ESPN NBA players rank 2013. Tim Duncan #10

[hater]

:tu a 36 year old who was #27 last year :wow :wow

http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2013/0408/nba_u_duncan77_cr_576.jpg

According to this even ESPN admits Duncan is the top bigman in the game?? ahead of the likes of Griffin, Dwight, Gasol, Chandler, etc.

Is there another bigman they can put ahead of him?

here's my guess for the rest:
9 - Lilard??
8 - Wade
7 - Harden
6 - Parker
5 - Westbrook
4 - CP3
3 - Kobe
2 - Durant
1 - Lebron

[hater]

this brings a good point. Could Tim Duncan get MIP???

[letmk]

Other than LeBron and Durant, I would not trade Tim with anybody else. (Not saying I would trade Tim for LeBron.)

[SanDiegoSpursFan]

All perimeter players in the top 10 :(

Melo is gonna be in there instead of Lillard imo

[sananspursfan21]

Damien Lillard?!!! Rooks pretty good but c'mon!!!

Congrats to not only Timmy but to TP and the Spurs organization for having two players being recognized by ESPN in the top 10... Wow!!! Idk how long they've been doing the player rankings but that couldn't have happened atleast since the twin tower days. I'm one proud fan right now

[hater]

LOL forgot about Melo

so yeah TD = best bigman in the game

[BatManu20]

Should be top 5.

[SpursFanaticInVegas]

Should be top 5.

he should be a shoe in for 1st Team All NBA and DPOY

[polandprzem]

James
Durant
Parker
Duncan

[Seventyniner]

This means they think Duncan will be All-NBA first team, unless they do some stupid shit and have three "frontcourt" spots instead of two forwards and a center, allowing them to put LeBron, Durant, and Carmelo in the frountcourt.

[johnpaulwall21]

the espn experts were picking marc Gasol in that fifth slot

[dbreiden83080]

Stephen A Smith called Howard the best big man in the game by far the other day.

This clown loves to kiss the asses of those that grant him interviews. He probably doesn't even watch the NBA anymore..

[Kuestmaster]

Kobe shouldn't be higher than 6. And Parker when healthy is top3. top5 at least. Before the injury he was in the mvp running ahead of Durant.

[spurraider21]

if this reflects the opinions of all-nba/all-defensive voters it seems Timmy has a legit chance to pick up a lot of hardware this year

[spurraider21]

Kobe shouldn't be higher than 6. And Parker when healthy is top3. top5 at least. Before the injury he was in the mvp running ahead of Durant.

you're just a hater. This is clearly one of Kobe's greatest seasons ever. Single handedly carrying his team with no help, defense be damned

[Solid D]

Tim Duncan 2012-13 REGULAR SEASON

Ranks #3 in the NBA in Blocks Per Game (2.66)
Ranks #9 in the NBA in Defensive Rebounds (534)
Ranks #4 in the NBA in Defensive Rebounds Per Game (8.2)
Ranks #4 in the NBA in Blocks (173)
Ranks #11 in the NBA in Double-doubles (34)
Ranks #7 in the NBA in Field Goals Per 48 Minutes (11.29)
Ranks #11 in the NBA in Field-Goal Attempts Per 48 Minutes (22.36)
Ranks #3 in the NBA in Defensive Rebounds Per 48 Minutes (13.1)
Ranks #8 in the NBA in Rebounds Per 48 Minutes (16)
Ranks #5 in the NBA in Blocks Per 48 Minutes (4.25)
Ranks #10 in the NBA in Points Per 48 Minutes (28.3)
Ranks #12 in the NBA in Total Efficiency Points (1558)
Ranks #5 in the NBA in Efficiency Ranking (23.97)
Ranks #2 in the NBA in Efficiency Ranking Per 48 Minutes (38.24)

Field-Goal Percentage (0.505)
Free-Throw Percentage (0.813) ranks 46th :wow

[DesignatedT]

DPOY or bust.

[Kidd K]

lmao @ Lillard being above Duncan.

The other 8 are acceptably above, though I would rather have Duncan than Westbrook and possibly Chris Paul right now. But I can understand why they are up there.

Surprised Melo is not on the list though, and that they didn't put Blake in there instead of Timmy just because.

[hater]

Parker #7. damn can't believe they put Wade ahead of him tbh

[TD 21]

Not high enough (or, depending on how you look at it, low enough). There's no credible argument for nine players being better than him this season.

Anthony is nine and Harden is eight. I suspect the order of the top seven from seven-one will be: Parker, Westbrook, Wade, Bryant, Paul, Durant, James.

:lol At Gasol being ranked 14th. The most overrated player in the game by far at the moment (Lowe, Simmons and Kerr, among others, have proclaimed him the "best all around center" :lmao and said he should be All-NBA 1st team). If he were "black", they'd notice that despite being a behemoth, he's a terrible rebounder and passive offensive player (he should be an elite low post scorer). But he's white, so he get's a pass for that and instead get's lauded for his basketball IQ.

[Cry Havoc]

Harden over Melo is a head scratcher. Refsbrook over Melo, Duncan, Harden, AND Parker is absolutely fucking insane.

[SanDiegoSpursFan]

If you realize that people similar to and including Chris Palmer are doing the voting, then you'll know why the rankings are garbage. Brook Lopez being that low is a joke.

[in2deep]

damn, pretty pathetic of the NBA that the best bigman is 36 years old

I blame Stern. His changing of the game not only alienates bigmen and stunts their development, but the faster pace probably increases bigmen injury rate.

