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FkLA
03-26-2013, 01:48 PM
World Cup Qualifier
9:30 ET on ESPN2

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Blake
03-26-2013, 02:12 PM
Soccer sucks

Clipper Nation
03-26-2013, 02:13 PM
USA vs. UTSA, tbh...

da_suns_fan
03-26-2013, 02:13 PM
Who the hell cares about soccer?

Wake me up when they get rid of the ridiculous "offsides" rule.

FkLA
03-26-2013, 02:19 PM
Who the hell cares about soccer?

Everyone but stupid Americans tbh.

baseline bum
03-26-2013, 02:21 PM
Are you faggots going to throw your bags of piss at the American players again?

Blake
03-26-2013, 02:26 PM
Who the hell cares about soccer?

Wake me up when they get rid of the ridiculous "offsides" rule.

get rid of the goalkeeper and I'll watch.

There's a reason goal tending in basketball is illegal.

KoolAid Mans Brother
03-26-2013, 02:29 PM
:lmaoSoccer
:lmaoover 30% of all soccer games ending in ties
:lmaositting through 2 hours of dirty mexicans chanting stupid shit and then the game ends 0-0
:lmaopaying money to see a game end 0-0
:lmaofans committing suicide and killing players if their team loses
:lmaothinking that the result of a soccer game makes your country "better"
:lmaosoccer players acting like their ankle just got broken and then jumping right back up and running around
:lmaohalf of all soccer players looking like faggots
:lmaopeople dying in soccer stadium riots
:lmaoSoccer

FkLA
03-26-2013, 02:35 PM
get rid of the goalkeeper and I'll watch.

There's a reason goal tending in basketball is illegal.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEUiKTtR5SM

Clipper Nation
03-26-2013, 02:37 PM
:lol Soccer
:lol More fixed than the NBA and NFL combined

http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/8924593/match-fixing-soccer

hater
03-26-2013, 02:46 PM
soccer is still great to watch for some reason. :tu something about the simplicity of the game.

here's to hoping there's another blizzard to help team USA :lol

Blake
03-26-2013, 02:57 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEUiKTtR5SM

a YouTube showing exactly why soccer sucks.

Neat

FkLA
03-26-2013, 03:07 PM
Ignorance.

jeebus
03-26-2013, 03:07 PM
lol soccer. played by third world countries because they lack the facilities and money to build tennis courts, baseball fields, basketball courts, etc. poor people play soccer for the same reason they drink dirty ass water - that's all they can do. And the fact that the US doesn't drink piss water, aka give a shit about soccer, doesn't bother me one bit.

hater
03-26-2013, 03:10 PM
the world gets that most americans don't get soccer

the world also hopes it stays that way :tu

Thebesteva
03-26-2013, 03:12 PM
I actually love The World Cup but never really watch soccer outside of that. I'll be dissapointed if team USA isn't in the WC. Admit it, if team USA was dominating you would be watching that shit and sporting Donovan jerseys. You know that fuckin Koolaid would be a Brazil fan no matter what since he only likes front running teams and Clippers Nation would like Uruguay because of the way it sounds.

hater
03-26-2013, 03:15 PM
I actually love The World Cup but never really watch soccer outside of that.

same here. I like it that way, get my soccer fix every four years and could care less what happens in between.

Soccer is not really a sport that is easy to commercialize, and typical fat american needs multiple bathroom/kitchen breaks in between the action :lol

WC even with it's bumps in the road is still the best sports competition in the world and it's not even close, no not even olympics come close

Blake
03-26-2013, 03:18 PM
Ignorance.

:cry futbol haters are too stupid to understand why a 1-1 score is thrilling :cry

Blake
03-26-2013, 03:22 PM
the world also hopes it stays that way :tu

That could not be any further from the truth.

The "world" would give it's left nut to have Americans join their ass backwards party

Clipper Nation
03-26-2013, 03:25 PM
Soccer is not really a sport that is easy to commercialize
Huh? The players wear ads on their fucking uniforms, all game every game.... :lol

hater
03-26-2013, 03:29 PM
:cry futbol haters are too stupid to understand why a 1-1 score is thrilling :cry

truth bomb tbh :tu


That could not be any further from the truth.

The "world" would give it's left nut to have Americans join their ass backwards party

this is wrong. The world loves their soccer with minimum US involvement. It's a world party and the US is not invited. :tu :tu

hater
03-26-2013, 03:30 PM
Huh? The players wear ads on their fucking uniforms, all game every game.... :lol

that's what they have to resort to, putting ads in players uniforms cause they can't really do much else :lol

jag
03-26-2013, 03:31 PM
There is no lower form of existence in this world than a Mexican soccer fan.

FkLA
03-26-2013, 03:32 PM
:cry futbol haters are too stupid to understand why a 1-1 score is thrilling :cry

Its ignorant because yall niggas have a predisposed dislike for soccer without knowing much about the game. Its no different than people outside the USA that call American football stupid. It always has to turn into a dick measuring contest between the two factions. I enjoy both sports FWIW.

FkLA
03-26-2013, 03:34 PM
There is no lower form of existence in this world than a Mexican soccer fan.

You a badass nigga dawg. If you cared enough and delivered lines like this more often youd be a top ST poster for sure.

snickles
03-26-2013, 03:36 PM
:lmaoSoccer
:lmaosoccer players acting like their ankle just got broken and then jumping right back up and running around


am i the only one who sees the irony here?

da_suns_fan
03-26-2013, 03:37 PM
Goal keeper doesnt bother me.

A rule indicating you cant receive a pass if youre behind a defender does.

Its probably the dumbest rule in all of sports. Heaven forbid you get an advantage over your opponent and goals actually get scored.

hater
03-26-2013, 03:39 PM
Goal keeper doesnt bother me.

A rule indicating you cant receive a pass if youre behind a defender does.

Its probably the dumbest rule in all of sports. Heaven forbid you get an advantage over your opponent and goals actually get scored.

even Hockey has a somewhat similar rule, and other field sports too.

I'm curious as to how you would prevent 3 forwards from camping near the opposing goal all game long?

