The Jazz have shot 81 less FTs than their opponents over the last 10 games.

[midnightpulp]

Discuss.

[Thebesteva]

Since I am your alternative troll account I will comment. I agree with you Midnightpulp, you are quite possibly the greatest poster of all time here in Spurstalk tbh

[ElNono]

It should go back to normal once they lock up the 8th seed... Probably won't be an issue going into the playoffs...

[InRareForm]

they won tonight..

moot

[racm]

7-3 in their past 10, too.

This team is playing in spite of the officiating, unlike... the Spurs :lol

[AussieFanKurt]

love the WWE

[UZER]

Lakers have shot 105 more free throws than their opponent in the last ten games, and have shot more in each and every game.

Some of the bigger differences:

33-12
39-22
36-19
28-8

Not sure how much is attributed to intentional fouls on Howard though.

[Latarian Milton]

stats speak loudest tbh. utah play predominantly through the paint & low-post, naturally such teams are supposed to garner more freebies than jump shooting teams or even teams who play balanced games tbh.

[jestersmash]

7-3 in their past 10, too.

This team is playing in spite of the officiating, unlike... the Spurs :lol

I actually found the last Spurs/OKC game to be really interesting. The Spurs were playing so poorly that the refs actually gave us a significant FT advantage over OKC just to keep us in the game, IMO.

Had that been a close game where both teams were at full power and playing well, the FT differential probably would've looked quite different.

Especially down the fourth, I saw like 3 plays in a row where OKC was legitimately fouled and the refs didn't call anything, presumably to keep the game close and interesting.

[Splits]

I actually found the last Spurs/OKC game to be really interesting. The Spurs were playing so poorly that the refs actually gave us a significant FT advantage over OKC just to keep us in the game, IMO.

Had that been a close game where both teams were at full power and playing well, the FT differential probably would've looked quite different.

Especially down the fourth, I saw like 3 plays in a row where OKC was legitimately fouled and the refs didn't call anything, presumably to keep the game close and interesting.

Pretty good/well analysis.

[midnightpulp]

I actually found the last Spurs/OKC game to be really interesting. The Spurs were playing so poorly that the refs actually gave us a significant FT advantage over OKC just to keep us in the game, IMO.

Had that been a close game where both teams were at full power and playing well, the FT differential probably would've looked quite different.

Especially down the fourth, I saw like 3 plays in a row where OKC was legitimately fouled and the refs didn't call anything, presumably to keep the game close and interesting.

Also to keep us in the number one seed because the league knows the Spurs are a much better matchup for the Lakers than the Thunder. Hell, the Thunder only shot one more FT at home than the Knicks today.

[Floyd Pacquiao]

NBEA tbh

[King Emmanuel]

NBEA tbh

https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSwyC1ruaKJ_bzLL6x5DxbMe4NYpSwLv _qgPHO4BE-cXSzoQgQ2Lw tbh

[noob cake]

Welcome to the 8th seed.

When Rockets were the 8th, we got royally screwed in just about every game. There were several threads about it here.

[AaronY]

It doesn't help that Al Jefferson is their go to scorer and he avoids the stripe like Biedrins. 6'10 280 lb post beast going to the line 2-3 times a game on average

[Bynumite]

Again we go back to the same old topic, OP and half this forum obviously suffer from brain damage, they continue to watch something they think is rigged and then get all emotional when the NBA follows what spurfans think is the script.

For example, there's no other player in the NBA getting intentionally fouled to the extent that Dwight is, so why do you insist on pointing out the FT disparity between the Lakers and other teams?


Welcome to the 8th seed.

When Rockets were the 8th, we got royally screwed in just about every game. There were several threads about it here.

Are you seriously complaining about the way the refs treated the Rockets when you have Bin Harden on your team? Fuck outta here with that weak shit man.

[Chris]

In before the "blaming the officiating is for p's & a's"

[irishock]

blaming the officiating is for

I'm a trend setter.

I shut down when I'm being scavenger hunted.

[Danny.Zhu]

Add in the Lakers' ft numbers lately and you will have a more complete picture.

[midnightpulp]

Again we go back to the same old topic, OP and half this forum obviously suffer from brain damage, they continue to watch something they think is rigged and then get all emotional when the NBA follows what spurfans think is the script.

For example, there's no other player in the NBA getting intentionally fouled to the extent that Dwight is, so why do you insist on pointing out the FT disparity between the Lakers and other teams?

