WTF is Happening: SJAX Waived...

[szkorhetz]

the new Spurs savior

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hes been in the system and dominated our first round matchup
He is traded from Austin..

[Kori Ellis]

:pctoss

I guess I'll give the Spurs the benefit of the doubt and assume there was a good reason and a major incident or something. I can't believe it's just because he has struggled basketball-wise. It's been a hard year for Jack personally, and he's always been a huge favorite of mine. I was hoping he'd hit just one big shot in the playoffs, even though he's been struggling so much on the court.

[szkorhetz]

(https://twitter.com/ESPNSteinLine)

[DPG21920]

Calm down, Kori. You are scaring the kids.

[baseline bum]

So can we finally see Sanikidze in a Spurs uniform? Or we could bring back Bryan Bracey!

[Robz4000]

We aren't making it out of the first round...at least this time we will be a 2 seed and not be as embarrassed.

Yeah fuck that, I'll be even more embarrassed. The 2011 Grizz were not a true 8th seed and were a horrible matchup for the Spurs. That team also never really felt like a contender. This season the Spurs had one team they had to get through to reach the Finals (though the Heat would've beat them in 6) whilet he rest of the West was pretty weak. This potential collapse would be much worse.

[tony77]

ksat's facebook posted the news, and in the comments, someone wrote "Pop asked, Jackson if, he thought if, he was better than Manu & Danny Green? He said, "hell yeah" Pop told him, "that's your problem, you don't know your role". Then they got into a heated argument." that person was asked how they knew this, and she wrote that her son was at the barbershop, and overheard Jackson say that. ...........take it for what it's worth

[mikec]

:bang

[Pop]

ksat's facebook posted the news, and in the comments, someone wrote "Pop asked, Jackson if, he thought if, he was better than Manu & Danny Green? He said, "hell yeah" Pop told him, "that's your problem, you don't know your role". Then they got into a heated argument." that person was asked how they knew this, and she wrote that her son was at the barbershop, and overheard Jackson say that. ...........take it for what it's worth

In the POs, he's 100 times more valuable than Green, Pop is stupid.

[timtonymanu]

ksat's facebook posted the news, and in the comments, someone wrote "Pop asked, Jackson if, he thought if, he was better than Manu & Danny Green? He said, "hell yeah" Pop told him, "that's your problem, you don't know your role". Then they got into a heated argument." that person was asked how they knew this, and she wrote that her son was at the barbershop, and overheard Jackson say that. ...........take it for what it's worth

:Wow

Jack's problem this year was his play. Never would have thought he would have that kind of attitude, especially for an organization that clearly respected him.

[szkorhetz]

Jax Twitter: http://instagram.com/p/YBXlUPxf1h/#

[DPG21920]

In the POs, he's 100 times more valuable than Green, Pop is stupid.

Say what?

[DesignatedT]

In the POs, he's 100 times more valuable than Green, Pop is stupid.

Yeah, like that story actually fucking happened.

[Robz4000]

Tbh fuck Pop and his "know your role" bullshit. It's pretty damn tiring. Having high character guys is cool and all but when you have the mentality of a role player you tend to shy away when it matters to the big dogs. Problem is this team's big dogs are old/busted/a PG. Not that Jack said the right thing, mind you, as he's clearly not playing well.

[TD 21]

Not available and I doubt Spurs have the time to do something complicate like buying out an overseas player.

The last day to sign a player is Wednesday.

Alright. Well, cross him off the list.

Could Singleton be the guy? He was reportedly signing with the Knicks as of yesterday, but I don't think it was made official and now today I see they've signed Jones. The player rumored to be waived in both cases is Thomas and Singleton still isn't listed on their official roster, so I'm wondering if the Spurs jumped in at the last moment and snagged him, offering a greater opportunity for minutes.

[HarlemHeat37]

Advanced stat guy isn't able to comprehend the possibility of (1) Stephen Jackson getting hot in the postseason and knocking down big shots or (2) Stephen Jackson having a big impact on the defensive end.

He defended Durant better than Kawhi during the WCF last year.

Again, if the Spurs make it to the WCFs, we can worry about that then..Jackson hurts more than he helps in the first few rounds IMO..

Jackson matches up horribly against Denver in the 2nd round, he couldn't even dribble the ball against their athletes this season, tbh..

I believe last year was Jackson's final "turning it on" run, which is expected at his age..everybody here was banking on Horry in 2008 turning it around after an atrocious regular season, but his subsequent playoffs was even worse..

[Spur|n|Austin]

Maybe Jax was the one that broke into Pop's home.

:lol

[timtonymanu]

Tbh fuck Pop and his "know your role" bullshit. It's pretty damn tiring. Having high character guys is cool and all but when you have the mentality of a role player you tend to shy away when it matters to the big dogs. Problem is this team's big dogs are old/busted/a PG.

Saying you are better than Manu though? Manu has done a lot for this franchise. It's kind of a slap in the face for Jack to say that about someone like Manu. Yeah, yeah Manu's been hurt most of the year but it's not like Jack was filling in his role.

[Spurs Brazil]

Terrible news.

Jax was a good you could trust in the playoffs. I'd rather have Jax on the court then Blair, Bonner, Green and Neal. Jax was also a great option to play small against Thunder.

Incredible on how our chances to go to the finals dropped in 3 weeks with all the injures and now this.

It really SUCKS :(

[Biernutz]

Jack was upset because he didn't get a contract extension from the spurs and he was also upset with his playing time.... He got into arguments with Pop about it and we all know Jack ....you only rent him for awhile before BOOM!!!!

[rmt]

Regardless of how poor SJax's season has been, he is NEEDED for defense on KD (if they get there). Spurs don't really need his offense but he's the only wing other than Kwahi with size. Leonard can't play 48 minutes with tendonitis in his knee and what happens if he gets in foul trouble?

[siraulo23]

Damn. Jax must've robbed Pops house.....

:lol

[TheGoldStandard]

He should have shanked Neal on his way out.

[DesignatedT]

Is Chris Douglas Roberts available? Haven't been keeping up much with his career..

[Robz4000]

Saying you are better than Manu though? Manu has done a lot for this franchise. It's kind of a slap in the face for Jack to say that about someone like Manu. Yeah, yeah Manu's been hurt most of the year but it's not like Jack was filling in his role.

Yeah, Jack wasn't in the right either. Still, we need role players stepping up, not being told they're nothing more than spare parts.

[maurolv]

http://youtu.be/UET-3SZbnkk

[DesignatedT]

Stop acting like that story is somehow credible.

[jestersmash]

Saying you are better than Manu though? Manu has done a lot for this franchise. It's kind of a slap in the face for Jack to say that about someone like Manu. Yeah, yeah Manu's been hurt most of the year but it's not like Jack was filling in his role.

Wait, what happened? Did Jack say something about Manu?

[UZER]

:lol I told you. As long as Bonner is on this team, he is gonna play. He is Pops heroine.

edit: and I know this has nothing to do with jax, but it just never fails that Bonner gets minutes in the playoffs :lol

[TheGoldStandard]

Yeah, Jack wasn't in the right either. Still, we need role players stepping up, not being told they're nothing more than spare parts.

Unless you're name is Matt Bonner you're not safe on this roster.

[timtonymanu]

Wait, what happened? Did Jack say something about Manu?

Could be total BS, but apparently Jack said he's better than Manu and Green.

