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HarlemHeat37
04-01-2013, 09:38 PM
Too much worrying, tbh..

Spurs have many flaws at the moment:

- Shitty bench
- Offense isn't fluid
- Can't get stops down the stretch
- Parker isn't 100%
- Ginobili looks horrible

They will resolve the offensive fluidity and the bench won't be a huge concern with shortened playoff rotations, tbh..they will focus once the playoffs begin, they just need 1 game to turn shit around..

More importantly, it seems like the majority of this forum doesn't watch the rest of the West..even with all the flaws on this team, they are still much less flawed than Memphis(embarrassing offense and lack of a shot creator), Denver(no shooting, no halfcourt offense, inconsistent defense) and the Clippers(coaching, limited individual talent), tbh..

The Spurs are in the same position they were in to start the season, tbh..2nd best team in the West and they will need Ginobili to have a resurgence to beat OKC..they will still easily beat the 7th/8th seed and defeat Memphis/Denver/LAC in the 2nd round, tbh..

Miami is the only contender in the NBA this season anyways, but this shouldn't be news to anybody..

playblair
04-01-2013, 09:39 PM
horrible bench = bonner....... neal....... diaw......

good bench = blair...... cojo......de colo........

ElNono
04-01-2013, 09:39 PM
Exactly what I've been saying... Spurs need to improve some areas, but the rest of the West isn't exuding great play either...

superjames1992
04-01-2013, 09:40 PM
Too much worrying, tbh..

Spurs have many flaws at the moment:

- Shitty bench
- Offense isn't fluid
- Can't get stops down the stretch
- Parker isn't 100%
- Ginobili looks horrible

They will resolve the offensive fluidity and the bench won't be a huge concern with shortened playoff rotations, tbh..they will focus once the playoffs begin, they just need 1 game to turn shit around..

More importantly, it seems like the majority of this forum doesn't watch the rest of the West..even with all the flaws on this team, they are still much less flawed than Memphis(embarrassing offense and lack of a shot creator), Denver(no shooting, no halfcourt offense, inconsistent defense) and the Clippers(coaching, limited individual talent), tbh..

The Spurs are in the same position they were in to start the season, tbh..2nd best team in the West and they will need Ginobili to have a resurgence to beat OKC..they will still easily beat the 7th/8th seed and defeat Memphis/Denver/LAC in the 2nd round, tbh..

Miami is the only contender in the NBA this season anyways, but this shouldn't be news to anybody..
Agreed, tbh.

It was frustrating to choke that game away, but I was surprised we were in that situation in the first place.

In the end, it's basically a barely meaningful regular season game. No need to have a meltdown.

SpurSwag
04-01-2013, 09:40 PM
i can't stand to come on this site anymore because it's all just people wanting to kill themselves about how we don't have a shot. Did anyone think Dallas had a chance two years ago? that team had lots of flaws too. Everyone has to chill, we've barely been losing games and our defense, while it certailny has had some lapses, is still much better than last year. Timmy is better, Tony is better. The bench won't matter as much, rotations will be shorter. Everyone lighten up, we're the 1 seed in the west.

jon123spurs
04-01-2013, 09:41 PM
Finally somebody with some real sense. Its like we've lost 10 in a row instead of 2. Yes I know weve been a little sluggish the past few games, but once the playoffs are here it will change. Pop knows what he's doing. Trust in Pop!

spurspokesman
04-01-2013, 09:41 PM
Understandable Heat but tbh we are losing too many winnable games. Champion caliber teams win the games they are supposed to win and the spurs haven't done that in the most important part of the season.

mercos
04-01-2013, 09:42 PM
Tough schedule is tough. The Spurs have been in every game down to the last possession during this brutal stretch. Its hard for them to get any sort of a rhythm with all the injuries though. Shorter rotation will help the team come playoff time, Pop is trotting bad lineups out there too often.

Mugen
04-01-2013, 09:43 PM
Pretty much tbh. As long as nobody else gets hurt on top of China Glass Ginobili, there's no need to worry about anything until the playoffs.

HarlemHeat37
04-01-2013, 09:44 PM
The Spurs haven't looked great in a while, but I just find it humorous that there are people predicting a loss in the 1st round:lol..

Have you guys watched the teams in the 6th to 10th seed this year?..the bottom of the West is the worst I've seen since the mid-2000s, tbh..

ElNono
04-01-2013, 09:44 PM
Understandable Heat but tbh we are losing too many winnable games. Champion caliber teams win the games they are supposed to win and the spurs haven't done that in the most important part of the season.

we're resting guys... we did a good job tonight all things considered

Brunodf
04-01-2013, 09:44 PM
Health/Pop are our main problems right now

Sean Cagney
04-01-2013, 09:45 PM
i can't stand to come on this site anymore because it's all just people wanting to kill themselves about how we don't have a shot. Did anyone think Dallas had a chance two years ago? that team had lots of flaws too. Everyone has to chill, we've barely been losing games and our defense, while it certailny has had some lapses, is still much better than last year. Timmy is better, Tony is better. The bench won't matter as much, rotations will be shorter. Everyone lighten up, we're the 1 seed in the west.

Dallas two years ago had a very deep team! They were better than this Spurs team IMO, not easily but they were better and got hot at the right time. The Spurs are stumbling at the wrong time right now, if they right the ship I will change my mind but as of right now no way. I think they slide to the #2 seed now, not a huge deal but I wanted them to have HC if they met OKC. I hope they prove me wrong as a fan but right now it looks bleak. I don't think they just turn it up either and all problems go away magically when the playoffs arrive, the stagnant O is still there late and they can't get stops on D.

Budkin
04-01-2013, 09:46 PM
Fucking problem is that we haven't had a complete healthy team in two months and may not the rest of the year. That is the most frustrating thing.

HarlemHeat37
04-01-2013, 09:47 PM
I have the Spurs losing in the WCFs to OKC, btw, but anybody that thinks Memphis/Denver/Clippers have a better chance at reaching the CFs is a fucking idiot, tbh..

Robz4000
04-01-2013, 09:48 PM
Spurs' bench played well tonight tbh. Nando really might be able to run the show for a bit in the playoffs (provided he scores or looks to enough). Problem is health, and I don't see the Big 3 going in healthy or being healthy at all in the postseason.

The Grizz and Clippers have flaws the Spurs can exploit in a second round match up, but Denver really doesn't. Spurs can try to slow it down all they want, but they'll still turn it over at a high enough clip for Denver to speed it up. The Nuggs score well in the paint and rebound at a high level, and their athleticism is going to kill the Spurs as well. If they meet in the second round, Denver in 6.

crc21209
04-01-2013, 09:48 PM
Harlem bringing the truth goods :tu. Excellent post. I was just saying in the game thread that no one in the West is playing spectacular basketball, including the Thunder.

Brunodf
04-01-2013, 09:49 PM
Dallas two years ago had a very deep team! They were better than this Spurs team IMO, not easily but they were better and got hot at the right time. The Spurs are stumbling at the wrong time right now, if they right the ship I will change my mind but as of right now no way. I think they slide to the #2 seed now, not a huge deal but I wanted them to have HC if they met OKC. I hope they prove me wrong as a fan but right now it looks bleak. I don't think they just turn it up either and all problems go away magically when the playoffs arrive, the stagnant O is still there late and they can't get stops on D.
:lolGood one

TheGoldStandard
04-01-2013, 09:50 PM
Spurs have been playing bad and sure they might get out of it but we haven't played well against 2-12 this season. We've beaten teams that were good but we've lost to teams that had no business beating us.

justinandimcool
04-01-2013, 09:52 PM
It'll be a fun ride through the first two rounds, but it's going to inevitably crash down in the WCF or finals, that's where all the cliffjumping is coming from tbh. Just because we're elite doesn't mean we have a shot at winning it all.

ElNono
04-01-2013, 09:52 PM
I have the Spurs losing in the WCFs to OKC, btw, but anybody that thinks Memphis/Denver/Clippers have a better chance at reaching the CFs is a fucking idiot, tbh..

Agreed again. You also have to wonder how much Spurs are coasting... this is a team full of vets, who are notorious of getting bored of the RS... Jackson has actually been ramping up, as expected, since he was the biggest Horry-coaster of them all

Kool Bob Love
04-01-2013, 09:53 PM
Harlem bringing the truth goods :tu. Excellent post. I was just saying in the game thread that no one in the West is playing spectacular basketball, including the Thunder.

Fucking love post like this and threads like this. Great job guys. :tu

HarlemHeat37
04-01-2013, 09:54 PM
Denver can't shoot, 1 of their only 2 shot creators(Lawson) is playing through a major injury, their halfcourt offense is mediocre, and their defense is slightly above average(if they didn't generate turnovers, it would be poor)..they also don't play nearly as well on the road..

The Spurs only lose to Denver if there's a serious injury or Pop completely forgets how to coach..