Just look at Blake Griffin, his development literally stopped at year 2. Dude is a soft piece of shit, no post game, no paint dominance. Look at Dwight.

this is not NBA anymore, more like midgetball league

[Cry Havoc]

damn, pretty pathetic of the NBA that the best bigman is 36 years old

I blame Stern. His changing of the game not only alienates bigmen and stunts their development, but the faster pace probably increases bigmen injury rate.

Just look at Blake Griffin, his development literally stopped at year 2. Dude is a soft piece of shit, no post game, no paint dominance. Look at Dwight.

this is not NBA anymore, more like midgetball league

What? Griffin's game has improved a LOT this year. His jumper isn't there yet, but he's improved a ton as a player.

[letmk]

Year after year, they said Tim is done and this or that guy is better than Tim. But their PER is worse than Tim (let alone the defense part), and their team record is much worse than the Spurs', but only because they are young, flashy and scoring more points, they are better than Tim.

What's the logic behind all those?

[SpursRock20]

https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/625409_10201025836268547_223451244_n.jpg This is one of the featured tweets on Tim Duncan's ranking. This shows you all you need to know about ESPN's lack of credibility.

[cheguevara]

TD getting some love.

In any other year he doesn't sniff 15

[Tuddy]

Noah & Chandler are the only 2 players in the top 60 who can't put the ball in the hoop without being setup - a pretty fundamental part of basketball.

[TheGoldStandard]

Tim never relied on pure athleticism, speed or a huge vertical to dominate the way he does. He's always had the footwork and the brains in order to outwork his opponent on the boards and to take smart shots. Unless his brain shuts down all of a sudden he'll still be able to perform at least to a high percentage of what his old stats were and so long as he can remain healthy.

[phxspurfan]

lol @ Dunks getting too much respect. Dude is the only big left in the NBA that isn't/was never on roids and can still post a 30/20/5/5 night

[LarryDavid]

* double post *

[LarryDavid]

Pulled up some stats...the following are Per 36 minutes and PER for 3 MVPs and Tim Duncan's 2013 season.



FG% - .507
FG % .513
FG% - .574
FG% - .499


TRB - 12
TRB - 11.8
TRB - 12.3
TRB - 12.7


Blk - 3.2
BLK - 2.7
BLK - 2.7
BLK - 2.0


AST - 3.2
AST - 3.6
AST - 3.4
AST - 4.6


PTS - 21.2
PTS - 21.3
PTS - 26.7
PTS - 22.1


PER - 24.7
PER - 26.9
PER - 30.6
PER - 29.4




The first column is TD's 2013 season, 2nd column is his 2003 MVP season, 3rd is Shaq's 2000 MVP season, and 4th is KG's 2004 MVP season.

I think it speaks volumes for what kind of season TD is having. Enjoy it while it lasts.

[LarryDavid]

this brings a good point. Could Tim Duncan get MIP???

I think James Harden is a lock for that award.

[z0sa]

Please give Timmy DPOY, fuckers.

[SpursRock20]

I think James Harden is a lock for that award.

I see where you are coming from but I think that James Harden was already on the rise last year. Duncan, on the other hand, looked like he was running in mush several times last year and seemed to be on a downward trend. The fact is that James Harden now has the keys to his own team, which allows him to be used a lot more than he ever was in OKC so I don't think he has necessarily improved too much. But there are a few facets of Duncan's game that absolutely improved. Duncan's jump shot looks better than it ever has, his free throw consistency is that of a very good guard's free throw percentage, and he is running the floor so much better than last year. This improvement in agility has allowed him to have a notable increase in blocks and dunks this year, too. All of this being said, I believe Duncan deserves the Most Improved Player award ahead of Harden, imo.

[Spur|n|Austin]

damn, pretty pathetic of the NBA that the best bigman is 36 years old

I blame Stern. His changing of the game not only alienates bigmen and stunts their development, but the faster pace probably increases bigmen injury rate.

Just look at Blake Griffin, his development literally stopped at year 2. Dude is a soft piece of shit, no post game, no paint dominance. Look at Dwight.

this is not NBA anymore, more like midgetball league


Uhhh.. You're saying it's pathetic that TD is the best big man in the NBA? You lost me a bit there, but when you said Blake Griffin stopped developing because of Stern, I stopped reading. And the "midgetball" you speak of? Do you mean sort of like your avatar picture?

[bdictjames]

Greivis Vasquez will win the MIP award. No way a 2-time MVP and a 3-time Finals MVP will win a MIP award. It is almost absurd.

[letmk]

I see where you are coming from but I think that James Harden was already on the rise last year. Duncan, on the other hand, looked like he was running in mush several times last year and seemed to be on a downward trend. The fact is that James Harden now has the keys to his own team, which allows him to be used a lot more than he ever was in OKC so I don't think he has necessarily improved too much. But there are a few facets of Duncan's game that absolutely improved. Duncan's jump shot looks better than it ever has, his free throw consistency is that of a very good guard's free throw percentage, and he is running the floor so much better than last year. This improvement in agility has allowed him to have a notable increase in blocks and dunks this year, too. All of this being said, I believe Duncan deserves the Most Improved Player award ahead of Harden, imo.

No, having 5 MVPs never makes one available as a MIP candidate. If NBA has comeback player of the year, Tim might be a strong candidate for that award.

[spurraider21]

No, having 5 MVPs never makes one available as a MIP candidate. If NBA has comeback player of the year, Tim might be a strong candidate for that award.

They'd probably give that to Duwight coming off back surgery. Or Vino for his renaissance season :lol