Peace out Stak5....Thanks fer the good times

[tenbeersbold]

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[baseline bum]

Sad sad day. Best of luck in the future wherever it takes you Stak5.

[Bruno]

No way I will thank him for being a selfish asshole.

[Mugen]

I'll have good memories of Jack tbh and always will.

Too bad he killed his NBA career with this move.

[Pop]

:toast

"If you're scared go to church" SJAX 2012

Pop is overpaid and has an inflated ego as well so I won't blame SJax without knowing how it went down and we'll never know.

[timvp]

Trill til the end.

In a way, this was kinda an apropos way for him to go out.

Thanks for the good times :tu

[timvp]

No way I will thank him for being a selfish asshole.

Meh, you take away Jack's rabid self confidence and you don't have an NBA level player.

The same thing that made him trustworthy in tough times is the same thing that was his ultimate demise. Same thing happened with Avery Johnson. If you're going to take the good end of that trait, you have to live with the negatives.

[Robz4000]

Gonna miss you Cap't Jack!

Wish you weren't going out this way, tho...

[timtonymanu]

Shitty way for Jack to go out, but hey we may be still bitching about Richard Jefferson if the Jack trade never went down.

[Mugen]

No way I will thank him for being a selfish asshole.

Dude's had a rough year. Not sure if he deserves 100% of the blame as Pop can be a selfish asshole as well tbh.

[Bruno]

Meh, you take away Jack's rabid self confidence and you don't have an NBA level player.

The same thing that made him trustworthy in tough times is the same thing that was his ultimate demise. Same thing happened with Avery Johnson. If you're going to take the good end of that trait, you have to live with the negatives.

Letting the team down one week before the playoffs is a too big negative for me to live with.

In a couple of years, there will maybe only left the good memories of 03' but not for the moment.

[TheGoldStandard]

Pop is nobody without Tim Duncan, his rotations have been shit and he'll pull a player out even if they've just hit 3 or 4 in a role while everyone is stagnant for no reason.

[timvp]

Letting the team down one week before the playoffs is a too big negative for me to live with.

In a couple of years, there will maybe only left the good memories of 03' but not for the moment.

It looks like something that has been bubbling all season. It sounds like the Spurs finally gave up on him producing enough to offset his "normal" issues.

If Jack were playing great, they'd live with Jack being Jack. But him sucking changed the equation.

So, yeah, I don't put much stock in the "it's unforgivable because it's right before the playoffs" angle.

[Proxy]

Pop is nobody without Tim Duncan, his rotations have been shit and he'll pull a player out even if they've just hit 3 or 4 in a role while everyone is stagnant for no reason.

please stop posting, thanks

[Bruno]

It looks like something that has been bubbling all season. It sounds like the Spurs finally gave up on him producing enough to offset his "normal" issues.

Well, there have been a report few days ago saying that Jack had a huge meltdown. So, while Jack certainly wasn't happy with his role for a long time, he make it an unsolvable issue just before the playoffs. If he had some kind of respect for the team and his teammates, he wouldn't have done that.

[RD2191]

:hat

[Spur|n|Austin]

Much love old school; you walked to the beat of your own drum, and someone taming that was dead wrong.

[timvp]

Well, there have been a report few days ago saying that Jack had a huge meltdown. So, while Jack certainly wasn't happy with his role for a long time, he make it an unsolvable issue just before the playoffs. If he had some kind of respect for the team and his teammates, he wouldn't have done that.

If he was playing well, the Spurs would have just shrugged it off as Jack being Jack. It became "unsolvable" because he has sucked recently.

[spurs_fan_in_exile]

A3oFezUsfeA

:toast

[Floyd Pacquiao]

peace out my nig... thanks for game 6 wcf 03 and game 6 nba finals 03...a trill nigga till the end...brought that swag and never backed down from no one (not even pop)...to bad you let your ego get the best of you and it had to end like this..

[crc21209]

Thanks for everything Jack. :tu Damn it. I still can't believe this. I had a feeling he was going to have a playoff moment or two in the post-season...guess not.

[Bruno]

If he was playing well, the Spurs would have just shrugged it off as Jack being Jack. It became "unsolvable" because he has sucked recently.

