***OFFICIAL 2013 TEXAS RANGERS THREAD***

[thunderup]

:lmao ahahaha rangers

[Robz4000]

This team's in choke mode tonight.

[Bill_Brasky]

chokingest team ever :lol

[Spursfan092120]

Perez better be thanking Martin for that one.

[Spursfan092120]

Gotta get something going quick.

[Spursfan092120]

Perez is finally rolling, and we take him out.

[Robz4000]

Washington at his best tbh

[irishock]

intense

[irishock]

WOW. :lol

[thunderup]

:lol

[Spursfan092120]

lol thinking you're going to troll people in the Rangers thread. Obviously you guys are rookies. Save it for the NBA Forum. We don't get phased, son.

[Spursfan092120]

Well...good season guys...losing Cruz and not having our best pitchers for most of the season was a real downer this year, but we'll be back next year.

[weebo]

Well...good season guys...losing Cruz and not having our best pitchers for most of the season was a real downer this year, but we'll be back next year.

:lol

[Chief Brody]

inb4 the "Price is Right" espn headline

[Biernutz]

Hate to see Texas lose out again. Sucks for Nolan........

[Chris]

Well...good season guys...losing Cruz and not having our best pitchers for most of the season was a real downer this year, but we'll be back next year.

Optimist would say losing Cruz and the injured starters allowed us to develop our prospects. Garza was pretty much a disappointment all year, along with Dutch. Martin and Gentry played great, and Alex Rios was terrific in his tenure. It was exciting watching this group all year and everything to this point has been gravy since a lot of experts had us out early in September. Washington did a great job despite what people think of his decisions. I expect the Rangers to stay competitive next year with a few adjustments to the batting lineup. It's going to be a long offseason :lol

[Clipper Nation]

Coke Fiend Washington has to be out after this latest chokejob, right? :lol

[Robz4000]

Price isn't gonna be lit up tonight. If the Rangers give up 3 or more runs tonight they'll lose.

When you're right, you're right.

Offseason plan:

-Pitching: Keep Holland, Darvish, Garza, and Perez as starters. Keep Scheppers, Storia, and Nathan for the bullpen. Trade/release the rest.

-Infield: Keep Kinsler and Beltre. Trade either Andrus or Profar. Move Moreland to the bench. Keep Soto, let Pierzynski go.

-Outfield: Keep Gentry, Martin, and Rios. Try to keep Cruz but I'm fine with him leaving too.

-Jettison the fuck out of everyone else, especially Murphy.

-Acquire two vets that can put the bat to the ball. Find another solid pitcher that can fill in for injuries.

-Lastly, fire Washington tbh.

[Clipper Nation]

384884360391823360

:lmao

[Robz4000]

384884360391823360

:lmao

y u do dis? ;-;

[irishock]

:lol not sure who's worse, washington or leyland

[Jacob1983]

Washington will be back in 2014 but that will be his last year as the manager for the Rangers. The only thing that can save him in 2014 is a World Series championship. If the Rangers have a bad start in 2014, I wouldn't be surprised if the Rangers fire him in May or June. I give props to the Rangers for forcing game 163 but they shouldn't have even been in that situation. If they had played just a tiny bit better, they would have at least been a wild card team. And why do the Rangers get a pass for being chokers? Before 2011, the Mavs and Dirk got bashed 24/7 for their choking.

[Phillip]

Optimist would say losing Cruz and the injured starters allowed us to develop our prospects. Garza was pretty much a disappointment all year, along with Dutch. Martin and Gentry played great, and Alex Rios was terrific in his tenure. It was exciting watching this group all year and everything to this point has been gravy since a lot of experts had us out early in September. Washington did a great job despite what people think of his decisions. I expect the Rangers to stay competitive next year with a few adjustments to the batting lineup. It's going to be a long offseason :lol

Dutch had a few bad games here recently, but I wouldn't say he was a disappointment at all. The majority of the year he was a stud, consistently hovering either just below or just above an ERA of 3.00

Less bad breaks healthwise, and this team makes the playoffs easily. But Wash is a horrible strategist. He called for bunt at some really bad times in the game today. I think its time for him to go.