Budkin
04-01-2013, 09:57 PM
I've just closed my eyes again
Climbed aboard the dream weaver train
Driver take away my worries of today
And leave tomorrow behind

Ooh dream weaver
I believe you can get me through the night
Ooh dream weaver
I believe we can reach the morning light
Fly me high through the starry skies
Maybe to an astral plane
Cross the highways of fantasy
Help me to forget today's pain

Though the dawn may be coming soon
There still may be some time
Fly me away to the bright side of the moon
And meet me on the other side

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lrsgz9qQ3X1r0slpco1_500.jpg

Robz4000
04-01-2013, 10:07 PM
Denver doesn't need to shot, they'll wear down Duncan enough going inside so consistently that it'll end up being a walk to the rim. As I said, Denver's ability to score off turnovers at a high clip and the Spurs' penchant for turning it over often will be huge; even if the Spurs slow it down, Denver will be able to keep up off fast breaks. The real determining factor will be if Lawson is near 100% or not in a potential match up. If not the Spurs win in 6, otherwise Denver will take it. Andre Miller and their bench will torch the Spurs' bench, though Jack, Diaw, and Manu stepping up will be helpful. Denver has also begun to play better on the road, only reasons they lost to NOH and the Spurs is because Lawson is hurt.

Also, with how Pop has coached in the playoffs lately, it wouldn't surprise me to see George Karl, and above-average coach compared to Hollins and Brooks, outcoach Pop too.

ThaBigFundamental21
04-01-2013, 10:16 PM
I still say Neal playing is huge for us. A lot of people hate him here. No one is saying he is amazing, but he is Offense off the bench. And it's no coincidence that when he sat for 4 or 5 games with foot issues, we had a stagnant Offense. He is just one more cog to the machine. He takes pressure off the inside game when his shots are falling. Obviously we need a healthy Manu come playoff time. We need a healthy team. All teams do tbh. We have just had our usual issues. Especially with Manu. Adversity makes us better. We played a hell of a game tonight, but came up a little short. Big deal. We gave some valuable minutes to some players who needed it.

I do think this team will be fine. I dunno if we are winning a title this year. We know the Heat are good. We know we are a small market team with an uphill battle. But a trip to the NBA finals isn't impossible or out of the question. The West is good. So are we. How many teams can say they played like shit for nearly a month, had a top 2 player go down, and still narrowly hold the 1 seed in their conference, and control their own destiny? The sky is not falling, and you guys need to ride or die. I get you are concerned, we are fans. But this is a good team, with a good coach, he does amazing with what he has. I don't see a lot of coaches doing more with less. I know one thing, I will cheer my ass off until the end, and I have faith in our team. When our Spurs roll to Denver I will be there screaming my ass off cheering for the Silver and Black!!!

ElNono
04-01-2013, 10:17 PM
I still say Neal playing is huge for us. A lot of people hate him here. No one is saying he is amazing, but he is Offense off the bench. And it's no coincidence that when he sat for 4 or 5 games with foot issues, we had a stagnant Offense. He is just one more cog to the machine. He takes pressure off the inside game when his shots are falling. Obviously we need a healthy Manu come playoff time. We need a healthy team. All teams do tbh. We have just had our usual issues. Especially with Manu. Adversity makes us better. We played a hell of a game tonight, but came up a little short. Big deal. We gave some valuable minutes to some players who needed it.

I do think this team will be fine. I dunno if we are winning a title this year. We know the Heat are good. We know we are a small market team with an uphill battle. But a trip to the NBA finals isn't impossible or out of the question. The West is good. So are we. How many teams can say they played like shit for nearly a month, had a top 2 player go down, and still narrowly hold the 1 seed in their conference, and control their own destiny? The sky is not falling, and you guys need to ride or die. I get you are concerned, we are fans. But this is a good team, with a good coach, he does amazing with what he has. I don't see a lot of coaches doing more with less. I know one thing, I will cheer my ass off until the end, and I have faith in our team. When our Spurs roll to Denver I will be there screaming my ass off cheering for the Silver and Black!!!

I like him. We need his scoring and as absurd his ball handling can be, he's one of the very few that can actually create his own shot.

He just can't be closing games when you need defense. He's way too poor for that.

crc21209
04-01-2013, 10:19 PM
I like him. We need his scoring and as absurd his ball handling can be, he's one of the very few that can actually create his own shot.

He just can't be closing games when you need defense. He's way too poor for that.

This. I think that's where Pop fucked up at the end. He had a lineup of TP-Neal-Jack-Diaw and Bonner when Conley tied the game with the 3. He should've had Green in for defense instead...

TheGoldStandard
04-01-2013, 10:20 PM
The only way Green and Neal are going to be very effective in the playoffs is if they switch the subbing system to that of Hockey and we can sub in defense every other possession or so.

Creation88
04-01-2013, 10:21 PM
what do you mean by "fine"?

"fine" enough to get ousted in the conference Finals? all or nothing for me. they won't be "fine" by my standards because i don't know how this team beats OKC or even Miami when it comes down to it.

Robz4000
04-01-2013, 10:24 PM
what do you mean by "fine"?

"fine" enough to get ousted in the conference Finals? all or nothing for me. they won't be "fine" by my standards because i don't know how this team beats OKC or even Miami when it comes down to it.

If that's the case for you then the Spurs haven't been "fine" since last June...

ThaBigFundamental21
04-01-2013, 10:24 PM
This. I think that's where Pop fucked up at the end. He had a lineup of TP-Neal-Jack-Diaw and Bonner when Conley tied the game with the 3. He should've had Green in for defense instead...

I really don't get the lineup to end the game.

rmt
04-01-2013, 10:25 PM
Don't know why Pop didn't have Neal on the floor for the last shot - he's got the quickest release of them all. C'mon - TP, SJax, Bonner - all with slow releases. What's with TP going one-on-one on the last couple possessions - Bonner was wide open on one of them.

ThaBigFundamental21
04-01-2013, 10:26 PM
what a hero

Whatever prick. At least I don't have a noose around my neck ready to jump.

Joyrider
04-01-2013, 10:27 PM
This. I think that's where Pop fucked up at the end. He had a lineup of TP-Neal-Jack-Diaw and Bonner when Conley tied the game with the 3. He should've had Green in for defense instead...

LOL like that helped on the game winning layup.

KaiRMD1
04-01-2013, 10:27 PM
I wanna believe it's gonna be fine but there are so many parallels to 2011 that it's disheartening to get any hopes up. I hope your right Harlem but I'm worried with what I've seen from them lately.

therealtruth
04-01-2013, 10:29 PM
Maybe time to rest everyone up for the playoffs?

Robz4000
04-01-2013, 10:30 PM
I wanna believe it's gonna be fine but there are so many parallels to 2011 that it's disheartening to get any hopes up. I hope your right Harlem but I'm worried with what I've seen from them lately.

Spurs won't lose in the first round this year. The lower 3 seeds this year are the worst they've been in years.

crc21209
04-01-2013, 10:31 PM
LOL like that helped on the game winning layup.

That was a tough contested shot by Green tbh. It's not like it was a wide open layup. I'd rather have Green over Neal in for defense any day..

Sean Cagney
04-01-2013, 10:47 PM
:lolGood one

So Dallas team that won the title is not better than this Spurs team? Tell me what guy is going to catch fire like Dirk that year? Terry was there, Chandler, Peja, Midget Barea, Kidd and Stevenson out there as well, each played their role on that team and they came together. I am glad you find it funny they were a better team than this Spurs team here, I wish that were true in this team being better. Tell me how this choking Spurs team who can't play D late is better?


BTW what is Fine as someone asked? Same crap as last year after we reach the conference finals? They surely are not going to win a title this year so I guess fine means a later exit. They are a good team, not great.

superjames1992
04-01-2013, 10:50 PM
One game does not a season make. FACT BOMB.

Yes, it sucks to lose, but it is what it is and we didn't have Timmy/Manu/Kawhi. The real season starts in three weeks and I'm ready! :flag:

:lobt2:

rmt
04-01-2013, 10:56 PM
Doesn't matter whether either DAL '11 or SAS '13 is better. '13 MIA is MUCH BETTER than '11 MIA.

TD 21
04-01-2013, 11:00 PM
Too much worrying, tbh..

Spurs have many flaws at the moment:

- Shitty bench
- Offense isn't fluid
- Can't get stops down the stretch
- Parker isn't 100%
- Ginobili looks horrible

They will resolve the offensive fluidity and the bench won't be a huge concern with shortened playoff rotations, tbh..they will focus once the playoffs begin, they just need 1 game to turn shit around..

More importantly, it seems like the majority of this forum doesn't watch the rest of the West..even with all the flaws on this team, they are still much less flawed than Memphis(embarrassing offense and lack of a shot creator), Denver(no shooting, no halfcourt offense, inconsistent defense) and the Clippers(coaching, limited individual talent), tbh..

The Spurs are in the same position they were in to start the season, tbh..2nd best team in the West and they will need Ginobili to have a resurgence to beat OKC..they will still easily beat the 7th/8th seed and defeat Memphis/Denver/LAC in the 2nd round, tbh..

Miami is the only contender in the NBA this season anyways, but this shouldn't be news to anybody..

Couldn't disagree more.

What gives you reason to think any of those issues will be rectified, other than maybe Parker getting close to 100%? Most of these issues are season long, only they're more glaring now.

This isn't '05 or even '07: They can't go 3-4 rounds with a limited - to no bench. They don't have the legs for it. They need steady contributions from 9 and that's just not going to happen.

And forget about how flawed everyone else is. When you have this many issues, are in the state they're in and have had back to back collapses to end your season (that's got to be weighing on them mentally), all that goes out the window. There's no question that at their best, they're better than everyone in the West, with the possible exception of the Thunder, but they're not so much better that they can't lose a series to a bunch of them. They probably will find a way to get through the 1st round, but if they have to blow their load doing so, then all bets are off in the 2nd round.