[jestersmash]

ksat's facebook posted the news, and in the comments, someone wrote "Pop asked, Jackson if, he thought if, he was better than Manu & Danny Green? He said, "hell yeah" Pop told him, "that's your problem, you don't know your role". Then they got into a heated argument." that person was asked how they knew this, and she wrote that her son was at the barbershop, and overheard Jackson say that. ...........take it for what it's worth

Oh, missed this post. Interesting.

[timtonymanu]

Stop acting like that story is somehow credible.

You're probably right.

[Spurs Brazil]

http://www.nba.com/spurs/news/130412_spurs_waive_stephen_jackson

Spurs Place Stephen Jackson on Waivers
April 12, 2013
SAN ANTONIO – The San Antonio Spurs today announced that they have placed forward Stephen Jackson on waivers.

Jackson, who was in his second stint with the Spurs, saw action in 55 games this season, averaging 6.2 points, 2.8 rebounds and 1.5 assists in 19.5 minutes.

A 13-year NBA veteran, Jackson has appeared in 849 career games, averaging 15.3 points, 3.9 rebounds, 3.1 assists and 1.30 steals in 32.1 minutes.

The Spurs roster now stands at 14.

[Spur|n|Austin]

I'm not talking about it as just Jack being waived (Spurs could and would win without him), but the underlining meaning behind it and all the other things piling up. Morale is in the shitter now, everyone is banged up, and the team has no rhythm. Jack was having a bad year, but he was still a veteran who brought mental and physical toughness, which the team needs desperately.

You could also argue that the morale is actually better now; Spurs players are not the type to display the alleged actions, Jackson did. HE GONE!

You should probably log off for the day, take a rest, and come back tomorrow refreshed.

[milkyway21]

And the Knicks just waived Kurt Thomas

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We cannot sign a player for the playoffs if he was waived after March 1

[Robz4000]

God, what a depressing end of the season this has been. Not even the Lakers possibly missing the playoffs will lift my spirits. Would definitely help tho...

[024]

was wondering why the team was so shaky recently. this explains a lot, just sjax causing some cancer in the locker room.

[Bruno]

Could Singleton be the guy? He was reportedly signing with the Knicks as of yesterday, but I don't think it was made official and now today I see they've signed Jones.

Maybe but the rumored reason why the haven't signed Singleton was that they couldn't get a letter of clearance from his Chinese team. Singleton is also more a 4 than a 3.

[Pop]

I garantee he signs with the Thunder next year, he recorded a song with KD a while ago.

With Sefolosha and Sjax they will have incredible defense and clutch 3 point shooting.

[benefactor]

Well there goes the 4 replacement for Diaw. Who knows if Diaw will even be effective if he gets back.

I just hate to see it end like this. You almost felt like with the second stint Jack would go out in a blaze of glory in the playoffs. Seeing him waived before just before the playoffs is like least likely scenario. I'm just shocked.

[cjw]

What's the tax situation looking like? With the Baynes signing, aren't we right up against the tax line? Won't this impede the ability to sign anyone? And please no emo responses ("oh who cares, we won't win a game in the playoffs anyway").

Question will come down to the costs associated with going over the tax line vs. the benefit (additional home playoff games).

[Robz4000]

You could also argue that the morale is actually better now; Spurs players are not the type to display the alleged actions, Jackson did. HE GONE!

You should probably log off for the day, take a rest, and come back tomorrow refreshed.

Seeing a veteran whose pretty popular with his teammates let go before a potential deep playoff run would kill anyone's morale tbh...

[timtonymanu]

At this point, I would rather use Jack's spot to sign a big since that is more needed know with Diaw being out for a while.

Kawhi can handle the bulk of the minutes and maybe have Manu play the 3 so that Neal isn't at PG in any scenario.

[Bruno]

And fuck Jack.

When you are paid $10M per year and are one the worst player in the league, you don't bitch about your role. This event really tarnish what he did in 03'.

[LarryDavid]

I don't see the point in speculating who the Spurs sign. Im sure they'll stand pat with their roster.

[jag]

ksat's facebook posted the news, and in the comments, someone wrote "Pop asked, Jackson if, he thought if, he was better than Manu & Danny Green? He said, "hell yeah" Pop told him, "that's your problem, you don't know your role". Then they got into a heated argument." that person was asked how they knew this, and she wrote that her son was at the barbershop, and overheard Jackson say that. ...........take it for what it's worth

Our pets' heads...


























are falling off.

[Darius Bieber]

If I recall correctly, Jax cannot be signed by another team to play in the Playoffs, correct?

[timtonymanu]

Seeing a veteran whose pretty popular with his teammates let go before a potential deep playoff run would kill anyone's morale tbh...

Yes and even though Jack has an attitude, he has that swagger the Spurs have lacked since Bowen/Horry left. Without him, they become more vulnerable. Hopefully Splitter and Green grow some balls for the playoffs.

[timvp]

Random thoughts:

-Jack has been terrible offensively this season. I gave him the benefit of the doubt to begin the year but his recent struggles made me think he was more "done" than "coasting".

-As bad as he is on O, he was still easily the second best defensive small forward on the team. His physicality and toughness made him a legit small ball PF candidate. With Diaw out into the playoffs and Blonnair the other option, having Jack around would have been good depth, IMO.

-With Ginobili out and Leonard gimpy, Jack would have been decent insurance on the wing, too.

-If you've listened to any of his interviews, it's been obvious that he wasn't happy with his role. I thought it was more a I'm-not-happy-but-I'll-keep-trying-for-the-betterment-of-the-team type of situation ... but apparently it was more serious than that.

-This has to be the most shocking April related transaction since the Spurs signed Glenn Robinson.

-I don't care if the Spurs replace Jack or who that player is. It's too late to work someone into the rotation -- even as depth. If the roster spot is filled, the player will be at the very end of the bench. It matters zero.

-I want to trust Pop's judgement ... but, damn, it's difficult. As depth, Jack had some value. He had some more value because there was a possibility he could play better in the postseason. Further, with everyone dropping like flies, it's dangerous to just kick someone to the curb.

-Taking a glass half full view, maybe this helps galvanize the Spurs. Something has been a little "off" since Ginobili missed that free throw and the Suns beat the Spurs in overtime. I couldn't put my finger on it (other than injuries, obviously) but maybe there was a Jackson-related distraction that was taking away from the usual impeccable chemistry.

-Leonard has been able to play the entire second halves of big games ... which is even more notable now with Jackson gone. Come the playoffs, don't be surprised if Leonard averaged 40 MPG.

-Hopefully there's not a negative backlash. Jack, even through his antics over the years, is regarded as the ultimate teammate. Adding depression on top of injuries could be dangerous.



Wow..........

[ace3g]

Woj story

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nba--spurs-waive-stephen-jackson-after-disagreements-about-his-role-223252495.html

[szkorhetz]

What's the tax situation looking like? With the Baynes signing, aren't we right up against the tax line? Won't this impede the ability to sign anyone? And please no emo responses ("oh who cares, we won't win a game in the playoffs anyway").

Question will come down to the costs associated with going over the tax line vs. the benefit (additional home playoff games).
You can ALWAYS sign someone for the vet.min.

[El_Mago]

Can we re-sign him?

I highly doubt the Spurs would, but could they before the playoffs start? At the minimum?

This totally sucks. He can make clutch baskets, anti-soft, and hustles. Of course, he can D up when need to.

