What Price Success?

[Solid D]

The Final 4 of the 2005 NBA Playoffs are bold, color highlighted.


Team Payrolls 2004-05

1. New York Knicks $102,442,544
2. Dallas Mavericks $91,553,496
3. Portland Trailblazers $83,671,312
4. Philadelphia 76ers $71,951,888
5. Minnesota Timberwolves $70,060,920
6. Memphis Grizzlies $67,010,824
7. Orlando Magic $66,445,252
8. Indiana Pacers $65,792,068
9. Los Angeles Lakers $65,059,100
10. Boston Celtics $64,577,356
11. Sacramento Kings $61,807,688
12. Toronto Raptors $61,703,772
13. Houston Rockets $60,222,300
14. Miami Heat $58,949,072
15. Chicago Bulls $57,276,136
16. Milwaukee Bucks $57,137,128
17. New Orleans Hornets $56,572,880
18. Golden State Warriors $54,943,724
19. New Jersey Nets $54,729,028
20. Detroit Pistons $54,574,980
21. Seattle Sonics $53,821,300
22. Washington Wizards $49,547,056
23. Cleveland Cavaliers $49,175,272
24. San Antonio Spurs $47,149,172 NBA Champions
25. Los Angeles Clippers $45,170,768
26. Denver Nuggets $45,621,812
27. Phoenix Suns $44,256,720
28. Utah Jazz $43,160,808
29. Atlanta Hawks $40,684,848
30. Charlotte Bobcats $23,380,124

Source: Patricia's database
http://www.dfw.net/~patricia/misc/salaries05.txt

[Solid D]

Is this the last year during the Tim Duncan era that the Spurs rank in the bottom 7 in salaries? How about the bottom 15?

[exstatic]

Not for long. Parker's contract kicks in, Horry got a nice raise, and the MCE will likely be used on Scola. Add about $15M on top of last year.

[ducks]

suns will sky rocket tooo

[Dex]

Who said you can't get a good deal these days?

[caspian]

Would anyone like to provide an overview of how this whole financial situation is structured in the NBA? Each team can spend as much as it wants? What's the mid-level exception mean?...and all that jazz?

If you wouldn't mind starting from the basics...as if I'm an ingnoramus, that would be great.

[Solid D]

http://members.cox.net/lmcoon/salarycap.htm

This is changing with the new Collective Bargaining Agreement (CBA) but this is the most comprehensive site for info. It has Q & A. Just click on Edit and Find and search for MLE, etc.

Give a man a fish and he has food for one day.
Teach a man to fish and he has food for a lifetime.

[slayermin]

Give a man a fish and he has food for one day.
Teach a man to fish and he has food for a lifetime.

What if I'm allergic to fish?

[ZStomp]

Not for long. Parker's contract kicks in, Horry got a nice raise, and the MCE will likely be used on Scola. Add about $15M on top of last year.


How do you (we) know what Horry got?

[constantstate]

ny and orlando stick out like sore thumbs on that list.

[caspian]

http://members.cox.net/lmcoon/salarycap.htm

This is changing with the new Collective Bargaining Agreement (CBA) but this is the most comprehensive site for info. It has Q & A. Just click on Edit and Find and search for MLE, etc.

Give a man a fish and he has food for one day.
Teach a man to fish and he has food for a lifetime.

Thanks...the fishing's great.

[team-work]

Just out of curosity - can Spurs success formula help the Silver Stars?

[Marcus Bryant]

How do you (we) know what Horry got?

The max he could get, assuming the MLE is $5 mil, would be $16.5 mil over 3 years.

I believe he was reported to have signed for 3 seasons with the last season being partially guaranteed. So something less than $16.5 mil over 3 yrs.

[Solid D]

Thanks...the fishing's great.

:)


Just out of curosity - can Spurs success formula help the Silver Stars?

If they were to apply the formula, then maybe.

