Game Grades aggregate

[Fabbs]

timvps Game Grades.
Could we be given an aggregate of these for the season?
Month by month too?
Week by week would be cool too.

Any Stats Guy types who can / will do this?

[FromWayDowntown]

If you want it, why not dig in and figure it out?

[ohmwrecker]

If you want it, why not dig in and figure it out?

Yes. Make yourself useful for once.

[hater]

Manu ginobili b-

:lol

[hater]

Taking into account the past weeks, you're being a bit generous

unfortunately it's timvp who is overgenerous in his grades especially with Manu. that's my point

[Phenomanul]

Those weeks wouldn't coincide with the weeks the starting point guard was out injured, would it? Too obvious?

[Fabbs]

If you want it, why not dig in and figure it out?
The obligitory from you and nohpecker. :lol

[FromWayDowntown]

The obligitory from you and nohpecker. :lol

All I asked is why you ask other people to do work to satisfy your curiosity. If you're interested in it, it's easy enough for you to go through the past grades and figure out the averages. Not sure if you choose to be lazy or think these tasks are below you, but you're the one asking the question so it makes sense that you might bother to figure out the answer.

But cool of you to jump right to attacking people without addressing what they've said to you.

[Fabbs]

All I asked is why you ask other people to do work to satisfy your curiosity. If you're interested in it, it's easy enough for you to go through the past grades and figure out the averages. Not sure if you choose to be lazy or think these tasks are below you, but you're the one asking the question so it makes sense that you might bother to figure out the answer.

But cool of you to jump right to attacking people without addressing what they've said to you.
We've been down this road before.
"Other people" are better then me at statistical research and technomological gadgetry thus can do in 60 seconds which would take me a month.
Thus some have done it, the entire board has thus benefited (not just me), such as when per my request you yourself banged out some excellent accurate stats on #1 seeds and where they finished playoffwise.

Ditto with photoshops. Others are vastly superior. They want to and do help.
Thus we get some great 'chops.

[Juggity]

Do you know how to put values in a microsoft excel spreadsheet? Or rather, do you know how to look with your eyes, and type with your fingers on a keyboard?

Here are timvp's grade threads (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/search.php?searchid=13877)

Put all of the numerical values for a given player in a particular column (in recent weeks, timvp hasn't provided a number grade, so come up with a corresponding number grade for each letter, i.e. 100=A+, 95=A, 90=A-, etc.).

Then, highlight the column and use the average function in Microsoft excel to average the column.

There you go. If you don't have microsoft excel, google docs is free.

[Fabbs]

Here are timvp's grade threads (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/search.php?searchid=13877)

Link result:
"Sorry - no matches. Please try some different terms."

[Fabbs]

Do you know how to put values in a microsoft excel spreadsheet? Or rather, do you know how to look with your eyes, and type with your fingers on a keyboard?

Put all of the numerical values for a given player in a particular column (in recent weeks, timvp hasn't provided a number grade, so come up with a corresponding number grade for each letter, i.e. 100=A+, 95=A, 90=A-, etc.).

Then, highlight the column and use the average function in Microsoft word to average the column.

There you go. If you don't have microsoft excel, google docs is free.
http://i3.ytimg.com/vi/jjvQRerJu0g/mqdefault.jpg
Numerous attempts in computer classes have failed.
The classes one and all were stumped as to how smart i was yet how technomologically inept.

[hater]

http://i3.ytimg.com/vi/jjvQRerJu0g/mqdefault.jpg
Numerous attempts in computer classes have failed.
The classes one and all were stumped as to how smart i was yet how technomologically inept.

too bad you have learned the ability to start a thread

[EricB]

Too dumb to write down on a piece of paper players names and grades then averaging them? Than most likely you wouldn't understand it if someone else did it.

[Man In Black]

Sometimes, when you play the Village Idiot...you eventually prove that the role suits you very, very well.

[Fabbs]

The Poppers (or is it The Popper?) is coming in with the witty ones.

[FromWayDowntown]

I'm also curious about why do you need the average of timvp's grades.

Don't you have your own grading (based on your own observations and opinions) done for this season? You rarely seem swayed by opinions that don't conform to your own.

[FromWayDowntown]

n/m

[jestersmash]

Those grades are based on set points that vary from individual to individual. And, those set points even change with changing expectations of what a player can provide for an "average" game.

The first fact makes grade comparisons between players difficult to judge. The second fact makes weekly or monthly averages of grades for any particular player difficult to interpret if you don't have a rigorous way of quantifying those changing expectations.