[pad300]

Maybe but the rumored reason why the haven't signed Singleton was that they couldn't get a letter of clearance from his Chinese team. Singleton is also more a 4 than a 3.

Three good reasons this is a good thing: Diaw (Back injury), Bonner (Sucks), Blair (also Sucks)...

[Thread]

You could also argue that the morale is actually better now

|n| gettin' it. The old blessing in disguise cover. You guys have always loved that shit. When 8 happened after the initial suicide spike you guys said the same thing:::"it's a blessing in disguise."

Get some. LMFAO!!!

[Spur|n|Austin]

At this point, I would rather use Jack's spot to sign a big since that is more needed know with Diaw being out for a while.

Kawhi can handle the bulk of the minutes and maybe have Manu play the 3 so that Neal isn't at PG in any scenario.

I wish Baynes could fill that void in our bigs.. :(

[Biernutz]

hate to see JAX go...

[Robz4000]

At this point, I would rather use Jack's spot to sign a big since that is more needed know with Diaw being out for a while.

Kawhi can handle the bulk of the minutes and maybe have Manu play the 3 so that Neal isn't at PG in any scenario.

I'm with the group that feels the Spurs won't sign anyone, but if they did, I'd say do this. Manu would be better at the 3 these days, and it opens a spot for both Neal and De Colo to play. Spurs desperately need a 4 now though.

[racm]

You know something has gone SERIOUSLY wrong. Pop's not the kind of guy to give up on his trusted vets that easily; the whole business with Finley is evidence enough, and Bonner is still on the team.

It must have been some combination of him shooting 37%/27%, a single digit PER, Leonard's breakout, and locker room stuff.

[Spur|n|Austin]

If I recall correctly, Jax cannot be signed by another team to play in the Playoffs, correct?

Correct, the CIA may have done this at this time on purpose, most likely not, though Jackson almost got waived at the deadline so who knows.

[KaiRMD1]

At least we still have Bonner

/sarcasm

[TD 21]

Maybe but the rumored reason why the haven't signed Singleton was that they couldn't get a letter of clearance from his Chinese team. Singleton is also more a 4 than a 3.

Ah. Yeah, he's not only more four than three, at this point he's probably strictly four (or, four/five more than four/three). I only mentioned him because him signing with the Knicks appeared to have hit a snag.

[Budkin]

No way to spin this. It's horrible news for the Spurs and especially our playoff prospects. WTF is Pop thinking?

[Bruno]

Three good reasons this is a good thing: Diaw (Back injury), Bonner (Sucks), Blair (also Sucks)...

As bad as Bonner and Blair have been, I highly doubt a player signed a week before the playoffs will be less worst than them.

[timtonymanu]

Poor Timmy doesn't deserve any of this. He's worked his ass off this year only for the team to melt down towards the end.

[Budkin]

|n| gettin' it. The old blessing in disguise cover. You guys have always loved that shit. When 8 happened after the initial suicide spike you guys said the same thing:::"it's a blessing in disguise."

Get some. LMFAO!!!

You have to be a fucking idiot to think this is a blessing in disguise.

[Malice]

Throwing in the towel TBH.

[Thread]

No way to spin this. It's horrible news for the Spurs and especially our playoff prospects. WTF is Pop thinking?

Bud, the voice of reason, moderation & truth in troubled times.

Budkin

[Thread]

You have to be a fucking idiot to think this is a blessing in disguise.

Don't blame me. Blame |n|.

[jestersmash]

The Spurs had threatened the release for several days, but Jackson was still surprised that coach Gregg Popovich carried through with it on Friday, sources said.

Very telling tidbit from Woj's article. So this was clearly an ongoing thing and Jax knew he was playing with fire. I agree with Bruno, though. When you're making $10M/year and producing more like a D-league bench warmer on offense, you have no room to complain about your role.

But again it's still a shame given his tremendous potential as a defensive 3/small 4.

[Thread]

Poor Timmy doesn't deserve any of this. He's worked his ass off this year only for the team to melt down towards the end.

& it's a cute ass with that tramp stamp over it.

tee, hee.

[Pop]

Pop aka Cesar Millan can't deal with player that won't let him neuter them.

[ace3g]

dan mccarney ‏@danmccarneysaen (https://twitter.com/danmccarneysaen) 15s (https://twitter.com/danmccarneysaen/status/322842918526275584) You can't make this stuff up. The Spurs are taking their team picture as we speak...

[Spur|n|Austin]

Three good reasons this is a good thing: Diaw (Back injury), Bonner (Sucks), Blair (also Sucks)...

If Singleton gets cleared by his team, he's going to the Knicks.

[timtonymanu]

dan mccarney ‏@danmccarneysaen (https://twitter.com/danmccarneysaen) 15s (https://twitter.com/danmccarneysaen/status/322842918526275584) You can't make this stuff up. The Spurs are taking their team picture as we speak...

Would be interesting to see all the forced smiles. Kawhi already has that down though. :lol

[milkyway21]

maybe Pop gave Stephen his chance to prove his worth when Manu was out & didn't meet his expectations..

[Mugen]

Jack was the only guy who could translate for DeJuan as well.

[DesignatedT]

So was Jack just not showing up for work or what?

[MaNu4Tres]

Jack was the only guy who could translate for DeJuan as well.

:lol

[Spur|n|Austin]

Don't blame me. Blame |n|.

The fuck are you rambling about now? I never even said those words you ass clown; I was referring to some asses comment about this hurting team morale saying this could on another hand, help the morale by getting rid of someone in the locker room who lashes at his HC. Go lurk somewhere else clown shoe.

[baseline bum]

|n| gettin' it. The old blessing in disguise cover. You guys have always loved that shit. When 8 happened after the initial suicide spike you guys said the same thing:::"it's a blessing in disguise."

Get some. LMFAO!!!

Go fuck your mother some more

[Thread]

Pop aka Cesar Millan can't deal with player that won't let him neuter them.

Yep, and he'd best be careful around unneutered-Neal. Last time somebody resisted Neal, (ass up in the air) he drilled 'em. Can ya imagine Poop leanin' over the water cooler in the lockeroom?

GET SOME!!!

[ivanfromwestwood]

isn't Stephen Jackson having a birthday party at a local bar this weekend or was it last weekend?

[romsho]

It was obvious Jack didn't give a fuck lately. Live tweeting during games, way more concerned with his rap career than basketball...no way that sits well with Pop considering the lack of production this season. That said, can't believe they just cut him. This season is circling the drain...

[emanueldavidginobili]

When I think of it Jax had to be ACTING up there is no way we cut him like that

[Thread]

Go fuck your mother some more

C'mon, sweetheart. Come ta Pappy. I'll comfort, angel puss.

Hell, Bum, because of this I got feeling below my belly button. Stand by, Katie-girl, Dale is comin'!!!

[will_spurs]

Pop has been trying to light a fire under this team's ass for the last few weeks. Maybe it was the last move he had...

[jestersmash]

Jack was the only guy who could translate for DeJuan as well.

:lmao

[Clipper Nation]

Yep, and he'd best be careful around unneutered-Neal. Last time somebody resisted Neal, (ass up in the air) he drilled 'em. Can ya imagine Poop leanin' over the water cooler in the lockeroom?

GET SOME!!!
You've nary room, your Kirby raped too....

/trendsetters, trends, etc.

[baseline bum]

C'mon, sweetheart. Come ta Pappy. I'll comfort, angel puss.