HI-FI
04-01-2013, 11:03 PM
Doesn't matter whether either DAL '11 or SAS '13 is better. '13 MIA is MUCH BETTER than '11 MIA.
pretty much.

not much you can do when a bunch of all stars decide to take paycuts and play together. if Lebron was a ballhog and cancer like Kobe our chances would be a lot better, but Lebron keeps guys engaged, shares the ball very well.

our loss against them a few days ago wasn't just a statement, it was a bitchslap to how good they are even without Lebron.

cjw
04-01-2013, 11:24 PM
Understandable Heat but tbh we are losing too many winnable games. Champion caliber teams win the games they are supposed to win and the spurs haven't done that in the most important part of the season.

We're also winning a lot of lose able games. Just enjoy these close games and be glad they're happening now and not a month from now.

Brunodf
04-01-2013, 11:24 PM
So Dallas team that won the title is not better than this Spurs team? Tell me what guy is going to catch fire like Dirk that year? Terry was there, Chandler, Peja, Midget Barea, Kidd and Stevenson out there as well, each played their role on that team and they came together. I am glad you find it funny they were a better team than this Spurs team here, I wish that were true in this team being better. Tell me how this choking Spurs team who can't play D late is better?


BTW what is Fine as someone asked? Same crap as last year after we reach the conference finals? They surely are not going to win a title this year so I guess fine means a later exit. They are a good team, not great.

That Dallas team had a soft jump shooting big who folds when pressured vs good defenders(as we saw him vs Jack), that team couldn't defend quick guards, they were known as chokers, had no post presence, no PnR D and were old. Luckily they never faced quick guards and a good PF stopper in the playoffs(Aldridge/Gasol/Ibaka-Sefalosha/Bosh).
They had more flaws than this Spurs team IMO

Spur|n|Austin
04-01-2013, 11:25 PM
I broke my remote control tonight.

Sean Cagney
04-01-2013, 11:33 PM
That Dallas team had a soft jump shooting big who folds when pressured vs good defenders(as we saw him vs Jack), that team couldn't defend quick guards, they were known as chokers, had no post presence, no PnR D and were old. Luckily they never faced quick guards and a good PF stopper in the playoffs(Aldridge/Gasol/Ibaka-Sefalosha/Bosh).
They had more flaws than this Spurs team IMO

That team won the title that year and Dirk had an amazing playoff run in 011, what are you talking about here? How is our team going to do that exactly? They faced the Heat man, they did beat the Thunder just a year before we lost to them, you are making no sense at all here. Aldridge was on Portland, they beat them in round one bro, Bosh was on the Heat. Your logic is starting to make less sense when they faced all those guys or most you mention there.

This is your response? If so you need to look up 011 again and see who they faced to win their title. I am not a Dallas fan by any means, but that team was nice.

Sean Cagney
04-01-2013, 11:34 PM
I broke my remote control tonight.
I must have looked nuts, checked the score and saw us lose by two points again and saw we blew the lead with under a minute to go again, threw my PHONE and cursed for a few minutes! I am glad it was dark lol.
We're also winning a lot of lose able games. Just enjoy these close games and be glad they're happening now and not a month from now.

You think they will stop happening a month from now? WHY? It's the playoffs then and it gets tougher. We are not scoring at all down the stretch in the last few games, infact later on they look horrible in the close games to say the least.

Brunodf
04-01-2013, 11:46 PM
That team won the title that year and Dirk had an amazing playoff run in 011, what are you talking about here? How is our team going to do that exactly? They faced the Heat man, they did beat the Thunder just a year before we lost to them, you are making no sense at all here. Aldridge was on Portland, they beat them in round one bro, Bosh was on the Heat. Your logic is starting to make less sense when they faced all those guys or most you mention there.

This is your response? If so you need to look up 011 again and see who they faced to win their title. I am not a Dallas fan by any means, but that team was nice.
Yes. They aren't good defenders bro.
That team had many flaws, it's easy to ignore after everything went right.

DejuanorwhatDude
04-01-2013, 11:56 PM
Yes. They aren't good defenders bro.
That team had many flaws, it's easy to ignore after everything went right.

The Spurs are not Dallas 2011. They are a soft team that is increasingly looking like second round fodder. All of their role players played out of their mind last year and have regressed to the shit that they generally are.

thunderup
04-02-2013, 12:01 AM
The Spurs will be fine. Yall will put it in the right gear when it counts.

jestersmash
04-02-2013, 12:07 AM
I found tonight's game to be encouraging. I mentioned this in the game thread, but I saw 5 or 6 of those "magical" possessions that were emblematic of the '11-'12 Spurs. 4, 5, 6 passes and constant ball movement/penetration leading to 2 or 3 wide open "good" shots that were passed up for a "great" shot.

The potential for that beautiful, seamless, fluid passing is clearly still there. It's inconsistent, but it's there.

spurraider21
04-02-2013, 12:08 AM
I wanna believe it's gonna be fine but there are so many parallels to 2011 that it's disheartening to get any hopes up. I hope your right Harlem but I'm worried with what I've seen from them lately.

2011 was Tim's worst statistical season of his career and Bonner was playing more than 21 minutes per game, and Blair was the starting Center. HWSNBN was also starting for us.


The fact that we were in it on the road against a good playoff team on a b2b minus Tim and Kawhi is a good sign in itself

Sean Cagney
04-02-2013, 12:08 AM
Yes. They aren't good defenders bro.
That team had many flaws, it's easy to ignore after everything went right.Yeah I guess they were not good on D nor clutch, but they won the games they had to win and had some crazy comebacks that year. I would want everything to go right with the Spurs this year if it meant that result.
The Spurs are not Dallas 2011. They are a soft team that is increasingly looking like second round fodder. All of their role players played out of their mind last year and have regressed to the shit that they generally are.
Thanks for telling him that, he seems to think this team is better for some reason.

Brunodf
04-02-2013, 12:15 AM
The Spurs are not Dallas 2011. They were a soft team that was increasingly looking like second round fodder. All of their role players played out of their mind that year and have regressed to the shit that they generally are.
Agree

Brunodf
04-02-2013, 12:18 AM
Yeah I guess they were not good on D nor clutch, but they won the games they had to win and had some crazy comebacks that year. I would want everything to go right with the Spurs this year if it meant that result.

....:wakeup
And this Spurs team isn't?

therealtruth
04-02-2013, 12:31 AM
2011 was Tim's worst statistical season of his career and Bonner was playing more than 21 minutes per game, and Blair was the starting Center. HWSNBN was also starting for us.


The fact that we were in it on the road against a good playoff team on a b2b minus Tim and Kawhi is a good sign in itself

And you don't think the Grizzlies had a little bit of a letdown like we did last night and the Heat did in November? However unlike us they ended up winning the game anyway. Moral victories won't get it done. We've got to be able to win games even if we don't deserve to win.

DejuanorwhatDude
04-02-2013, 12:33 AM
Agree

Are you seriously equating this years Spurs team with a team that had Tyson Chandler, Dirk, Mahinimi(serviceable backup center), Brendan Haywood and Corey Brewer as its bigs to our squad who Is expecting Tiago Splitter to dominate down on the block? Or Matt Bonner(who choked away a open 3 tonight down the stretch btw) to finally step up in his mid 30s? This team is Charmin fucking soft and in certain positions has the basketball IQ of a paper bag.

hater
04-02-2013, 12:38 AM
well Pop is betting the farm on "the new guys that had deer in headlights look last year, to be productive role players this playoffs"

truth is nobody fucking knows. Pop is going all in on a huge question mark

Brunodf
04-02-2013, 12:45 AM
Are you seriously equating this years Spurs team with a team that had Tyson Chandler, Dirk, Mahinimi(serviceable backup center), Brendan Haywood and Corey Brewer as its bigs to our squad who Is expecting Tiago Splitter to dominate down on the block? Or Matt Bonner(who choked away a open 3 tonight down the stretch btw) to finally step up in his mid 30s? This team is Charmin fucking soft and in certain positions has the basketball IQ of a paper bag.
No. Can't u read or are u just trolling me?

Sean Cagney
04-02-2013, 01:01 AM
....:wakeup
And this Spurs team isn't?

How the hell is this team clutch? They go minutes late in games without a bucket! Have you been watching? They get stagnant and just freeze late in games while the other team hits their shots and gets close and eventually ties it or takes the lead! This is so predictable now at the end of games you can see it coming from a mile away. I called it watching it on the chat, Spurs will miss and they will come down and hit the last shot, well damn it happens again. A clutch team doesn't have stretches like this one late without a score (How exactly is this team clutch?). This team is alright on D, not that good and nor do they have the personell to be good or great anymore (Bowen is gone etc.). We have a few good defenders (Tim is the best one), the rest average or bad.

I still love the fact you think this team is clutch now and better than the 011 Mavs, it's laughable and especially after I debunked your post earlier about them not facing Aldridge, Thunder team and the Heat (Bosh etc.), you failed there and you know it. This team is not a title team, get over it.
Are you seriously equating this years Spurs team with a team that had Tyson Chandler, Dirk, Mahinimi(serviceable backup center), Brendan Haywood and Corey Brewer as its bigs to our squad who Is expecting Tiago Splitter to dominate down on the block? Or Matt Bonner(who choked away a open 3 tonight down the stretch btw) to finally step up in his mid 30s? This team is Charmin fucking soft and in certain positions has the basketball IQ of a paper bag.
This dude is nuts, I debunked all he said earlier with they played nobody and he just spews out bullshit. Ignore his posts all in all he has no points. This team is not that great, period.

