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boutons_deux
04-14-2013, 10:02 AM
Guantanamo guards fire rubber bullets to quell detainee resistanceGuards at the Guantanamo Bay prison fired non-lethal shots to quell prisoner unrest Saturday as they relocated inmates into individual cells, US military officials said.

Officials at the US-run prison met with resistance from some inmates as they moved before dawn to relocate inmates from communal housing into individual cells.

“Some detainees resisted with improvised weapons, and in response, four less-than-lethal rounds were fired,” according to a statement from Robert Durand, a spokesman with Joint Task Force Guantanamo, which runs the prison.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/04/14/guantanamo-guards-fire-rubber-bullets-to-quell-detainee-resistance/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

boutons_deux
04-14-2013, 10:05 AM
Beatings, Attempted Suicides and Deliberate Starvation: The Dystopic Hell of Guantanamo Bay

Colonel John Bogdan’s arrival at Guantanamo Bay meant trouble for the prisoners who had been locked up there for over a decade, many of them without ever being charged with a crime. His punitive actions sparked the first mass hunger strike at Guantanamo since 2006. In turn, the strike is shining a light on the festering issue of indefinite detention without charge, and the Obama administration’s failure to close the prison that has become a symbol of the lawlessness of America’s “war on terror.”

Bogdan, who served in Iraq and took over operations at the prison camp in June 2012, embarked on a campaign of harassment directed at the prisoners, according to published accounts (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/01/alive-or-in-a-box-gitmo-hunger-strikers_n_2995927.html) by attorneys for Guantanamo prisoners.


He had members of the Joint Detention Group, the military unit that runs the prison, storm Camp 6, the name given for the prison area where most of the detainees live. (In response to the hunger strike, some detainees have reportedly been moved (http://articles.washingtonpost.com/2013-04-01/world/38185146_1_detainees-hunger-strike-camp-6) to Camp 5, an area of the camp for “non-compliant” detainees that has been criticized for small cells, bright lights and foul smells. Camp 6 is the most permissive area of the camps, where prisoners live communally.) Temperatures in the prison cells were lowered to 62 degrees.

“Bogdan brought a tough-guy approach to detention operations and has ruled the camps with an iron fist,” one attorney who works with Guantanamo prisoners said in a statement published by the Huffington Post. “Marked by displays of power for power’s sake, his approach has led to mayhem in the camps.” One Yemeni detainee recently stated (http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/starving_for_justice_at_guantanamo_20130313/) that “we are in danger. One of the soldiers fired on one of the brothers a month ago.”

On February 6, Bogdan ordered a search that led directly to the ongoing hunger strike at Guantanamo Bay that's making headlines around the world.

Military guards searched prison cells and confiscated personal letters, photos and mail prisoners had received from their lawyers. But the biggest indignity for the prisoners was a search of their Qu’rans, the Muslim holy book. The U.S. military says that they suspected contraband or weapons might be hidden in the Qu’rans, a claim that has not been substantiated (http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/04/05/v-fullstory/3325688/qurans-at-crux-of-guantanamo-hunger.html) and that lawyers for Guantanamo detainees strongly deny. The government says its interpreters--many of whom are Muslim and don’t make up the prison guard force--carried out the Qu’ran searches, but the prisoners don't care; they say the searches constitute religious desecration.

The Qu’ran searches were the last straw for the 166 detainees, and most of them have now joined the hunger strike, according to their attorneys. The U.S. military admits that there are 42 participants under what they define as a hunger strike. Their definition states that a prisoner is hunger-striking when he deliberately misses nine consecutive meals. The military has taken to force-feeding the prisoners in response to their deliberate act of starvation.

The protest, which seeks to end the Qu’ran searches, started in February and has also morphed beyond just focusing on the perceived desecration of their holy books. Some detainees have now taken to protesting against their indefinite detention. Lawyers for Guantanamo prisoners state that Bogdan’s punitive policies hearken back to the dark days of Gitmo, when those at the camp were routinely tortured.

