outside the box.

Point being it's going to be something we don't expect.

[beirmeistr]

Hmmmmmmm. Very interesting, AHF.

[SequSpur]

Isn't it obvious and not CIA shit?

Rasho is an unneeded commodity.

That's not rocket science.

If the Spurs don't trade his ass then their stupid.

[slayermin]

Is there a way we could weasel Odom out of LA? Now that would be a coup.

[Extra Stout]

I have heard that if word of a potential Spurs trade becomes public, that trade is already dead.

[BadlyDrawnBoy]

Isn't it obvious and not CIA shit?

Rasho is an unneeded commodity.

That's not rocket science.

If the Spurs don't trade his ass then their stupid.

Their not as stupid as you.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Sequ,

No one's saying they won't trade him. Just me personally, I think talks of say, a SAR trade, are setting the bar too low.

[SequSpur]

ahh... they're, you got me.

You know Derrick, you seem like a cool dude, but why in the fuck do you change screen names every 30 days?

Just wondering, because I can't keep up with you.

[BronxCowboy]

Sequ,

No one's saying they won't trade him. Just me personally, I think talks of say, a SAR trade, are setting the bar too low.

Exactly

[SequSpur]

Sequ,

No one's saying they won't trade him. Just me personally, I think talks of say, a SAR trade, are setting the bar too low.

I don't think they will trade him. The need to. Every team has that one overpaid deadbeat and he is definitely filling that need.

[tlongII]

Sequ,

No one's saying they won't trade him. Just me personally, I think talks of say, a SAR trade, are setting the bar too low.


Too LOW? If you got Reef you would be guaranteed titles for at least the next 3 years! Reef is 10 TIMES the player that Nesterovic is.

[BadlyDrawnBoy]

ahh... they're, you got me.

You know Derrick, you seem like a cool dude, but why in the fuck do you change screen names every 30 days?

Just wondering, because I can't keep up with you.

Maybe I should ask Derrick why he does that.

[drivanroca]

Radmanovic is S-O-F-T defined.


RADMANOVIC = TURKOGLU???

:spin

[ducks]

Rasho For Odom?

[SequSpur]

Maybe I should ask Derrick why he does that.

That's a start.

[BadlyDrawnBoy]

RADMANOVIC = TURKOGLU???

:spin

Nah, Turk almost got into a fight this past season as a Magic.

Rad braided his hair.

[BadlyDrawnBoy]

That's a start.

Well, who and where the fuck is Derrick?

[BadlyDrawnBoy]

Rasho for Nocioni and Piatkowski.

[BadlyDrawnBoy]

Rasho for Marshall and Lamond Murray.

[ChumpDumper]

Well, it might be a disinformation campaign by the Spurs.

It could also have been leaked by the Blazers though.

[Sii]

who says its the Spurs who are talking to portland and letting everyone know what they are doing to fake people out? the report was the BLAZERS were trying to work a deal to get Rasho for SAR

that means to mean that Portland is calling the Spurs and RC is listening...not the other way around!

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Odom comes to mind, but he will be making 11.5 million this year. Rasho is at 6.7. Even with the new 25% rules on trades, you've still gotta come up with another three million in salary to send to LA.

Here's some ideas that work salary wise....

Rasho for Jared Jeffries and Brendan Haywood
Rasho for Al Harrington
Rasho for a sign and traded Donyell Marshall or Morris Peterson
Rasho for Lorenzen Wright
Rasho for Mike Miller
Rasho for James Posey
Rasho for Darius Miles
Rasho for sign and traded Bobby Simmons
Rasho for one from each of Fisher/Dunleavy and Pietrus/Biedrins

[Ginofan]

Darius Miles? You think you're getting Miles for Rasho?

Pipe Dream!

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

So was getting Nazr for Rose, but that sure turned out okay.

[Leetonidas]

Rasho for Nocioni would be sweet.

[blaze89]

Stop toying with my heart Popovich!

That sounds like a title for dance song remix.


It appears Rasho will be traded, which is somewhat of a downer for me, cause I'd like Rasho to flash that Championship ring in front of S.A. Smith.

[ace3g]

Rasho for Nocioni would be sweet.


I also had the same idea, oh wait people dont like Nocioni since he is from Argentina

[kolko]

Rasho for Eddie Robinson and one of either Luol Deng or Andres Nocioni

Eddie Robinson was waived by the Bulls last summer.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Yeah, I wasn't really paying attention when I wrote that. My bad.

[TNT21]

Rasho for a bag of chips and a piece of german chocolate cake! Now that I mention it, fuck the bag of chips!