Hell, Bum, because of this I got feeling below my belly button. Stand by, Katie-girl, Dale is comin'!!!

What're you still doing here Dale? I thought I told you to go fuck your mother

[Thread]

When I think of it Jax had to be ACTING up there is no way we cut him like that

He probably tried to hit Poop, but, Neal was in the line too and got in the way.

LMFAO!!!

[dunkman]

With Diaw and Manu out, waving Jack doesn't make any sense.
Must have been some problem.

[Thread]

What're you still doing here Dale? I thought I told you to go fuck your mother

You're a funny guy!

[Spur|n|Austin]

Pop has been trying to light a fire under this team's ass for the last few weeks. Maybe it was the last move he had...

That's a good way to look at it; this move will have an effect, be it good or bad, the team will show something here.

[Splits]

I miss...

http://anythinghollywood.com/wp-content/2009/07/richard_jefferson_pics.jpg

[jestersmash]

With Diaw and Manu out, waving Jack doesn't make any sense.
Must have been some problem.

Well the general gist has already surfaced.

The topic creator should probably edit the first post with Woj's article or something, so people know what's going on.

[milkyway21]

I'm sad because he could be a plus based on his playoff experience with this team but kind of EXCITED too who the Spurs are going to sign for the playoffs...

I am thinking of someone who can really score & defend but it's ridiculous even to say it..so I just zip it and wait..

[Thread]

With Diaw and Manu out, waving Jack doesn't make any sense.
Must have been some problem.

For a white man to fire a black man in 2013 it musta been dire.

[Cane]

Spurs are so boring

[szkorhetz]

I'm sad because he could be a plus based on his playoff experience with this team but kind of EXCITED too who the Spurs are going to sign for the playoffs...

I am thinking of someone who can really score & defend but it's ridiculous even to say it..so I just zip it and wait..
Who?

[Robz4000]

I'm sad because he could be a plus based on his playoff experience with this team but kind of EXCITED too who the Spurs are going to sign for the playoffs...

I am thinking of someone who can really score & defend but it's ridiculous even to say it..so I just zip it and wait..

They're not signing anyone.

[Dex]

http://i.imgur.com/u2P3dm0.gif

[baseline bum]

:lmao:lmao

You're right; losing to Phoenix in the first would have been no big deal.

[emanueldavidginobili]

http://i.imgur.com/u2P3dm0.gif
LMAO

[z0sa]

Fuck man.

[milkyway21]

I don't think Tony & Manu are still recuperating.I think they are ready. But just resting & be ready fo the playoffs otherwise Pop won't do a drastic move like this one..

[Robz4000]

Btw, what happens with Jack's guarantee everyone will be healthy for the playoffs? :depressed

[trypldubl]

Our pets' heads...


























are falling off.


:lol that's classic

[LakerHater]

The Spurs are taking their team picture as we speak...

[Thread]

You think I'm here to amuse you?

"No, Tommy, you got it wro..."

[baseline bum]

You're a funny guy!

That's it Hendry!

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[cjw]

On the bright side, we're not on the hook for the $11mm due to RJ next year and all it cost us was Festus Ezeli. Jackson scored in double digits three times since Feb 1 and all came in losses. I cringe every time he bricks a shot and it's scary to think he'd be given the green light in the playoffs. He just regressed a LOT this year and would have been a complete liability offensively in any playoff floor time he saw. The one thing we will miss is his toughness on Durant should we make it that far. The West is pretty weak at SF outside of KD anyway, so hopefully by that point Diaw will be available and get some minutes on him.

[BillMc]

This is just a lose - lose situation.

We lose a body at the very least, when we're short on bodies. It's a distraction right before the playoffs. I know Timmy was a big fan of Jax as a teammate, it can't help but hurt morale.

For Jackson, I do think he's following the Allen Iverson route. He's not what he was, he's burned every bridge and he doesn't realize he's on his last chance... I would be surprised if he's on an NBA roster next year.

I tend to give the Spurs the benefit of the doubt. Pop and RC are not stupid, and they know they're injured. Jax must have turned into a daily nightmare for them to make this move now.

[jag]

I think Jackson is nearing the end of his contract and he realizes he won't be able to afford his lifestyle without another big payday. That payday wasn't going to come with him producing poorly in a limited role. He needed a larger role with more shots and more opportunities to showcase himself. It's not about winning; it's not about the team. With him it's about money.

[Thread]

I think Jackson is nearing the end of his contract and he realizes he won't be able to afford his lifestyle without another big payday. That payday wasn't going to come with him producing poorly in a limited role. He needed a larger role with more shots and more opportunities to showcase himself. It's not about winning; it's not about the team. With him it's about money.

That's a stupid hypothesis. I thought better of you than this shit, Jag.

[Dex]

This is a huge blow to the Spurs title chances.

Never mind the question marks about what this does to team morale, who is going to fill the minutes, and if the Spurs are going to bring in anybody else (who probably wouldn't get minutes anyways).

It boils down to this: if the Spurs want to win the title, they are going to have to go through both Durant and Lebron. Kawhi is great, but he can't do it by himself against two of the biggest foul-drawers in the league. Jackson was the only other person who could reasonably fill that void which is now gaping wide open, especially with Diaw being out.

The most likely scenario is Green will slide over to fill some of the backup SF minutes...and that's going to fail miserably.

No silver lining here. This just sucks. And frankly, it's just as much on Jax for being immature about his role as it is Pop for having a short fuse.

[ace3g]

Pop has a presser coming up soon

[Spur|n|Austin]

On the bright side, we're not on the hook for the $11mm due to RJ next year and all it cost us was Festus Ezeli. Jackson scored in double digits three times since Feb 1 and all came in losses. I cringe every time he bricks a shot and it's scary to think he'd be given the green light in the playoffs. He just regressed a LOT this year and would have been a complete liability offensively in any playoff floor time he saw. The one thing we will miss is his toughness on Durant should we make it that far. The West is pretty weak at SF outside of KD anyway, so hopefully by that point Diaw will be available and get some minutes on him.

:tu

[timvp]

Oh, and the Jack for RJ trade was still a great trade. One of the better ones in Spurs history.

[jestersmash]

Pop has a presser coming up soon

Is it live?

[Spur Bank]

What in the name of **** is going on with the reactions in this thread?

This is OBVIOUSLY a good decision. The Spurs are worse offensively and defensively with him on the floor -- he most certainly shouldn't be receiving ANY postseason minutes. Therefore, they released him. They could've kept him to be a towel-waver, but he has a history (recent history even, it sounds like) of being disgruntled, and releasing a player like that is VERY obviously the right thing to do.

[Spur|n|Austin]

The most likely scenario is Green will slide over to fill some of the backup SF minutes...and that's going to fail miserably.

Don't like.

[jag]

That's a stupid hypothesis. I thought better of you than this shit, Jag.

Shut your old senile ass up.

[Cane]

Captain's supposed to go down with the ship

Aye

[timtonymanu]

This is a huge blow to the Spurs title chances.

Never mind the question marks about what this does to team morale, who is going to fill the minutes, and if the Spurs are going to bring in anybody else (who probably wouldn't get minutes anyways).

It boils down to this: if the Spurs want to win the title, they are going to have to go through both Durant and Lebron. Kawhi is great, but he can't do it by himself against two of the biggest foul-drawers in the league. Jackson was the only other person who could reasonably fill that void which is now gaping wide open, especially with Diaw being out.