Splits
04-02-2013, 01:21 AM
Or Matt Bonner(who choked away a open 3 tonight down the stretch btw)

No he didn't. Only 4th quarter shot he took:



8:15
Matt Bonner makes three point jumper (DeJuan Blair assists)
74-68

RuffnReadyOzStyle
04-02-2013, 01:25 AM
Very nearly beat the Grizzlies in Memphis with 2 starters out - nothing to worry about here.

Harlem with the goods. :tu

PS I predict that this season's playoffs will truly signify Kawhi's arrival. Prepare for the onslaught.

Brunodf
04-02-2013, 01:36 AM
How the hell is this team clutch? They go minutes late in games without a bucket! Have you been watching? They get stagnant and just freeze late in games while the other team hits their shots and gets close and eventually ties it or takes the lead! This is so predictable now at the end of games you can see it coming from a mile away. I called it watching it on the chat, Spurs will miss and they will come down and hit the last shot, well damn it happens again. A clutch team doesn't have stretches like this one late without a score (How exactly is this team clutch?). This team is alright on D, not that good and nor do they have the personell to be good or great anymore (Bowen is gone etc.). We have a few good defenders (Tim is the best one), the rest average or bad.

I still love the fact you think this team is clutch now and better than the 011 Mavs, it's laughable and especially after I debunked your post earlier about them not facing Aldridge, Thunder team and the Heat (Bosh etc.), you failed there and you know it. This team is not a title team, get over it.
This dude is nuts, I debunked all he said earlier with they played nobody and he just spews out bullshit. Ignore his posts all in all he has no points. This team is not that great, period.
:wtf I said they faced Aldridge/Bosh/Ibaka, you are crazy or trolling

HI-FI
04-02-2013, 01:39 AM
Very nearly beat the Grizzlies in Memphis with 2 starters out - nothing to worry about here.

Harlem with the goods. :tu

PS I predict that this season's playoffs will truly signify Kawhi's arrival. Prepare for the onslaught.

I hope you're right. I hope they're waiting to unleash him in the playoffs, that would be something else.

Sean Cagney
04-02-2013, 01:47 AM
:wtf I said they faced Aldridge/Bosh/Ibaka, you are crazy or trolling

So they faced them guys there who give us major problems and beat them but they were soft and a fluke! Your posts make no sense man, stop trying to twist things around before I pull up your posts and show how silly you look tying to prove this team is better than the Mavs 011 team. You are dead wrong and you know it, this team is not better nor a title team that would beat the OKC thunder right now nor the Heat. Mavs beat both, although Miamis first year and Bron CHOKED they still beat those teams and swept LA that year (Something we would not do then TBH). That team was good, give them their credit bro.
Very nearly beat the Grizzlies in Memphis with 2 starters out - nothing to worry about here.

Harlem with the goods. :tu

PS I predict that this season's playoffs will truly signify Kawhi's arrival. Prepare for the onslaught.
YES! WE DID! We lost to Miami though without Wade and Bron so that is equally as concerning as Memphis tonight nearly losing to us without two of our best out there! I guess Memphis and SA is in trouble then? I mean the games mean that much right now correct? I don't put too much stock into tonight true indeed, we should have had it and lost it but had two guys out.

I hope you are right about this seasons playoffs, the thing is things do not just magically fix themselves as far as our ISO problems at the end of games nor lapses on D late because the playoffs are here.

Brunodf
04-02-2013, 01:51 AM
So they faced them guys there who give us major problems and beat them but they were soft and a fluke! Your posts make no sense man, stop trying to twist things around before I pull up your posts and show how silly you look tying to prove this team is better than the Mavs 011 team. You are dead wrong and you know it, this team is not better nor a title team that would beat the OKC thunder right now nor the Heat. Mavs beat both, although Miamis first year and Bron CHOKED they still beat those teams and swept LA that year (Something we would not do then TBH). That team was good, give them their credit bro.
:huh Yeah, they give US major problems, but not them. Are u smoking something?
2- Never said they weren't good, i said they had many flaws.

TE
04-02-2013, 01:56 AM
Believe.

Sean Cagney
04-02-2013, 02:14 AM
:huh Yeah, they give US major problems, but not them. Are u smoking something?
2- Never said they weren't good, i said they had many flaws.

They had flaws as we all do, but they came together and had health at the right time to go win the title! Does this team? I doubt it. LOL at me smoking something, you said the spurs team this year is better than the Mavs team of 011 and they were not clutch nor good on D! Called Dirk a choker! It seems you are the one smoking something if you think this team will do what that team did in 011. The Spurs title teams go back from 99 to 07, you talk them dudes there we are talking about clutch and D! 08 you could throw in there as well until Manu got hurt, after that get the hell outta here they were not a title team. I face reality.

BillMc
04-02-2013, 02:20 AM
OP speaks the truth.

BillMc
04-02-2013, 02:21 AM
Very nearly beat the Grizzlies in Memphis with 2 starters out - nothing to worry about here.

Harlem with the goods. :tu

PS I predict that this season's playoffs will truly signify Kawhi's arrival. Prepare for the onslaught.

I agree. Manu's delayed entry into the playoffs will allow Kawhi to become the team's true third option.

Spurs da champs
04-02-2013, 02:23 AM
Other then that ignorance about the Nuggets I agree, team should get overwhelmed by the Thunder in WCF.

Brunodf
04-02-2013, 02:27 AM
They had flaws as we all do, but they came together and had health at the right time to go win the title! Does this team? I doubt it. LOL at me smoking something, you said the spurs team this year is better than the Mavs team of 011 and they were not clutch nor good on D! Called Dirk a choker! It seems you are the one smoking something if you think this team will do what that team did in 011. The Spurs title teams go back from 99 to 07, you talk them dudes there we are talking about clutch and D! 08 you could throw in there as well until Manu got hurt, after that get the hell outta here they were not a title team. I face reality.

1)Exactly, even a team like that could win the title, the Spurs can...
2)Never said that, i said that coming into that 2011 playoffs they were known as chokers, hell people even picked Portland to upset them.

Mavs had 2 above average defenders on their best lineup(Marion and Chandler), Spurs have 4: Tony/Kawhi/TD/Splitter, Green is questionable.

TE
04-02-2013, 02:31 AM
The team needs just one game to get into a rhythm. Build off from that.

Manu will be back before the regular season imo. The whole "3-4" weeks is precautionary.. This stretch of games has been the toughest of this season so it's not a surprise we've lost and won some close. Factor in Pop's erratic lineups, players injured and out of the lineup, we're okay.


One thing is for sure: the Spurs should aim to have homecourt advantage to have a greater chance vs OKC. First round matchups vs Houston/LA Lakers/Mavs should go no more than 5 games if the team gets into a rhythm which is totally possible tbh. Second round matchups vs either Memphis/LA Clippers/Denver will go 6 games, maybe 7 if either one of the teams mentioned has a fluke outing. The WCF vs OKC will go 6-7 games imo. If we have Manu playing 90-100% to his max + role players stepping up (Green, Neal, Tiago and Sjax) we will win the series imho.



Believe.

Sean Cagney
04-02-2013, 02:34 AM
1)Exactly, even a team like that could win the title, the Spurs can...
2)Never said that, i said that coming into that 2011 playoffs they were known as chokers, hell people even picked Portland to upset them.

Mavs had 2 above average defenders on their best lineup(Marion and Chandler), Spurs have 4: Tony/Kawhi/TD/Splitter, Green is questionable.
If we win a title this year or get deep I will shake your hand! You are a good fan! I want to believe! MAN this team makes it so tough though! The past 4 years or so have me just nervous to say they can win it all! I know you feel the same way at times. I want #5 so bad! I really do. I wish this team can put it together and make it to that promised land! This past few weeks makes me nervous and I don't know if they can there, but I hope so. I really want to believe.
The team needs just one game to get into a rhythm. Build off from that.

Manu will be back before the regular season imo. The whole "3-4" weeks is precautionary.. This stretch of games has been the toughest of this season so it's not a surprise we've lost and won some close. Factor in Pop's erratic lineups, players injured and out of the lineup, we're okay.


One thing is for sure: the Spurs need to have homecourt advantage to have a prayer vs OKC. First round matchups vs Houston/LA Lakers/Mavs should go no more than 5 games if the team gets into a rhythm which is totally possible tbh. Second round matchups vs either Memphis/LA Clippers/Denver will go 6 games, maybe 7 if either one of the teams mentioned has a fluke outing. The WCF vs OKC will go 6-7 games imo. If we have Manu playing 90-100% to his max + role players stepping up (Green, Neal, Tiago and Sjax) we will win the series imho.



Believe.
Well do not bank on that 1st seed anymore as we have OKC coming up this week and they can beat us at home IMO without Manu! If we need the #1 seed then why even mention it, they might not have it by the end of the week to be honest! I do want to believe, but you said we need HC against OKC and right now honestly that does not seem likely.

TE
04-02-2013, 02:40 AM
Other then that ignorance about the Nuggets I agree, team should get overwhelmed by the Thunder in WCF.