[Cant_Be_Faded]

holy shit if we got King Darius of Miles then we could be looking at an even better spurs team than 2005...

[Leetonidas]

holy shit if we got King Darius of Miles then we could be looking at an even better spurs team than 2005...

Darius Miles = Douche bag with legs

[Cant_Be_Faded]

darius miles also = extremely young, athletic, capable of amazing defense

if we got his attitude going, like once he got used to liking the idea of WINNING for a change, he'd be amazing. Naturally I dont think its going to happen, but a guy can dream...

[Leetonidas]

darius miles also = extremely young, athletic, capable of amazing defense

if we got his attitude going, like once he got used to liking the idea of WINNING for a change, he'd be amazing. Naturally I dont think its going to happen, but a guy can dream...

I'd be fine with him if he was a good guy, but if he did come here, I wouldn't like it unless the coaching staff and team cooled off his attitude.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

yeah naturally. i mean, he's so young he probably just wants a huge payday, I probably would too. But if he somehow landed here against his will I think we could turn him into a madman on the defensive end...throw in his ridiculous dunks here and there and you got our young SF AND a crowd favorite...

[Leetonidas]

yeah naturally. i mean, he's so young he probably just wants a huge payday, I probably would too. But if he somehow landed here against his will I think we could turn him into a madman on the defensive end...throw in his ridiculous dunks here and there and you got our young SG AND a crowd favorite...

Well we can keep dreaming. :smokin

[Sense]

Rasho For Odom?


Hahahaha, you made a funny!

[slayermin]

Nah, Turk almost got into a fight this past season as a Magic.

Rad braided his hair.

:rollin

[itzsoweezee]

Too LOW? If you got Reef you would be guaranteed titles for at least the next 3 years! Reef is 10 TIMES the player that Nesterovic is.

i know, right? do people not realize that this guy is a career 20 and 8 player?! how many players in the league can claim that? if this trade is possible, the spurs need to pull the trigger on this shit.

[bigzak25]

you gotta stop looking at stats. those stats have gotten SAR's ass traded more times than i care to remember. there has to be a reason.

Pop loves Rasho 1st of all. I still don't think he will let him go unless there is an upgrade at Center available. You are not supposed to trade down in size...granted that Rasho plays like malik without the heart, but i digress.

[texbound]

you gotta stop looking at stats. those stats have gotten SAR's ass traded more times than i care to remember. there has to be a reason.

SAR was traded twice. The 1st one, Memphis got their starting frontcourt out of it, P. Gasol and L. Wright. The 2nd time, Atlanta was just looking to clear cap space and got rid of Ratliff and SAR for Rasheed. Those are the reasons. It's not as if he's a Chris Gatling.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

I still don't think he will let him go unless there is an upgrade at Center available.

Pop already got his upgrade in Nazr.

Now the focus is long three/athletic four.

[ambchang]

The Mo Pete scenario is very interested.
He is a good defender, and works hard at both ends of the floor, good finisher on the break, decent 3 pt shooter, but his handles are suspect, and he can't create at all. Capable of flashes of brilliance, but who then retreat to a hole on offense.
Come to think of it, sounds like a good Bowen replacement.

[Nikos]

Darius Miles? You think you're getting Miles for Rasho?

Pipe Dream!

What is so pipe about that? Rasho has had more value than Darius the past few seasons. Miles hasn't really improved much, if it all as a player since his rookie season.

Not saying he doesn't have some potential if put in the right system, but it is highly doubtful he becomes an All-Star player. But I do think he could help the Spurs a lot.

[bigbendbruisebrother]

POP is Fishing in Argentina :elephant :spin

Too bad we can't trade Rasho for Scola and eliminate the buyout. Someone should petition Stern to allow international trades. Can't you just hear Pop? "You shoot that three off a fast break one more time, and I'm sending your ass to Israel. You wanna play for Macabi, motherfucker? How about the Russian "superleague". I hear Moscow is really nice in February."

[Jimcs50]

I have been saying for a couple of months that Rasho will be traded to NJ. I was adding NY to that possibility also.

Both NJ and NY need a quality veteran center, the Spurs need a backup PF, if Scola can not be acquired from Europe. or a backup swingman. I am thinking either Jefferson or Antoine Wright(I pray for this) I was thinking about Sweetney from NY, but with the Knicks trading away Kurt Thomas, the Sweetney trade is probably out.

I want Antoine!!!

[bigzak25]

Pop already got his upgrade in Nazr.

Now the focus is long three/athletic four.