The most likely scenario is Green will slide over to fill some of the backup SF minutes...and that's going to fail miserably.

No silver lining here. This just sucks. And frankly, it's just as much on Jax for being immature about his role as it is Pop for having a short fuse.

True. But this wasn't the dagger. Tbh, we need a healthy Manu more than Jack. We aren't most likely getting Manu at 100%. I've accepted our fate when Manu's news came out. It just sucks that Tim has had a resurgence year and it's come to this for him. He deserves better.

[Pop]

What in the name of **** is going on with the reactions in this thread?

This is OBVIOUSLY a good decision. The Spurs are worse offensively and defensively with him on the floor -- he most certainly shouldn't be receiving ANY postseason minutes. Therefore, they released him. They could've kept him to be a towel-waver, but he has a history (recent history even, it sounds like) of being disgruntled, and releasing a player like that is VERY obviously the right thing to do.

:lmao

[spurraider21]

I don't see the point in speculating who the Spurs sign. Im sure they'll stand pat with their roster.

no reserve small forward. Manu banged up. Diaw out for the first round. Unless you count Manu as a small forward, our backup frontcourt right now consists of Blair, Bonner, Baynes. They're going to make a move

[Two10Whitey]

"Nevertheless, disagreements over Jackson's role resurfaced in recent days, and the Spurs believed that Jackson had started to have a negative impact on the team's younger players. Within the Spurs, the organization didn't believe Jackson was playing well enough to bring him into the playoffs under these circumstances." If that shit is true then good riddance.

[Spur Bank]

This is a huge blow to the Spurs title chances. LOL!


Never mind the question marks about what this does to team morale,It improves it.

who is going to fill the minutes,Nobody. This is for the playoffs, his 0 minutes are being replaced by no one's.

and if the Spurs are going to bring in anybody elseThey aren't.


It boils down to this: if the Spurs want to win the title, they are going to have to go through both Durant and Lebron. Kawhi is great, but he can't do it by himself against two of the biggest foul-drawers in the league. Jackson was the only other person who could reasonably fill that void which is now gaping wide open, especially with Diaw being out.Jackson's not a good defender anymore. He doesn't have the quickness needed. Putting him on the floor to defend Durant or Lebron is a GREAT way to lose a game.


No silver lining here. This just sucks.I've got a silver lining for you -- we're a better team now.

[ace3g]

Paul Garcia PS ‏@24writer (https://twitter.com/24writer) 12s (https://twitter.com/24writer/status/322848501866307584) “We thought we did with Jack what was best for our group.”-Pop on Jack release. #Spurs (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Spurs&src=hash)

[ace3g]

Paul Garcia PS ‏@24writer (https://twitter.com/24writer) now (https://twitter.com/24writer/status/322848689804697601) “No conspiracy theory. He was classy,” said Pop of informing Jackson. #Spurs (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Spurs&src=hash)

[DesignatedT]

Can Jack be eligible for the playoffs?

[Mugen]

Matty choking for the last 3 years in a row is setting a worse example for the younger guys tbh.

[jestersmash]

Paul Garcia PS ‏@24writer (https://twitter.com/24writer) 12s (https://twitter.com/24writer/status/322848501866307584) “We thought we did with Jack what was best for our group.”-Pop on Jack release. #Spurs (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Spurs&src=hash)

Meh, standard politically correct PR response. I guess I shouldn't have expected differently, especially coming from Pop.

[timtonymanu]

Can Jack be eligible for the playoffs?

He isn't. Players had to be waived last month to be eligible.

[Mugen]

Can Jack be eligible for the playoffs?

I don't believe so. I think he's ineligible since he was waved so late in the season.

[ace3g]

Paul Garcia PS ‏@24writer (https://twitter.com/24writer) 3s (https://twitter.com/24writer/status/322848899683463168) Pop on releasing Jackson: "You've got to do what you've got to do." #Spurs (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Spurs&src=hash)

Paul Garcia PS ‏@24writer (https://twitter.com/24writer) now (https://twitter.com/24writer/status/322849058244927488)
Pop on whether Jackson was upset about playing time? "You'll have to ask Jack." #Spurs (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Spurs&src=hash)

[timtonymanu]

Jack must have done some really shitty stuff if Pop tolerated the more vocal, social media obsessed DeJuan Blair.

[tony77]

Pop's press conference "Pop called Jack's decision "a basketball decision and a family decision." Said Jack handled news in a "classy" manner" by @JMcDonald_SAEN

Pop did not bite on question of whether Jack had been disgruntled. Said only dismissal "what's best for the team."

[LakerHater]

Pop called Jack decision "a basketball decision and a family decision." Said Jack handled news in a "classy" manner.

[jestersmash]

I wonder if Jack will tweet about the playoffs. And if he does, I wonder if he'll tweet in support of the Spurs.

[Budkin]

This is really infuriating. Jack is a fucking warrior... especially come playoff time. Pop should have just made due.

[TheGoldStandard]

I blame Gary Neal

[timtonymanu]

Jack's last game as a Spur

http://www.nba.com/games/20130406/ATLSAS/gameinfo.html

The same game where Pop called it a pathetic performance and left quickly after the comment. He was very pissed after the game. And Pop has been pissed in the past for post games but still gave interviews. Jack was inactive for Wednesday's game. I wonder if there was a meltdown before the Hawks game that transpired and Pop just had enough.

I could be grasping for straws though. :lol

[BatManu20]

Wow. So how about that Miami repeat, eh?

[ace3g]

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[timvp]

So ...

-TP injured and not playing at 100% since February.

-Manu has two bad hamstrings and might or might not be back at some point in the first round. He hasn't been the same since he started having hamstring trouble -- so expecting anything from him at this point is iffy.

-Diaw out for the first round at best.

-Bonner and Blair healthy as horses.

-Duncan is turning 37.

-No Jack.

-Leonard is gimpy.

-Backup PG still unsettled.

-Neal not 100%.

-Splitter appears to have run out of gas.

-De Colo is either too wild or too passive.

-Mills can't hit a meaningful shot.

-Joseph has hit some sort of sophomore wall.

-Green needs players playing well around him to do well.

-Baynes hasn't been added to the fold.

-I'm not 100% convinced Duncan is the same since before The Scare.



*slowly shakes head*



............................................... damn.

[ElNono]

http://www.threadbombing.com/data/media/64/ipqveg.gif

[crc21209]

I'm pretty sad tbh. Dissapointed, and sad. I was one of Jack's biggest fans and supporters here. But, you gotta do what you gotta do I guess. I don't support it. I mean you know what kind of guy Jack was when you brought him back. While his attitude can be a real negative at times, it was also what made him a damn great teammate. The guy also brought toughness and fight to close playoff games.

So now we're rolling with TP, Manu, and Neal at the guards? And Kawhi and Green at the SF spot or what?

The first round we may be without Manu and without Diaw. So that leaves us with TP and Neal at the guards and Kawhi and Green (?) at the SF spot...

[DPG21920]

:lmao Jackson and Facebook shittin all over DesignatedT

[Pop]

http://distilleryimage1.ak.instagram.com/a9b35faea3c611e2a82422000a9e07ae_7.jpg

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Proves that the facebook story was legit lol.

[ElNono]

So ...

-TP injured and not playing at 100% since February.

-Manu has two bad hamstrings and might or might not be back at some point in the first round. He hasn't been the same since he started having hamstring trouble -- so expecting anything from him at this point is iffy.