FkLA
03-26-2013, 03:45 PM
Yeah, in theory it may seem like eliminating the offsides rule would improve scoring and make it more exciting for Americans. But it would get sloppy as hell imo with players camping around the goals...and the tactical aspect of the game would take a hit. Not sure why scoring is so important to some people--a 0-0 game can still be exciting and a goal has alot more value and thus brings more joy than a TD/basket for example.

hater
03-26-2013, 03:48 PM
I would love to see a bit more scoring in soccer, everyone would. And there was a time when scores of 4-2, 6-2 were commonplace. but now the strategies are so that scoring is almost impossible.

The offside rule is not perfect but it's better than nothing. Soccer was formed as a chess battle, each play needs to start with the pieces on opposite sides.

But yeah, maybe something is needed but at the moment, nobody has found what rule change could make scoring easier and keep the spirit. So that's what we end up now. Still greatest sport in history.

Blake
03-26-2013, 03:53 PM
truth bomb tbh :tu

i think the tears cried when soccer fan says that are real.


It's a world party and the US is not invited. :tu :tu

The US hosted it in 1994. :td :td

da_suns_fan
03-26-2013, 03:53 PM
even Hockey has a somewhat similar rule, and other field sports too.

I'm curious as to how you would prevent 3 forwards from camping near the opposing goal all game long?

The same reason that three players dont camp out under a basket in basketball.

hater
03-26-2013, 03:56 PM
The same reason that three players dont camp out under a basket in basketball.

you cannot compare basketball to soccer. the fields are different dimmensions and you can successfully defend a goal with 8 players in soccer vs. 10 as opposed to defending in basketball with 3 vs. 5.

with no offside rule, the ball would just fly back and forth and viewers would need a chiropractor after every game

Blake
03-26-2013, 03:57 PM
Its ignorant because yall niggas have a predisposed dislike for soccer without knowing much about the game. Its no different than people outside the USA that call American football stupid. It always has to turn into a dick measuring contest between the two factions. I enjoy both sports FWIW.

It's actually very different. Roll a ball out into the yard and poof, organized soccer!

Organized tackle football is way too costly and expensive for the vast majority of people in the world to play. Hell, some American colleges can't even afford it.

FkLA
03-26-2013, 03:58 PM
Nah, scoring hasnt decreased much its always been around the same. The problem is a lack of a salary cap for teams, if yall think the NBA superteams are bad its like 100 times worse in soccer...9 times out of 10 the same 2-3 teams end up as champs. Theres usually even a big difference between the mid tier teams and lower tier. Thats what leads to the strategies were the clearly inferior teams pack the bus on their side trying to get a draw or get lucky on a counterattack.

If you ever watch two equally matched teams going at each other its alot more exciting than one team just playing defense all game.

FkLA
03-26-2013, 04:03 PM
It's actually very different. Roll a ball out into the yard and poof, organized soccer!

Organized tackle football is way too costly and expensive for the vast majority of people in the world to play. Hell, some American colleges can't even afford it.

That has nothing to do with both factions having a predisposed dislike for the other sport.

Relevancy
03-26-2013, 04:07 PM
It went from the usual "soccer sucks" to the "lets discuss the rules" kinda topic, I think this belongs in the Futbol section FKLA, it's really hard to discuss the game itself in here because you have people that love saying outlandish things to gain attention.

whitemamba
03-26-2013, 04:10 PM
I would love to see a bit more scoring in soccer, everyone would. And there was a time when scores of 4-2, 6-2 were commonplace. but now the strategies are so that scoring is almost impossible.

The offside rule is not perfect but it's better than nothing. Soccer was formed as a chess battle, each play needs to start with the pieces on opposite sides.

But yeah, maybe something is needed but at the moment, nobody has found what rule change could make scoring easier and keep the spirit. So that's what we end up now. Still greatest sport in history.


the rarity of the goals is what makes the sport great imho, the build to try to score is always entertaining. if goals were getting dropped left and right it wouldnt be as fun to watch, you have to respect how hard it is to score.

whats wrong with the offsides rule, its legit imo

irishock
03-26-2013, 04:11 PM
:lmaoSoccer
:lmaoover 30% of all soccer games ending in ties
:lmaositting through 2 hours of dirty mexicans chanting stupid shit and then the game ends 0-0
:lmaopaying money to see a game end 0-0
:lmaofans committing suicide and killing players if their team loses
:lmaothinking that the result of a soccer game makes your country "better"
:lmaosoccer players acting like their ankle just got broken and then jumping right back up and running around
:lmaohalf of all soccer players looking like faggots
:lmaopeople dying in soccer stadium riots
:lmaoSoccer

Holy shit

DPG21920
03-26-2013, 04:13 PM
Why Soccer is great compared to American sports (and it's the reason most American's don't like it) is because it's creative. Unlike most American major sports (Football, Basketball & Baseball :lol), you don't have timeouts and plays being called - players being told what to do non-stop. In Soccer, it's a free flowing creative sport where you practice strategies but on the field players have to decide for themselves in real time what to do in order to win.

That's the beauty of Soccer and why American's who are used to being told what to do predictably (hey, it's first & goal, let's run 3 straight times up the middle because the coach said so!!!!) don't like it. Too much creativity and flow.

hater
03-26-2013, 04:15 PM
That has nothing to do with both factions having a predisposed dislike for the other sport.

predisposed dislike is a factor, but it's small. I think the biggest ingredient to liking a sport is first having played it, 2nd rooting for a team for an amount of time. Both take certain effort, that is why americans can't really get into it, or why foreigns can't get into football.

hater
03-26-2013, 04:17 PM
the rarity of the goals is what makes the sport great imho, the build to try to score is always entertaining. if goals were getting dropped left and right it wouldnt be as fun to watch, you have to respect how hard it is to score.

yes, but in the 50s and 60s the games might have been more entertaining with scores of 6-4 and 4-3


whats wrong with the offsides rule, its legit imo

it's prone to human error, I'd say about 15% of offside calls are probably erroneous. and those errors can win/lose a game

da_suns_fan
03-26-2013, 04:26 PM
you cannot compare basketball to soccer. the fields are different dimmensions and you can successfully defend a goal with 8 players in soccer vs. 10 as opposed to defending in basketball with 3 vs. 5.

with no offside rule, the ball would just fly back and forth and viewers would need a chiropractor after every game

Nonsense. The number of changes in possession would probably be the same...likewise people dont get whiplash from watching tennis. Your understanding of peripheral vision is lacking.