[Spursfan092120]

Optimist would say losing Cruz and the injured starters allowed us to develop our prospects. Garza was pretty much a disappointment all year, along with Dutch. Martin and Gentry played great, and Alex Rios was terrific in his tenure. It was exciting watching this group all year and everything to this point has been gravy since a lot of experts had us out early in September. Washington did a great job despite what people think of his decisions. I expect the Rangers to stay competitive next year with a few adjustments to the batting lineup. It's going to be a long offseason :lol
Yeah it is. If we can stay healthy on the mound and add a little more power, we'll be just fine.

[Spursfan092120]

2 World Series' appearances in 3 years and some of you want Washington's head? Obviously with the "Fear the Deer" and the chemistry this team has, he's done something right. The Rangers have never been more successful than they have been these past few years. I still like him as Manager, and I hope he signs another contract...unless of course we completely fall apart next year, though I don't see it.

[Spursfan092120]

Washington will be back in 2014 but that will be his last year as the manager for the Rangers. The only thing that can save him in 2014 is a World Series championship. If the Rangers have a bad start in 2014, I wouldn't be surprised if the Rangers fire him in May or June. I give props to the Rangers for forcing game 163 but they shouldn't have even been in that situation. If they had played just a tiny bit better, they would have at least been a wild card team. And why do the Rangers get a pass for being chokers? Before 2011, the Mavs and Dirk got bashed 24/7 for their choking.
Rangers had injured pitching most of the year, and lost our best/only power hitter for 50 games, and they still almost reached the playoffs. I don't know why people keep saying they choked. They shouldn't have gotten to the playoffs in their situation...they met expectations.

[The Reckoning]

lol at people saying wash was a genius when they were playing world series

[Jacob1983]

So why don't the Rangers get the pre 2011 Mavs treatment?

[monosylab1k]

lol at people saying wash was a genius when they were playing world series

Who said that?

[Fabbs]

Andrus bunt in the 8th, acting on his own or Washingtons call?

Either way it was a very good bunt. That was simply an excellent defensive play by Price.
9 out of 10 that bunt gets a single vs a lefthander.

[Fabbs]

Bonehead moves by MultiRanger?

Getting picked off twice.
Pitching ball placement to Longoria in the 6th. He has been hammering that low middle ball.
http://espn.go.com/blog/statsinfo/post/_/id/74019/rays-had-the-right-combination-vs-rangers

[The Reckoning]

Who said that?

i think ESPN did a segment on him and how his risky substitutions and calls were hidden genius

[Phillip]

Rangers had injured pitching most of the year, and lost our best/only power hitter for 50 games, and they still almost reached the playoffs. I don't know why people keep saying they choked. They shouldn't have gotten to the playoffs in their situation...they met expectations.

That is all true, but considering the fact that this is two straight years where they had the best team on paper in the AL, yet flamed out towards the end of the season and couldn't string together a series of clutch hits to save their lives, something isn't right mentally with this team. That falls on coaching.

[Biernutz]

Rangers can't sell out playoff games. Josh said last year when he left that Dallas
is a football town.

[BUMP]

384884360391823360

:lmao

i have no problem with Wash.

tbh the Rangers roster, as assembled, performed about how they were expected imho. Best slugger out and a lineup that is only slightly above average without him, a decent pitching staff with questions at the 4 and 5 spot all season, letting players walk in the offseason w/o picking up big names in return.

should anybody really have expected more from this team?

[Spursfan092120]

That is all true, but considering the fact that this is two straight years where they had the best team on paper in the AL, yet flamed out towards the end of the season and couldn't string together a series of clutch hits to save their lives, something isn't right mentally with this team. That falls on coaching.
Yeah..probably a bit true...but we'll have to see. I still feel he's a good coach for this team.

[Spursfan092120]

i have no problem with Wash.

tbh the Rangers roster, as assembled, performed about how they were expected imho. Best slugger out and a lineup that is only slightly above average without him, a decent pitching staff with questions at the 4 and 5 spot all season, letting players walk in the offseason w/o picking up big names in return.

should anybody really have expected more from this team?
My point exactly. Couldn't agree more.