“The hunger strike has escalated to a broader crisis that is, at this point, all but irreversible,” said Wells Dixon, a senior attorney at the Center for Constitutional Rights who represents five detainees. “The men are not starving themselves so they can become martyrs...They’re doing this because they’re desperate. They’re desperate to be free from Guantanamo. They don’t see any alternative to leaving in a coffin. That’s the bottom line.”

http://www.alternet.org/civil-liberties/beatings-attempted-suicides-and-deliberate-starvation-dystopic-hell-guantanamo-bay

ElNono
04-14-2013, 12:20 PM
Guantanamo hearings delayed as legal files vanish

http://tvnz.co.nz/world-news/guantanamo-hearings-delayed-legal-files-vanish-5403349

Latarian Milton
04-14-2013, 09:07 PM
fuck humanity tbh. american soldiers are too kind to those evil fucks, should expel them all shitheads in to the bay

boutons_deux
04-14-2013, 09:42 PM
they haven't been charged and tried, so they are innocent while being abused, degraded, bullied, tortured.

Soldiers down there are fucking sadistic bullies, would make excellent do-as-told Nazis, and the Col is, too.

BobaFett1
04-14-2013, 09:47 PM
they haven't been charged and tried, so they are innocent while being abused, degraded, bullied, tortured.

Soldiers down there are fucking sadistic bullies, would make excellent do-as-told Nazis, and the Col is, too.

Those evil fucks are terrorist dumbass.

boutons_deux
04-14-2013, 10:41 PM
Those evil fucks are terrorist dumbass.

they haven't been charged and tried, so they are innocent while being abused, degraded, bullied, tortured.

Soldiers down there are fucking sadistic bullies, would make excellent do-as-told Nazis, and the Col is, too.

BobaFett1
04-15-2013, 09:22 AM
they haven't been charged and tried, so they are innocent while being abused, degraded, bullied, tortured.

Soldiers down there are fucking sadistic bullies, would make excellent do-as-told Nazis, and the Col is, too.




You are so anti american.

Drachen
04-15-2013, 11:33 AM
You are so anti american.

LOL, for once I agree with B_D (which means he is going to misinterpret this post and lash out at me for being an ignorant red state bubba (buzz word1, buzzword2, buzzword3....). Are you saying that it is the pinnacle of American-ness to hold prisoners for 11+ years without trial?

Crazy

BobaFett1
04-15-2013, 01:07 PM
LOL, for once I agree with B_D (which means he is going to misinterpret this post and lash out at me for being an ignorant red state bubba (buzz word1, buzzword2, buzzword3....). Are you saying that it is the pinnacle of American-ness to hold prisoners for 11+ years without trial?

Crazy

These combatants are not American citizens. No civilian trial for them.

Drachen
04-15-2013, 01:18 PM
These combatants are not American citizens. No civilian trial for them.

They haven't even been charged. What is their crime? You mean to tell me that our country can't figure out what they did in this many years? How do you know they are combatants? They already released a lot of guys. Are you content with letting this random collection of people just stay in limbo?

coyotes_geek
04-15-2013, 01:40 PM
These combatants are not American citizens. No civilian trial for them.

Ok. So now what? Just keep 'em locked up forever?

boutons_deux
04-16-2013, 12:56 AM
“Today, even George Orwell would have been pressed to conceive the plight of the 86: cleared for release, but denied freedom, using a hunger strike as their last weapon, only to be kept alive by the very people who will not let them go.” —Rupert Cornwell, The Independent



Last month, on March 15, I was sick in the prison hospital and refused to be fed. A team from the E.R.F. (Extreme Reaction Force), a squad of eight military police officers in riot gear, burst in. They tied my hands and feet to the bed. They forcibly inserted an IV into my hand. I spent 26 hours in this state, tied to the bed. During this time I was not permitted to go to the toilet. They inserted a catheter, which was painful, degrading and unnecessary. I was not even permitted to pray.

I will never forget the first time they passed the feeding tube up my nose. I can’t describe how painful it is to be force-fed this way. As it was thrust in, it made me feel like throwing up. I wanted to vomit, but I couldn’t. There was agony in my chest, throat and stomach. I had never experienced such pain before.

I would not wish this cruel punishment upon anyone.

I am still being force-fed. Two times a day they tie me to a chair in my cell. My arms, legs and head are strapped down. I never know when they will come. Sometimes they come during the night, as late as 11 p.m., when I’m sleeping. [emphasis added]

Army Lt. Col. Todd Breasseale, who is apparently the Pentagon spokesman for “detention and legal issues,” according to Rosenberg, said, “Allowing a detainee to harm himself is not only counter to our responsibilities under the laws of war, but is anathema to our values as Americans,” and, “Allowing a peacefully protesting detainee to harm himself by choosing to sit by while he starves himself to the point of endangering his life is not only a violation of the very code followed by civilized peoples everywhere, but it is the worst kind of victor’s justice: repugnant and wholly unacceptable.” So, instead, the prison authorities engage in “repugnant and wholly unacceptable” conduct to break the prisoner’s will to engage in hunger strike in the prison.


http://dissenter.firedoglake.com/2013/04/15/the-cruelty-of-obamas-gulag-at-guantanamo-bay/

Lt Col Tood, you one fucking asshole, typical Army careerist.

