Economist: Climate science -- A sensitive matter

[DarrinS]

Lol, Mann to the rescue.

"How the Economist got it wrong"

http://www.abc.net.au/environment/articles/2013/04/12/3735095.htm


Comments below the article are pretty funny.

[MannyIsGod]

lol, ad hominem bs.


I'm lmao because that is Figure 1.4 from the IPCC AR5 draft that was leaked in December. :lmao at Manny and Random. Take your complaints to the IPCC

i'm LMAO beause the bottom figure isn't the one you posted and IPCC the report is still going revisions as we speak.

I'm further LOLing because this is exactly the type of analysis associated with someone who is uneducated. I don't get why you didn't embrace your ignorance like wild cobra, though. You must recognize that a scientific degree is worth something because you lie about having one.

[MannyIsGod]

From the Reuters article:


The IPCC has consistently said that fluctuations in the weather, perhaps caused by variations in sunspots or a La Nina cooling of the Pacific, can mask any warming trend and the panel has never predicted a year-by-year rise in temperatures.

People here what they want.

[DarrinS]

i'm LMAO beause the bottom figure isn't the one you posted and IPCC the report is still going revisions as we speak.

I'm further LOLing because this is exactly the type of analysis associated with someone who is uneducated. I don't get why you didn't embrace your ignorance like wild cobra, though. You must recognize that a scientific degree is worth something because you lie about having one.

lol, more ad hominem bs

I was taking thermodynamics and fluid mechanics when you were putting tinker toys up your ass

[MannyIsGod]

I can make things up on the internet too, Darrin. You can say you invented modern physics (or software LOL) but you've yet to ever show any type of high level scientific understanding so I'm not sure why anyone would believe you. I gave you the benefit of the doubt for many years but now your stupidity and outright ignorance is too much to ignore. You do not have a degree in engineering.

[DarrinS]

I can make things up on the internet too, Darrin. You can say you invented modern physics (or software LOL) but you've yet to ever show any type of high level scientific understanding so I'm not sure why anyone would believe you. I gave you the benefit of the doubt for many years but now your stupidity and outright ignorance is too much to ignore. You do not have a degree in engineering.


Your insults are really hurting my feewings. :cry

[DarrinS]

From the Reuters article:

People here what they want. [/FONT][/COLOR]


Or, they hear what they want.

[MannyIsGod]

Does good editing skill come with a fake engineering degree?

[DarrinS]

Does good editing skill come with a fake engineering degree?

From petty insults to questioning my degree... that's pretty lame, Manny.

I guess this is what you've been taught to do when you disagree with someone.

[MannyIsGod]

LOL @ you questioning my integrity. Yes Darrin, your constant trolling is "disagreement". Its not my fault you lied about having a degree. I'm not sure why you did it. But its probably part of all of your trolling.

[Wild Cobra]

From petty insults to questioning my degree... that's pretty lame, Manny.

I guess this is what you've been taught to do when you disagree with someone.
Notice he seldom directly addresses a claim.

[DarrinS]

LOL @ you questioning my integrity. Yes Darrin, your constant trolling is "disagreement". Its not my fault you lied about having a degree. I'm not sure why you did it. But its probably part of all of your trolling.


Sigh

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/837/img0828z.jpg/

[Wild Cobra]

Sigh

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/837/img0828z.jpg/
:tu

And Manny, I'm sure you are aware that knowing a science well in one catagory means you can easily understand others.

[DarrinS]

Manny?

<poof>

[Wild Cobra]

Manny?

<poof>
No shit.

Notice how he never addresses my points any more?

[DarrinS]

No shit.

Notice how he never addresses my points any more?


ad hominem attacks are easier

[Wild Cobra]

ad hominem attacks are easier
And Fuzzy...

My God....

I at least try to present arguments in a way anyone can understand with a little scientific understanding.

[MannyIsGod]

LOL UTSA. Well, now THAT explains it.

LMAO @ Darrin being trolled into taking pictures to protect his ecred.

[MannyIsGod]

BTW Darrin. I think its funny you covered up your name but left up your degree and the year. How many Darrin's do you think graduated in 1994 with degree's in ME from UTSA? How many do you think have software patents on file? Good job covering up that name, though. You should probably take that picture down now.