[Bill_Brasky]

washington has always been a horrible decision maker. how the fuck did they not have Darvish on the mound for a win or go home game?

why the fuck did he put that old fuck Darren Oliver in to try and close out the series? the world fucking series? how does a manager get away with such stupidity and still have a job? I don't understand baseball sometimes.

[txstr1986]

washington has always been a horrible decision maker. how the fuck did they not have Darvish on the mound for a win or go home game?

Darvish pitched in game 162 on Sunday in what was also a "win or go home" game. If Wash started Perez in game 162 in order to keep Darvish available for game 163, and if the Rangers lost game 162, you would be saying the exact same thing.

[Bill_Brasky]

Darvish pitched in game 162 on Sunday in what was also a "win or go home" game. If Wash started Perez in game 162 in order to keep Darvish available for game 163, and if the Rangers lost game 162, you would be saying the exact same thing.

you save darvish. there's a big difference between facing the angels and rays. someone else would have done fine on Sunday.

[Spursfan092120]

washington has always been a horrible decision maker. how the fuck did they not have Darvish on the mound for a win or go home game?

why the fuck did he put that old fuck Darren Oliver in to try and close out the series? the world fucking series? how does a manager get away with such stupidity and still have a job? I don't understand baseball sometimes.
Darvish pitched in the game that got us IN to that game. You can't pitch two games in a row. Besides, our lineup hasn't hit for shit with Darvish on the mound this year. You have to go with who's fresh..that's more important than anything. The bolded phrase couldn't be more right.

[Spursfan092120]

you save darvish. there's a big difference between facing the angels and rays. someone else would have done fine on Sunday.
Angels were begging to be spoilers, and without Darvish, it's quite possible they would have been. Saving a pitcher for a playoff tiebreaker that might not happen is the equivalent of a receiver turning his head to run before he catches the ball. It's stupid, it's cocky, and it's going to get you beat.

[Fabbs]

Angels were begging to be spoilers, and without Darvish, it's quite possible they would have been. Saving a pitcher for a playoff tiebreaker that might not happen is the equivalent of a receiver turning his head to run before he catches the ball. It's stupid, it's cocky, and it's going to get you beat.
RangerFan mob armed with pitchforks would have been coming for Washington had Angel pulled the upset while Darvish was being saved.
http://walletgenius.com/wordpress/uploads/2010/05/Image5.jpg

[BUMP]

they had the best team on paper in the AL.

Last year, maybe, but this year the Tigers have em beat. Cabrera/Fielder back to back in that lineup and then Verlander, Scherzer, and Sanchez (AL leader in ERA) pitching.

If we're going by on paper you could even argue that the Multiscioscias are better

[BUMP]

Angels were begging to be spoilers, and without Darvish, it's quite possible they would have been. Saving a pitcher for a playoff tiebreaker that might not happen is the equivalent of a receiver turning his head to run before he catches the ball. It's stupid, it's cocky, and it's going to get you beat.

As far as that logic goes, I actually would've saved Darvish for the TB game. Either way you have to win 2 games to get to the playoffs. Why not just put your team in the best position to win both instead of going all out for 1? Who cares if you lose the 1st game instead of losing the 'play in' game? it's not like it's really that big of a difference.

If you have Darvish vs Vargas and then Perez vs Price, you put yourself in a great position to win the first, but not the second.

If you have Perez vs Vargas and then Darvish vs Price, you're probably the slight favorite in both.

[BUMP]

To play Devil's Advocate of my own post, what if you did the whole Perez vs Vargas route, lost that gamble, and then David Price ends up burning to death in a grease fire the next day meaning that TB has to call up an emergency starter in which you would have had a great shot to win anyway but you already lost so you lost your chance. Then you'd also be kicking yourself. It's like the quantum mechanics of dual-wave particality (sp?) and Schrodinger's cat. You really don't know the outcome until you turn around and see it for yourself

[BUMP]

sorry for the triple post

[Robz4000]

I'd of pitched Perez on Sunday and saved Darvish tbh. The fact of the matter was Angles < Rays and you knew the Rays were gonna have their best at the plate for 163.