Example - coming off a reasonably strong showing in the olympics, an 8-17 (20 points) 4 assist 2 turnover game from Manu might have been a B- type game for him. Nowadays, that may very well be a B+ or A- game for Manu, given that our expectations of him have lowered over time.

[Fabbs]

Those grades are based on set points that vary from individual to individual. And, those set points even change with changing expectations of what a player can provide for an "average" game.
While i agree.....
Stats Guy never has verified that has he? I've seen him asked but never answered.
Paraphrasing:
"Bonner did nothing on D other then being a traffic cone, was hesitant on O and passed up numerous shots. That having been said, he didn't strike and kill anyone with his car on the way into the arena." C

[Fabbs]

I'm also curious about why do you need the average of timvp's grades.

Don't you have your own grading (based on your own observations and opinions) done for this season? You rarely seem swayed by opinions that don't conform to your own.
I sincerely think it would be interesting to many and would like to add to the boards overall atmosphere.

Yes i have my own grading system and yes I am rarely swayed by others.
It's not why i am asking, but i think as a side Greg CIA Pop the HOF coach has averaged about a C or less over his last 10 games in timvps grading system.
I'd love to say he is going to turn it up in the playoffs but the days of him having 3 prime HOFs on the floor with the best role players in the game have long since coatailed off.
I'm also very interested in marketing, and like to see how people "buy" even if it's stuff i would never buy and think it's asinine for them to buy.

[ata]

Too dumb to write down on a piece of paper players names and grades then averaging them? Than most likely you wouldn't understand it if someone else did it.
Good point :tu

[ata]

I sincerely think it would be interesting to many and would like to add to the boards overall atmosphere.

Yes i have my own grading system and yes I am rarely swayed by others.
It's not why i am asking, but i think as a side Greg CIA Pop the HOF coach has averaged about a C or less over his last 10 games in timvps grading system.
I'd love to say he is going to turn it up in the playoffs but the days of him having 3 prime HOFs on the floor with the best role players in the game have long since coatailed off.
I'm also very interested in marketing, and like to see how people "buy" even if it's stuff i would never buy and think it's asinine for them to buy.

If you would spend half of the time, you are spending for excuses, to search for timvp's grades, learning spreadsheet and statistics - the table would already be made.

[Fabbs]

If you would spend half of the time, you are spending for excuses, to search for timvp's grades, learning spreadsheet and statistics - the table would already be made.
Wrong.
I just entered in search:
Quick Grades
timvp

The top find was March 22 vs Jazz
Then March 24th vs Rockets.
The next 20 are from 2010.

[Mel_13]

Wrong.
I just entered in search:
Quick Grades
timvp

The top find was March 22 vs Jazz
Then March 24th vs Rockets.
The next 20 are from 2010.

Here ya go:

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/search.php?searchid=13922&pp=

[Fabbs]

Here ya go:

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/search.php?searchid=13922&pp=
Again:
"Sorry - no matches. Please try some different terms."

[Mel_13]

Again:
"Sorry - no matches. Please try some different terms."

When I click on that link I see all threads started by timvp since Sep 28, 2012. If you're seeing something else, then simply do an advanced search for all threads started by timvp in the Spurs Forum for the past 6 months.

[Fabbs]

When I click on that link I see all threads started by timvp since Sep 28, 2012. If you're seeing something else, then simply do an advanced search for all threads started by timvp in the Spurs Forum for the past 6 months.
I chose Thread Titles only
started by timvp.

It's giving me all of his ish since 2004.
Altho a couple down is a good thread entitled
Shaq: Kobe a 'clown' and 'weirdo'
timvp, 10-01-2004 03:14 AM

[Mel_13]

I chose Thread Titles only
started by timvp.

It's giving me all of his ish since 2004.
Altho a couple down is a good thread entitled
Shaq: Kobe a 'clown' and 'weirdo'
timvp, 10-01-2004 03:14 AM

There's a filter to limit the time frame.

[Fabbs]

Wayy too much clicking around, but here goes the last 10
D+
C
A
B-
B-
C-
A
C-
A-
A+

[FromWayDowntown]

I sincerely think it would be interesting to many and would like to add to the boards overall atmosphere.

Frequently, when posters feel that way about a particular topic, they'll start a thread that discusses it. Usually, such posters will complete any necessary research before starting such a topic or while writing about it. It's pretty simple, really.