The truth is its a useless rule that really fucks up the game.

Imagine football if you couldnt catch a pass if you were behind your opponent when the ball was thrown. Imagine what our reaction would be:

"WHAT THE FUCK?!!! Who the fuck cares if youre behind your opponent? Fight for position! Get your ass back! Play the fucking game!"

DPG21920
03-26-2013, 04:30 PM
Nonsense. The number of changes in possession would probably be the same...likewise people dont get whiplash from watching tennis. Your understanding of peripheral vision is lacking.

The truth is its a useless rule that really fucks up the game.

Imagine football if you couldnt catch a pass if you were behind your opponent when the ball was thrown. Imagine what our reaction would be:

"WHAT THE FUCK?!!! Who the fuck cares if youre behind your opponent? Fight for position! Get your ass back! Play the fucking game!"

Just a horrific analogy. In Football the defensive players start way back from the offensive players. In your analogy, it would be more akin to the wide receiver before the ball was snapped, standing behind their defensive counterpart then being able to catch.

Not to mention they have offsides in football too :lol

hater
03-26-2013, 04:31 PM
Nonsense. The number of changes in possession would probably be the same...likewise people dont get whiplash from watching tennis. Your understanding of peripheral vision is lacking.

comparing tennis court to soccer field :rolleyes Have you ever been in a soccer stadium? try sitting in the middle and look at both goals sides constantly.


Imagine football if you couldnt catch a pass if you were behind your opponent when the ball was thrown.

once again you cannot compare football to soccer. 2 different animals. Soccer is free flowing and designed as chess battle. Opponents need to start on opposite sides. Imagine you starting a chess match with your tower next to the opponent queen?

btw, the offside rule is you cannot "start" a pass with your forwards behind enemy lines. If you have fast enough forwards that can get behind enemy lines after you started the pass, it's a legit play. (isn't that the same in football? :lol)

FkLA
03-26-2013, 04:32 PM
the rarity of the goals is what makes the sport great imho, the build to try to score is always entertaining. if goals were getting dropped left and right it wouldnt be as fun to watch, you have to respect how hard it is to score.

whats wrong with the offsides rule, its legit imo


Why Soccer is great compared to American sports (and it's the reason most American's don't like it) is because it's creative. Unlike most American major sports (Football, Basketball & Baseball :lol), you don't have timeouts and plays being called - players being told what to do non-stop. In Soccer, it's a free flowing creative sport where you practice strategies but on the field players have to decide for themselves in real time what to do in order to win.

That's the beauty of Soccer and why American's who are used to being told what to do predictably (hey, it's first & goal, let's run 3 straight times up the middle because the coach said so!!!!) don't like it. Too much creativity and flow.

:tu


Nonsense. The number of changes in possession would probably be the same...likewise people dont get whiplash from watching tennis. Your understanding of peripheral vision is lacking.

The truth is its a useless rule that really fucks up the game.

Imagine football if you couldnt catch a pass if you were behind your opponent when the ball was thrown. Imagine what our reaction would be:

"WHAT THE FUCK?!!! Who the fuck cares if youre behind your opponent? Fight for position! Get your ass back! Play the fucking game!"

No it would actually be equivalent to a WR being ahead of a DB pre-snap. Soccer is non-stop for 45 minutes so the rule kinda serves the same purpose that lining up prior to a play in football serves.

hater
03-26-2013, 04:37 PM
lining up prior to a play in football serves.

and this is the reason why I and probably rest of the world cannot get into football. The ridiculous waiting for the lining up before every play is insane. before every fucking play, it's akin to playing a nice song and pausing it for 2 minutes after every verse :lol

da_suns_fan
03-26-2013, 04:44 PM
Lining up doesnt give the defense an unfair advanatge the way the off-sides rule does. In football, if you are faster than your defender, you can run RIGHT BY HIM and not even worry if the ball has been passed yet.

Imagine BASKETBALL if you couldnt receive a pass if you were behind your opponent when the ball was thrown?

Once again, its a stupid fucking rule. You guys enjoy. THe rest of us will miss the 1-1 snooze-fest where defenses are given an artificial advantage.

DPG21920
03-26-2013, 04:46 PM
Lining up doesnt give the defense an unfair advanatge the way the off-sides rule does. If you are faster than your defender, you can run RIGHT BY HIM and not even worry if the ball has been passed yet.

Imagine BASKETBALL if you couldnt receive a pass if you were behind your opponent when the ball was thrown?

Once again, its a stupid fucking rule. You guys enjoy. THe rest of us will miss the 1-1 snooze-fest where defenses are given an artificial advantage.

Are you serious. If in Soccer, the forward had to line up even with everyone in front of the defense there would be no offsides.

da_suns_fan
03-26-2013, 04:47 PM
Are you serious. If in Soccer, the forward had to line up even with everyone in front of the defense there would be no offsides.

That made absolutely no sense.

Something else that doesnt make sense: Soccer is a supposedly "free flowing" game (unlike football) yet it has this "offsides" rule that absolutely stops where you can go and who you can pass to.

Fucking. Stupid.

DPG21920
03-26-2013, 04:48 PM
You have terrible logic sir.

hater
03-26-2013, 04:50 PM
Lining up doesnt give the defense an unfair advanatge the way the off-sides rule does. In football, if you are faster than your defender, you can run RIGHT BY HIM and not even worry if the ball has been passed yet.

again, in football you stop after every play. You cannot seriously compare the 2.



Imagine BASKETBALL if you couldnt receive a pass if you were behind your opponent when the ball was thrown?

except this is not basketball it's soccer. what about hockey offsides, do you think that's dumb too? it's the same principle



Once again, its a stupid fucking rule. You guys enjoy. THe rest of us will miss the 1-1 snooze-fest where defenses are given an artificial advantage.

not a stupid rule. It's not perfect and prone to human error, but soccer with offside rules is a lot better than the comedic mess soccer without would be.

hater
03-26-2013, 04:51 PM
That made absolutely no sense.