[Spursfan092120]

As far as that logic goes, I actually would've saved Darvish for the TB game. Either way you have to win 2 games to get to the playoffs. Why not just put your team in the best position to win both instead of going all out for 1? Who cares if you lose the 1st game instead of losing the 'play in' game? it's not like it's really that big of a difference.

If you have Darvish vs Vargas and then Perez vs Price, you put yourself in a great position to win the first, but not the second.

If you have Perez vs Vargas and then Darvish vs Price, you're probably the slight favorite in both.
Yeah..I see on paper that would be a good scenario...but they were going off the "Win Now" scenario, I assume. I can't blame them either way. And they're damned if they do, and damned if they don't.

[blah blah blah]

To play Devil's Advocate of my own post, what if you did the whole Perez vs Vargas route, lost that gamble, and then David Price ends up burning to death in a grease fire the next day meaning that TB has to call up an emergency starter in which you would have had a great shot to win anyway but you already lost so you lost your chance. Then you'd also be kicking yourself. It's like the quantum mechanics of dual-wave particality (sp?) and Schrodinger's cat. You really don't know the outcome until you turn around and see it for yourself

wut did i just read?

[td4mvp2k]

Lol not 1 game did I c... Dam good I didnt... Fn rangers... :td

[Spursfan092120]

wut did i just read?
A comment from someone who knows a hell of a lot about Rangers baseball. He's got the credentials...don't step.

[Biernutz]

CEO Nolan Ryan and General Manger (http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2013/10/04/sources-nolan-jd-involved-in-heated-confrontation/#)Jon Daniels had to be separated by manager Ron Washington Tuesday night in the midst of a Rangers sit-down meeting. This is not the first time they did not see eye to eye. The reason for the fight speculation that it was over bench coach Jackie More and first base coach Dave Anderson. After the playoff loss the two coaches would not be back with the team, so this could have started the row. I don't think I would start any crap with Nolan..........
http://network.yardbarker.com/mlb/article_external/nolan_ryan_jon_daniels_reportedly_had_heated_confr ontation/14704070?linksrc=story_home_module_head_14704070


http://youtu.be/SdyeWgsa_R8

[monosylab1k]

To play Devil's Advocate of my own post, what if you did the whole Perez vs Vargas route, lost that gamble, and then David Price ends up burning to death in a grease fire the next day meaning that TB has to call up an emergency starter in which you would have had a great shot to win anyway but you already lost so you lost your chance. Then you'd also be kicking yourself. It's like the quantum mechanics of dual-wave particality (sp?) and Schrodinger's cat. You really don't know the outcome until you turn around and see it for yourself


wut did i just read?


A comment from someone who knows a hell of a lot about Rangers baseball. He's got the credentials...don't step.

This has got to be the greatest three post sequence in SpursTalk history.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

:lmao:lmao

[Chris]

Nolan Ryan just left us high and dry.

[Michael Jordan.]

NOLAN RYAN TO RETIRE AS TEXAS RANGERS CHIEF EXECUTIVE OFFICER EFFECTIVE OCTOBER 31


Arlington, Texas—Texas Rangers Chief Executive Officer Nolan Ryan today announced his retirement, effective October 31.

“This is the right time for me to step down from my role of overseeing the Rangers organization,” said Ryan. “I am extremely proud of what this organization has accomplished. On the field, we have enjoyed great success at the major league level. The fans have supported us in record numbers the last two years and we have been able to upgrade the ballpark and enhance the in-game experience to reward that loyalty.

“We have a group of talented and passionate employees who have helped make this success possible. This organization is in good hands. I am leaving with a lot of great memories from my tenure here and I know the organization will continue to thrive in the years to come.”

“Under Nolan’s leadership and guidance over the last six years, the Rangers organization has made enormous strides both on and off the field,” said Rangers Co-Chairmen Ray Davis and Bob Simpson. “Nolan has meant so much to this franchise and to our fans. We thank him for his many contributions, including his role in helping to develop one of the finest baseball operations staff in the game.