[clambake]

BTW Darrin. I think its funny you covered up your name but left up your degree and the year. How many Darrin's do you think graduated in 1994 with degree's in ME from UTSA? How many do you think have software patents on file? Good job covering up that name, though. You should probably take that picture down now.

har har. wc won't be able to control himself.

[MannyIsGod]

har har. wc won't be able to control himself.

LOL!

[boutons_deux]

Video Explains How Loss Of Arctic Ice Weakens Jet Stream, Amplifies Extreme Weather (http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2013/04/16/1867371/video-explains-how-loss-of-arctic-ice-weakens-jet-stream-amplifies-extreme-weather/)We’ve written (http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2012/10/11/989231/noaa-bombshell-warming-driven-arctic-ice-loss-is-boosting-chance-of-extreme-us-weather/) extensively (http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2012/04/04/457823/arctic-warming-extreme-weather-events-drought-flooding-cold-spells-and-heat-waves/) about how how arctic ice loss is driving extreme weather.

Jennifer A. Francis of Rutgers University’s Institute of Marine and Coastal Sciences has been at the forefront of this research. She appears in many videos explaining the connection between climate change and extreme weather (see recent 40 minute video here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETpm9JAdfcs)).

Here’s a short version aimed at a very general audience:


http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2013/04/16/1867371/video-explains-how-loss-of-arctic-ice-weakens-jet-stream-amplifies-extreme-weather/

[DarrinS]

LOL UTSA. Well, now THAT explains it.

LMAO @ Darrin being trolled into taking pictures to protect his ecred.



BTW Darrin. I think its funny you covered up your name but left up your degree and the year. How many Darrin's do you think graduated in 1994 with degree's in ME from UTSA? How many do you think have software patents on file? Good job covering up that name, though. You should probably take that picture down now.


You really need to step your game up.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

You really need to step your game up.

Well you explained why you had to demonstrate JAVA and C programming knowledge to get a job in engineering. It also explains why your acumen in basic engineering math principles is pretty weak. You also explained how you were able to graduate without having read the things you were asked to comment on.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

And Fuzzy...

My God....

I at least try to present arguments in a way anyone can understand with a little scientific understanding.

You realize that the above is an ad hominem right, dipshit? And this is hilarious. I don't post for a couple of days and I am still in your head. You are my bitch now.

[boutons_deux]

Add Reuters to the list of denier news outlets

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/04/16/us-climate-slowdown-idUSBRE93F0AJ20130416

Reuters Ignores Its Own Accurate Reporting On Rapid Warming Of Oceans (http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2013/04/16/1873531/reuters-contradicts-its-own-accurate-reporting-on-rapid-warming-of-oceans/)


Reuters Also Struggles To Find Climate Scientists Who Have Become Less Worried About Climate Change, So They Quote Bjorn Lomborg!

Why are so many climatologists now speaking out about global warming? As Lonnie Thompson explained a couple of years ago, “Virtually all of us are now convinced that global warming poses a clear and present danger to civilization.” (http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2010/12/13/207169/lonnie-thompson-climatologists-global-warming-a-clear-and-present-danger-to-civilization/)

But you’d never know how increasingly concerned climate scientists have become from reading Reuters’ absurdly-headlined piece, “Climate scientists struggle to explain warming slowdown (http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/04/16/us-climate-slowdown-idUSBRE93F0AJ20130416).” Amazingly, the piece doesn’t actually quote a single climate scientist struggling to explain this “slowdown” — perhaps because it doesn’t exist (see ”Global Warming Has Accelerated In Past 15 Years, New Study Of Oceans Confirms (http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2013/03/25/1768601/in-hot-water-global-warming-has-accelerated-in-past-15-years-new-study-of-oceans-confirms/)“).

http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Nuccitelli_ocean_heat-e1365449382533.jpg


Even more amazingly, by which I mean, even more likely to cause your head to explode, the same Reuters reporter reported on new studies of ocean warming just last week in an article headlined, “Oceans may explain slowdown in climate change: study (http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/04/07/us-climate-oceans-idUSBRE93608420130407)“!!!