The Thunder have flaws tbh (Not having Spurs killer Beardnigga being the main one). We can win the series.

spurraider21
04-02-2013, 02:44 AM
And you don't think the Grizzlies had a little bit of a letdown like we did last night and the Heat did in November? However unlike us they ended up winning the game anyway. Moral victories won't get it done. We've got to be able to win games even if we don't deserve to win.

we aren't clawing for a playoff spot. as the playoffs near, i just want to see the team be able to play good, playoff style ball. i didn't see that against Miami, unfortunately, but I did see it plenty today. we were just undermanned at the end. the OKC game is the only game on the schedule left that I really care about

TE
04-02-2013, 02:47 AM
Well do not bank on that 1st seed anymore as we have OKC coming up this week and they can beat us at home IMO without Manu! If we need the #1 seed then why even mention it, they might not have it by the end of the week to be honest! I do want to believe, but you said we need HC against OKC and right now honestly that does not seem likely.

I worded it wrongly tbh :lol..inebriation.

The Spurs chances at defeating OKC rise exponentially if they have homecourt. We can win on the road. We've seen it over the years plenty of times. IIRC, we should have won game 4 had spearchucker Ibaka not had the flukiest shooting game of his life. We can win in OKC and we can beat OKC this year. Them trading Harden changes a big dynamic of the series.

Brunodf
04-02-2013, 02:49 AM
If we win a title this year or get deep I will shake your hand! You are a good fan! I want to believe! MAN this team makes it so tough though! The past 4 years or so have me just nervous to say they can win it all! I know you feel the same way at times. I want #5 so bad! I really do. I wish this team can put it together and make it to that promised land! This past few weeks makes me nervous and I don't know if they can there, but I hope so. I really want to believe.

I know how u feel, i am pissed too(Heat/Rockets/Memphis games), but i think this team is better build to the post season than the previous ones:
1- We are tall(No Blair/Bonner[i hope])
2- We have good defenders(None of our top 8 players[TP/Manu/Kawhi/TD/Splitter/Green/Jack/Diaw] is a liability on D)
3- This is Duncan best season in years
4- This is the best Tony ever...
5- OKC lost Beardo/Clippers rely a lot on CP3

Bad games happen...And isn't like we lost by 20+ vs good teams, we lost close games...

Russo21
04-02-2013, 02:51 AM
Maybe it's a good thing for the Spurs to go through some adversity. You need to learn to overcome adversity to be able to win a championship. If you ask me, shit went too smoothly last year, all of a sudden there was a bit of trouble in the WCF and boom, we lost 4 straight. If we can overcome this and get through and improve over the next 8 games and learn how to rebound from a loss i think we'll be in better stead then we were last year going into the playoffs.

And also, we've been playing like crap and our last 3 losses have been by a combined 5 points against playoff teams with 2 of the losses being on the road. It's not all bad.

TE
04-02-2013, 02:58 AM
Maybe it's a good thing for the Spurs to go through some adversity. You need to learn to overcome adversity to be able to win a championship. If you ask me, shit went too smoothly last year, all of a sudden there was a bit of trouble in the WCF and boom, we lost 4 straight. If we can overcome this and get through and improve over the next 8 games and learn how to rebound from a loss i think we'll be in better stead then we were last year going into the playoffs.

And also, we've been playing like crap and our last 3 losses have been by a combined 5 points against playoff teams with 2 of the losses being on the road. It's not all bad.
+1.

I agree wholeheartedly with last year's pre-surge going into the playoffs (winning 10 games). We peaked at the wrong time imo. Had we been peaking in time for the WCF, we probably would have won.

Sean Cagney
04-02-2013, 03:01 AM
I know how u feel, i am pissed too(Heat/Rockets/Memphis games), but i think this team is better build to the post season than the previous ones:
1- We are tall(No Blair/Bonner[i hope])
2- We have good defenders(None of our top 8 players[TP/Manu/Kawhi/TD/Splitter/Green/Jack/Diaw] is a liability on D)
3- This is Duncan best season in years
4- This is the best Tony ever...
5- OKC lost Beardo/Clippers rely a lot on CP3

Bad games happen...And isn't like we lost by 20+ vs good teams, we lost close games...

TRUE, I can't argue there.

benefactor
04-02-2013, 05:46 AM
what do you mean by "fine"?

"fine" enough to get ousted in the conference Finals? all or nothing for me. they won't be "fine" by my standards because i don't know how this team beats OKC or even Miami when it comes down to it.
:lol

There are fans out there that would sell a kidney to see their team in the conference finals. But don't worry...the lottery years/transition years are right around the corner and I'm sure you will either commit suicide or find another team to root for. Both seem to be desirable outcomes so good luck with whatever you choose.

benefactor
04-02-2013, 05:48 AM
And yes, the Spurs will be OK. Enjoy the ride and stop being so spoiled. It's not like they are barely out of the lottery like the Lakers.

siraulo23
04-02-2013, 05:56 AM
^ at this point if the spurs reach the finals, i consider it as if they won the championship

last year was the year when everything came together, manu was healthy offense was clicking, td played his best basketall in a couple of years and it wasnt enough

Horse
04-02-2013, 07:27 AM
I've been saying all along they have a bad taste in their mouths from last season and are so ready for the playoffs that you won't see what they can really do till then. I believe we'll see a super focused team thur.

Hoops Czar
04-02-2013, 07:36 AM
Very nearly beat the Grizzlies in Memphis with 2 starters out - nothing to worry about here.

Harlem with the goods. :tu

PS I predict that this season's playoffs will truly signify Kawhi's arrival. Prepare for the onslaught.

Lost to Miami with three of their starters sidelined. Again, A blown 4th quarter lead and can't get one defensive stop when they absolutely have to have one and your response is they nearly beat the Grizzlies with two starters out. Just how clueless can you get.

Spur|n|Austin
04-02-2013, 07:54 AM
The team needs just one game to get into a rhythm. Build off from that.

Manu will be back before the regular season imo. The whole "3-4" weeks is precautionary.. This stretch of games has been the toughest of this season so it's not a surprise we've lost and won some close. Factor in Pop's erratic lineups, players injured and out of the lineup, we're okay.


One thing is for sure: the Spurs should aim to have homecourt advantage to have a greater chance vs OKC. First round matchups vs Houston/LA Lakers/Mavs should go no more than 5 games if the team gets into a rhythm which is totally possible tbh. Second round matchups vs either Memphis/LA Clippers/Denver will go 6 games, maybe 7 if either one of the teams mentioned has a fluke outing. The WCF vs OKC will go 6-7 games imo. If we have Manu playing 90-100% to his max + role players stepping up (Green, Neal, Tiago and Sjax) we will win the series imho.



Believe.

:toast

therealtruth
04-02-2013, 08:00 AM
1)Exactly, even a team like that could win the title, the Spurs can...
2)Never said that, i said that coming into that 2011 playoffs they were known as chokers, hell people even picked Portland to upset them.

Mavs had 2 above average defenders on their best lineup(Marion and Chandler), Spurs have 4: Tony/Kawhi/TD/Splitter, Green is questionable.

The Mavs also had at least 4, Marion, Chandler, Kidd, Stevenson, Brewer possibly.

Creation88
04-02-2013, 10:51 AM
:lol

There are fans out there that would sell a kidney to see their team in the conference finals. But don't worry...the lottery years/transition years are right around the corner and I'm sure you will either commit suicide or find another team to root for. Both seem to be desirable outcomes so good luck with whatever you choose.

you're jumping to conclusions on my Spurs' fandom. you have no idea what you're talking about.

last year i was perfectly fine with reaching the WCF because NO ONE thought we would even compete but this year i thought we legitimately had/have a chance to win it all with another year under the belt of Tiago/Kawhi. this year is all or nothing for me.

Hoops Czar
04-02-2013, 11:12 AM
:lol

There are fans out there that would sell a kidney to see their team in the conference finals. But don't worry...the lottery years/transition years are right around the corner and I'm sure you will either commit suicide or find another team to root for. Both seem to be desirable outcomes so good luck with whatever you choose.

Do you mean like Miami and OKC fans or are you just being fickle? There's nothing wrong with having high expectations. It could be that some fans just care a little bit more than others. I also don't know any fan that would shorten their lifespan to see the Spurs lose in the WCF's for a second straight year unless they were selling sombody else's kidney.

Fabbs
04-02-2013, 11:15 AM
Too much worrying, tbh..
What did you say pre playoffs in
08
09
10
11
12
???

Hoops Czar
04-02-2013, 11:20 AM
What did you say pre playoffs in
08
09
10
11
12
???

He's a converted Heat fan trolling the Spurs board. What he's said since 2010 is completely irrelevant.

Fabbs
04-02-2013, 12:53 PM
Sounds like a job for the EC. ^^^^

http://wiki.godvillegame.com/images/thumb/d/df/Toothless_Sun_Dog.jpg/200px-Toothless_Sun_Dog.jpg

HarlemHeat37
04-02-2013, 01:13 PM
What did you say pre playoffs in
08
09
10
11
12
???

I thought the Spurs could beat LA in 2008
Predicted the Spurs would lose in the 1st round in '09(easy prediction)
Made a thread predicting the Suns would beat the Spurs in 2010
Thought Spurs-Memphis would be a toss-up and the Spurs weren't a legit contender in 2011
Predicted the Spurs would lose to OKC last year

I've been really accurate with my Spurs predictions, tbh..

McGusto55
04-02-2013, 01:13 PM
Spurs just hit a wall...have to regourp...