Or it becomes unsolvable because Jack makes it a bigger issue lately by bitching more and louder...

We won't know for sure until knowing the full story but I'm convinced Jack significantly increased his bitching because of that report and because I don't see why Spurs would have put themselves in such a shitty situation roster wise one week before the playoffs without a good reason to do so.

[BatManu20]

My lasting memory of SJAX. Never forget..

Lm6hepN6L84

[EricB]

Or it becomes unsolvable because Jack makes it a bigger issue lately by bitching more and louder...

We won't know for sure until knowing the full story but I'm convinced Jack significantly increased his bitching because of that report and because I don't see why Spurs would have put themselves in such a shitty situation roster wise one week before the playoffs without a good reason to do so.



Cant argue with this.

[superjames1992]

The team will be better with this scrub off the team, tbh. People had irrational expectations that he would come through after sucking ass all season and hit 20,000 threes in the playoffs, but it wasn't happening. This is a good thing for the team. We need to rid our body of the malignant tumor before it kills us. No one said it wouldn't hurt.

[benefactor]

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.lemondrop.com/media/2010/10/pour-some-beer-out-for-homies.jpg

[timvp]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uu5P4pOUuYk

[foodie2]

Pop is nobody without Tim Duncan, his rotations have been shit and he'll pull a player out even if they've just hit 3 or 4 in a role while everyone is stagnant for no reason.

What does this even mean? " 3 or 4 in a role"--is this English?

[Pop]

What does this even mean? " 3 or 4 in a role"--is this English?

In a row obviously... You never mistyped I'm sure.

[Trainwreck2100]

thanks for being the only one with a pulse last year

[Budkin]

The game tonight is going to be a complete disaster.

[cd98]

Meh, you take away Jack's rabid self confidence and you don't have an NBA level player.

The same thing that made him trustworthy in tough times is the same thing that was his ultimate demise. Same thing happened with Avery Johnson. If you're going to take the good end of that trait, you have to live with the negatives.

Its not his overconfidence. It's his unwillingness to put his ego a side for the team. Why couldn't he keep his mouth shut and prove his point on the court? He was getting consistent minutes. He was totally selfish and if his release hurts the Spurs in the playoffs, then it will be Jackson's fault for being a cancer when he was supposed to be a veteran leader.

[timtonymanu]

The game tonight is going to be a complete disaster.

Why do you think so? TP will be back. The Kings might be tanking. I'm interested to see how the team's mentality would be. If Jack was truly distracting, I'm sure it would help them.

[Trainwreck2100]

Its not his overconfidence. It's his unwillingness to put his ego a side for the team. Why couldn't he keep his mouth shut and prove his point on the court? He was getting consistent minutes. He was totally selfish and if his release hurts the Spurs in the playoffs, then it will be Jackson's fault for being a cancer when he was supposed to be a veteran leader.

That "unwillingness to put his ego aside" was the only reason he was on this team

[Spurs Brazil]

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[Brazil]

Well, there have been a report few days ago saying that Jack had a huge meltdown. So, while Jack certainly wasn't happy with his role for a long time, he make it an unsolvable issue just before the playoffs. If he had some kind of respect for the team and his teammates, he wouldn't have done that.

Thats cold as ice but can't argue a lot against that.

not wanting to bring Parker everywhere but if he had half of this behavior and spurs were obliged to waive him He would have been hung at the tree of the woe by all ST

[Brazil]

Anyway I have always been a jax fan, so good luck for him and thank you for all.

[therealtruth]

If he was playing well, the Spurs would have just shrugged it off as Jack being Jack. It became "unsolvable" because he has sucked recently.

Jax value isn't measured by regular season wins otherwise Bonner should be our MVP. You would expect Pop to know that.

[Budkin]

My lasting memory of SJAX. Never forget..

Lm6hepN6L84

Fuck we should have won that game.... aggggghghghggh

[therealtruth]

My lasting memory of SJAX. Never forget..

Lm6hepN6L84

We can look forward to getting swept by OKC now. I just don't think the Spurs have a chance now. He's a big part of the reason we only lost that series 4-2.

[superjames1992]

My lasting memory of SJAX. Never forget..