Kind of hard to square that story with ”Climate scientists struggle to explain warming slowdown.” But then rather than quoting any struggling climate scientists, the new Reuters piece starts with Bjorn Lomborg:


“The climate system is not quite so simple as people thought,” said Bjorn Lomborg, a Danish statistician and author of “The Skeptical Environmentalist” who estimates that moderate warming will be beneficial for crop growth and human health.

Who ever thought the climate system was simple? Nobody. Heck, if it were simple, reporters would have noticed that Lomborg, who has been repeatedly debunked (http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2013/01/25/1495691/bjorn-legacy-lomborg-urges-climate-inaction-with-misleading-stats-in-murdochs-wall-street-journal/) by actual climate scientists, has also repeatedly flip-flopped his position and doesn’t merit a quote (http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2013/04/16/1873531/reuters-contradicts-its-own-accurate-reporting-on-rapid-warming-of-oceans/#) in an article about what climate scientists do or do not think.

When people began to be concerned about global warming, Lomborg downplayed the threat. Then in 2010, when the deniers were ascendant and action had stalled, he flip-flopped to assert, “Climate change is undoubtedly one of the chief concerns facing the world today.” (http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2010/08/31/206654/lomborg-new-book-smart-solutions-to-climate-change-debunk-errors-flaw/) Now concern about warming is rebounding, so naturally his concern is declining again. How the media loves a contrarian.


http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Nuccitelli_ocean_heat-e1365449382533.jpg

[MannyIsGod]

You really need to step your game up.

LOL. I got you to post a copy of your diploma with like 4 posts saying you didn't have a degree. I don't think I need to step anything up.

[DarrinS]

Well you explained why you had to demonstrate JAVA and C programming knowledge to get a job in engineering. It also explains why your acumen in basic engineering math principles is pretty weak. You also explained how you were able to graduate without having read the things you were asked to comment on.

Do you need any math skills to develop FEM and CFD software?

Make sure you know what you're talking about before throwing out baseless insults.

[DarrinS]

LOL. I got you to post a copy of your diploma with like 4 posts saying you didn't have a degree. I don't think I need to step anything up.

A sign of maturity is admitting when you are wrong. Clearly, you aren't there yet.

[clambake]

A sign of maturity is admitting when you are wrong. Clearly, you aren't there yet.

lol. you came in this forum lying.

clearly......you'll never mature.

[MannyIsGod]

A sign of maturity is admitting when you are wrong. Clearly, you aren't there yet.

I was wrong about you not having a degree. Do I get a certificate of maturity from you now?

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Do you need any math skills to develop FEM and CFD software?

Make sure you know what you're talking about before throwing out baseless insults.

:lol yeah what does math have to do with those?

The better question is whether or not it takes math skills to get a UTSA engineering degree.

[DarrinS]

:lol yeah what does math have to do with those?

The better question is whether or not it takes math skills to get a UTSA engineering degree.


This is what you guys resort to? Pathetic.


When I was a student there, the undergrad ME program required Calculus I,II,III and Differential Equations I,II


I got the same education as an ME from a more prestigious university, but at a much lower cost.


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And for those unfamiliar with FEM or CFD...


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finite_element_method
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computational_fluid_dynamics

[clambake]

you get your info from wiki?

uh oh

[FuzzyLumpkins]

This is what you guys resort to? Pathetic.


When I was a student there, the undergrad ME program required Calculus I,II,III and Differential Equations I,II


I got the same education as an ME from a more prestigious university, but at a much lower cost.


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And for those unfamiliar with FEM or CFD...


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finite_element_method
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computational_fluid_dynamics

You are like talking to Forest Gump without the nobility.


Do you need any math skills to develop FEM and CFD software?

IOW, 'do you need math skills to develop fluid dynamics and finite elements developmental software?' I hope someone over there has a clue of PDE's and harmonic analysis.

You have a ME degree and for the last century that has required that you learn PDE's. Remember thermo and the heat equation? The k ratio? Maybe you just need a C++ library catalog for what they ask you to do.

[DarrinS]

IOW, 'do you need math skills to develop fluid dynamics and finite elements developmental software?' I hope someone over there has a clue of PDE's and harmonic analysis.