Yes i have my own grading system and yes I am rarely swayed by others.

Then you're either interested in attacking timvp as a Pop Backer of some sort, or you're thinking you might find some support for your unique views; either way, I'm not sure why you don't just post another thread calling Popovich silly names and criticizing him based on your own opinions and then see who comes to your defense or argues against your conclusions. Who knows: maybe someone will use timvp's grades for the season to try to prove you wrong.

[Darius McCrary]

Player pairs data and team data are better than payer grades aggregate.

[ohmwrecker]

The obligitory from you and nohpecker. :lol

Speaking of obligatory . . . Not your best work, tbh.

[Fabbs]

Frequently, when posters feel that way about a particular topic, they'll start a thread that discusses it. Usually, such posters will complete any necessary research before starting such a topic or while writing about it. It's pretty simple, really.
"Usually" I'll "frequently" do that myself.
Are you now trying to impose your rule that others or just I must "always"?


Then you're either interested in attacking timvp as a Pop Backer of some sort, or you're thinking you might find some support for your unique views;
Timvp generally calls out CIA Pops shortcomings the same as i see them, ie with the pulling of Bowen off Kobme in 2008 Game 1 when up 17 points mid-late 3rd. Certainly not always. Where we disagree is he thinks Pops previous 4 titles entitle him to remain coach for as long as Pop himself chooses. I say the 50+ win seasons and glitzy #1 seeds 2008 onward with playoff sub .500 ball and 1st round ousters is D'Antonish.
At any rate, why would I need some kind of roundabout way to, as you assert "call him out"? We're free on this board to "call others out" if we want to.
He might not attend all the PPoppers parties. He might not attend any. Or perhaps he throws back a few Fuzzy Navels With Chumpshtikkker on occasion out on the patio of the current PPopper party location.
Either way, did not/does not affect this thread.

So no, i did not make this thread for this purpose. As you can read, so far two techy types (well more techy then me anyways) have offered suggestions to easily find the Game Grade Threads that did not work, ie the link that was supposed to have all timvps grades lined up.
I made the thread for exactly what i said i made it for.



either way, I'm not sure why you don't just post another thread calling Popovich silly names and criticizing him based on your own opinions and then see who comes to your defense or argues against your conclusions. Who knows: maybe someone will use timvp's grades for the season to try to prove you wrong
See above. I'm hardly the only Poprealist on the board. Nor do i have to resort to my own multitroll profile(s) for supporting posts. :rollin

Also my PollyAnna Poppers thread was taken down without explanation after a nice 3 year run.

Silly? Just a few:
Leaving Tall Ball in 2006 to get worked by rookie Avery Johnson.
PF/SF extended MrsPopaFinley/Bonner/Soft Dick
Lewie Scola for Greek Never Signed
Splitter Benched. timvp saying early in his rookie season if Popped did not play him alongside Duncs early to get accustomed we were deemed for playoff failure.

[FromWayDowntown]

1. Search function on bar under SpursTalk banner.

2. Click "posts" in Search Types.

3. put "grades" in keyword(s) and change pull down to search for "Search Titles Only"

4. User Name = timvp

See what wonderous things you find . . . .

[Fabbs]

Yes wonderful. :lol
It starts with 2004.

Ok ok put the time frame in.
I did. "3 months"
1st two threads were March 22 and March 24th.
3rd one it jumps all the way back to Jan 3rd
4th older yet
5th older yet etc.

[FromWayDowntown]

You're doing it wrong. The precise search I spelled out for you comes up for me with every game this season in reverse chronological order (i.e., with the Rockets game from 3/24 first).

Can't help you any more than that.

[Brazil]

Yes wonderful. :lol
It starts with 2004.

Ok ok put the time frame in.
I did. "3 months"
1st two threads were March 22 and March 24th.
3rd one it jumps all the way back to Jan 3rd
4th older yet
5th older yet etc.

try with the sort by date function it should help fwiw

[Fabbs]

You're doing it wrong. The precise search I spelled out for you comes up for me with every game this season in reverse chronological order (i.e., with the Rockets game from 3/24 first).

Can't help you any more than that.
You forgot to add
Sort results by Date
In Descending Order.

Otherwise, you have turned this:
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Into this:
http://img.foodnetwork.com/FOOD/2008/08/08/79660_02_Emeril_s4x3_lead.jpg

[FromWayDowntown]

[/Fabbs Hand-Holding]