Is Stephen Jackson..

[HarlemHeat37]

the worst rotation wing player on an NBA playoff team, tbh?..

Only Keith Bogans is as bad, off the top of my head..

[thispego]

I've seen improvement over the last few games

[Sausage]

No, that's still RJ

[HarlemHeat37]

RJ barely plays IIRC..he averages half as many minutes as Jackson, he's not a rotation player..

[hater]

he's hurt now

[AFBlue]

I actually think he's just now awakening from his hibernation. Give him a few more games to round into shape and turn that activity into production.

[BackHome]

I have only seen him play one good game most of the issues has to do with terrible passes and just not being a threat on offense.

[DesignatedT]

Be careful. He'll burn you in the playoffs.

Horry was awful at times during the regular season as well.

[cd021]

I have only seen him play one good game most of the issues has to do with terrible passes and just not being a threat on offense.

His passing is good, ambitious at times, but good. Most of his T.O's are from strips when driving. I like that he isn't forcing things offensively. He is getting burn to play defense and whatever offense he can provide is fine.

[BatManu20]

SJAX just needs to do his thing in the playoffs. I don't care how poor he plays right now, as long as he brings it when it matters, like Manu did last year.

[Darius McCrary]

Tbh tbh? Tbh tbh tbh. Tbh. Tbh.....tbh tbh tbh. Tbh. Tbh! Tbh tbhh tbh tbh T-B-H!

Tbh.

(No. Non-heat Spurs fans know the Horry treatment.)

[spurraider21]

He had actually been doing well last few games and in the first half today. Still plays defense at a high level, and he's been attacking the rim much better as of late

[TheGoldStandard]

He's not 100%, lingering injuries but he'll be ready come playoffs.

[HarlemHeat37]

He had actually been doing well last few games and in the first half today. Still plays defense at a high level, and he's been attacking the rim much better as of late

He was 1-9 from the field tonight..

[letmk]

Be careful. He'll burn you in the playoffs.

Horry was awful at times during the regular season as well.

Obviously Horry is not at HOF caliber. But look at his resume, comparing Jack to him is a little disrespectful to Horry. And saying Jack is sort of coasting for regular season is actually disrespectful to him as well.

[Spursfanfromafar]

The only thing going for Jackson is merely reputation now.

[TD 21]

Fisher (he plays backup SG for them) and Draymond Green are other candidates. But yeah, he's right up there.

Don't tell Spurs fans though. They still think he can play, because he had one hot series in the previous playoffs and because he hit a bunch of big shots (while still shooting a low percentage overall) in the playoffs ten years ago.

[HarlemHeat37]

Jackson wasn't good during last year's regular season, but he was noticeably better than he has been this year, tbh..

The majority of Spurs fans predicted Horry was coasting in 2008 and that he would play a factor in the more meaningful games, but he subsequently had an atrocious playoff performance that year, tbh, one of the worst I've ever seen from a Spurs player..

[superjames1992]

Aside from last year, SJAX has not been an impressive performer in the Playoffs, tbh.

Career postseason stats:

PPG: 13.9
FG: 40.4%
3PT: 35.5%
FT: 81.6%
REB: 3.7
AST: 2.7

Every single one of those stats aside from 3PT and FT% are higher in the regular season than the post-season. Sorry, guys, but I'm looking for Horry and not seeing him, tbh. Hope I'm wrong.

[freetiago]

318 out of 339 players in PER
his past 2 games moved him out of the bottom 10 tbh

[chapnis]

Aside from last year, SJAX has not been an impressive performer in the Playoffs, tbh.

Apart from the time he carried an 8th seed to upset the first seed perhaps?

[Darius McCrary]

Aside from last year, SJAX has not been an impressive performer in the Playoffs, tbh.

Career postseason stats:

PPG: 13.9
FG: 40.4%
3PT: 35.5%
FT: 81.6%
REB: 3.7
AST: 2.7

Every single one of those stats aside from 3PT and FT% are higher in the regular season than the post-season. Sorry, guys, but I'm looking for Horry and not seeing him, tbh. Hope I'm wrong.

Another gnsf that didn't see last year's playoffs, tbh.... (tbh tbh)

[HarlemHeat37]

318 out of 339 players in PER
his past 2 games moved him out of the bottom 10 tbh

His numbers will regress after tonight's game..

[crc21209]

Meh, not worried about him come playoff time. His toughness and D will come in handy. He's a good playmaker and always looks for the bigs under the basket as well. That is a lost art in today's guard happy NBA game...

[Darius McCrary]

Stephen Jackson's career as it pertains to this effing forum should be solely based on the 2003 playoffs and the 2012 playoffs. Count that one game in 03 season when he nailed 7 three's against the Lakers in the regular season.

Even I'll admit he sucked in the clippers series last year, but I have the matchup excuse for that one. Until he sucks total crap in the playoffs, he has a good Spurs track record. Any other talk is gnsf or heat fan drivel.

[maverick1948]

Another gnsf that didn't see last year's playoffs, tbh.... (tbh tbh)

Bonner gets minutes Spurs 10-1/Jax getting minutes 0-3. That is something that cant be denied.