You have a ME degree and for the last century that has required that you learn PDE's. Remember thermo and the heat equation? The k ratio? Maybe you just need a C++ library catalog for what they ask you to do.




Are you still talking?

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Are you still talking?

Is that difficult for you to figure out too? If you don't like me responding then perhaps you should stop asking me questions. Sorry you don't like the answers.

[Wild Cobra]

Maybe everyone interested should watch this again:

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[Wild Cobra]

And this:

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[boutons_deux]

the AGW conspiracy at it again

The Hockey Stick Lives: New Study Confirms Unprecedented Recent Warming Reverses 2,000 Years Of Cooling (http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2013/04/23/1903001/the-hockey-stick-lives-new-study-confirms-unprecedented-recent-warming-reverses-2000-years-of-cooling/)

http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/Carbon-T-F.jpg

Last month, we reported on the umpteenth study (http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2013/03/08/1691411/bombshell-recent-warming-is-amazing-and-atypical-and-poised-to-destroy-stable-climate-that-made-civilization-possible/)that confirmed (http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2013/04/23/1903001/the-hockey-stick-lives-new-study-confirms-unprecedented-recent-warming-reverses-2000-years-of-cooling/#) the Hockey Stick. It made clear the rate of global warming since 1900 is 50 times greater than the rate of cooling in the previous 5000 years.

That study (http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2013/04/23/1903001/the-hockey-stick-lives-new-study-confirms-unprecedented-recent-warming-reverses-2000-years-of-cooling/#), Marcott et al, is the most the most comprehensive “Reconstruction of Regional and Global Temperature for the Past 11,300 Years (http://www.sciencemag.org/content/339/6124/1198.abstract)” ever done. It’s the source of most of the data (in blue) in the jaw-dropping graph at the right (click to enlarge (http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2013/04/23/1903001/the-hockey-stick-lives-new-study-confirms-unprecedented-recent-warming-reverses-2000-years-of-cooling/#)).

Projected warming this century (in red) on humanity’s current emissions path comes from the recent literature (http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2012/10/14/1009121/science-of-global-warming-impacts-guide/).

Now (http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2013/04/23/1903001/the-hockey-stick-lives-new-study-confirms-unprecedented-recent-warming-reverses-2000-years-of-cooling/#) a team of 78 researchers (from 60 institutions) in the international network PAGES (http://www.pages.unibe.ch/about/general-overview) (PAst Global Changes) has “published the most comprehensive reconstruction of past temperature changes at the continental scale” over the past 2000 years. Their Nature Geoscience article (subs. req’d) concludes (http://www.nature.com/ngeo/journal/vaop/ncurrent/full/ngeo1797.html):

The most coherent feature in nearly all of the regional temperature reconstructions is a long-term cooling trend, which ended late in the nineteenth century. At multi-decadal to centennial scales, temperature variability shows distinctly different regional patterns, with more similarity within each hemisphere than between them. There were no globally synchronous multi-decadal warm or cold intervals that define a worldwide Medieval Warm Period or Little Ice Age, but all reconstructions show generally cold conditions between AD 1580 and 1880, punctuated in some regions by warm decades during the eighteenth century. The transition to these colder conditions occurred earlier in the Arctic, Europe and Asia than in North America or the Southern Hemisphere regions. Recent warming reversed the long-term cooling; during the period AD 1971–2000, the area-weighted average reconstructed temperature was higher than any other time in nearly 1,400 years.


No “worldwide Medieval Warm Period or Little Ice Age.” Another denier myth bites the dust.

Here is a key figure from the new study:

http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Ahmed_2013_paleo_fig4.jpg


http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Ahmed_2013_paleo_fig4.jpg

[boutons_deux]

A Climate Flowchart To De-Confuse The Confused — And To Defuse The Confusers (http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2013/05/05/1951751/a-climate-flowchart-to-de-confuse-the-confused-and-to-defuse-the-confusers/)
http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/climateflowchart-e1367442859568.jpg


http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2013/05/05/1951751/a-climate-flowchart-to-de-confuse-the-confused-and-to-defuse-the-confusers/