You are right our Spurs got Nazr, but he has not re-signed. i don't think the Spurs would want to be put over a barrel by shipping Rasho off before then.

and SAR is a 4 who plays soft D? why not just resign big dog for cheap.

hey Tlong, how did SAR do vs. Shaq, Amare, and the Wallace bros?
Thanks in advance. :smokin

[nkdlunch]

holy shit if we got King Darius of Miles then we could be looking at an even better spurs team than 2005...

you're joking right? the point is players have to improve season to season not get worse

[ChumpDumper]

there has to be a reason.Yeah, he was overpaid.

[GhostofAlfrederickHughes]

Rasho for Malik Rose!!!!


:lol

[Jimcs50]

Rasho for Malik Rose!!!!


:lol

In essence, it would have gone down as a trade of Rasho for Nazr then?

Not too bad.

:)

[spvrs]

Originally Posted by Aggie Hoopsfan
Rasho for Eddie Robinson and one of either Luol Deng or Andres Nocioni



doh?!?!?!


How fucking retarded does this thread look now??

[spvrs]

Originally Posted by Aggie Hoopsfan
No one's saying they won't trade him. Just me personally, I think talks of say, a SAR trade, are setting the bar too low.

double dohh

[Rescueone]

I'd be fine with him if he was a good guy, but if he did come here, I wouldn't like it unless the coaching staff and team cooled off his attitude.


Why does every player the Spurs get or "have to have" on their team is a "good guy." Wouldn't it be nice to add an edgy baller with some spunk in his step. Are the Spurs "small market" because they shut out these types of players? We are the 10th largest city in America, Our team should reflect that. However we don't need the thugs, They can stay in Indy and Detroit. Less we forget what happened to D Robinson when K Malone elbowed him to the head, and no one came to his Defense. Everyone on the "good guy" Spurs
had their jaws on the floor and were SCARED to confront Malone. An edgy player would have at least shown some backbone and got it his face. Not his hands on his face saying "OH MY GOD" over and over (ie Tim Duncan!). If they can get this guy, get him, and leave his attitude alone. The Spurs could use a little attitude. They are the Champs, and teams are gunning for them.

[UTSARoadrunnerBBFan]

Rasho or Nazr to Memphis for Battier or Posey???

[ace3g]

that is one of the very possible trades out there for rasho or nazr.

Memphis; Atlanta are the best suitors for the spurs to make a trade with

[SWC Bonfire]

that is one of the very possible trades out there for rasho or nazr.

Memphis; Atlanta are the best suitors for the spurs to make a trade with

Nazr would be more attractive to other teams for the same reason he was attractive to the Spurs - an expiring contract. I don't know if the Spurs want to give that flexibility away or not.

[spvrs]

People. we aren't getting jack shyt for Rasho. we might get an all star for him if we package Duncan or Manu.

The reason I bumped the thread post was to show that it was off base.

In the Express news it came out flat and said Atlanta has no interest and Stein speculates that we might cut the guy, ie pay him to go away for nothing in return

[UTSARoadrunnerBBFan]

Height is a premium. Rasho, having an off year, is still a serviceable big man.

[BronxCowboy]

Stein speculates that we might cut the guy, ie pay him to go away for nothing in return
:rolleyes

[ChumpDumper]

Stein speculation = Sam Smith trade rumor = Chad Ford spelling error

[CaptainLate]

you gotta stop looking at stats. those stats have gotten SAR's ass traded more times than i care to remember. there has to be a reason.

Pop loves Rasho 1st of all. I still don't think he will let him go unless there is an upgrade at Center available.

Unless its a no brainer, Spurs will hold off till February trade deadline.

[spvrs]

Yes you guys know better than Stein or Express news. Rasho is a good big man, with a decent contract because you guys say so... :drunk

[CaptainLate]

In essence, it would have gone down as a trade of Rasho for Nazr then?

Not too bad.

Rosho for Nazr? Not quite. Let's not forget the two #1 picks we gave up. One this year and another next. Ian Mahimi (sp?) better be worth it.

[CaptainLate]

that is one of the very possible trades out there for rasho or nazr.

Memphis; Atlanta are the best suitors for the spurs to make a trade with

Would Memphis trade with someone in their own division? Hmmmm

[CaptainLate]

So (a pipe dream) was getting Nazr for Rose, but that sure turned out okay.

That was an anamoly. We also gave up two #1 picks and we were dealing with Isiah Thomas.

[ChumpDumper]

Yes you guys know better than Stein or Express news.Well we've proved that a couple of times....

[spvrs]

Well we've proved that a couple of times....