“Today we turn the page on what we believe is a very bright future for this organization. We wish Nolan all the best.”

[Spursfan092120]

It was coming. Him and Daniels fighting. We can't blame Nolan. I feel this is a situation where they were going to get rid of him, but let him save face because of everything he's done for the franchise.

[Biernutz]

Nolan didn't retire, he resigned. Jeff on today's Ticket 760 show said that Nolan made it
known that he didn't retire. I'm not surprised after that near fight a week ago......


http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/writer/danny-knobler/24097580/nolan-ryan-helped-the-rangers-by-coming-and-also-by-going

[Phillip]

Team will be better off, IMO.

[Biernutz]

Team will be better off, IMO.

Yeah ---they were doing ok before he got there

[Jacob1983]

Rangers will probably suck next year. Oh well, it was a good run. It would have been great if the Rangers could have won the World Series.

[Viva Las Espuelas]

I wonder when his Astros press conference will be......

[LakerHater]

Kinsler traded for Prince!!

[Spursfan092120]

Kinsler traded for Prince!!
I heard rumors...if official, that's amazing.

[Spursfan092120]

Yesssssss

http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/writer/jon-heyman/24250972/fielder-for-kinsler-bloickbuster-is-on-the-table

[Michael Jordan.]

That is a terrible contract

[Spursfan092120]

Yeah...it is...but we need the bat.

[BUMP]

whoa holy hsit

[Robz4000]

Wow. Really not sure how I feel about this...

[Phillip]

hate to lose kinsler, but this is probably a great trade. now we have an everyday 1B, and Profar will be an everyday player. Profar's ceiling > Kinsler

the team will be better off in the long run

[irishock]

There is a god.

[Flintstones32]

oh thank god. thank you texas. Prince is the worst damn playoff performer ive seen. good luck

[Flintstones32]

after tigers were bounced from the playoffs Fielder said.

"It's not really tough for me," Fielder said. "It's over. I've got kids I've got to take care of. I've got things I've got to take care of. For me, it's over, bro."


sorry but I would not want a teammate who didnt give a shit about losing. good riddance

[Spursfan092120]

Kinsler has been a staple for this team...but we need the bat...BAD...I think it was a good trade.

[irishock]

after tigers were bounced from the playoffs Fielder said.

"It's not really tough for me," Fielder said. "It's over. I've got kids I've got to take care of. I've got things I've got to take care of. For me, it's over, bro."


sorry but I would not want a teammate who didnt give a shit about losing. good riddance

Did you see the fucker laughing with Coco Crisp at first base, down 4-1 or something in game 4 of the ALDS?

[monosylab1k]

Going from that shitty ballpark in Detroit to The Temple will probably turn Prince back into a 40 homer guy tbh. We made a huge defensive improvement at 2B and got an actual 1B that doesn't lick balls. And Detroit is giving us $30 million. Massive win for the Rangers tbh.

[Biernutz]

Can Prince lug around that blubber in Texas heat. How much will that heat drain him?
he will be lucky to get 30 hr.

[Spursfan092120]

Going from that shitty ballpark in Detroit to The Temple will probably turn Prince back into a 40 homer guy tbh. We made a huge defensive improvement at 2B and got an actual 1B that doesn't lick balls. And Detroit is giving us $30 million. Massive win for the Rangers tbh.
:tu

[Robz4000]

oh thank god. thank you texas. Prince is the worst damn playoff performer ive seen. good luck


after tigers were bounced from the playoffs Fielder said.

"It's not really tough for me," Fielder said. "It's over. I've got kids I've got to take care of. I've got things I've got to take care of. For me, it's over, bro."


sorry but I would not want a teammate who didnt give a shit about losing. good riddance

Yeah, this is what worries me right here. Rangers did have a logjam at 2B/SS, but I thought Profar or Andrus would be traded first. Kinsler is a fan favorite and one of the few guys on the roster you can depend on for offense and, more importantly considering the state of the roster, a clutch hitter. Prince is not either of those.

However, if the Rangers have a few more moves planned to fix those issues then it's a good trade.

