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mouse
03-30-2013, 07:51 AM
You assholes are so trigger happy to call Chemtrail believers tin foil hat conspiracy theorists.

Well it's a fact they admitted already they spray the sky with chemicles so man up and say you was wrong.

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Wild Cobra
03-30-2013, 08:25 AM
Care to offer actual evidence?

You constantly post videos, can't you at least give a time index so we don';t have to waste even more time?

RandomGuy
04-02-2013, 06:03 PM
:dramaquee

OMG an hour long youtube video!!! Holy shit, I was wrong!!!


I mean if it is on an hour long youtube video it must be true.


How can I argue with that? It doesn't get more iron-clad. Can't you see people?!?!?! Wake up sheeple, and everybody watch the hour long video!!

WOE IS ME... :dramaquee

Wild Cobra
04-03-2013, 02:30 AM
:dramaquee

OMG an hour long youtube video!!! Holy shit, I was wrong!!!

I'm sure Mouse has that must time to lose, but I sure don't.

Wild Cobra
04-03-2013, 03:10 AM
One more time mouse...

Time index please...

redzero
04-03-2013, 03:26 AM
Do conspiracy theorists even watch all these ridiculously long YouTube videos they post?

Wild Cobra
04-03-2013, 03:47 AM
Do conspiracy theorists even watch all these ridiculously long YouTube videos they post?
I wonder that myself. Do they really have that much time to waste?

The Reckoning
04-03-2013, 05:51 AM
they do. it's called crop dusting.

LnGrrrR
04-03-2013, 07:45 AM
Well, we know where are at least one of the idiots saying chemtrails do exist is...

2pac > Kobe
04-03-2013, 03:39 PM
fuck you guys, chemtrails are as real as gianna michaels tits just look in the sky dumb fucks

Viva Las Espuelas
04-03-2013, 04:07 PM
gianna michaels tits
Mmmmmm

DMC
04-03-2013, 10:09 PM
Why do any of you still even respond? You know it's a troll. NO one who believes the shit he espouses has 300+ troll names. Still, you bite every time.

mavs>spurs
04-04-2013, 06:01 PM
who seriously HASN'T seen chemtrails? they've been around for 20 years..plane exhaust doesn't linger for hours at a time.

ChumpDumper
04-04-2013, 06:33 PM
How many hours did you spend looking at them?

ChumpDumper
04-04-2013, 06:39 PM
And why wouldn't they linger for hours? Give me your scientific explanation.

mavs>spurs
04-04-2013, 08:43 PM
because exhaust dissipates faster than that

ChumpDumper
04-04-2013, 08:48 PM
because exhaust dissipates faster than thatAccording to whom?

Contrails are mainly ice and water vapor, which isn't too far from the composition of clouds. Depending on the conditions, clouds can remain without dissipating for hours -- so why can't contrails?

MLewis
04-04-2013, 09:25 PM
It has been known since the early days of aircraft travel that contrails can persist given the right conditions. Here's a report from 1942 that talks about it. http://naca.central.cranfield.ac.uk/reports/1942/naca-wr-l-474.pdf Some photos and mentions in newspapers about spreading and persisting contrails dating back to the 40's here http://contrailscience.com/persisting-and-spreading-contrails/ Since air traffic has grown greatly in the last few decades and newer aircraft have bigger, more powerful engines pushing out more exhaust with much higher water content bigger contrails are to be expected. They also fly higher on average now which increases the chances for contrail formation.

mouse
04-05-2013, 07:40 AM
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ChumpDumper
04-05-2013, 10:58 AM
I can tell you -- they aren't spraying anything.

mouse
04-05-2013, 10:00 PM
I can tell you -- they aren't spraying anything.

Coming from a person ( not sure no one has met you in person) that thinks WTC7 came crashing down from a small office fire is even more proof Chemtrails are not only real you slept with your window open at night breathing it in.

mouse
04-05-2013, 10:05 PM
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ChumpDumper
04-05-2013, 11:50 PM
Coming from a person ( not sure no one has met you in person) that thinks WTC7 came crashing down from a small office fire is even more proof Chemtrails are not only real you slept with your window open at night breathing it in.Tell me what you think chemtrails are in your own words and why they aren't just ice and water vapor.

mouse
04-06-2013, 12:44 AM
Tell me what you think chemtrails are in your own words and why they aren't just ice and water vapor.