Something else that doesnt make sense: Soccer is a supposedly "free flowing" game (unlike football) yet it has this "offsides" rule that absolutely stops where you can go and who you can pass to.

Fucking. Stupid.

every free flowing sport including basketball, hockey, rugby, etc has rules and game stoppages, otherwise it'd be a jumbled mess :rolleyes

da_suns_fan
03-26-2013, 05:02 PM
every free flowing sport including basketball, hockey, rugby, etc has rules and game stoppages, otherwise it'd be a jumbled mess :rolleyes

Nonsense.

Basketball has rules such as you cant foul. I have no problems with soccer penalizing for fouls. But penalizing a player for passing to another player on the same team because that players position relative to another player for absolutely no reason is absolutely not "free flowing".

In basketball, you can pass to anyone, anytime and anywhere (inside the court). Yet we dont have multiple players camping out under the basket.

Its fucking stupid and it gives the defense an unfair advantage and this is why scores are so ridiculously low.

But if you enjoy artificial advantages and hours of NOTHING HAPPENING, then by all means watch your soccer!!

Ciao!

hater
03-26-2013, 05:04 PM
I'm gonna have to disagree. Again, without offside in soccer, forwards would just camp near the goals and game would consist of kicking the ball from one end of the field to the other without any midfield game (which is the strongest aspect of soccer), and without much strategy. It would be awful to watch such a sport.

Pop
03-26-2013, 05:04 PM
The offside rule has the same purpose as the 3 seconds rules, it's to prevent camping.

DPG21920
03-26-2013, 05:06 PM
Nonsense.

Basketball has rules such as you cant foul. I have no problems with soccer penalizing for fouls. But penalizing a player for passing to another player on the same team because that players position relative to another player for absolutely no reason is absolutely not "free flowing".

In basketball, you can pass to anyone, anytime and anywhere (inside the court). Yet we dont have multiple players camping out under the basket.

Its fucking stupid and it gives the defense an unfair advantage and this is why scores are so ridiculously low.

But if you enjoy artificial advantages and hours of NOTHING HAPPENING, then by all means watch your soccer!!

Ciao!

Now I know you are trolling. If you aren't, I just gave you an out to play this off :lol. You are welcome.

Reck
03-26-2013, 05:09 PM
:lol Soccer
:lol More fixed than the NBA and NFL combined

http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/8924593/match-fixing-soccer

http://diegoguevara.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/TheeBlog-TwoEscobars.jpg

:lol corrupted as fuck too.

baseline bum
03-26-2013, 05:10 PM
There is no lower form of existence in this world than a Mexican soccer fan.

Illegal Mexican soccer fan in LA is worse tbh.

Pelicans78
03-26-2013, 05:12 PM
Nonsense.

Basketball has rules such as you cant foul. I have no problems with soccer penalizing for fouls. But penalizing a player for passing to another player on the same team because that players position relative to another player for absolutely no reason is absolutely not "free flowing".

In basketball, you can pass to anyone, anytime and anywhere (inside the court). Yet we dont have multiple players camping out under the basket.

Its fucking stupid and it gives the defense an unfair advantage and this is why scores are so ridiculously low.

But if you enjoy artificial advantages and hours of NOTHING HAPPENING, then by all means watch your soccer!!

Ciao!

Is the offsides rule any different from "3 seconds in the lane". That's not allowed in basketball. Otherwise people would camp under the basket.

FkLA
03-26-2013, 05:14 PM
http://diegoguevara.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/TheeBlog-TwoEscobars.jpg

:lol corrupted as fuck too.

Do you even know the Escobar story? That is not a case of corruption little nigga.

Clipper Nation
03-26-2013, 05:15 PM
and this is the reason why I and probably rest of the world cannot get into football. The ridiculous waiting for the lining up before every play is insane. before every fucking play, it's akin to playing a nice song and pausing it for 2 minutes after every verse :lol
Yeah, but that's because there's actual strategy involved in American football in choosing the plays to run, the formations, presnap shifts, etc.... it's not a cheap-ass third world "sport" of kicking a ball around and still not scoring any goals.....

Reck
03-26-2013, 05:16 PM
I actually love The World Cup but never really watch soccer outside of that. I'll be dissapointed if team USA isn't in the WC. Admit it, if team USA was dominating you would be watching that shit and sporting Donovan jerseys. You know that fuckin Koolaid would be a Brazil fan no matter what since he only likes front running teams and Clippers Nation would like Uruguay because of the way it sounds.

The World Cup has a different atmosphere.

Its like watching a sport in the summer olympics you would otherwise not watch if it wasn't because its an event that occurs every 4 years.

da_suns_fan
03-26-2013, 05:21 PM
Is the offsides rule any different from "3 seconds in the lane". That's not allowed in basketball. Otherwise people would camp under the basket.

Except a couple of key differences:

1) This rule exists on offense and defense. You cant stand in the lane on offense or defense for more than three seconds. In soccer, there is no "defensive off-sides". Thus the unfair advantage to the team with the lead.

2) The NBA rule indicates you cant "camp out" in a given area of the court. It has nothing do with the position of your defenders.

3) If an NBA team wanted to, they could still "camp out" outside the lane all they want. The real reason the three second rule exists isnt to prevent "camping" but to prevent extremely large players (like Shaq) from completely dominating every game. Maybe that too is a dumb rule, but in no way the three second rule interrupts the flow of the game the way offsides interrupts soccer.

DMC
03-26-2013, 05:21 PM
The sweet stench of road tar, lard induced sweat cakes and Lite beer. Greased, slicked back hair with 2" foreheads. Built in shit colored tan and 15 to a car. Mexican soccer at its finest.

hater
03-26-2013, 05:26 PM
Yeah, but that's because there's actual strategy involved in American football in choosing the plays to run, the formations, presnap shifts, etc.... it's not a cheap-ass third world "sport" of kicking a ball around and still not scoring any goals.....

as someone else said, soccer is more creative than football as it involves players using their brains rather than following coaches directions. it's just a more beautiful sport plain and simple.

jeebus
03-26-2013, 05:27 PM
The sweet stench of road tar, lard induced sweat cakes and Lite beer. Greased, slicked back hair with 2" foreheads. Built in shit colored tan and 15 to a car. Mexican soccer at its finest.
:cry but it's free flowing and beautiful! you dumb americans can't understand that and the world hates you! :cry

DPG21920
03-26-2013, 05:34 PM
Yeah, but that's because there's actual strategy involved in American football in choosing the plays to run, the formations, presnap shifts, etc.... it's not a cheap-ass third world "sport" of kicking a ball around and still not scoring any goals.....