BobaFett1
04-16-2013, 02:15 AM
Ok. So now what? Just keep 'em locked up forever?

Give them a millitary trial.

boutons_deux
04-16-2013, 07:14 AM
Give them a millitary trial.

they'd lose in a secret military trial (aka Kangaroo court for "enemy combattants"), but probably not in a open civilian criminal trial. I bet all the lawyers know they have weak cases, so that's why there's been no trial after 10 years. USA illegally invades and occupies a foreign country, and natives fight back, how are they "enemy combattants"? IT'S THERE COUNTRY.

That's like MX invading TX to fight drug war, TX bubbas dreaming of the Alamo Texians fight back, get captured and held for 10 years in MX as "enemy comabattants"

boutons_deux
04-16-2013, 08:24 AM
National Security Brief: Bipartisan Report Concludes It’s ‘Indisputable’ That The U.S. Tortured After 9/11 (http://thinkprogress.org/security/2013/04/16/1870981/national-security-brief-indisputable-torture-911/)
http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/rumsfeld-bush-cheney1.jpg

The study, conducted by the 11-member Constitution Project after 2 years of research and interviews, concludes that “it is indisputable that the United States engaged in the practice of torture” and that the nation’s highest officials bore ultimate responsibility for it, according to the New York TImes (http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/16/world/us-practiced-torture-after-9-11-nonpartisan-review-concludes.html?pagewanted=2&hp&pagewanted=print).

While the report notes that Americans have engaged in brutality in every war it has fought, never before had there been “the kind of considered and detailed discussions that occurred after 9/11 directly involving a president and his top advisers on the wisdom, propriety and legality of inflicting pain and torment on some detainees in our custody.”

Former Bush administration officials, like former vice president Dick Cheney, continue to argue that the United States’ interrogation practices after 9/11 were not torture and that techniques, like waterboarding, gleaned valuable information, saved lives and was the right thing to do. However, the report seeks to close the debate on whether the U.S. tortured terror-suspects in the aftermath 9/11 and whether the tactics were useful. “As long as the debate continues, so too does the possibility that the United States could again engage in torture,” the report says, adding that the bipartisan group found “no firm or persuasive evidence” they worked.

While “a person subjected to torture might well divulge useful information,” much of the information obtained by force was not reliable, the report says.

http://thinkprogress.org/security/2013/04/16/1870981/national-security-brief-indisputable-torture-911/

America The Beautiful, where the Rule Of Law (not Repug men) reigns supreme, and the Home Of Fair Play and Human Rights. :lol

BobaFett1
04-16-2013, 08:46 AM
they'd lose in a secret military trial (aka Kangaroo court for "enemy combattants"), but probably not in a open civilian criminal trial. I bet all the lawyers know they have weak cases, so that's why there's been no trial after 10 years. USA illegally invades and occupies a foreign country, and natives fight back, how are they "enemy combattants"? IT'S THERE COUNTRY.

That's like MX invading TX to fight drug war, TX bubbas dreaming of the Alamo Texians fight back, get captured and held for 10 years in MX as "enemy comabattants"3



Why lets just realease them and let them go even if they go back on a battlefield and kill Americans. I wonder what side you really are on my liberal.

boutons_deux
04-16-2013, 08:51 AM
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Why lets just realease them and let them go even if they go back on a battlefield and kill Americans. I wonder what side you really are on my liberal.

you have no proof that they will

and they would be, in any case, a tiny number compared to 1000s of new terrorists that US has recruited with Gitmo, indiscriminate drone bombing planet wide, invading, occupying Iraq and Afghanistan, supporting Israel's genocide blindly, etc.

And how many $100Ms do you want to spend on Gitmo to save a few hypothetical lives?

BobaFett1
04-16-2013, 09:16 AM
you have no proof that they will

and they would be, in any case, a tiny number compared to 1000s of new terrorists that US has recruited with Gitmo, indiscriminate drone bombing planet wide, invading, occupying Iraq and Afghanistan, supporting Israel's genocide blindly, etc.