Chemtrails - Barium, Aluminum,
Titanium CONFIRMED In Rainwater


http://rense.com/general21/conf.htm



http://www.thomhartmann.com/forum/2011/12/florida-rainwater-sample-tests-positive-aluminum-and-barium

Florida Rainwater Sample Tests Positive for Aluminum and Barium



Lab Reports

A lined pond (guzzler) near Redding has about 375,000 ug/l of aluminum. We are concerned that deer and wildlife drink this water. USFS ignored this.

Sugar Pine Canyon Cr. Redding, CA has 4,600,000 ppb of aluminum (normal soil 15,000 ppb) in upper and lower stream. Fish losing scales, sick looking.

Sisson meadow pond water in Mt Shasta has 12,000 mg/kg of aluminum, and the pond is fed by city spring water, but exposed to the sky (sample taken at outlet).

Shastice park (in Mt. Shasta City) stream water has 1540 ug/l of aluminum. Other streams have more, certainly bad for aquatic insects if permanent.

National Weather Service plastic rain gage on a 7’ pole in Mt. Shasta shows 100-1010 ug/l aluminum, with highest amounts after heaviest contrails; it correlates.

With no contrails, we get 0-50 ug/l aluminum in the rain. Several stations report no aluminum, but very high barium or strontium, maybe a titanate for reflectivity.

Snowdrift near McCloud on Mt Shasta at 8000’ has 61,100 ug/l aluminum, 83 of barium, and 383 of strontium. This is over 4-5 times that of plain protected soil.

Lab reports during storms range 0 to 30 ug/l in rain with no spraying to 4000 ug/l of aluminum (series), always correlated positively to jet spraying (national info).

Many samples were taken by a trained USDA biologist with legal water sampling experience and MS degree in related subjects. His samples are similar to others.

Samples show a direct relationship to contrail density: More contrails, higher Aluminum, Barium, and/or strontium in water; also boron and arsenic appear.

When we get zero readings of any element, it proves our samples are not self-contaminated by dirt, dust, dirty fingers. We should never get zero if they were.

The Mt. Shasta city public water report in 2010 indicates that aluminum, barium, lead, mercury, cadmium, chromium, and strontium are not found in city water yet.

Contamination is unlikely because jars used are clean glass or official sampling bottles washed with known pure tap water. Results follow contrail density.

Outside soils in Mt. Shasta area in 2007 have over 1.6 % or 16,000 mg/kg of aluminum. Soil is 13000 mg/kg in aluminum under my house, likely natural.

Strontium, barium, and aluminum are found in Mt. Shasta rocks in a few ppb. “Dust” does not explain high amounts in the rain or snow, nor occasionally zero.

Rain samples from Arizona, New York, California, Colorado, Wyoming, Idaho, Pennsylvania, show high Al, Ba, Sr, As, B, Fe, and Mn, but any may be zero.

We think iron/manganese may be meteor dust, and lead is from civil aircraft gas.

Although local geologic minerals vary, we usually get Welsbach patent patterns. Some have no aluminum, but high Sr or Ba, or none so formulas likely differ.

Radioactivity was tested with a local Geiger counter, with no indications.

Some readings may be the result of local polluting industries. However, results are nationally correlated to jet spraying, about 90% with no local factory source.

Redding CA city official Mull says EPA Redding Basic Labs are incompetent.

With different weather, the samples change, so maybe spray formulas do too.

Fibers that appear instead of dust have Welsbach elements, they are a spray error.

http://globalskywatch.com/reference/chemtrails-geoengineering/Francis-Mangels-Observations.html





http://www.thc-ministry.org/forum/showthread.php?p=16789

mouse
04-06-2013, 12:49 AM
Chemtrails are real and they are damaging our health


http://nexusilluminati.blogspot.com/2011/10/chemtrails-are-real-and-they-are.html


ELECTROLYSIS & BARIUM

http://www.carnicom.com/precip1.htm

Protecting Yourself From Chemtrails

http://healthmaven.blogspot.com/2012/05/protecting-yourself-from-chemtrails.html


Proof of chemtrails
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ChumpDumper
04-06-2013, 12:50 AM
Experiments not independently replicated, I'm sure.