-Diaw out for the first round at best.

-Bonner and Blair healthy as horses.

-Duncan is turning 37.

-No Jack.

-Leonard is gimpy.

-Backup PG still unsettled.

-Neal not 100%.

-Splitter appears to have run out of gas.

-De Colo is either too wild or too passive.

-Mills can't hit a meaningful shot.

-Joseph has hit some sort of sophomore wall.

-Green needs players playing well around him to do well.

-Baynes hasn't been added to the fold.

-I'm not 100% convinced Duncan is the same since before The Scare.



*slowly shakes head*



............................................... damn.

CIA Pop

[Pop]

Pop shitting on Sjax telling him he can't compare to Danny fucking Green is wrong as fuck imo.

[Spur Bank]

timvp, glad you put that one positive for the Spurs playoffs chances (Jack is gone) amongst all the negatives.

[TheGoldStandard]

It's time for TP to earn some of that praise come playoff time, can't shrivel up and disappear.

[DesignatedT]

:lmao Jackson and Facebook shittin all over DesignatedT

huh?

[BatManu20]

This sucks... always loved SJAX. At least he can't sign with any other team since he was waved after March 1.

[Mugen]

Going to be an awesome Championship DVD tbh. :lol

[CitizenDwayne]

http://distilleryimage1.ak.instagram.com/a9b35faea3c611e2a82422000a9e07ae_7.jpg

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Kind of a douchey thing to say.

[crc21209]

So can everyone in here agree that if this team SOMEHOW makes the NBA Finals it would be the greatest run ever to the Finals for a Spurs team?

[DPG21920]

huh?

You said that Facebook story was not true, no?

[Kori Ellis]

http://distilleryimage1.ak.instagram.com/a9b35faea3c611e2a82422000a9e07ae_7.jpg

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:lmao

So he actually did say he was better than Manu and Danny.

[LakerHater]

http://uppix.net/3/a/3/dde000dbee0d782c4db5ddc2f35f4.jpg

[TheGoldStandard]

Don't worry David Stern is hard at work to manipulate the rules to allow SJAX to sign with Miami so he can stick it to the Spurs one more time.

[milkyway21]

maybe SJax is still into his latest tragedy he is not 100% yet into the game. he just lost a baby with her wife they waited and excited for that child, their 1st... he might have asked for this..not that the Spurs wanted him out..I mean it could have been a mutual agreement..IMO

[DesignatedT]

You said that Facebook story was not true, no?

Which story? The one about him having a meltdown or the one about him in the barbershop?

[DPG21920]

Jack used the wrong "their" tbh..

Also, he is being douchey about it.

[DPG21920]

Which story? The one about him having a meltdown or the one about him in the barbershop?

The barbershop.

[ohmwrecker]

14 pages and no one knows anything?

[EricB]

They're better than playing Bonner and Blair.


Oh give me a freaking break...

[timtonymanu]

Very shitty thing for Jack to say, then. He seemed to have much respect for Manu and this is a total slap in the face thing to say about Manu. Also an insult to Danny Green. Yeah, Green might be a choker, but the guy knows his role and plays hard.

[Pop]

Edit wrong quote fck.

[DesignatedT]

The barbershop.

That's confirmed to be true?

[Mugen]

:lmao

So he actually did say he was better than Manu and Danny.

:lol Pretty much. And Pop cut him on the spot. Pop's a cold ass muthaucka, tbh. :lmao

[DPG21920]

That's confirmed to be true?

Did you see what Stephen Jackson himself just said?

[Floyd Pacquiao]

So ...

-TP injured and not playing at 100% since February.

-Manu has two bad hamstrings and might or might not be back at some point in the first round. He hasn't been the same since he started having hamstring trouble -- so expecting anything from him at this point is iffy.

-Diaw out for the first round at best.

-Bonner and Blair healthy as horses.

-Duncan is turning 37.

-No Jack.

-Leonard is gimpy.

-Backup PG still unsettled.

-Neal not 100%.

-Splitter appears to have run out of gas.

-De Colo is either too wild or too passive.

-Mills can't hit a meaningful shot.

-Joseph has hit some sort of sophomore wall.

-Green needs players playing well around him to do well.

-Baynes hasn't been added to the fold.

-I'm not 100% convinced Duncan is the same since before The Scare.



*slowly shakes head*



............................................... damn.

it's not supposed to end like this.............it can't end like this...............

[Capster]

Put the Coyote in!
http://i.cdn.turner.com/nba/nba/.element/media/2.0/teamsites/spurs/imgs/130403_coyote_300_2.jpg

[DesignatedT]

Did you see what Stephen Jackson himself just said?

No. What did he say? Who interviewed him?

[DPG21920]

ksat's facebook posted the news, and in the comments, someone wrote "Pop asked, Jackson if, he thought if, he was better than Manu & Danny Green? He said, "hell yeah" Pop told him, "that's your problem, you don't know your role". Then they got into a heated argument." that person was asked how they knew this, and she wrote that her son was at the barbershop, and overheard Jackson say that. ...........take it for what it's worth


Yeah, like that story actually fucking happened.


Stop acting like that story is somehow credible.


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:lmao Jackson and Facebook shittin all over DesignatedT

[ElNono]

this sucks... F Pop, tbh...

lol "family decision"... family full of pussies...

/meltdown

[timvp]

Like I said in the other thread, what allowed Jackson to have an NBA career was his fiery confidence in himself. You take that away from him and he's still in Port Arthur. Come playoff time, you want players on your team who think they are the best player on the court.

Ah well. Leonard being able to play 40+ minutes will make this less of an issue. But still shocking as hell, IMO.

[DPG21920]

No. What did he say? Who interviewed him?

:lol just stop. you trollin'

[superjames1992]

LOL at you Jaxsuckers. The chicken has come home to roost. Can't say I didn't tell you so... :lol

But, but, he'll perform in the playoffs! He'll hit threes against OKC! :lol :lol :lol

[Kori Ellis]

Even if Jack really believes he's better than Manu/Danny, that kind of crap doesn't fly in the Spurs organization. So if they were threatening to cut him the past few days, and he was still challenging them about playing time and he wouldn't relent about being better than them, then Pop was right to cut him. I love Jack, but damn -- that's not the way you behave. Especially in this organization.

[DesignatedT]

LOL. Wow.

What an idiot.

[Robz4000]

Like I said in the other thread, what allowed Jackson to have an NBA career was his fiery confidence in himself. You take that away from him and he's still in Port Arthur. Come playoff time, you want players on your team who think they are the best player on the court.

Ah well. Leonard being able to play 40+ minutes will make this less of an issue. But still shocking as hell, IMO.

Exactly what I said.

[jestersmash]

Wow, Stephen Jackson is totally batshit delusional if he really thought he was better than Manu Ginobili.

[DPG21920]

Harder and harder to side at all with Jack when you see he said that. That's not cool at all. Still hoped cooler heads would prevail though.

[Pop]

Lol at Pop thinking that Green is so great, cutting SJax and James Anderson. RETARDED.

Pop is irrational.

[timtonymanu]

LOL at you Jaxsuckers. The chicken has come home to roost. Can't say I didn't tell you so... :lol

But, but, he'll perform in the playoffs! He'll hit threes against OKC! :lol :lol :lol

:lol I'll be the first to admit I was strongly defending him, but the hate against him had to do more with his skillset than his attitude. So he proved both sides wrong.