McGusto55
04-02-2013, 01:15 PM
I thought the Spurs could beat LA in 2008
Predicted the Spurs would lose in the 1st round in '09(easy prediction)
Made a thread predicting the Suns would beat the Spurs in 2010
Thought Spurs-Memphis would be a toss-up and the Spurs weren't a legit contender in 2011
Predicted the Spurs would lose to OKC last year...so what about this year?

I've been really accurate with my Spurs predictions, tbh..

emanueldavidginobili
04-02-2013, 02:21 PM
Everyone is freaking were playing horrible. And we have the SECOND best record in the entire NBA..

Sean Cagney
04-02-2013, 03:08 PM
Lost to Miami with three of their starters sidelined. Again, A blown 4th quarter lead and can't get one defensive stop when they absolutely have to have one and your response is they nearly beat the Grizzlies with two starters out. Just how clueless can you get.

I agree with you fully here and I have been saying this. This Spurs will be fine stuff and it will just magically come together during the playoffs is not reality. Reality is somewhere in between, some too extreme in here and some too negative but what you said is dead on. There is a real problem with the Spurs on O and D late in games, playoffs will not just magically fix that with the same personell.
I thought the Spurs could beat LA in 2008
Predicted the Spurs would lose in the 1st round in '09(easy prediction)
Made a thread predicting the Suns would beat the Spurs in 2010
Thought Spurs-Memphis would be a toss-up and the Spurs weren't a legit contender in 2011
Predicted the Spurs would lose to OKC last year

I've been really accurate with my Spurs predictions, tbh..
You are a realist then, bet you got bashed then and some told you to get off the waggon blah blah blah. You were right and see reality when it comes to this team. I think they can go far this year IF they are fully healthy and get back to say mid January ball they were playing, if not forget it.

boutons_deux
04-02-2013, 03:13 PM
Everyone is freaking were playing horrible. And we have the SECOND best record in the entire NBA..

totally negated by the last month's disaster.

they should be streaking now, something 9-1 in Last10, or close to it, momentum and team confidence into the playoffs. these screws hurt everybody's confidence, 'cept maybe Tim, people are afraid to shoot, play hot potato by over-passing with no real playmaking or intention. mindless ball movement

TD 21
04-11-2013, 12:44 AM
Anyone still think they'll be fine?

Floyd Pacquiao
04-11-2013, 12:47 AM
just got to get healthy

Amuseddaysleeper
04-11-2013, 01:14 AM
Would be shocked if Spurs get past the second round

Sean Cagney
04-11-2013, 01:17 AM
No they are not fine and they will not be fine! They have a ceiling of the 2nd round and of they pass that WCF outting at the most! Last year was their last shot with this team, sad but true. I love this team and will always love them, but some fans just have to accept the truth and realize barring a miracle it's over.

Sean Cagney
04-11-2013, 01:17 AM
Would be shocked if Spurs get past the second round
I would be shocked too.

200 miles
04-11-2013, 01:22 AM
Can we all finally agree that, on draft night, Pop must realize that the time has now ended for the 'draft-and-stash'?

SenorSpur
04-11-2013, 01:25 AM
I wish I could fool myself into thinking otherwise, but they're not going to be fine.

Robz4000
04-11-2013, 01:26 AM
As long as the team has a 90% Tony, they'll get to the WCF. Golden State is flawed on D, and Denver will be limited without Gallo and a hobbled Lawson

Pop
04-11-2013, 01:26 AM
I think this team has the potential to be scary even playing like they opted to do this year, I see flashes of it. They will be better in the POs for sure since it's more of an half court team this year and since we have little depth so shorter rotations will favor us. I'm just not sure I trust Pop.

Hoops Czar
04-11-2013, 02:05 AM
As long as the team has a 90% Tony, they'll get to the WCF. Golden State is flawed on D, and Denver will be limited without Gallo and a hobbled Lawson

Denver is limited? Define limited. Let's not be an optimistic jokester. Tony Parker doesn't get many offensive rebounds and they were throttled on the offensive glass AGAIN. Gallo wasn't much of a factor and Lawson had only 2 points on 1-7 shooting the last time these teams met and the Spurs won by a friggin point WITH Parker. You want to talk about flaws, look no furthe than the Spurs.... no backup pg that's even worth a shit, bigs that play small, and what seems like an endles string of injuries that continue to pile up. The team is deeply flawed in that it has no reliable offensive threat other than TP.

Robz4000
04-11-2013, 02:28 AM
Denver is limited? Define limited. Let's not be an optimistic jokester. Tony Parker doesn't get many offensive rebounds and they were throttled on the offensive glass AGAIN. Gallo wasn't much of a factor and Lawson had only 2 points on 1-7 shooting the last time these teams met and the Spurs won by a friggin point WITH Parker. You want to talk about flaws, look no furthe than the Spurs.... no backup pg that's even worth a shit, bigs that play small, and what seems like an endles string of injuries that continue to pile up. The team is deeply flawed in that it has no reliable offensive threat other than TP.

The team lost in Denver with no one other than TD coming to play. Mind, I wasn't able to catch the game, but when you're missing four of eight playoff starters and you lost by ten, it's whatever. Let's see where the team is at the end of the season. I don't see this team beating OKC, but they'll be in one of the weakest playoff brackets in years with HCA. They should have enough to win it as long as Tony can play38 meaningful minutes a game.

Sean Cagney
04-11-2013, 02:33 AM
Denver is limited? Define limited. Let's not be an optimistic jokester. Tony Parker doesn't get many offensive rebounds and they were throttled on the offensive glass AGAIN. Gallo wasn't much of a factor and Lawson had only 2 points on 1-7 shooting the last time these teams met and the Spurs won by a friggin point WITH Parker. You want to talk about flaws, look no furthe than the Spurs.... no backup pg that's even worth a shit, bigs that play small, and what seems like an endles string of injuries that continue to pile up. The team is deeply flawed in that it has no reliable offensive threat other than TP.
I agree, but go watch the Cavs since you are such a fan of them! That will solve all! LOL you say alot of truth in here, but why do you care honestly when you are a Cavs fan????????? You seem to be somewhat Spurs fan yourself and care alot of times.

thunderup
04-11-2013, 02:36 AM
Some of you guys are the most pessimistic fans I've ever come across. Despite us eventually getting that 1st seed, this isn't a knock on yall. I would characterize yall as a pickup team right now given the lineup changes and people being out and all. Yall are so quick to give up on your team. I can still see yall catching fire in the 2nd round against Denver. Denver is a great team, but they are desperate without Gallinari and a hobbled Lawson.

:lol @ calling yourselves fans of yall's teams when yall are so quick to underestimate your team

Kuestmaster
04-11-2013, 02:39 AM
we will get to the wcf at least. mark my words.

Robz4000
04-11-2013, 02:41 AM
Some of you guys are the most pessimistic fans I've ever come across. Despite us eventually getting that 1st seed, this isn't a knock on yall. I would characterize yall as a pickup team right now given the lineup changes and people being out and all. Yall are so quick to give up on your team. I can still see yall catching fire in the 2nd round against Denver. Denver is a great team, but they are desperate without Gallinari and a hobbled Lawson.

:lol @ calling yourselves fans of yall's teams when yall are so quick to underestimate your team

The fans here expect championships, can't blame them too much. This team isn't winning it all this year, but no reason to think they can't reach the Finals if the team is fully healthy. The fact the Thunder are still pretty formidable without Harden doesn't help settle nerves.

So, are you Narutoluva or not, btw?

thunderup
04-11-2013, 02:49 AM
The fans here expect championships, can't blame them too much.
As fans of a team that have excelled for years, one would think yall would understand the grind of a season and the crap that comes with it. Injuries happen especially to an old team of yalls nature. It will suck when we face that in 5-6 years.

This team isn't winning it all this year, but no reason to think they can't reach the Finals if the team is fully healthy. The fact the Thunder are still pretty formidable without Harden doesn't help settle nerves.
I don't agree with that at all. There are two teams that can compete and dethrone Miami, us and yall. It's all about getting on that roll and peaking at the right time, partner. I won't write off the Spurs until the second round. If their recent play continues then I will write yall off. Until then, it's too early. On a side note, I think Pop is playing mind games with the league by resting some players man. Sucker has to have something up his sleeve for all I know.


So, are you Narutoluva or not, btw?
What in heaven's name is that, partner?

thunderup
04-11-2013, 02:50 AM
we will get to the wcf at least. mark my words.
We'll be waiting. :toast

Sean Cagney
04-11-2013, 02:52 AM
As fans of a team that have excelled for years, one would think yall would understand the grind of a season and the crap that comes with it. Injuries happen especially to an old team of yalls nature. It will suck when we face that in 5-6 years.

I don't agree with that at all. There are two teams that can compete and dethrone Miami, us and yall. It's all about getting on that roll and peaking at the right time, partner. I won't write off the Spurs until the second round. If their recent play continues then I will write yall off. Until then, it's too early. On a side note, I think Pop is playing mind games with the league by resting some players man. Sucker has to have something up his sleeve for all I know.

What in heaven's name is that, partner?
You have more faith in our team than most do now that is for sure, whether you are blowing smoke or not I don't know but you are keeping some faith in this team outta respect for some reason. This team is done IMO, second round they might make but that is about IMO. Not pessimist at all, just a realist. They might slide into the WCF, but that is it.

Robz4000
04-11-2013, 02:57 AM
As fans of a team that have excelled for years, one would think yall would understand the grind of a season and the crap that comes with it. Injuries happen especially to an old team of yalls nature. It will suck when we face that in 5-6 years.