[Marcus Bryant]

Some of that is skewed by, well, luck. Had the CBA that was agreed to in 1999 not come along, the Spurs could've been stuck like the T'Wolves, paying roughly double the max to a player.

Having TP on a rookie contract has helped as well.

[Marcus Bryant]

Granted, the skill of the front office in evaluating talent allowed them to find a starting point guard with the 28th overall pick in 2001...

[CalsonicKansei]

Man we are really climbing on that list. But that is what New York gets by letting all their players tell them what to do and pay them more. Fuckin' Malik probably got a pay raise by now for doing nothing. Oh, and Shaq is like number 32 on that list.

[Marcus Bryant]

The Spurs will climb on that list if they are to remain a serious contender, at least for the near term.

[caspian]

The Final 4 of the 2005 NBA Playoffs are bold, color highlighted.

Team Payrolls 2004-05

1. New York Knicks $102,442,544
2. Dallas Mavericks $91,553,496
3. Portland Trailblazers $83,671,312
4. Philadelphia 76ers $71,951,888
5. Minnesota Timberwolves $70,060,920
6. Memphis Grizzlies $67,010,824
7. Orlando Magic $66,445,252
8. Indiana Pacers $65,792,068
9. Los Angeles Lakers $65,059,100
10. Boston Celtics $64,577,356
11. Sacramento Kings $61,807,688
12. Toronto Raptors $61,703,772
13. Houston Rockets $60,222,300
14. Miami Heat $58,949,072
15. Chicago Bulls $57,276,136
16. Milwaukee Bucks $57,137,128
17. New Orleans Hornets $56,572,880
18. Golden State Warriors $54,943,724
19. New Jersey Nets $54,729,028
20. Detroit Pistons $54,574,980
21. Seattle Sonics $53,821,300
22. Washington Wizards $49,547,056
23. Cleveland Cavaliers $49,175,272
24. San Antonio Spurs $47,149,172 NBA Champions
25. Los Angeles Clippers $45,170,768
26. Denver Nuggets $45,621,812
27. Phoenix Suns $44,256,720
28. Utah Jazz $43,160,808
29. Atlanta Hawks $40,684,848
30. Charlotte Bobcats $23,380,124

Source: Patricia's database
http://www.dfw.net/~patricia/misc/salaries05.txt

How do you account for the vast difference in payrolls if there is supposedly a mechanism that keeps all pockets on a level playing field? Or is the 'level playing field' a fixed percentage of whatever BRI (basketbal related income) that a particular team earns...such that teams with larger media markets get to have bigger payrolls?

[Solid D]

Some teams didn't seem to care about going over the cap and paying the luxury tax. The NY Knickerbockers went over the cap by $50M+ and the lux tax was equal to that overage, dollar-for-dollar, so NY paid an additional $50M+ in penalties. Their TV market allowed them to "afford" it perhaps, but what a waste of money! Where did it get them? Now all the NY press talks about is jettisoning beefy contracts like Stephon Marbury's deal.

The Spurs led by Peter Holt, were allergic to luxury taxes and their frugality allowed them to get the most for their money. Their shrewdness, coaching and good fortune with their draft picks over the years, allowed them to get the ultimate payoff.

[caspian]

Some teams didn't seem to care about going over the cap and paying the luxury tax. The NY Knickerbockers went over the cap by $50M+ and the lux tax was equal to that overage, dollar-for-dollar, so NY paid an additional $50M+ in penalties. Their TV market allowed them to "afford" it perhaps, but what a waste of money! Where did it get them? Now all the NY press talks about is jettisoning beefy contracts like Stephon Marbury's deal.

The Spurs led by Peter Holt, were allergic to luxury taxes and their frugality allowed them to get the most for their money. Their shrewdness, coaching and good fortune with their draft picks over the years, allowed them to get the ultimate payoff.

So...the fact is...every team can spend as much as they want?...

...what level playing field? What's the point?