And how many $100Ms do you want to spend on Gitmo to save a few hypothetical lives?


It is worth it. I rather spend it on security than giving folks free handouts who are too lazy to work. Wow Israel has done doing wrong but you continue to be on wrong side. You need to move to a socialist country.

DUNCANownsKOBE
04-16-2013, 09:20 AM
lol another thread where BobaFett gets destroyed

The Reckoning
04-16-2013, 09:23 AM
lol bush. every time i see an attempt to make him look evil in a photo i just laugh my ass off. who can take that guy seriously?

BobaFett1
04-16-2013, 09:24 AM
lol another thread where BobaFett gets destroyed

No not destroyed............far from it because you liberals are lost souls. I pray for you guys.

DUNCANownsKOBE
04-16-2013, 09:24 AM
No not destroyed............far from it because you liberals are lost souls. I pray for you guys.

lol praying

lol bible thumping jeebotard

BobaFett1
04-16-2013, 09:24 AM
lol bush. every time i see an attempt to make him look evil in a photo i just laugh my ass off. who can take that guy seriously?

The left still blames him. They are in love to keep hating.

BobaFett1
04-16-2013, 09:25 AM
lol praying

lol bible thumping jeebotard

Bible thumping? lol...............I do not attend chruch moron. Nice dumbass statement. You not flexing.

DUNCANownsKOBE
04-16-2013, 09:29 AM
Bible thumping? lol...............I do not attend chruch moron. Nice dumbass statement. You not flexing.

:lol most Republicans don't actually attend Church, they just pretend to be good Christians. You're no different in that department.

BobaFett1
04-16-2013, 09:34 AM
:lol most Republicans don't actually attend Church, they just pretend to be good Christians. You're no different in that department.

who said I was a Christian? You labeling like a typical liberal.

DUNCANownsKOBE
04-16-2013, 09:36 AM
who said I was a Christian? You labeling like a typical liberal.

So you're not a Christian? Don't even try to pretend you're an atheist :lol

BobaFett1
04-16-2013, 09:44 AM
So you're not a Christian? Don't even try to pretend you're an atheist :lol

Man I am not pretending to be anything.

BobaFett1
04-16-2013, 09:44 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7OyKAFu50M

DUNCANownsKOBE
04-16-2013, 09:45 AM
:lol o look, he dodges the question and can't say what his religious affiliations are, even though phrases like "lost soul" and "I pray for you" make it obvious

BobaFett1
04-16-2013, 09:47 AM
:lol o look, he dodges the question and can't say what his religious affiliations are, even though phrases like "lost soul" and "I pray for you" make it obvious

Maybe I am a hindu maybe I am a Mormon. You cannot handle the truth assclown.:lol

DUNCANownsKOBE
04-16-2013, 09:53 AM
Maybe I am a hindu maybe I am a Mormon. You cannot handle the truth assclown.:lol

It's apparent you can't handle the truth, since you're the one who can't answer the question.

BobaFett1
04-16-2013, 09:55 AM
It's apparent you can't handle the truth, since you're the one who can't answer the question.


:sleep u TALKING

DUNCANownsKOBE
04-16-2013, 09:55 AM
:sleep u TALKING

What is your religious affiliation? It's a simple question.

Drachen
04-16-2013, 09:58 AM
What is your religious affiliation? It's a simple question.

I am pretty sure it is christian because (s)he separated Mormon from christian. The rest of Christians are generally the only ones who do that.

BobaFett1
04-16-2013, 10:32 AM
I am pretty sure it is christian because (s)he separated Mormon from christian. The rest of Christians are generally the only ones who do that.

I believe there is a higher power but I do not believe in all these religous groups because it is political bs

Clipper Nation
04-16-2013, 10:38 AM
I believe there is a higher power but I do not believe in all these religous groups because it is political bs
Let me get this straight: you don't follow religion because you think it's a bunch of political BS, but you believe every word of the political BS that Faux News puts out there? :lol

Spur|n|Austin
04-16-2013, 11:29 AM
I believe there is a higher power but I do not believe in all these religous groups because it is political bs

60% of the time it works all the time?

DisAsTerBot
04-16-2013, 11:35 AM
Let me get this straight: you don't follow religion because you think it's a bunch of political BS, but you believe every word of the political BS that Faux News puts out there? :lol

:rollin

Th'Pusher
04-16-2013, 11:06 PM
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2013/04/16/world/16torture-report.html?_r=0