[freetiago]

almost every playoff team will be a mismatch for him
Clippers and Denver in the 2nd round will be again
Memphis he played well but he didnt D Prince that good
he lets Kobe get under his skin which wont be good for the first round
or Houston which is too fast paced for him
he plays Durant physically but hes also foul prone vs him

[spurraider21]

PER only counts defensive stats like steals and blocks. Jackson's defense is whats keeping him in the rotation

[ElNono]

Jax will be fine... if he turns into '08 Horry, so be it... but after last season's WCF performance, he earned the benefit of the doubt, tbh

[Brazil]

But but I thought 2003 jax was back

[crc21209]

2013 Jack >>>>>> Any year HWSNBN tbh....

[MaNu4Tres]

Harlem and TD21 win in this thread. Jackson is done.

I'm sure he has a few playoff 3 point conversions left, but that is going to come with overall inefficient and poor play.

[jestersmash]

If nothing else, RJ gave us a consistent 42 (and ultimately 44%) from three during his last 2 seasons. His defense on larger SFs was subpar. His playmaking and passing were comparable to what Stephen Jackson has provided this year.

Sure, RJ can't compare with nebulous intangibles like "grit" and "toughness," but it all boils down to whether or not Stephen Jackson's superior man-to-man defense on larger SFs is sufficient to compensate for his relatively poor offensive output. My eye test says no, but I don't know.

I think they're both (R.J. and SJax) pretty poor contributors overall, with the exception of SJax's performance during last year's WCF.

Stephen Jackson's best game in quite a while was against Memphis a couple of nights ago where he had a couple of assists/rebounds in the first half and knocked down a couple of shots in the second. This is atypical, though. He's averaging 1.4 APG this year and is not nearly the superior "playmaker" (compared to RJ) that some make him out to be.

[ElNono]

He's a free agent this summer... might as well enjoy him while he's still around...

[Thread]

...afterall he did quit on his former team so he could play for you. That's worth something.

[hater]

Jax was brought for playoffs and playoffs alone. :lol grading him on regular season performance

[Thread]

Jax was brought for playoffs and playoffs alone. :lol grading him on regular season performance

Exactly. He quit on his former team. That's nice for you.

You've got a rapist, a quitter and a Palace brawler. Hell, we both do.

[Poolboy5623]

I think too many here are counting their eggs before they hatch w/ jax playoffs( this year)...I know he's had some clutch performances, but that was the jack of old...now this jack is just... .. old!! He's having a hard time out there and a lot of his shots, driving to the hoop, have no business going in...will be interesting ..I hope he has one last ride in him.

[hater]

I never said he's not done. I said before giving the final grade I need to see his playoff performance. I also hope he got 1 last in him

[100%duncan]

So much hate that people don't give a shit about what you say about Jax imo.

[Hoops Czar]

He's a free agent this summer... might as well enjoy him while he's still around...


He'll be resigned for cheap unless he decides to hang it up. That's how the Spurs organization operates.

[Hoops Czar]

Jax was brought for playoffs and playoffs alone. :lol grading him on regular season performance

Then why not freeze him and just thaw him out when the playoffs arrive. Why let him continue to embarrass himself on a nightly basis?

[Brazil]

this thread is a prime example of the ton of respect Harlem gets :tu

take another ST dude creating this same thread he would have received a couple of posts with "retard, :lmao, :lol, not sure if serious, 1/10 etc..." instead we have a civilized conversation

[superjames1992]

Another gnsf that didn't see last year's playoffs, tbh.... (tbh tbh)
Please read my post and you'll see I said "aside from last year..."


Apart from the time he carried an 8th seed to upset the first seed perhaps?
Eh, even in the 2006-2007 playoffs, despite scoring nearly 20 PPG, he only shot 38% from the floor. It's not as if he was tearing it up for the Warriors.

[urunobili]

he's hurt now
translates into = "It's Manu's fault" :rolleyes

[EricB]

You guys are just making shit up to be trolls now right?

[Pop]

More reliable than a Danny Green imo who is guaranteed to leave 4pts per game in layups on the table and who will go cold for a while at some point.

[Pop]

Actually I always said that De Colo should play SG in a Manu like role and both Green and Sjax should be in competition for backup SF.

[Boomersgold]

More reliable than a Danny Green imo who is guaranteed to leave 4pts per game in layups on the table and who will go cold for a while at some point.

More reliable than Danny Green? I think not. Stephen Jackson's the only player that Pop seems to give a lifeline to, even after a string of games where Jacks is non-existent on the court. Why do we keep using the "He'll turn it around come playoff time" excuse for when Jackson plays poorly. If he's gonna' play well in the playoffs only, then sit him until playoff time.

[elemento]

Jack is still living on the reputation of a guy that delivers in the playoffs, especially here in ST.

Let's see if he really improves his game when it matters, because he has been absolutely atrocious this season. If he doesn't play well in the playoffs this season, he will struggle to make a team for the min next season.

[Tiago Splitter]

Stephen Jackson's career as it pertains to this effing forum should be solely based on the 2003 playoffs and the 2012 playoffs. Count that one game in 03 season when he nailed 7 three's against the Lakers in the regular season.

Even I'll admit he sucked in the clippers series last year, but I have the matchup excuse for that one. Until he sucks total crap in the playoffs, he has a good Spurs track record. Any other talk is gnsf or heat fan drivel.

You seem to lack reading comprehension, the OP is referring to current level of play not his career. Try not to be so stupid next time. Thanks!

[Chinook]

More reliable than a Danny Green imo who is guaranteed to leave 4pts per game in layups on the table and who will go cold for a while at some point.

I'll give you this: You did not wait until after Green had a bad game to say this. I can respect your opinion more than some others, because it's never really made in the heat of the moment.