[ducks]

prince sucks in postseason

[Biernutz]

Prince gets $24 mil a year for the next 7 years.
Take that Luxury Tax.......................
http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb270/systime/Gifffs1234/20a7755de8e6.gif

[monosylab1k]

Kinsler is a fan favorite and one of the few guys on the roster you can depend on for offense and, more importantly considering the state of the roster, a clutch hitter.

Yes, but Kinsler is also a mental midget who makes idiotic baserunning decisions on a weekly basis and fucked Texas plenty of times in the postseason with mindless plays.

[Phillip]

Yes, but Kinsler is also a mental midget who makes idiotic baserunning decisions on a weekly basis and fucked Texas plenty of times in the postseason with mindless plays.

this, and im a huge kinsler fan

but his baserunning has always had some stupid moments, and this year it was extraordinarily bad

[Robz4000]

Yes, but Kinsler is also a mental midget who makes idiotic baserunning decisions on a weekly basis and fucked Texas plenty of times in the postseason with mindless plays.

He also bats .311 in the postseason and was the only real consistent hitter outside Cruz and Beltre on the roster this past season.

Did you forget game 6 of the ALCS this past season? Fielder lost them the game on shitty base running and after they lost the series proceeded to say he didn't give a shit. I'd rather have Kinsler and the faults he has than Fielder's choking fatass.

[JamStone]

It's a deal that could end up working for both sides. From the Tigers perspective, there are multiple layers behind the trade. It's not just about Fielder's poor post season resume or his long contract. Both have something to do with it, but not all. The Tigers are in a financial bind in the upcoming seasons because of all the big contracts out to Miggy, Verlander, and Fielder. This opens up the possibility of keeping Scherzer. Financially, it helps a lot even if the Tigers have to pay $30 million of Fielder's contract. Plus, it moves Cabrera back to 1st where he's above average and opens a spot for their best minor league prospect, Castellanos, to play 3rd (he did not impress in the outfield). So while people can talk about Fielder in the playoffs and his comments after they lost, there are several other reasons that helps it make sense.

The Rangers had the longjam in the middle infield and they could really, really use a lefty power bat in the middle of the line-up. I think the Rangers could have tried to make the Tigers take more of the contract, but the Rangers do solve multiple issues as well. And I agree that we should see Fielder go back to 35-40+ HRs moving to a home stadium like Arlington.

I'm serious when I say it could be one of those trades that helps both teams.


BTW, for those who want to know how the money will work, the Tigers pay $30 million of the remaining $168 and it gets applied to final 5 years of the deal.

So it breaks down like this:

2014: $24M (all Texas)
2015: $24M (all Texas)
2016: $18M (Texas), $6M (Detroit)
2017: $18M (Texas), $6M (Detroit)
2018: $18M (Texas), $6M (Detroit)
2019: $18M (Texas), $6M (Detroit)
2020: $18M (Texas), $6M (Detroit)

[Spursfan092120]

This opens up the possibility of keeping Scherzer.
This...I believe this is a major part of why this trade happened.

[BUMP]

maybe it's just me but i never really thought that highly of Kinsler like everybody else does. i won't miss those 'swing at the first pitch, pop up in the infield, sulk to first base' stretches he always goes through every season.

and i never saw that quote from Fielder. Det's pretty bad. Hopefully once he starts playing grab ass with Andrus and Beltre he'll start getting more comfortable with the team and shed that attitude

imho

[monosylab1k]

maybe it's just me but i never really thought that highly of Kinsler like everybody else does. i won't miss those 'swing at the first pitch, pop up in the infield, sulk to first base' stretches he always goes through every season.

this tbh

i don't know if he has low baseball IQ, or just loses focus all the damn time, but between the constant first pitch popouts and inexcusable baserunning errors, he really wasn't as valuable as people around here think. Great guy and a solid player, also underrated defensively (never a terrific fielder but he was alot better than the "butcher" reputation he had early on in his career), but overall I'm not terribly sad to see him go, especially considering what we're getting in return.

[Pelicans78]

That trade was a win for the Rangers and the rest of the AL Central.