:lol

we'll see. I'm sure you'll have some qualified bullshyt reason though...

'no we were trying to get rid of those 3 number ones for cap reasons... this was a great trade for Greg Ostertag'

[ChumpDumper]

I'm sure you'll have some qualified bullshyt reason though.What qualified reason? These guys aren't infallible. That's all.

[spvrs]

you are said Atlanta would take Rasho in a second (implying he has some value). most other people say no one will take him with out giving up assets(implying w/his contract he doesn't)

someone is wrong.

[ChumpDumper]

I am on record as saying Rasho is more than likely a fallback for Atlanta after it strikes out with guys like Dalembert and Curry. I would think that Hunter would be a likely target for them now. They know Rasho will continue to be on the table, so what good would it do to tell anyone in the press they are considering him?

None.

Any real negotiations with ATL for Rasho are still a ways off.

[clubalien]

do you think we can get a pick out of them for rasho?

[ChumpDumper]

If I haven't mentioned it yet, I also believe those calling for Childress, et.al., are reaching. The Spurs are buying payroll relief, and it will cost them.
do you think we can get a pick out of them for rasho?Depends on what players are involved.

[spvrs]

I didn't ask you to explain your position. Let's see what happens...

you might be... I know you have trouble admiting it... word starts with a w...
wrong.

here comes the of course I admit I'm wrong when I'm wrong.. I just can't remember when it ever happened or in this case there is no way...

[ChumpDumper]

That's whotttspeak.

I've been wrong, he'll I'm just a poster on an internet site. I can definintely be wrong in this case. The media have been just as wrong at times too.

[spvrs]

The Spurs are buying payroll relief, and it will cost them.

Dude you've already changed your position. You said straight out that Atl. would trade Diaw for Rasho straight up (in a second). then some people were stupid enough to say a Smith...

wow if your position morphs enough you can never be wrong... schweeet

[ChumpDumper]

You said straight out that Atl. would trade Diaw for Rasho straight upWe were speaking hypothetically.

What I think is going on in the real world, I have been stating outside my little tutoring sessions for you for quite some time now.

RIF.

[spvrs]

what are you tutoring me in?


We were speaking hypothetically.

what does that mean? as opposed to what? so you weren't wrong?

[ChumpDumper]

what does that mean? as opposed to what?As opposed to predicting a straight up Rasho for Diaw trade and declaring Rasho as Atlanta's priority for the summer.

My prediction was the Hawks would turn to trades for guys like Rasho if and when they struck out in free agency with guys like Curry and Dalembert. I even said if they are smart they would be calling Hunter right now.

I don't expect you to see the difference. Those who know, know.

[spvrs]

here comes the of course I admit I'm wrong when I'm wrong.. I just can't remember when it ever happened or in this case there is no way...

[ChumpDumper]

I can't help your stupidity or inability to read.

[ChumpDumper]

We'll have to wait until Atlanta strikes out in the free agent market before offerring up these kinds of trades. Curry and Dalembert are still in play and Joe Johnson is penciled in until further notice.


http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?p=394615&highlight=Hawks#post394615

[Money316]

Darius Miles = Douche bag with legs

So what's so unusual about that?

:fro :lol :fro

[Money316]

Why does every player the Spurs get or "have to have" on their team is a "good guy." Wouldn't it be nice to add an edgy baller with some spunk in his step. Are the Spurs "small market" because they shut out these types of players? We are the 10th largest city in America, Our team should reflect that. However we don't need the thugs, They can stay in Indy and Detroit. Less we forget what happened to D Robinson when K Malone elbowed him to the head, and no one came to his Defense. Everyone on the "good guy" Spurs
had their jaws on the floor and were SCARED to confront Malone. An edgy player would have at least shown some backbone and got it his face. Not his hands on his face saying "OH MY GOD" over and over (ie Tim Duncan!). If they can get this guy, get him, and leave his attitude alone. The Spurs could use a little attitude. They are the Champs, and teams are gunning for them.

Word.
:fro :fro :fro

[Jimcs50]

I have been saying for months that Rasho will be on The Nets next year.

Jefferson is a possibility....although, I wish we could get Antoine.

[BronxCowboy]

Jefferson is a possibility

Isn't Jefferson making a lot more than Rasho? Just wondering.

[csw225]

why would anyone give up richard jefferson, a potential allstar, for a mediocre center like rash?

[spvrs]

Moving Rasho doesn't make it any easier to sign Scola this season -- only to keep him long-term perhaps.

That said, Atlanta would probably take him for Diaw and cap space, no questions asked.