:lmao Saying American Football has strategy. American Football quite easily has the worst coaching in all of sports. Not only are they stuck in the stone ages, they lack any creativity at all. That's why when one random coach actually goes for it on fourth down he's lauded as some kind of wild gun slinger and why announcers say things like "you can't do x because of momentum" even though it's quite clearly the correct call.

hater
03-26-2013, 05:36 PM
:lol true

football is such an artificial sport, it's even played on fake grass :lmao

Clipper Nation
03-26-2013, 05:38 PM
Yeah, quite a few coaches are overconservative, but even the most pussy conservative playbook contains more strategy than "kick ball, miss goal, repeat," tbh....

DPG21920
03-26-2013, 05:42 PM
Yeah, quite a few coaches are overconservative, but even the most pussy conservative playbook contains more strategy than "kick ball, miss goal, repeat," tbh....

No. That would be like watching Checkers (American Football) & saying it has more strategy than Chess (Real Football) because you get to hop all around the board and stack checkers on top of each other when you're "kinged" :lol

jag
03-26-2013, 05:44 PM
Illegal Mexican soccer fan in LA is worse tbh.

True. Illegal Mexican soccer fan in LA with 3 anchor babies.

DUNCANownsKOBE
03-26-2013, 05:50 PM
Everyone but stupid Americans tbh.

I thought you were an American?

jag
03-26-2013, 05:51 PM
DPG is off base and out of his element. Just because he doesn't understand some of the more complex strategies involved in American football, doesn't mean those strategies aren't employed.

Both soccer and American football involve a wide range of complex strategies and formations. I'm not really sure you can say one is more involved than the other.

DPG21920
03-26-2013, 05:52 PM
DPG is off base and out of his element. Just because he doesn't understand some of the more complex strategies involved in American football, doesn't mean those strategies aren't employed.

Both soccer and American football involve a wide range of complex strategies and formations. I'm not really sure you can say one is more involved than the other.

I most definitely understand football (I had a better betting record and dropped more truth bombs than nearly any poster over the past two years in there). I never said there werent strategies. I said the strategies employed are from the stone ages and lack creativity.

jag
03-26-2013, 06:04 PM
I most definitely understand football (I had a better betting record and dropped more truth bombs than nearly any poster over the past two years in there). I never said there werent strategies. I said the strategies employed are from the stone ages and lack creativity.

I disagree that they aren't employed. You should read up on the One-back clinic and what coaches like Holgorsen and Sumlin are doing. The offense run by Bob Stitt is most certainly not from the "stone ages."

If you want to look at the NFL, then the Patriots are a good example of a team not using strategies from the stone ages. The 2 TE spread (sometimes hurry-up) is not exactly common or old school.

Defenses are also changing to keep up with the increase in passing. That's a different discussion though.

Floyd Pacquiao
03-26-2013, 06:05 PM
In America only illegal mexicans and pre pubecent girls play soccer

DAF86
03-26-2013, 06:16 PM
"People like soccer 'cause is cheap" is one of the most retarded established arguments ever.

first, if you really want to play a sport you can do it. I know kids that play baseball with sticks and tennis balls, not far ago I saw a TV program showing how a group of poor people (and when I say poor I mean "one meal per day if you're lucky" poor) got toghether and made a golf field and sticks to play the sport. To play American football you need the same thing you need to play soccer, tbh: a football.

Second, you don't need to play a sport to like it. I've never played American football in my life and I like the NFL.

hater
03-26-2013, 06:23 PM
never said you "need" to play a sport in order to like it. I said it's a big factor in whether you become a fan of the sport. and it is. 2nd factor is to adopt a team and follow it.

I tried my best to like football, even tried to adopt the redskins and cowboys. Watched a few games and participated in multiple of those strange ceremonies they call superbowl parties, where ppl stuff their faces with nachos beer and beef chili. Even went to a few suite parties in the NFL stadiums.(pretty good food, even better women, but most ppl there don't even watch the game :lol) Nothing worked. It's just not for me and that is ok. It's also ok that soccer is not for 2/3rds of america. It's actually better that way.

Blake
03-26-2013, 07:21 PM
I disagree that they aren't employed. You should read up on the One-back clinic and what coaches like Holgorsen and Sumlin are doing. The offense run by Bob Stitt is most certainly not from the "stone ages."

If you want to look at the NFL, then the Patriots are a good example of a team not using strategies from the stone ages. The 2 TE spread (sometimes hurry-up) is not exactly common or old school.

Defenses are also changing to keep up with the increase in passing. That's a different discussion though.

DPG dropping duds Avante style

Stone age offense was three yards and a cloud of dust. Today, passing/total offense records continue to be shattered in wide open offenses.

A 3-2 score in soccer is a wild shootout the same today as it was in the Stone Age.

DAF86
03-26-2013, 07:42 PM
DPG dropping duds Avante style

Stone age offense was three yards and a cloud of dust. Today, passing/total offense records continue to be shattered in wide open offenses.

A 3-2 score in soccer is a wild shootout the same today as it was in the Stone Age.

In the "stone age" of soccer a normal result was something like 5-2, 5-3.

FkLA
03-26-2013, 08:13 PM
I thought you were an American?

Im a Permanent Resident, not a citizen...but even if I was Im not stupid and ignorant when it comes to the game of soccer. Not all Americans are like that, thats why I specifically mentioned the stupid ones.

Latarian Milton
03-26-2013, 08:21 PM
ain't there a soccer forum down there?

baseline bum
03-26-2013, 08:28 PM
Im a Permanent Resident, not a citizen...but even if I was Im not stupid and ignorant when it comes to the game of soccer. Not all Americans are like that, thats why I specifically mentioned the stupid ones.

Fucking shit, you're not an American but Texas citizens get to subsidize your tuition at lolUTSA?