[Michael Jordan.]

That trade was a win for the Rangers and the rest of the AL Central.

Wouldn't go that far.

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[Findog]

It's a risk but I like it for the Rangers. Swapping Kin's contract for Fielder, along with the money Detroit is sending, means the Rangers are on the books for $76 million more than they would be otherwise. That's a hell of a lot cheaper than giving Robinson Cano $275 million.

Fielder is only 29 and should bounce back due to:

1) Moving from Comerica Park, which is hell on lefties, to the Ballpark and its home-run porch should mean an increase in production is already built-in.

2) A big part of why he had a down year last year was that that they had a top prospect named Avisail Garcia that was porking Fielder's wife. Fielder found out about it, demanded they trade him (which the Tigers did), then divorced his wife. So I can understand how that sort of thing would affect a player's preparation and focus.

And you open up a spot for Profar at second base. He was a replacement-level player last year as a rookie and should only get better.

[irishock]

Look at the man's fucking postseason numbers. lol 162 game player

[Spursfan092120]

It's a risk but I like it for the Rangers. Swapping Kin's contract for Fielder, along with the money Detroit is sending, means the Rangers are on the books for $76 million more than they would be otherwise. That's a hell of a lot cheaper than giving Robinson Cano $275 million.

Fielder is only 29 and should bounce back due to:

1) Moving from Comerica Park, which is hell on lefties, to the Ballpark and its home-run porch should mean an increase in production is already built-in.

2) A big part of why he had a down year last year was that that they had a top prospect named Avisail Garcia that was porking Fielder's wife. Fielder found out about it, demanded they trade him (which the Tigers did), then divorced his wife. So I can understand how that sort of thing would affect a player's preparation and focus.

And you open up a spot for Profar at second base. He was a replacement-level player last year as a rookie and should only get better.
Honestly, I think they're going to go after Cano too though.

[BUMP]

So Cano plays first and Prince DH's

?

[Spursfan092120]

So Cano plays first and Prince DH's

?
I don't know...I just heard somewhere they were still interested in Cano...could be a rumor.

[Spursfan092120]

http://www.dallasnews.com/sports/texas-rangers/headlines/20131120-analyst-rangers-trade-for-prince-fielder-makes-them-more-likely-to-pursue-robinson-cano.ece

[Robz4000]

If the Rangers go after Cano they'll trade Profar or Andrus too tbh.

[Biernutz]

http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb270/systime/Gifffs1234/princesalad.gif

[exstatic]

http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb270/systime/Gifffs1234/princesalad.gif

:lol:rollin

[Bill_Brasky]

lol rangers traded kins for a fat cuck

[irishock]

2) A big part of why he had a down year last year was that that they had a top prospect named Avisail Garcia that was porking Fielder's wife. Fielder found out about it, demanded they trade him (which the Tigers did), then divorced his wife. So I can understand how that sort of thing would affect a player's preparation and focus.


Pretty sure Avisail Garcia wasn't fucking Chanel Fielder during the 2008, 2011, 2012 postseasons. The fatass is a mental midget, nuff said.

[irishock]

That trade was a win for the Rangers and the rest of the AL Central.

As if Fielder was effective against AL Central teams this year.

[Robz4000]

:lmao now the Rangers traded Gentry. Holy shit Daniels is fucking retarded.

[irishock]

Joe Nathan 2 years 20 mil :wow

[Chris]

Choice is a native of Arlington - who went to both school and university there. Obviously he's well scouted, but it seems like a lateral move considering Gentry has become a pretty good ball player. Plus I hate trading within the division, unless its with the Angels :lol

[Robz4000]

Joe Nathan is a more than solid closer. Not sure why the Rangers let him go.

[Robz4000]

Choice is a native of Arlington - who went to both school and university there. Obviously he's well scouted, but it seems like a lateral move considering Gentry has become a pretty good ball player. Plus I hate trading within the division, unless its with the Angels :lol

Gentry was one if the few players who didn't suck as the season started to wind down and began to show serious promise, then Daniels trades him for a marketing ploy. IMO he's valuing profit over competitiveness. Not that I can blame him; if I was in his shoes I'd do the same. As a fan though it sucks.