Lm6hepN6L84
And we lost that game, per par, tbh.

[DJR210]

Pop diss on a Big K.R.I.T produced track?

[jag]

We'll always have The Malice at the Palace, Jack. No one can ever take that anyway from us.


:toast

[Ditty]

And we lost that game, per par, tbh.

Yeah and we probably would have lost by 20 if we wasn't playing....

[superjames1992]

Yeah and we probably would have lost by 20 if we wasn't playing....
A loss is a loss.

[rmt]

I can see how things could build up to a boiling point. On SJax side, his contract situation, playing poorly all year, the death of his child, and lately his appearance on the 10 most overpaid NBA players. On Pop's side, the minor bangs and bruises to TP, Manu's hamstring, Diaw's surgery and SJax acting up - all right before the playoffs. What a shame - such a promising year with TD rolling back the hands of time.

SJax's toughness will be missed. No one else on the team had that.

[Ditty]

A loss is a loss.

yeah and your enjoying 4 extra days of summer without Jack

[SpurPadre]

The team will be better with this scrub off the team, tbh. People had irrational expectations that he would come through after sucking ass all season and hit 20,000 threes in the playoffs, but it wasn't happening. This is a good thing for the team. We need to rid our body of the malignant tumor before it kills us. No one said it wouldn't hurt.

malignant tumor? Yes, his name is Matt Bonner.

[HI-FI]

sad to see things go this way. I knew when one poster on here said Jax had a meltdown that it sounded true.

Jax is a personal fave, but I can't deny i"ve been utterly disappointed with his play this season. I kept hoping a Robert Horry-esque playoff would ensue, but we won't know.

Best of luck to Jax, sad to see him go but that's how things roll.

[Sean Cagney]

The team will be better with this scrub off the team, tbh. People had irrational expectations that he would come through after sucking ass all season and hit 20,000 threes in the playoffs, but it wasn't happening. This is a good thing for the team. We need to rid our body of the malignant tumor before it kills us. No one said it wouldn't hurt.

Spurs have no backup SF at all, they are not better.


Thanks for the memories Jax......
malignant tumor? Yes, his name is Matt Bonner.

THANK YOU.....

[TE]

There's gonna be a lack of toughness that will be evident at some point in a playoff game tbh


Oh well...

[jermaine]

Pop is nobody without Tim Duncan, his rotations have been shit and he'll pull a player out even if they've just hit 3 or 4 in a role while everyone is stagnant for no reason.
I kinda feel the same way. Pop wouldn't have those rings without Duncan. All that tryna turn Mason an Neal to a pg.shows you the real Pop. The lineup of Blair an Bonner also. The no playing of Baynes makes me wanna slap that fool.

[SpurPadre]

Spurs have no backup SF at all, they are not better.


Thanks for the memories Jax......

THANK YOU.....

The Matt Bonner tumor is so bad, it grows on kids' heads: http://l3.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/D.mD1NRCstewGPhwjOaJeQ--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7cT04NTt3PTYzMA--/http://media.zenfs.com/en/blogs/sptusnbaexperts/MB51612.jpg

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Sad news. At the start of the season I thought Jax's ferocity and crunch-time shot-making would really help us this year, but it has turned out not to be.

Later Jax, all the best - I'll always remember you for 2003.

PS Bruno, are the any salary cap implications to this? I mean, if he'd been on the playoff roster would that have changed anything in the off-season (cap holds and such)?

[KaiRMD1]

To Stak Jack, dude has the mental toughness to bring nasty all the time. I'm afraid the balls of the team is gone now sadly. Will miss you but am glad you got to rock Spurs colors again.

[KaiRMD1]

I kinda feel the same way. Pop wouldn't have those rings without Duncan. All that tryna turn Mason an Neal to a pg.shows you the real Pop. The lineup of Blair an Bonner also. The no playing of Baynes makes me wanna slap that fool.