That would be science.

mouse
04-06-2013, 12:53 AM
No matter what witness comes fourth, what evidence is found,or what video footage is discovered, Chump and his boy wonder WC will never admit when they are wrong.

ChumpDumper
04-06-2013, 12:56 AM
Yep, not independently replicated at all.

Completely contradicted, in fact.


Independent testing of several area water sources and the city’s water supply have found either no aluminum or trace amounts.

http://www.mtshastanews.com/article/20090610/NEWS/306109966/0/SEARCH

mouse
04-06-2013, 12:59 AM
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ChumpDumper
04-06-2013, 01:24 AM
jf0khstYDLAHey, some dude was actually able to replicate the "chemtrail residue" results by using dirty snow from Mt. Shasta.

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:lmao

ChumpDumper
04-06-2013, 01:37 AM
http://media-cache-ec3.pinterest.com/550x/ad/2f/7f/ad2f7fdcf2c4e31058fa77e851cbd05f.jpg

It won in 2008 and 2010 as well.

:rollin

Wild Cobra
04-06-2013, 04:55 AM
Mouse...

Those are your own words?

mouse
04-06-2013, 05:04 AM
http://media-cache-ec3.pinterest.com/550x/ad/2f/7f/ad2f7fdcf2c4e31058fa77e851cbd05f.jpg

It won in 2008 and 2010 as well.

:rollin

people also still think this is good beer whats your point?

http://www.taverntrove.com/beerpics/Lone-Star-Beer-Cans-Flat-Tops-10-12oz-Lone-Star-Brewing-Company_59482-1.jpg

mouse
04-06-2013, 05:07 AM
post all the pics you want to avoid the subject.

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ChumpDumper
04-06-2013, 10:22 AM
people also still think this is good beer whats your point?My point is your Mt. Shasta chemtrail residue story is bogus.

Did you not watch the YouTube? It's only 12 minutes.

I know you didn't.

ChumpDumper
04-06-2013, 10:33 AM
post all the pics you want to avoid the subject.

gR6KVYJ73AUGunderson, who did not respond to a letter sent a month before this writing, has warned for years that Satanists have footholds from the White House and Congress to the media. He claims a shadow government is targeting thousands of citizens, him included; its methods include the Internet, electronic energy beams from a satellite, hidden cameras and wiretaps in homes. A few of his other claims: There are 1,000 internment camps in the United States, and 30,000 guillotines stored in Atlanta to use on dissident patriots. Children were taken from Boys Town in Nebraska in the 1980s and flown to Washington, D.C., "for sex orgies at private parties with U.S. congressmen and Washington dignitaries." Sonny Bono didn't die in a skiing accident; he was murdered to stop him from blabbing about drug trafficking by CIA operatives.

http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelligence-report/browse-all-issues/2010/summer/meet-the-patriots?page=0,1

:lol

MLewis
04-06-2013, 04:10 PM
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Falsely claimed collision headings when there was plenty of separation. Then videos of clouds. Then videos of contrails. Claims of other aircraft being "tankers" when they are clearly commercial aircraft. Then they don't know how to spell bizarre :rolleyes. Pretty contrails at sunset and the big finish with the spamming of a website. This is what passes for evidence for you? Really?

mouse
04-06-2013, 08:10 PM
My point is your Mt. Shasta chemtrail residue story is bogus.

Did you not watch the YouTube? It's only 12 minutes.

I know you didn't.


What makes it bogus another YouTube video?

We can play these games all night the fact is the government has already admitted spraying shit to fight the suns rays its not a therory.

mouse
04-06-2013, 08:13 PM
Falsely claimed collision headings when there was plenty of separation. Then videos of clouds. Then videos of contrails. Claims of other aircraft being "tankers" when they are clearly commercial aircraft. Then they don't know how to spell bizarre :rolleyes. Pretty contrails at sunset and the big finish with the spamming of a website. This is what passes for evidence for you? Really?