[exstatic]

What in the world did he have a "meltdown" over. It couldn't have been about his contract extension could it? I mean he hasn't brought it up all year, why would he now?

The timing was right. That article about the most overpaid NBA players came out in the last few days. He was on the list. He didn't seem happy about it.

Jack has always been his own worst enemy.

[LakerHater]

http://uppix.net/2/5/b/d963cda304f3b82221dba52831906.jpg

[ElNono]

Jack is a proud and confident guy... he'll say he's better than KD... but you don't butcher him like that unless he's being a pest about his minutes... especially when we're shorthanded...

IMO anyways

[rasho8]

Oh well. This sucks but I didn't expect a title the year after Manu and Tony went out. Manu won't be close to game ready in the second round. No Diaw is bullshit and Neal still has no idea what a pass is.

GG Spurs.

[Pop]

Pop's ego is out of control, someone needs to get in his face and tell him that he fucked up the team chances with his bullshit.

[crc21209]

Like I said in the other thread, what allowed Jackson to have an NBA career was his fiery confidence in himself. You take that away from him and he's still in Port Arthur. Come playoff time, you want players on your team who think they are the best player on the court.

Ah well. Leonard being able to play 40+ minutes will make this less of an issue. But still shocking as hell, IMO.

Here's the big question about this decision. Is Pop really going to fucking play Kawhi 40+ minutes a game? Or are we going to continue to see 25-35 minutes a game? I'm tired of Pop babying guys, especially a young guy like Kawhi. Let him loose out there already...

[TheGoldStandard]

Can Pop please ask Gary Neal if he's better than Danny Green and then immediately fire him?

[timtonymanu]

Paranoid Pop once again on his diatribe about Danny Green. :lol

[jestersmash]

Can Pop please ask Gary Neal if he's better than Danny Green and then immediately fire him?

:lmao

[timtonymanu]

Here's the big question about this decision. Is Pop really going to fucking play Kawhi 40+ minutes a game? Or are we going to continue to see 25-35 minutes a game? I'm tired of Pop babying guys, especially a young guy like Kawhi. Let him loose out there already...

I'm sure Pop will increase his minutes in the playoffs. He has no other option since the other possible SF options are out right now (Diaw, Manu).

[BillMc]

It'll be interesting tonight to see how hard the guys play and their body language. Maybe we'll get a feeling if they're behind Pop, Jax or indifferent to the development.

[TheGoldStandard]

Here's the big question about this decision. Is Pop really going to fucking play Kawhi 40+ minutes a game? Or are we going to continue to see 25-35 minutes a game? I'm tired of Pop babying guys, especially a young guy like Kawhi. Let him loose out there already...

If he plays him 40 minutes then expect to see Kawhi sitting every other game. That tendonitis is gonna flare like a mofo

[EricB]

No way to spin this. It's horrible news for the Spurs and especially our playoff prospects. WTF is Pop thinking?


So you keep a guy that is turning cancerous in the locker room? Awesome, are you Mike Dunleavy?

[G-Nob]

I have to side with Pop and trust what he's doing here. With all of his ill-temperament, he wouldn't make a decision like this without a thoughful conclusion. I hope this is the addition by subtraction shot in the arm they need.

There is still time to make this thing right for the playoffs. But damn.

[timvp]

Here's the big question about this decision. Is Pop really going to fucking play Kawhi 40+ minutes a game? Or are we going to continue to see 25-35 minutes a game? I'm tired of Pop babying guys, especially a young guy like Kawhi. Let him loose out there already...

Come the playoffs, Kawhi is going to average a whole hell of a lot of minutes. Pop has been playing him the entire second half of big games. Even if he gets an 8 minute break in the first half, that's still 40 MPG when the chips are down....

[EricB]

Here's the big question about this decision. Is Pop really going to fucking play Kawhi 40+ minutes a game? Or are we going to continue to see 25-35 minutes a game? I'm tired of Pop babying guys, especially a young guy like Kawhi. Let him loose out there already...


You mean a young guy with a knee problem?

[timtonymanu]

So can everyone in here agree that if this team SOMEHOW makes the NBA Finals it would be the greatest run ever to the Finals for a Spurs team?

It would be the most odd thing since the Jack trade almost put the Spurs over the top last year and if they managed to win this year without him. I'm all for it, tbh.

[Pop]

Can Pop please ask Gary Neal if he's better than Danny Green and then immediately fire him?

How do you ask a guy with Sjax resumé if he's better than a Danny Green. How do you cut James Anderson and Stephen Jackson because of your irrational love for a single scrub...

[maurolv]

The Spurs organization wants hall-of-fame-kinda-players (like Manu) who would sit on the bench if they have to "because that's what's best for the team." I, personally, highly respect that.

JAX's cockiness wasn't going to be allowed.

[Pop]

You mean a young guy with a knee problem?

And who can get in foul trouble easily since he'll guard the best players.

[EricB]

Danny green saying "we have chemistry issues". pop's comment about certain guys have to get their head around things after Saturday's game.

it all adds up...

[jestersmash]

It'll be interesting tonight to see how hard the guys play and their body language. Maybe we'll get a feeling if they're behind Pop, Jax or indifferent to the development.

I wouldn't be surprised if they were indifferent. The young guys might even find it refreshing if Jack was truly being a cancer in the locker room.

Jack seemed to hang out with a different crowd anyway with his whole rap thing on the side.

[timvp]

Now that I think about it, the Spurs looked much more cohesive in the Nuggets game than they have in recent weeks. Sure, they sucked for a lot of the game but at least it was cohesive sucking :lol

Maybe I'm reaching for glimmers of hope but as a Spurs fan I have to wish that Jack was a monstrous distraction.

[EricB]

The Spurs organization wants hall-of-fame-kinda-players (like Manu) who would sit on the bench if they have to "because that's what's best for the team." I, personally, highly respect that.

JAX's cockiness wasn't going to be allowed.


Cockyness is fun as long as you don't go AI and let it affect the team.

[TheGoldStandard]

How do you ask a guy with Sjax resumé if he's better than a Danny Green. How do you cut James Anderson and Stephen Jackson because of your irrational love for a single scrub...

Same reason you run Bonner/Blair out there with a legit big sitting on the bench and in Austin for half the season.

[maurolv]

Cockyness is fun as long as you don't go AI and let it affect the team.

Which is what apparently happened...

[exstatic]

Maybe Jax was the one that broke into Pop's home.

:lmao

[swaggerjackson]

This barbershop story sounds too far fetched. Not because Jax thought he was better than Danny or Manu, but because Pop asks him if he thinks he is better. Why the hell would Pop do something like that?! It is a bullshit question because all three of them have largely different roles. And more to the fact it is a lose lose situation. Either Jax shows weakness by backing down to Manu and Danny (no I am not better than Manu or Danny), or it gets Jax all high and mighty as the story suggests (Hell yea I am better than Manu and Danny) . Pop is the smartest coach in the NBA, and I am sure he is smart enough not to pit his players against one another. There must be something else going on. I don't think this whole thing started from Pop throwing that question out. There has to be a more reasonable explanation.