Are you seriously complaining about the way the refs treated the Rockets when you have Bin Harden on your team? Fuck outta here with that weak shit man.


The NBA isn't blatantly rigged, like professional wrestling for instance, but you'd have to be brain damaged yourself to think that the Lakers don't enjoy a good amount favorable officiating. Sometimes it's enough to turn a game in their favor. Sometimes not. So there's always a reason to watch, because it's fun watching teams overcome that obstacle and beat down Stern's pet franchise, like today.

[noob cake]

Again we go back to the same old topic, OP and half this forum obviously suffer from brain damage, they continue to watch something they think is rigged and then get all emotional when the NBA follows what spurfans think is the script.

For example, there's no other player in the NBA getting intentionally fouled to the extent that Dwight is, so why do you insist on pointing out the FT disparity between the Lakers and other teams?



Are you seriously complaining about the way the refs treated the Rockets when you have Bin Harden on your team? Fuck outta here with that weak shit man.

Not my fault that NBA defenders hack Harden on every drive. The dude HOLDS THE BALL IN FRONT OF HIM WITH ARM STRETCHED OUT. Who else does that in the NBA? NO ONE! All players protect the ball. Harden invites you to hack him.

[Fabbs]

Nice work mid.

Now with the Golden State attempted riggaroo
18 - 7

92 over 11 games. :lol

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

I actually looked cause a lot of the time people complain about this when a team simply doesn't get to the line much. Prior to this 11 game stretch they basically averaged the same amount of free throws as their opponent (shot 19 more so they averaged a .3 FT advantage per game if my math is right), so an 11 game stretch where they average over an 8 free throw disadvantage would be a pretty big anomaly. This might actually be an instance where using FT differential to judge officiating makes sense, most of the time it's not though.

[jag]

I actually looked cause a lot of the time people complain about this when a team simply doesn't get to the line much. Prior to this 11 game stretch they basically averaged the same amount of free throws as their opponent (shot 19 more so they averaged a .3 FT advantage per game if my math is right), so an 11 game stretch where they average over an 8 free throw disadvantage would be a pretty big anomaly. This might actually be an instance where using FT differential to judge officiating makes sense, most of the time it's not though.

You and your advanced stats. Get outa here with all that crazy mumbo jumbo.

[racm]

I don't think FT differential fully captures officiating bias.

You also have to look at 3 second calls, offensive fouls of all sorts (illegal screens and charges drawn), and how quickly the other team got into the bonus.

[spurs_fan_in_exile]

I don't think FT differential fully captures officiating bias.

You also have to look at 3 second calls, offensive fouls of all sorts (illegal screens and charges drawn), and how quickly the other team got into the bonus.

And who gets them. Two quick ticky tack fouls on a team's leading scorer can knock a team out of rhythm from the start and put them in a hole they never really bounce back from.

FWIW I'm surprised their season FT differential isn't much bigger because of two built in factors. Fouling is a dirty word in D'Antoni's SSOL world. Slows the game down. Probably not as much as the TOSB Mamba playing 53 minutes a night, but still. Then you have the Hack-a-Howard issue, where you'd expect even the least foul prone teams to go over their average numbers unless he's having one of those nights where he's looking like Dirk from the line.

[Girasuck]

6 of the 10 games were at home. So much for that home court advantage we claim to have. Oh well, I guess we'll just deflate the balls a little more.

[noob cake]

I can't believe I'm cheering for the Jizz over the Lakers.

[irishock]

Someone post this to RealGM. My account got banned for trolling

[noob cake]

http://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=1243868

[whitemamba]

lakers are the worst free throw shooting team in the league, and half of the freethrows are dwights anyway, where he doesnt even make half of them, so sterns "plan" isnt working anyway, OP needs to get the fuck over it

[Jacob1983]

Damn Mormons. Gotta go to the basket.

[Latarian Milton]

^ irony is a mavs fan said that tbh :rolleyes:

[Danny.Zhu]

Just saw BSPN's Playoff promo. You can see Kobe/Howard but not a single Jazz.

[racm]

Just saw BSPN's Playoff promo. You can see Kobe/Howard but not a single Jazz.

Does the average casual think about Al Jefferson anyway?

I doubt they could name a SINGLE current Jazz player.

[Jacob1983]

Casual NBA fans suck. Case closed.