The Spurs are buying payroll relief, and it will cost them.


You sure you weren't taking the tutorial not giving it?

no charge

[Kori Ellis]

Isn't Jefferson making a lot more than Rasho? Just wondering.

Yes. Jefferson makes about $10M this season, I believe.

[Russ]

If the Spurs trade Rasho, Nazr will probably raise his contract price through the roof next summer.

[BronxCowboy]

first of all,

Is there a second of all, or do you just like typing random words in your posts?

*Disclaimer: You're right that such a trade will never happen. If it did, I would wonder what kind of secrets the Nets doctors were hiding about RJ.

[ChumpDumper]

You sure you weren't taking the tutorial not giving it? Is that offer on the table?

Has it been refused?

No.

It's hy

po

the

tic

al

Say it slowly. I know you can do it.....

Now you can show me the link where I said "Rasho will be a Hawk -- it's a lock!"

[AFE7FATMAN]

When Rasho is traded and if Nazr works out ok and tries to put the $ squeeze on the Spurs he will be gone. This is assuming Oberto lives up to expections. Javokatos
will be here in 2006-2007 and should be able to fill the bill and we might be able to get someone to help in the Raso trade, or the Nazr trade, if one comes about.

[spvrs]

everything any body says on the board is the same as you saying
"Hawks would trade Diaw for Rasho straight up". So what we need written statement from RC and King saying that the trade was offered and denied?

you think people are stating fact when they say "[insert team] will win the championship" or "if we had Payton we'd win 5 championships"

you speculated/made a hypothesis, which right now looks wrong (who know the trade may go down -- in that case you'd have been correct 7/1 and wrong yesterday).

I don't know how the intelligent posters see it but you logic looks an awfully lot like:

if chump said it = true

I can almost hear you brain cranking with all the qualifiers and word play...

[ChumpDumper]

So what we need written statement from RC and King saying that the trade was offered and denied?A news report citing those players would be fine.

[spvrs]

so if we were to cut Rasho or dump him or trade assets to get rid of him you couldn't take the baby step to say 'if deal worse than rasho for diaw = true then rasho for diaw hypothesis I had was wrong'

this is whole new level of dancing dude

chump = whott

you've become your greatest fear. the irony

[ChumpDumper]

If Rasho for Diaw was turned down, you can throw a party.

Just link it.

[spvrs]

If Rasho for Diaw was turned down, you can throw a party.
huh?

are you in a fetal position sucking you thumb?

[ChumpDumper]

Now you're just babbling.

Still looking for links?

[spvrs]

can you re-igore me? thanks

[ChumpDumper]

I never had you on ignore. You just weren't interesting enough to converse with until you started pimping the seventh swingman on a six-swingman team.

[spvrs]

can you igore me? thanks

[ChumpDumper]

I surrender.

[waly.mg]

We need a 3 teams trade for Rasho, for make a trade exemption, like the Nets when traded K-Mart, with that trade we can save almost 50% of his contract

[ChumpDumper]

We would likely get a trade exception if we traded with Atlanta.

[spvrs]

you know the definition of ignore?

I would do it to you but you are such a pompous ass that you've disabled it



Quote:

Originally Posted by spvrs



I surrender.


the stubborn retard has won. I surrender. phrase circular logic is now chump logic...

the whott is dead... long live dump :king

[ChumpDumper]

you know the definition of ignore?You were calling me out in another thread Sybil....
I would do it to you but you are such a pompous ass that you've disabled itNot my doing -- and you certainly don't need to read or respond to my posts.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

Dumped.

[spvrs]

did you check the times on those posts? where they before or after I said ignore?



Not my doing

hmmmm..... is this a hypothesis or fact?

p.s. the questions are rhetorical... no need to respond

[ChumpDumper]

did you check the times on those posts? where they before or after I said ignore?you are doing a dandy job of ingnoring me.
hmmmm..... is this a hypothesis or fact?Fact. Not my board.
p.s. the questions are rhetorical... no need to respondI choose to respond -- as do you after you claim to ignore me.

[ChumpDumper]

FYI, you should be able to add me to your ignore list through your control panel.

L'chayim.

[waly.mg]

Rasho x Radmanovic

[Kori Ellis]

Radmanovic wants $9M/year. He's already turned down a 5year/$37M offer from the Sonics. Is he worth $9M?

[Shelly]

Radmanovic wants $9M/year. He's already turned down a 5year/$37M offer from the Sonics. Is he worth $9M?


Only if he comes with corn rows.

[waly.mg]

The question probably is:

For what players you don´t trade Rasho Nesterovic