I still recall when we were killing the Knicks, he took out a hot shooting Tiago Splitter and put in an extremely turnover heavy Manu Ginobili & Tony Parker we fuckin' lost the game. Smart move Pop. His best move of the playoffs will be keeping Bonner in after the other team goes on a 13-0 run

[SenorSpur]

When you look at all things considered, it's not the first time that he's forced his way off of an NBA team. I just thought Jack had too much respect for Pop and the Spurs organization to have ever allowed himself to become such a malcontent. I wonder if his poor play can be attributed to the fact that he was so unhappy or because he's actually in decline? Perhaps it could be both. Still, the timing on this whole thing sucks.

[manu the best]

It sucks to see captain jack leave this way.. Specially after what his teamates think about him.. Timmy called him the ultimate teammate at one point.. But it also serves as an example for the young guys in our team.. That nobody is above the team..

[hater]

I agree this decision is more jax was being a distraction than him "suking". Its jax. He was going to show up in the playoffs. But his mouth was too damn big and that was that. His mouth killed jax. Not his regular season game

[Bruno]

PS Bruno, are the any salary cap implications to this? I mean, if he'd been on the playoff roster would that have changed anything in the off-season (cap holds and such)?

There would have a cap hold to keep bird rights on him but this cap hold could have been easily removed by renouncing to his rights.

So, basically, it changes nothing regarding this summer and Spurs salary cap situation.

[exstatic]

Sad news. At the start of the season I thought Jax's ferocity and crunch-time shot-making would really help us this year, but it has turned out not to be.

Later Jax, all the best - I'll always remember you for 2003.

PS Bruno, are the any salary cap implications to this? I mean, if he'd been on the playoff roster would that have changed anything in the off-season (cap holds and such)?

I believe there is no cap hold now that he's been waived, but I'm not sure that's even a factor. It sounds now like they would have immediately renounced him this summer, so there would have been no cap hold anyway.

[TampaDude]

Happy Trails, Jack...best of luck wherever you land... :toast

[boutons_deux]

You shit in your own bed, Jack, but you still get paid. cool

[jermaine]

I loveJack man, but it really does send a message to the young core of the team. Regardless of where we are, how depleted we are, or what we're trying to accomplish. You can an will get in line or get out of it. More teams should be like that. These Divas in the NBA are spoiled an the FO should stand behind the coach at all cost. I hate the move myself, but it is what's best for the team.

[John B]

Well, there have been a report few days ago saying that Jack had a huge meltdown. So, while Jack certainly wasn't happy with his role for a long time, he make it an unsolvable issue just before the playoffs. If he had some kind of respect for the team and his teammates, he wouldn't have done that.
Can't blame Jack for what he went through with his wife this year. He could be giving Spurs a chance to pick-up a replacement before the playoffs however impossible that may seem to be. I trust the FO to have something in mind making this drastic move. But I would miss Jack's tough defense and enforcer role in the playoffs, especially against Durant and hopefully against LeBron. So long Capt Jack :toast

[boutons_deux]

"You can an will get in line or get out of it."

that sounds too authoritarian.

Pop has created an organization where 10s of players have come and gone, while "buying into the system" because they respected Pop and the other players who, by their example AND results (like getting rings), bought into the system.

While Pop has said, somewhat defensively, that not all Spurs are Boy Scouts, by and large, character and coachability are characteristics they include in their hiring.

[therealtruth]

"You can an will get in line or get out of it."

that sounds too authoritarian.

Pop has created an organization where 10s of players have come and gone, while "buying into the system" because they respected Pop and the other players who, by their example AND results (like getting rings), bought into the system.

While Pop has said, somewhat defensively, that not all Spurs are Boy Scouts, by and large, character and coachability are characteristics they include in their hiring.




Is Pop more interested in running the Spurs Boy Scouts or winning a championship? You sometimes have to tolerate players like Jax if you want to win a championship. I've never seen a group of Boy Scouts win a championship.

[Bruno]

Can't blame Jack for what he went through with his wife this year.

:rolleyes

Where am I blaming him for that ?

[silverblackfan]

Good luck in the future Jack and thanks for the memories.:toast

Hate to see him go, as he was one of the toughest players the Spurs had. I have to assume he was just rocking the boat too much to keep him around. It was a ballsy move to cut him now. We will have to see if the team can get back on track. If they flame out, this is one of the reasons. If they start hitting their stride and playing better ball, then this could be the reason. Tough to know, especially the way the Spurs keep all their information close to the vest.