I don't agree with that at all. There are two teams that can compete and dethrone Miami, us and yall. It's all about getting on that roll and peaking at the right time, partner. I won't write off the Spurs until the second round. If their recent play continues then I will write yall off. Until then, it's too early. On a side note, I think Pop is playing mind games with the league by resting some players man. Sucker has to have something up his sleeve for all I know.

What in heaven's name is that, partner?


Miami is winning it this year and it's basically been assured since they won last year (sans serious injury).

Spurs have had more injuries this year than any other since they last rang, so it's not a stretch to think they won't be fully healthy in the playoffs.

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt for now on that last one...

thunderup
04-11-2013, 03:05 AM
You have more faith in our team than most do now that is for sure, whether you are blowing smoke or not I don't know but you are keeping some faith in this team outta respect for some reason. This team is done IMO, second round they might make but that is about IMO. Not pessimist at all, just a realist. They might slide into the WCF, but that is it.
I'm giving my take as a general basketball fan, partner. I can't write off the Spurs, ESPECIALLY given the circumstances yall's team face at the moment. Give it some time. Yall have to grind it out like the other teams. Nothing will come as easy as that ridiculous streak yall went on to carry throughout the playoffs. Some of yall are some serious cliff-jumpers. :lol

thunderup
04-11-2013, 03:08 AM
Miami is winning it this year and it's basically been assured since they won last year (sans serious injury).

Spurs have had more injuries this year than any other since they last rang, so it's not a stretch to think they won't be fully healthy in the playoffs.

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt for now on that last one...

I hope that first part ain't true partner. If either we or yall make it that far, I hope we give it everything we got and we're peaking at the right time. Last year, we just didn't get it going sans game 1. James was out of it for the better part of that series. If he were on point, the series would have undoubtedly been more competitive and who knows? Maybe the outcome would've been different.

I just don't want to see those assholes from Miami win again.

Sean Cagney
04-11-2013, 01:12 PM
I'm giving my take as a general basketball fan, partner. I can't write off the Spurs, ESPECIALLY given the circumstances yall's team face at the moment. Give it some time. Yall have to grind it out like the other teams. Nothing will come as easy as that ridiculous streak yall went on to carry throughout the playoffs. Some of yall are some serious cliff-jumpers. :lol

Nobody is jumping off a cliff! The injuries right now at this time of year and they play the last month is a legitmate concern! This looks eerily similar to 011 late in the year when they limped into the playoffs! I thank GOD there is no Grizzlies waiting for them in the first round. They might get it together, the looks of it right now though I have questions about it and just will wait and see.

in2deep
04-11-2013, 02:22 PM
it's not only injuries

our backups are playing awful. Not just bad, not just being dominated. Plain awful and painful to look at.

hater
04-11-2013, 03:33 PM
Even in this BEST CASE SCENARIO:
round 1. spurs vs. rockets (hopefully)

Rotation:
TP
Duncan
Kawhi
Green
Splitter

DeColo
Jackson

damn, unfortunately Pop will be forced to play Bonner and Blair due to Diaw injury :lmao

I'm gonna go ahead and say if any of these turds sees more than 10 mins per game in round 1, we probably will not even get past round 1:
Neal, Mills, Bonner, Blair, COJO

time to wake up ppl. Time to push the panic button. The Holocaust seems imminent. I wouldn't bother canceling everyones early summer gettaways :lol

benefactor
04-11-2013, 03:57 PM
Anyone still think they'll be fine?
With half the team injured? Probably not. Quality bump though...maybe you can wait until they are down to like 8 active healthy players and bump this thread again. :tu

TD 21
04-11-2013, 04:27 PM
With half the team injured? Probably not. Quality bump though...maybe you can wait until they are down to like 8 active healthy players and bump this thread again. :tu

You don't get it. I've been saying this for weeks; before half the team was injured. Back then, I was getting the usual cliches recited in response. So this was meant rhetorically, because you'd have to be either in denial or flat out delusional to still think this team is or will be fine.

DesignatedT
04-11-2013, 04:51 PM
Parker, Manu, Diaw, Jack will all be ready to play round 1. Dunno if they will be 100% but they will play. Just watch.

The_Worlds_finest
04-11-2013, 04:57 PM
I see the light at the end of any tunnel but this season is beginning to look like 10-11. Limping into the playoffs with the potential to play a young fast team in Rockets or the Lakers who will have a much better shot at winging it by being in better health. Don't get me wrong I am as excited as the next but it isn't looking pretty.

benefactor
04-11-2013, 05:33 PM
You don't get it. I've been saying this for weeks; before half the team was injured. Back then, I was getting the usual cliches recited in response. So this was meant rhetorically, because you'd have to be either in denial or flat out delusional to still think this team is or will be fine.
I get that you bumped a thread about them being fine after most of the key players were injured. If all those players get back to close to 100%, then they will be fine(if you consider making the WCF fine, which I do).

Horse
04-11-2013, 05:44 PM
I keep hearing all this laker talk has anyone seen how awful their D is? Portland who started 4 rookies scored 69 by halftime last night.

The_Worlds_finest
04-11-2013, 06:07 PM
A WCF appearance would mean DAMN good things.

TD 21
04-12-2013, 05:01 PM
I get that you bumped a thread about them being fine after most of the key players were injured. If all those players get back to close to 100%, then they will be fine(if you consider making the WCF fine, which I do).

I commented in the thread within' a day of it being made, too, so what's your point?

HarlemHeat37
05-21-2013, 11:56 PM
Would be shocked if Spurs get past the second round


I would be shocked too.


No they are not fine and they will not be fine! They have a ceiling of the 2nd round and of they pass that WCF outting at the most! Last year was their last shot with this team, sad but true. I love this team and will always love them, but some fans just have to accept the truth and realize barring a miracle it's over.


I wish I could fool myself into thinking otherwise, but they're not going to be fine.



Even in this BEST CASE SCENARIO:
round 1. spurs vs. rockets (hopefully)

Rotation:
TP
Duncan
Kawhi
Green
Splitter

DeColo
Jackson

damn, unfortunately Pop will be forced to play Bonner and Blair due to Diaw injury :lmao

I'm gonna go ahead and say if any of these turds sees more than 10 mins per game in round 1, we probably will not even get past round 1:
Neal, Mills, Bonner, Blair, COJO

time to wake up ppl. Time to push the panic button. The Holocaust seems imminent. I wouldn't bother canceling everyones early summer gettaways :lol

:lol hater wrong, as usual..

HarlemHeat37
05-21-2013, 11:58 PM
Denver is limited? Define limited. Let's not be an optimistic jokester. Tony Parker doesn't get many offensive rebounds and they were throttled on the offensive glass AGAIN. Gallo wasn't much of a factor and Lawson had only 2 points on 1-7 shooting the last time these teams met and the Spurs won by a friggin point WITH Parker. You want to talk about flaws, look no furthe than the Spurs.... no backup pg that's even worth a shit, bigs that play small, and what seems like an endles string of injuries that continue to pile up. The team is deeply flawed in that it has no reliable offensive threat other than TP.

:lmao Hoops Czar continuing to fail in every way..

Every one of us makes shitty predictions at times, but Hoops Czar's success rate is like 10%, tbh:lol..

InRareForm
05-21-2013, 11:59 PM
:lol classic bump HH

Darius McCrary
05-21-2013, 11:59 PM
Tbh, your OP was nebulous and very encompassing.

HarlemHeat37
05-21-2013, 11:59 PM
Anyways, still a long way to go, not to mention the propensity of choking from these Spurs, but being up 2-0 in the WCF is more than 75% of this forum expected, tbh..

Some of you niggas worry too much:lol..

HarlemHeat37
05-22-2013, 12:01 AM
Tbh, your OP was nebulous and very encompassing.

Harlem is correct 75% of the time, tbh..

:lol this guy that was afraid of Derrick Fisher and had a meltdown because Stephen "ugly-ass, can't make a shot anymore" Jackson was released..

Darius McCrary
05-22-2013, 12:07 AM
Harlem is correct 75% of the time, tbh..

:lol this guy that was afraid of Derrick Fisher and had a meltdown because Stephen "ugly-ass, can't make a shot anymore" Jackson was released..

You said Fisher would blow and he didn't......

Hoops Czar
05-22-2013, 12:42 AM
:lmao Hoops Czar continuing to fail in every way..

Every one of us makes shitty predictions at times, but Hoops Czar's success rate is like 10%, tbh:lol..

Well if it isn't the little BIG man with a premature ejaculation bump. Not surprising you'd bump a prediction made before the Westbrook injury to call me out. That's how HH rolls.

:lol and oh, it's a seven game series, not two so keep your pants on, or don't. I really don't care.

Amuseddaysleeper
05-22-2013, 12:48 AM
..

:lol

Spurs were looking BRUTAL heading into the playoffs come on buddy

Hoops Czar
05-22-2013, 12:52 AM
Harlem is correct 75% of the time, tbh..

:lol this guy that was afraid of Derrick Fisher and had a meltdown because Stephen "ugly-ass, can't make a shot anymore" Jackson was released..

Harlem picks the heavy favorites and then calls himself a great prognosticator. I don't know where you think I was worried about Derek Fisher ( last year's postseason notwithstanding), and I wasn't a fan of stephen Jackson the second time around. Seriously, are your undies cutting off the circulation to your nuts?

Sean Cagney
05-22-2013, 01:27 AM
:lol hater wrong, as usual..