Relevancy
03-26-2013, 08:32 PM
Mexico Mexico Mexico!

Mao Zedong
03-26-2013, 08:32 PM
same here. I like it that way, get my soccer fix every four years and could care less what happens in between.

Soccer is not really a sport that is easy to commercialize, and typical fat american needs multiple bathroom/kitchen breaks in between the action :lol

WC even with it's bumps in the road is still the best sports competition in the world and it's not even close, no not even olympics come close

QFT

jeebus
03-26-2013, 08:36 PM
ain't there a soccer forum down there?
why would he start a thread down there when it's just as easy to cross the border illegally in the NBA forum and make it here? more opportunities here tbh

td4mvp2k
03-26-2013, 08:36 PM
Fucking shit, you're not an American but Texas citizens get to subsidize your tuition at lolUTSA?

:lol why u on him? get on f'n obama

Relevancy
03-26-2013, 08:38 PM
mexico va a ganar por dos goles y los americanos van a estar muy tristes:lmao

whitemamba
03-26-2013, 08:41 PM
yes, but in the 50s and 60s the games might have been more entertaining with scores of 6-4 and 4-3


but that goes back to me saying its more entertaining that not as many goals are scored.. if we expect 10 goals a game that takes the rarity of goals away thus taking away one of the best parts of the sport, than thats a whole different thing. I do love watching soccer games because its so exciting when a goal almost or goes in.Coaches are not up players asses every 3 seconds telling them what to do, i love that its a free flow type of sport. there is no comparison between soccer and football baseball, soccer trumps that shit.

hater
03-26-2013, 08:42 PM
tbh if the corporations were to get together and create a new sport, an ideal sport for selling merchandise, food, drinks and with enough interruptions to take even the last cent from the stupid fat ignorant masses and make sure they are well fed and shitted in order to continue watching the commerials till the last second, that sport would pretty much look like today's American Football

well ideally the corporations would eventually replace the black uniformed humans making millions with robots and then that'd be their ideal sport.

baseline bum
03-26-2013, 08:44 PM
tbh if the corporations were to get together and create a new sport, an ideal sport for selling merchandise, food, drinks and with enough interruptions to take even the last cent from the stupid fat ignorant masses and make sure they are well fed and shitted in order to continue watching the commerials till the last second, that sport would pretty much look like today's American Football

Once a week isn't ideal tbh.

FkLA
03-26-2013, 08:46 PM
Fucking shit, you're not an American but Texas citizens get to subsidize your tuition at lolUTSA?

Yeah, u mad ?

Bill_Brasky
03-26-2013, 08:46 PM
why would he start a thread down there when it's just as easy to cross the border illegally in the NBA forum and make it here? more opportunities here tbh

:lmao

hater
03-26-2013, 08:47 PM
Once a week isn't ideal tbh.

yes, ideally 3 times a week double headers. and don't forget the robots. not quite there but close

and what about the black folk that used to wear the uniforms you say? well, they can still wear the uniforms and somebody gotta maintain the robots :lol

Blake
03-26-2013, 08:48 PM
In the "stone age" of soccer a normal result was something like 5-2, 5-3.

So it's getting worse.

Latarian Milton
03-26-2013, 08:53 PM
why would he start a thread down there when it's just as easy to cross the border illegally in the NBA forum and make it here? more opportunities here tbh
5 star post, will read again and recommend to my friends

benefactor
03-26-2013, 08:55 PM
why would he start a thread down there when it's just as easy to cross the border illegally in the NBA forum and make it here? more opportunities here tbh
http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view/13975/earl-campbell-headbutt-o.gif

FkLA
03-26-2013, 08:57 PM
I still cant believe yall find jeebus' forced, corny ass shit funny. :lol

Killakobe81
03-26-2013, 09:00 PM
So it's getting worse.

LOL ...goods.

But I enjoy football, american football and basketball.
They all employ strategy and have a beauty to them in their own ways ...
I will say this I apprreciate soccer more now than I did as a kid because I did think it was boring even though the country where my family is from (belize) they love the sport. Being born in the US I thought it slow ...

Now I coach and ref games in Frisco and Plano and enjoy the game at the youth level far more than when I coached and reffed basketball. The skill hand and mostly foot eye co-ordination it takes is remarkable.

jeebus
03-26-2013, 09:03 PM
I still cant believe yall find jeebus' forced, corny ass shit funny. :lol
the opportunity presented itself.

FkLA
03-26-2013, 09:09 PM
its on ESPN not ESPN2 :wow

DMC
03-26-2013, 09:09 PM
:cry but it's free flowing and beautiful! you dumb americans can't understand that and the world hates you! :cry

It's the Somalia of the Americas.

FkLA
03-26-2013, 09:10 PM
the opportunity presented itself.

and you took it and displayed your comedic genius, right ?

KoolAid Mans Brother
03-26-2013, 09:16 PM
I can't even imagine how bad that stadium must smell right now.

Bill_Brasky
03-26-2013, 09:23 PM
I still cant believe yall find jeebus' forced, corny ass shit funny. :lol

That one comment alone was funnier than anything I've ever seen you post.

Relevancy
03-26-2013, 09:30 PM
I can't even imagine how bad that stadium must smell right now.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DBuk91phkI

Relevancy
03-26-2013, 09:32 PM
and you took it and displayed your comedic genius, right ?Yup, I remember seeing a previous encounter between these two on ESPN awhile back, when Oswaldo Sanchez tried to injured that USA player:lmao

Thebesteva
03-26-2013, 09:35 PM
Whats on the line for this game? I mean whats this for? An opportunity to play in the WC?

Relevancy
03-26-2013, 09:56 PM
I like how the USA is playing, they want to play at a calm pace rather then run all over the field for nothing

DPG21920
03-26-2013, 10:08 PM
I am ashamed of USA soccer at the moment.