[Phillip]

AJ and Salty both off the market? Who are they planning to get as catcher? Please don't tell me they want to have Soto as the everyday starter...

[Chris]

Joe Nathan is a more than solid closer. Not sure why the Rangers let him go.

His asking price is pretty steep considering he's 39 years old and on the decline. I'm confident in Tanner Scheppers filling that gap at closer tbh

[Phillip]

Gentry was one if the few players who didn't suck as the season started to wind down and began to show serious promise, then Daniels trades him for a marketing ploy. IMO he's valuing profit over competitiveness. Not that I can blame him; if I was in his shoes I'd do the same. As a fan though it sucks.

I fully agree that Gentry was a solid player and highly underrated. He should have been starting over Murphy pretty much all year.

But Choice seems to have some solid upside, so we will just have to see. Generally, JD has been money on his decisions. Let's at least give it a chance.

[Phillip]

His asking price is pretty steep considering he's 39 years old and on the decline. I'm confident in Tanner Scheppers filling that gap at closer tbh

This. Plus either Ogando or Feliz will be back in the bullpen as well, so I'm not too concerned. And I expect Soria to have a really nice year.

[Robz4000]

I fully agree that Gentry was a solid player and highly underrated. He should have been starting over Murphy pretty much all year.

But Choice seems to have some solid upside, so we will just have to see. Generally, JD has been money on his decisions. Let's at least give it a chance.

His numbers were great in AAA, but so were Chris Davis'. I'd rather have the known commodity over the unknown. Haven't been happy with Daniels' decisions over the past few months so I expect this one to suck too.

[Phillip]

His numbers were great in AAA, but so were Chris Davis'. I'd rather have the known commodity over the unknown. Haven't been happy with Daniels' decisions over the past few months so I expect this one to suck too.
:rolleyes

[Robz4000]

:lol yeah, bad example. I still think the past couple trades have been regressive tho tbh. We'll just have to wait and see what else is in the works.

[McGusto55]

Yankees. .bitches....

[Viva Las Espuelas]

Joe Nathan is a more than solid closer. Not sure why the Rangers let him go.

He wasn't that great. I'm not bothered by him leaving. I felt worse when we let Uhara go. Man.........

[Robz4000]

He wasn't that great. I'm not bothered by him leaving. I felt worse when we let Uhara go. Man.........

Eh, Uehara was never gonna reach the levels he has with Boston by staying in Texas. Glad it worked out for him. Nathan ended up having nearly 40 saves and provided some consistency. It'll end up being a net gain if one of the younger guys steps up, but so far none of them have really shown they can.

[Viva Las Espuelas]

Eh, Uehara was never gonna reach the levels he has with Boston by staying in Texas. Sure he would've. Look at his second half of the season stats. That dude was steppin' up. We should've held on to him.

[Robz4000]

Sure he would've. Look at his second half of the season stats. That dude was steppin' up. We should've held on to him.

Not as a closer tbh. He'd of been a 7/8th inning set-up man here behind Nathan (and Feliz before he got hurt). Boston had a hole at the Closer position and he jumped for it. Didn't help that it was the Red Sox.

[Biernutz]

Texas GM Daniels Daniels called free agent Nelson Cruz to thank him for his time in Texas.
Daniels expects Cruz to sign elsewhere. Rangers co-chairman Bob Simpson also said that the
club is over budget and thus unlikely to get involved the Masahiro Tanaka bidding.

[Biernutz]

If you think that the Rangers are playing hard to get with Cruz, they gave his Uniform number
to Choo. See you Nelson................

[The Reckoning]

michael young retiring

[Robz4000]

Always liked Young. Thanks for sticking with the Rangers as long as you did :tu.

[Jacob1983]

He should have gotten a ring in 2011 and been a Ranger for life.

[Rogue]

Young is still rather young for a baseball player imho. thanks to him for his almost career-long service as a Ranger, a baseball version of Dirk Nowitzki for Dallas (albeit not nearly as brilliant)