Oh yeah I am a hater now because of stuff I said in 4 whatever! YEAH I AM A HATER! Now you bring this up! We were stumbling then and I had legit questions so I am a hater! Fuck outta here. Glad we are up 2-0 as you are. Enjoy your night.


I am as big as a fan as there is, don't call me a hater for having questions.:nope:sleep
:lol

Spurs were looking BRUTAL heading into the playoffs come on buddyYeah they were and now he brings this crap up tonight! Good way to bring it up when we are two wins away from the finals! Like you did not have questions yourself. What is the point of it? Instead of enjoying tonights win he is doing this against our fans and trying to call someone out! He must be insecure! Oh well! GOD BLESS and GOODNGHT! SHEED STYLE :hat

ElNono
05-22-2013, 01:29 AM
I expect Sean Cagney to at least give some due props, tbh.... we had long convos at the end of the regular season about the Spurs defense, and Sean disagreed it was good... I thought the Spurs defense has been the stalwart of this team, especially since mid-round 2, and what got them to this point, IMO.

BTW, HH was talking about hater the poster, not calling you a hater, AFAIK...

Sean Cagney
05-22-2013, 01:31 AM
I expect Sean Cagney to at least give some due props, tbh.... we had long convos at the end of the regular season about the Spurs defense, and Sean disagreed it was good... I thought the Spurs defense has been the stalwart of this team, especially since mid-round 2, and what got them to this point, IMO.

Yep, they steppped up! I don't owe you or others nothing but I am glad they are playing well and up 2-0! Enjoy your night man! Why are we focusing on what I said late April now? Or mid April that is? THEY LOOKED bad then and you know it! They turned it up a few notches! I am glad as you are! GOD BLESS AND GOODNIGHT....... WE WON. Now go have fun.

DAF86
05-22-2013, 01:33 AM
I have a better thread to bump, tbh but I will wait just in case.

Sean Cagney
05-22-2013, 01:36 AM
Anyways, still a long way to go, not to mention the propensity of choking from these Spurs, but being up 2-0 in the WCF is more than 75% of this forum expected, tbh..

Some of you niggas worry too much:lol..
Your right there! I am not a Spurs hater though at all. You are wrong there. Long way to GO, so hope they stay focused and we saw 2-0 last year! Lets hope this year is different! I hope they win it all this year! Hope the good play sides late 4th keeps up! GO SPURS!


Up things when we win it all next time damnit! WHY SO EARLY! GOOD LORD I wish we won the title and you did this crap.
I have a better thread to bump, tbh but I will wait just in case.

Please do, like when we win the title or IF WE DO! Do not do it this early.

SenorSpur
05-22-2013, 01:51 AM
Anyways, still a long way to go, not to mention the propensity of choking from these Spurs, but being up 2-0 in the WCF is more than 75% of this forum expected, tbh..

Some of you niggas worry too much:lol..

So anyone who has any sort of constructive critique about the way the team is playing at a particular given time is a hater? That's precious.

Hey, the Spurs didn't necessarily breeze into the playoffs playing their best basketball. Any idiot could see that. The inference was if they didn't get their shit together and continued playing shitty basketball, they were not going to be fine. You need to consider the context of some of these posts before you arbitrarily label someone a hater. If there were true, most of us wouldn't care enough to be on this forum in the first place.

TD 21
05-22-2013, 06:12 PM
So anyone who has any sort of constructive critique about the way the team is playing at a particular given time is a hater? That's precious.

Hey, the Spurs didn't necessarily breeze into the playoffs playing their best basketball. Any idiot could see that. The inference was if they didn't get their shit together and continued playing shitty basketball, they were not going to be fine. You need to consider the context of some of these posts before you arbitrarily label someone a hater. If there were true, most of us wouldn't care enough to be on this forum in the first place.

Yeah. No one could have foreseen the numerous fortuitous bounces that have gone in this team's favor (from Westbrook's injury to the Clippers being eliminated to Curry and Bogut re-aggravating past injuries mid series to the unexpected and rare 3 day break during the WCF and miraculously, they don't have a single player out themselves . . . if you'd have told me all this then, of course I'd have agreed that they'd be fine).

I said all along that they'd win this series barring a significant injury, but I'm still not totally convinced they're fine. Not with one guy who looks capable of scoring 20+ right now and three of their top six playing well below their standards in general.

anonoftheinternets
05-22-2013, 07:01 PM
Oh yeah I am a hater now because of stuff I said in 4 whatever! YEAH I AM A HATER! Now you bring this up! We were stumbling then and I had legit questions so I am a hater! Fuck outta here. Glad we are up 2-0 as you are. Enjoy your night.



whats wrong with you? He said "hater" referring to the poster "hater"

anonoftheinternets
05-22-2013, 07:03 PM
Harlem is correct 75% of the time, tbh..

:lol this guy that was afraid of Derrick Fisher and had a meltdown because Stephen "ugly-ass, can't make a shot anymore" Jackson was released..

Yea but hoops czar's predictions can be used to correctly guess outcomes 90% of the time..... so long as you take the opposite of what he says...
:lol

Sean Cagney
05-22-2013, 11:29 PM
whats wrong with you? He said "hater" referring to the poster "hater"

He quoted me twice on there so I take it as me too since I was quoted. The guys name is Hater you are right but yeah he meant him not being right. He did quote me twice though there! The Spurs were struggling down the stretch and looked very bad and alot noticed that, for me to have concerns and say they might not be fine and so on doesn't mean I need to be quoted later because they are winning again! I had concerns and alot did, nothing wrong with that.

Anyways glad to be up 2-0 in the WCF, go out there and win two more Spurs and get us back to the finals.
Yea but hoops czar's predictions can be used to correctly guess outcomes 90% of the time..... so long as you take the opposite of what he says...
:lol

Now I DO AGREE on this part here 100% :lol

HarlemHeat37
05-25-2013, 10:56 PM
I was referring to "hater" the poster, tbh..

The boy Harlem, right as usual, never losing hope in his Spurs, tbh..

therealtruth
05-25-2013, 11:43 PM
I don't the think the Spurs have played their best yet. But they're peaking at the right time.

ElNono
12-24-2013, 09:22 AM
Couldn't disagree more.

What gives you reason to think any of those issues will be rectified, other than maybe Parker getting close to 100%? Most of these issues are season long, only they're more glaring now.

This isn't '05 or even '07: They can't go 3-4 rounds with a limited - to no bench. They don't have the legs for it. They need steady contributions from 9 and that's just not going to happen.

And forget about how flawed everyone else is. When you have this many issues, are in the state they're in and have had back to back collapses to end your season (that's got to be weighing on them mentally), all that goes out the window. There's no question that at their best, they're better than everyone in the West, with the possible exception of the Thunder, but they're not so much better that they can't lose a series to a bunch of them. They probably will find a way to get through the 1st round, but if they have to blow their load doing so, then all bets are off in the 2nd round.

:lmao

ElNono
12-24-2013, 09:34 AM
Anyone still think they'll be fine?

:lmao

ElNono
12-24-2013, 09:35 AM
You don't get it. I've been saying this for weeks; before half the team was injured. Back then, I was getting the usual cliches recited in response. So this was meant rhetorically, because you'd have to be either in denial or flat out delusional to still think this team is or will be fine.

:lmao

Kool Bob Love
12-24-2013, 09:37 AM
Even in this BEST CASE SCENARIO:
round 1. spurs vs. rockets (hopefully)

Rotation:
TP
Duncan
Kawhi
Green
Splitter

DeColo
Jackson

damn, unfortunately Pop will be forced to play Bonner and Blair due to Diaw injury :lmao

I'm gonna go ahead and say if any of these turds sees more than 10 mins per game in round 1, we probably will not even get past round 1:
Neal, Mills, Bonner, Blair, COJO

time to wake up ppl. Time to push the panic button. The Holocaust seems imminent. I wouldn't bother canceling everyones early summer gettaways :lol

:lmao

benefactor
12-24-2013, 09:39 AM
Couldn't disagree more.

:cryWhat gives you reason to think any of those issues will be rectified:cry, other than maybe Parker getting close to 100%? :cryMost of these issues are season long, only they're more glaring now.:cry

:cryThis isn't '05 or even '07: They can't go 3-4 rounds with a limited - to no bench.:cry They don't have the legs for it. :cryThey need steady contributions from 9 and that's just not going to happen.:cry

:cryAnd forget about how flawed everyone else is.:cry When you have this many issues, are in the state they're in and have had back to back c:cryllapses to end your seas:cryn (that's got to be weighing on them mentally), all that goes out the window. There's no question that at their best, they're better than everyone in the West, with the possible exception of the Thunder, but they're not so much better that they can't lose a series to a bunch of them. :cryThey probably will find a way to get through the 1st round, but if they have t:cry blow their load doing so, then all bets are off in the 2nd round.:cry

Bill_Brasky
12-24-2013, 10:03 AM
Cliff jumping faggots.

timtonymanu
12-24-2013, 10:10 AM
HarlemHeat being a legend like always.

I'm scared for the Spurs this year. Harlem predicts that they're losing in the Finals again. :depressed

TD 21
12-25-2013, 10:46 PM
If you possessed an ounce of reading comprehension, you'd realize I was right about virtually everything.

And if everything (up until the end of game six, obviously) breaks just right again, then yeah, of course they can win the championship . . . but even more needs to break right this time around and suffice it to say, I don't like the odds of it happening two years in a row.