That is one out of 10 videos debunk the other 9

Also I'm on a phone so posting videos and reviewing them is not an easy task as I try and get work done but my off days are sun-tue and you can bet I will come back in full force.

mouse
04-06-2013, 08:21 PM
Gunderson, who did not respond to a letter sent a month before this writing, has warned for years that Satanists have footholds from the White House and Congress to the media. He claims a shadow government is targeting thousands of citizens, him included; its methods include the Internet, electronic energy beams from a satellite, hidden cameras and wiretaps in homes. A few of his other claims: There are 1,000 internment camps in the United States, and 30,000 guillotines stored in Atlanta to use on dissident patriots. Children were taken from Boys Town in Nebraska in the 1980s and flown to Washington, D.C., "for sex orgies at private parties with U.S. congressmen and Washington dignitaries." Sonny Bono didn't die in a skiing accident; he was murdered to stop him from blabbing about drug trafficking by CIA operatives.

http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelligence-report/browse-all-issues/2010/summer/meet-the-patriots?page=0,1

:lol


So the man is eccentric and has other issues you need to debunk the footage not the person

DMX7
04-06-2013, 09:45 PM
Mouse graspin' hard for dem straws.

MLewis
04-06-2013, 10:04 PM
What makes it bogus another YouTube video?

We can play these games all night the fact is the government has already admitted spraying shit to fight the suns rays its not a therory.

No they haven't.

MLewis
04-06-2013, 10:06 PM
That is one out of 10 videos debunk the other 9

Also I'm on a phone so posting videos and reviewing them is not an easy task as I try and get work done but my off days are sun-tue and you can bet I will come back in full force.

Other people have already done so. All you have are pics of contrails and clouds. Not a single sample has ever been taken directly from a trail despite promises for more than 13 years to do so. Sampling something on the ground and thinking it proves something about a contrail 6+ miles up is just you deluding yourself. Anything found is far more likely to come from local pollution.

MLewis
04-06-2013, 10:08 PM
So the man is eccentric and has other issues you need to debunk the footage not the person

He has no more proof than any other "chemtrail" proponent. Just because he at one time was part of the FBI doesn't give him any more credibility now especially when he can't back it up any more than any other person that posts a video on youtube.

MLewis
04-06-2013, 10:13 PM
Faulty "tests", non-science, and lies from the "chemtrail" crowd. http://contrailscience.com/what-in-the-world-are-they-spraying/ http://contrailscience.com/chemtrail-non-science/ http://contrailscience.com/barium-chemtrails/

ChumpDumper
04-07-2013, 06:34 AM
What makes it bogus another YouTube video?

We can play these games all night the fact is the government has already admitted spraying shit to fight the suns rays its not a therory.It's a lie.


So the man is eccentric and has other issues you need to debunk the footage not the personI debunked the footage.

You didn't watch the video. You aren't interested in the truth.

2pac > Kobe
04-08-2013, 02:13 AM
It's a lie.

I debunked the footage.

You didn't watch the video. You aren't interested in the truth.
obvious shill is obvious

LnGrrrR
04-08-2013, 07:56 AM
It's sad that people like Mouse exist.

Wild Cobra
04-08-2013, 02:59 PM
It's sad that people like Mouse exist.

Someone has to provide comedy.

RandomGuy
04-09-2013, 11:55 AM
Someone has to provide comedy.

Dunno. It seems less like a comedy than a tragedy.

It's like watching a movie where the main character is insane, but can't tell reality from his fantasies, and not only can't do that, but when given solid proof that his fantasies are fantasies, find reality too much to bear, and retreats even further into la-la land.

Of course, the movie could also be one of those mind-fucks where they guy knows exactly what he is doing and it is just amusing him to fuck with people, that is somewhat of a comedy.

In this case, I would be willing to bet it is mostly the former with a small mix of the latter.

Tragicomic gold.

mouse
04-09-2013, 12:01 PM
Mouse graspin' hard for dem straws.

But it only takes one to break the .......

mouse
04-09-2013, 12:04 PM
It's sad that people like Mouse exist.

According to you, or your failed Ego?

LnGrrrR
04-09-2013, 01:11 PM
According to you, or your failed Ego?

*smh* Swing and a miss.