Latarian Milton
03-26-2013, 10:16 PM
the golden age for US soccer was in the early half of 2000s, when the US soccer team could make the quarter finals in world cup but with the niggas like mcbride and reyna retired and donovan turned shitbag, the US ain't no longer relevent in the soccer world imho. they can still qualify for the world cup from the north america & carribean region but that doesn't say much when the region might be just as weak as asia tbh

Thebesteva
03-26-2013, 10:23 PM
the golden age for US soccer was in the early half of 2000s, when the US soccer team could make the quarter finals in world cup but with the niggas like mcbride and reyna retired and donovan turned shitbag, the US ain't no longer relevent in the soccer world imho. they can still qualify for the world cup from the north america & carribean region but that doesn't say much when the region might be just as weak as asia tbh

This...I thought that was the turning point of USA soccer. That team was world class level, it should have beaten Germany that year if it wasnt for that hand ball by Germany. The team has been back to being a disgrace in the World Cup since.

hater
03-26-2013, 10:27 PM
When a fag called landon is your best player you know you in a world of hurt

baseline bum
03-26-2013, 10:39 PM
Is it still 0-0?

PingPong
03-26-2013, 10:44 PM
Mexico Mexico Mexico!
Mehico! Mehico! Mehico! If I'm not mistaken, the best mexican striker is a brazilian-parented wich was born in México because his brazilian father was playing there. That's a good way to U.S. getting good strikers and be competitive at the World Cup. Start offering scolarship for the slum boys from Brazil, Argentina and África and draft them to the U.S pro league.

hater
03-26-2013, 10:48 PM
Dont get me wrong. Mexico is even more pathetic. A country with what 100 million ppl, their #1 sport is soccer by far and still cannot manage to beat usa at home :lmao they should just give up. They even hosted what 2 world cups? And have probably 3rd or 4th best infraestructure in america.

:lmao mexico

hater
03-26-2013, 10:51 PM
Mehico! Mehico! Mehico! If I'm not mistaken, the best mexican striker is a brazilian-parented wich was born in México because his brazilian father was playing there. That's a good way to U.S. getting good strikers and be competitive at the World Cup. Start offering scolarship for the slum boys from Brazil, Argentina and África and draft them to the U.S pro league.

What brazilian boys? Drop ship about 1000 brazilian bitches in the middle of both compton and harlem.

Then youll have some american soccer legends :lol

Floyd Pacquiao
03-26-2013, 10:52 PM
lol soccer
lol 0-0
lol mexicans love soccer but suck at it

Clipper Nation
03-26-2013, 10:55 PM
That one comment alone was funnier than anything I've ever seen you post.

"Diaw > Lee" was pretty (unintentionally) funny, tbh....

midnightpulp
03-26-2013, 10:55 PM
I haven't read the thread, nor am I watching the game, but I'm stopping to say that FKLA better be cheering for the US of A.

PingPong
03-26-2013, 10:56 PM
What brazilian boys? Drop ship about 1000 brazilian bitches in the middle of both compton and harlem.

Then youll have some american soccer legends :lol

No way! They need the right environment to be great soccer players. Something like bigger kids trying to break their legs while playing in shitty fields. Being born and raised in U.S. will make them the same stiff american soccer players. :lol

hater
03-26-2013, 10:58 PM
Maybe but in case od brazil soccer has manged to get in their dna

I met brazilian guys that even hated soccer and played basketball. The rare times we ended up playing soccer :wow they would embarrass evryone else

KoolAid Mans Brother
03-26-2013, 11:23 PM
:lmaositting through 2 hours of dirty mexicans chanting stupid shit and then the game ends 0-0
:lmaopaying money to see a game end 0-0

:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

Relevancy
03-26-2013, 11:25 PM
Mexico:lmao:lmao what a pathetic display smh

jeebus
03-26-2013, 11:29 PM
:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao
so much for all that strategic beautiful game bullshit.

Thebesteva
03-26-2013, 11:30 PM
The children will be leaving ****** stadium very sadly tonight

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRrEgIrX5lAPKSF0HgS7Du-1C9JwZajMmI5BBjfQbhqig5FltoLXg

FkLA
03-26-2013, 11:32 PM
There was a point when getting a draw from The Azteca was a miracle. Park the bus on your side of the field now and youre almost guaranteed a draw, might even get a win if you get lucky with a counterattack. So sad how much theyve fallen off tbh. :depressed

baseline bum
03-26-2013, 11:36 PM
:lol Mexico
:lol can't beat the shitty US soccer team on their own home field
:lol can't drink their own tap water
:lol can't flush their toilet paper
:lol can't do shit when abuelita gets kidnapped
:lol getting shaken down by la policia constantly for bribes
:lol rest of North America prosperous, but they're still stuck in the 3rd world
:lol Team USA going Cortez on Mexico in the World Cup
:lol all the illegals 10x more pissed off than they were on si se puede day

FkLA
03-26-2013, 11:36 PM
That one comment alone was funnier than anything I've ever seen you post.

You sure love you some jeebus bro. Every time I mention how unfunny he is youre there without fail to suck him off tbh. :lol

FkLA
03-26-2013, 11:41 PM
:lol can't flush their toilet paper


This cracks me up every time tbh. My mom and aunts still put up a trash can for toilet paper in the restroom cause theyre used to the Mexican plumbing...the first time I had American friends come to my house they were like wtf. :lol


I haven't read the thread, nor am I watching the game, but I'm stopping to say that FKLA better be cheering for the US of A.

http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.205276.1314082088!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_635/alg-citifield-mexico-jpg.jpg

DPG21920
03-26-2013, 11:44 PM
I'm still pretty disheartened about our team. Sure, the result was great and that is important right now,but truly good teams don't just play like USA did. The first half was horrific, second half was a little cleaner, but they aren't good enough to just play their game and beat teams - they rely on trash and gimmicks at the moment which seems like a big step backwards.

Flawless
03-26-2013, 11:49 PM
I was hoping Mexico would win, oh well better luck next time...

FkLA
03-26-2013, 11:55 PM
I'm still pretty disheartened about our team. Sure, the result was great and that is important right now,but truly good teams don't just play like USA did. The first half was horrific, second half was a little cleaner, but they aren't good enough to just play their game and beat teams - they rely on trash and gimmicks at the moment which seems like a big step backwards.

Id be thrilled if I was a USA NT fan tbh. No hate or anything but its a pretty limited team talent wise, especially in the skill positions. Its basically Dempsey, Bradley, Howard (who was out today) and a bunch of MLS caliber players. Right now their best bet against better teams is to do what they did today and pack the bus on their side, take the draw or maybe get lucky with a counterattack.