[McGusto55]

FUCKKKKKKKK

[Pop]

This barbershop story sounds too far fetched. Not because Jax thought he was better than Danny or Manu, but because Pop asks him if he thinks he is better. Why the hell would Pop do something like that?! It is a bullshit question because all three of them have largely different roles. And more to the fact it is a lose lose situation. Either Jax shows weakness by backing down to Manu and Danny (no I am not better than Manu or Danny), or it gets Jax all high and mighty as the story suggests (Hell yea I am better than Manu and Danny) . Pop is the smartest coach in the NBA, and I am sure he is smart enough not to pit his players against one another. There must be something else going on. I don't think this whole thing started from Pop throwing that question out. There has to be a more reasonable explanation.

That's not far fetched at all, it was his direct competition in the rotation.

[exstatic]

Maybe he could get a year or two for the absolute minimum if he managed to impress in practice. He'd have to re-acquire some semblance of an offensive game, though.

EXTREMELY doubtful. He's, what 36? And he just pushed the only coach known to put up with any measure of his shit right over the edge.

Stephen Jackson is officially radioactive, if he weren't already, in the eyes of the NBA.

[EricB]

Pop isn't the type to drop the "you think your better than these guys?" It's just not his mo.

[Pop]

Pop isn't the type to drop the "you think your better than these guys?" It's just not his mo.

Pop is god.

[superjames1992]

EXTREMELY doubtful. He's, what 36? And he just pushed the only coach known to put up with any measure of his shit right over the edge.

Stephen Jackson is officially radioactive, if he weren't already, in the eyes of the NBA.
He turned 35 a few days ago, so he's younger than Manu, tbh. Unfortunately, due to all the illicit drugs he has done over the years, he hasn't aged as well as Manu, tbh.

[G-Nob]

but at least it was cohesive sucking

Believe it or not, cohesive sucking is a thing. Even if the spurs are going to get swept at some point, you want them to be cohesively swept and not just roll over as they have shown in the past. [insert praying dog]

[Brazil]

WoW that's surprising but

Spurs fans are too sentimental with jax tbh, dude is washed up. He was not the difference between a ring or not.

[superjames1992]

Spurs fans are too sentimental with jax tbh, dude is washed up. He was not the difference between a ring or not.
+100000000000000000000000000.

[TheGoldStandard]

This is the NBA, he'll get another look and might get signed somewhere.

[loveforthegame]

Crazy shit to come home too. Still in shock.

[lefty]

WoW that's surprising but

Spurs fans are too sentimental with jax tbh, dude is washed up. He was not the difference between a ring or not.
Still a good KD defender

But other than tjat he has been shit lol

[Chomag]

Maybe He told Pop that Bonner and Blair Ball was shit? Just kidding(I hope)

Honestly though this team just now lost about 80% of it's mental toughness, and is completely charminsoft going into the playoffs.

[timtonymanu]

Maybe He told Pop that Bonner and Blair Ball was shit? Just kidding(I hope)

Honestly though this team just now lost about 80% of it's mental toughness, and is completely charminsoft going into the playoffs.

Gonna need Patty's towel waving to deliver more swagger for this team :lol

[NASpurs]

We cannot sign a player for the playoffs if he was waived after March 1

That wasn't the point of my post. I just found it weird how two old verterans are waived so late in the season.

[Brazil]

Cannot wait next pop's interview tbh

[Chomag]

WoW that's surprising but

Spurs fans are too sentimental with jax tbh, dude is washed up. He was not the difference between a ring or not.

It's not really his play that Spurs will be greatly missing. Who else on this team has any tough swagger?

[Proxy]

Cannot wait next pop's interview tbh

http://www.nba.com/spurs/video/2013/04/12/130412poppremov-2442709

[Brazil]

Still a good KD defender

But other than tjat he has been shit lol

A bit overrated, Durant will do his stuff no matter what you throw at him.

i loved jax toughness but he was mostly a liability this year

[Brazil]

It's not really his play that Spurs will be greatly missing. Who else on this team has any tough swagger?

Yes but difficult to overcome his poor play just for his tough swagger...I hoped like everybody that jax was coasting and would have a great PO run but no denying that he has been freaking horrible all year.

[superjames1992]

Expect to see a lot of this in the playoffs.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwcNEXni0QM

[Proxy]

It would've been funny in the interview to hear Pop say he'd waive Manu too if he nagged him too much about playing

[cd98]

Jax won't get on another team. No one will offer him what he thinks he's worth and he'll sulk if underpaid. His attitude shows he can't be a veteran leader. He had a great run for us 9 years ago. But he's a lot older now and though his mind may say he's better than Manu or Danny, his body is saying no.

[spurraider21]

Why couldn't they just bench him? Just as a reserve body above anything, especially with our injury situation. I don't think one guy can damage a locker room that much with Tim being the leader.

[Pop]

Jax won't get on another team. No one will offer him what he thinks he's worth and he'll sulk if underpaid. His attitude shows he can't be a veteran leader. He had a great run for us 9 years ago. But he's a lot older now and though his mind may say he's better than Manu or Danny, his body is saying no.

Meh people said that no team would give Rasheed another chance as well and we saw how that turned out.

I could see him in OKC next year, in the Fisher role, with Sefo and him they'd have incredible defenders, he recorded a song with KD as well.

[rascal]

Like I said in the other thread, what allowed Jackson to have an NBA career was his fiery confidence in himself. You take that away from him and he's still in Port Arthur. Come playoff time, you want players on your team who think they are the best player on the court.

Ah well. Leonard being able to play 40+ minutes will make this less of an issue. But still shocking as hell, IMO.

Jackson stinks now as a player and his bad attitude thinking is better than he really is, is a detriment to overall team morale. Good thing he is off the team. Jackson was not going to suddenly roll back the clock and be an impact player once the playoffs started.

[therealtruth]

Can Pop please ask Gary Neal if he's better than Danny Green and then immediately fire him?

This allows Pop more minutes to give to Neal, Bonner, and Blair. Playoff opponents should be scared.

[Brazil]

http://www.nba.com/spurs/video/2013/04/12/130412poppremov-2442709

Thanks Proxy

pop being pop an ass with reporters :lol

[jestersmash]

Jax won't get on another team. No one will offer him what he thinks he's worth and he'll sulk if underpaid. His attitude shows he can't be a veteran leader. He had a great run for us 9 years ago. But he's a lot older now and though his mind may say he's better than Manu or Danny, his body is saying no.

Yeah but the problem is he was never better than Manu.

[rmt]

This is a huge blow to the Spurs title chances.

Never mind the question marks about what this does to team morale, who is going to fill the minutes, and if the Spurs are going to bring in anybody else (who probably wouldn't get minutes anyways).

It boils down to this: if the Spurs want to win the title, they are going to have to go through both Durant and Lebron. Kawhi is great, but he can't do it by himself against two of the biggest foul-drawers in the league. Jackson was the only other person who could reasonably fill that void which is now gaping wide open, especially with Diaw being out.

The most likely scenario is Green will slide over to fill some of the backup SF minutes...and that's going to fail miserably.

No silver lining here. This just sucks. And frankly, it's just as much on Jax for being immature about his role as it is Pop for having a short fuse.

I agree with this whole post. What in the world could be so bad that Pop would waive him this close to the playoffs. If he isn't producing offensively, just don't call his number, but he will be needed defensively for Durant and Lebron (if they make it that far) and does give options as far as small ball is concerned especially with Diaw being out. Now there's a gaping hole at SF/PF and little size on the wing.

[superjames1992]

CIA Pop™

[Biernutz]

JAX isn't finished yet... there is always Dallas