DPG21920
03-27-2013, 12:00 AM
That's my point. There was a time in the recent years where USA was ranked near the top 10. They have taken a step backwards and that is unacceptable.

FkLA
03-27-2013, 12:08 AM
Meh cant expect to produce consistent talent when its the 4th-5th most popular sport. Their strategy was aimed at getting a draw and they achieved that. I understand that its not a good sign for soccer in the USA in the grand scheme of things, but if were being realistic about this teams potential...it was a great result for today.

Latarian Milton
03-27-2013, 12:26 AM
holding be@ners to a draw is worth exact as much boast as being a mexican tbh. mexico might have a better soccer team than US and a draw ain't a bad result for the US of A but it's not like there're many americans who give a flying shit about any soccer games tbh.

Fpoonsie
03-27-2013, 12:31 AM
When nil-nil in a sporting event is considered a "win," we all lose.

hater
03-27-2013, 01:15 AM
:lmao mexico should be banned from soccer for their pathenicness

Didnt aztecs play some kind of soccer back in their golden age? :lmao

they can execute 7 people and arrange them in chairs on d highway. But they cannot score against usa at home :lol

FkLA
03-27-2013, 01:17 AM
Mexico has only lost at the Azteca one time during qualifiers all-time. The USA had gotten one draw there during qualifiers prior to today and lost every other single time. Even during their golden era during 02-06 the USA was still losing at the Azteca. You guys are underselling how good this draw was imo, especially for a team with limited talent.

benefactor
03-27-2013, 06:02 AM
:lmaositting through 2 hours of dirty mexicans chanting stupid shit and then the game ends 0-0
:lmaopaying money to see a game end 0-0

Nice call, tbh.

BUMP
03-27-2013, 06:30 AM
The reason I don't like soccer is not because it's boring, but growing up I knew that the best competition was overseas and not here. When you're only exposed to subpar play you don't get too interested which is why I get into the World Cup but not the MLS or w/e it's called.

jag
03-27-2013, 07:44 AM
why would he start a thread down there when it's just as easy to cross the border illegally in the NBA forum and make it here? more opportunities here tbh

http://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/Kevin-Garnett-Reaction-at-2013-Dunk-Contest.gif

jag
03-27-2013, 08:17 AM
Grant Wahl ‏@GrantWahl 3m
Press section getting hit with objects from above. Female NPR journo hit in the back. Here we go.

Angry + Third World = someone is getting hit with something

http://shalomrav.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/beth-stones.jpg

DUNCANownsKOBE
03-27-2013, 08:20 AM
:lmaoSoccer
:lmaoover 30% of all soccer games ending in ties
:lmaositting through 2 hours of dirty mexicans chanting stupid shit and then the game ends 0-0
:lmaopaying money to see a game end 0-0
:lmaofans committing suicide and killing players if their team loses
:lmaothinking that the result of a soccer game makes your country "better"
:lmaosoccer players acting like their ankle just got broken and then jumping right back up and running around
:lmaohalf of all soccer players looking like faggots
:lmaopeople dying in soccer stadium riots
:lmaoSoccer

:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

PingPong
03-27-2013, 08:58 AM
Angry + Third World = someone is getting hit with something

http://shalomrav.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/beth-stones.jpg

That's the palestinian playing their #1 sport: trowing stones to the israelis.

Relevancy
03-27-2013, 09:45 AM
Mexico has only lost at the Azteca one time during qualifiers all-time. The USA had gotten one draw there during qualifiers prior to today and lost every other single time. Even during their golden era during 02-06 the USA was still losing at the Azteca. You guys are underselling how good this draw was imo, especially for a team with limited talent.Remember when you told me getting a positive result at the Azteca was a difficult task for the opposing team? I think it's pretty safe to say stadiums aren't a protection shield for hometown teams.

BobaFett1
03-27-2013, 12:55 PM
I actually love The World Cup but never really watch soccer outside of that. I'll be dissapointed if team USA isn't in the WC. Admit it, if team USA was dominating you would be watching that shit and sporting Donovan jerseys. You know that fuckin Koolaid would be a Brazil fan no matter what since he only likes front running teams and Clippers Nation would like Uruguay because of the way it sounds.

^^^^ the truth^^^^

Man In Black
03-27-2013, 12:56 PM
Goal keeper doesnt bother me.

A rule indicating you cant receive a pass if youre behind a defender does.

Its probably the dumbest rule in all of sports. Heaven forbid you get an advantage over your opponent and goals actually get scored.
If you think about it, it's the lane restrictions for the 3 second rule. Offsides and 3 second rule are kind of related in that they restrict an offensive player from gaining an advantage by camping.

FkLA
03-27-2013, 01:28 PM
Remember when you told me getting a positive result at the Azteca was a difficult task for the opposing team? I think it's pretty safe to say stadiums aren't a protection shield for hometown teams.

It was true prior to this hexagonal tbh. :depressed

hater
03-27-2013, 02:08 PM
seriously thou

mexico has no excuse.

Some countries like Bhutan and USA have excuses. In USA soccer is only played at youth level for the most part. In Bhutan, the population is small.

Mexico has 100 million soccer fans, not to mention arguably richest soccer league in America and they can't even manage to dominate the measly countries of CONCACAF.:lmao

Latarian Milton
03-27-2013, 09:46 PM
seriously thou

mexico has no excuse.

Some countries like Bhutan and USA have excuses. In USA soccer is only played at youth level for the most part. In Bhutan, the population is small.

Mexico has 100 million soccer fans, not to mention arguably richest soccer league in America and they can't even manage to dominate the measly countries of CONCACAF.:lmao
obesity might be a legit excuse for them imho. soccer ain't a game for fatasses to play, i mean in basketball you can be a fatass and still be a good player (like shaq post 30yr old) but in a soccer game you have to run all over the pitch throughout the game (unless you play as the goal keeper) and that's beyond what a fatass can do tbh. mexicans need to change their diet significantly before they can dominate the region

Latarian Milton
03-27-2013, 09:50 PM
mexico es el retrete de los estados unidos, ellos comen nuestras mierdas.